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  • I Miss My X - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

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    My idea drought continues so I thought I'd do what I do best: complain to other people (while also being lazy, definitely not multiquoting you all).

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    linkblade91 - I agree with demon that Plague Doctor is cool but that Toxins might not be fresh in everyone's memory. At first sight Dual Wielding seemed too niche but then I remembered that Kingsbane is a card… The balance seems fair in both.

    MenacingBagel - Mr. Chu seems fair balance-wise but is a bit too directly inspired by Dalaran Heist for my taste. Could do well regardless. Otto is just too weird.

    Demonxz95 - I definitely like Felfire Fury. It would also be nice change from all the extras and excesses that we'll undoubtedly see. The only thing that could be seen as a negative is the rather common "3-mana deal 2 to all"-nature of the card, but if it's the sweet spot (as it seems to be) then what can you do (wouldn't change it). Enchantress feels too weird to me.

    grumpymonk - No strong feelings about either so they should be fine balance-wise. Health with capital H if you decide to go with that one.

    Pokeniner - I think the wording is ambiguous. Does the excess damage become AoE-like or is it deal to other minions one by one until it "runs out"? If the former, it's really OP. I would've gone with "to an adjacent minion" or similar. 3-mana seems fine though.

    CursedParrot - For Forced Summoning, I'm not sure how I feel about this card. I guess I fail to see the reason to run this card. Disciple of Krag'wa has balance issues in my opinion, it seems like a card that's more often than not either underwhelming or borderline broken. Kirin Tor Arcanist is interesting, and could have a better statline while still not being OP. My only worry is if the effect is too niche.

    DestroyerR - Way too memey for me.

    Valor1204 - It's a good idea for sure, but I think it's too risky to see any play in case you hit your opponent's 1/1 or similar. Therefore I'd like the bouncing effect more, but does it just become too similar to Rolling Fireball then?

    BloodMefist - You're on a mission then? First of all, Shadow Seer is not valid since "next" was a banned word. Regardless, Doomguard is my clear favourite. I think it could use +1 Health but it's very well balanced already. If you want to nail the flavor as well, the demon in question is a terrorguard and not doomguard.

    anchorm4n - I feel like flexible is not the word Blizzard would use for the effect (if I even understand it correctly). Therefore it feels too much like it's made for this competition to me.

    TheHoax91 - Aldor seems very realistic. I agree it might be quite simple though. Felo'melorn feels like a broken combo waiting to happen, not sold on it.

    MrRhapsody - I would have to go with the first one as the latter seems more like a ninja than a demon. But I can see your point.

    KANSAS - Up to three Coins for Rogue sounds like bad things are about to happen. I'd either make it one coin altogether if it deals excess damage or at least make it only able to target enemy minions, otherwise the abundance of Lackeys seems like a balance issue to me. But I do tend to judge combo-able cards by the worst case scenario, so you might want to wait for more feedback.

    meisterz39 - Seems cool, could even be cheaper in my opinion. I can already hear Demonxz95's soul screaming because of the usage of Classic watermark in a Legendary spell. If you want to go full fancy, I'd decrease the font size by 1 or 2, the text box seems quite crowded.

  • I Miss My X - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

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    MrRhapsody:
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    No matter what Version you choose, you should keep the name "Abusive Mistress". I think I prefer the family friendly version.

    TheHoax91:
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    Aldor Artificer Looks solid, but not very exciting. Felo'melorn Looks creative, but hard to make use of in game. I wouldn't be very happy if I pulled this from a pack tbh.

    BloodMefist:
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    Doomguard Devastator is an interesting idea, I like that approach. Shadow Seer doesn't work because "next" is banned from the competition. I must say I like Corpse Explosion too but your worries about the flavor are well reasoned.

    Valor1204:
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    It's too complicated for my taste and I don't see an easy way to alter it without completely working it over. Sorry.

    DestroyerR:
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    I've laughed, but I guess you won't win the competetion with this.

    CursedParrot:
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    I like Disciple of Krag'wa the most. It's versatile and puts the Overkill effect to a creative use. Nice one!

    Pokeniner:
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    I like the idea, but at 1 Health it wouldn't even have a Chance to survive if your Opponent had a board. The text Needs some work imo, since it's not clear enough where the excess Damage goes ("randomly split among all other enemy minions"?). Finally, what would you think about giving it Magnetic? The balance would be a Little tricky, but it would be fine at 1 Health and be much more appealing in my eyes.

    grumpymonk:
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    Keeper Remulos is my favorite card this week. I had a similar idea a few days ago and you designed just perfectly. 5 stars!

    Demonxz95:
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    Felfire Fury looks a bit forced, it doesn't really Need the "except" in my eyes. I like Soul Enchantress, it's a cool idea.

    MenacingBagel:
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    I didn't get what Otto would do in game even after I had read your explanation, so you should probably go with Mr. Chu. He Looks annoying, but fair.

    linkblade91:
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    I prefer the Plague Doctor. It is a nice throwback to Xaril, fits well into Deathrattle Rogue and looks weel balanced. The flavor is there, nice card!

    KANSAS:
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    It's a cool idea but I don't understand why the Goblin would get more money if he took out more teeth than he was supposed to so the flavor is a little bit off imo.

  • I Miss My X - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

    Here's one I put together a while ago for a different contest, but it fits here and I've always really liked it as a card.

  • I Miss My X - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

    Well this is an, odd theme. The restriction didn't give me too much inspiration so I decided to take this opportunity to use some art I had on my computer that I haven't been able to use anywhere else.

     

    "Let me just get that tooth out. Don't worry, I'll be gentle. *WHACK*! Oh my, sorry about that."

    What do you think? Is it balanced? Is everything worded and formatted correctly? Is the flavor good?

    I'll get some feedback out a bit later when a few more people have posted.

  • I Miss My X - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

    An explanation for Otto's effect.

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    Shadowhoof Slayer Card Image +Otto= Although now that I think about it maybe the name should be reversed too.
     

    Some Feedback:

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    MrRhapsody: Looks pretty good balance-wise IMO just a simple removal that hits itself if you have any overkill, as for the art I'd say use the first one for a year or two then swap it to the second. (I think they're both fine looking)

    Thehoax91: I think Aldor artifactor is a bit too cheap for generating two cards of your choice maybe just one or two mana more? And personally I don't really like the weapon since mage never had anything like it but it would be neat to see in-game.

    anchorm4n: This means that you can swap their placements around right? I get why you used it but the wording seems off.

    DestroyerR I feel like this is too strong in a vacuum but I'm not sure how it would work in-game. Rouge could pull it off really easily by shadow stepping some echoing ooze but outside of them, I'm not sure how well it would fair.

    BloodMefist: I really like shadow seer, since it's generally simple and a clean card fitting with priest's identity/spoiler]

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    Their reprinting Sad Robot! Now I don't have to pay an extra $3.00 for every one of my non-green commander decks.

  • Here's some art, make a card! [Legacy Game]

    His effect is supposed to be a reference to Reincarnate, the ability the Tauren Chieftain had in Warcraft 3.

    Next: Let's keep it up with artwork from other games.

  • Fixing Kinkou Elusives - Patch 1.2

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    But my point really has a lot less to do with whether or not he's mad about the results, and more about how talks about it.

    Having watched both Twitch Rivals and both Progress Day podcasts that feature Swim, I feel like I have some insight that might temper some of these points.  I'm going to preface this by saying that I'm not actually a fan of Swim.  Don't watch his stream or videos, and the times I have come across his content, didn't really care for it.

    His description of his loss to Kripp's Burn Aggro deck was "because he brought this - one of his decks, it was Noxus/P&Z and he was running a lot of low cost cards and all of his cards reduced my Nexus health…then I just got zero health and lost." He talks about it like a crazy deck straight out of left field.

    I'm 99.9% sure this was a joke.  His delivery was a little off, but Panda and Mogwai both reacted to it properly as a joke, and him saying that seriously doesn't line up with how he was talking about burn earlier in the same podcast.

    • He could have said that the Burn Aggro archetype was degenerate for the game and bad for competitive play (which is true)
    • He could have talked about how the timer rules meant that popular control lineups were left worse off (which is also true, and contributed to his poor Swiss record)

    Both of these are great points.  It's been a while since I watched the podcast, but I suspect these points may have been brought up when talking about the balance changes instead though?

    • Instead he talks about it like something unfair that no one could have seen coming, and continuously tries to downplay the impact that Kripp had on his losses because that would seemingly mean that he's worse than Kripp.

    While bashing another player the way he did here is in poor taste, unfortunately, there's a lot of truth to what was being said.  Kripp was attending the tournament for promotional purposes (as were a number of the participants really), and not as a serious player of the game.  I can tell you as someone who watched several of his games, he had only a passing knowledge of how the game works.  To cite an example, in a tournament, he played into a Fiora+Judgement combo, and even when it was revealed, he had no idea that he had just lost the game until it actually happened.  Honestly, Kripp's record was one of the best arguments to date of why Burn needed nerfing.

    • His broader description of his opponents is unduly disrespectful. "It's more competitive when everyone is on the level and you have some kind of anticipation of what people will bring and then if they bring something surprising it's because they're outgaming you instead of just bringing random stuff"
      • What he's describing here - opponents bringing decks he couldn't anticipate - is basically the nature of competitive CCG innovation. There are lots of examples across Digital CCGs of decks which aren't great on ladder but are great in tournaments because of how they play against specific, popular decks. This is extremely common.
      • In this moment, he's basically saying "I'm the expert, so if my opponent has brought something I couldn't anticipate, it's because they have no idea what they're doing and just got lucky"
        • While all of these opponents he's talking about are not major LoR streamers, they're all major CCG streamers with years of expertise in CCGs. LoR is not so different among CCGs that their experiences are not applicable or relevant.
        • When he says "on the level" he basically means "using my tier list on Mobalytics and treating it as undeniably correct"

    I only want to say that this is all spot on.  I didn't interpret it as much about his own narcissism (specifically being about his own tier lists), but I don't think that interpretation is at all unreasonable based on how he was speaking.

     

  • Party Planning 101 - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

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    HEY! I WON!

    Congratulations!

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    Sacrifice Selfless Rescue Dog: Another creature you control gains indestructible until end of turn.

    That's not how rescue dogs work, Magic! :D

  • Hearthstone Grandmasters 2020 Season 1 - Final Week Results, Decklists, and More!

    At very least they tried something of the sorts to change it up a little so we actually get to see the lower tier classes. That 10 classes ban 6 was actually interesting to some degree as it showcased just exactly why the poorer classes aren't actually seeing any play in tournaments.

    Viper actually brought the craziest list to playoffs, and unsurprisingly couldn't make it. More of less why we don't see much of anything out of the ordinary

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    I love the Planeswalker land frames so much! That's great for paper, I'm curious what flair, if any, they'll have on Arena.

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    We absolutely need more tournament-viable classes.

    Narrowed spectrum of average viability is already crippling in ladder, and it's even worse as a spectator of a Tournament (where champions can't afford a hardmode with offmeta or memes).

  • I Miss My X - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

    Not really feeling this week's  theme, so i'll just make this one card. My question is: Should i use the original version or the family friendly one? Any other  suggestion is welcome too.

    Feedback coming soon.

    " You certainly won't miss that X".

     

  • Fixing Kinkou Elusives - Patch 1.2

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    I have not seen the Twitch Rivals tournament so what I'm about to say could be wrong, but I don't think you should be too hard on Swim because of what he said on the podcast. If you're participating in a tournament where people expect you to be the expert who stomps all the inexperienced people, and the opposite happens followed by twitch chat endlessly making fun of you for it, it makes sense that you're going to be frustrated by it. In addition his loss(es?) was(/were) apparently to Noxus/P&Z burn aggro, on which I think we can all agree that it is not the type of deck you want to see being played in tournaments because it is incredibly easy to pilot and losing against it feels like losing a coinflip.

    I'm not saying everything Swim is saying is completely correct or justified, but I don't think you should abandon all your respect for him just because of what he said here. Everyone says something dumb every once in a while, especially when they're frustrated about something.

    For context on the tournament, he lost his first match to Kripp (lost to Burn Aggro, won a game, then lost a game because of the timer), then he tied to MegaMogwai in the second round (again due to the timer). He won his third match and made it into the winners bracket by the skin of his teeth, and then went on to take second place against DogDog.

    I'm certainly sympathetic to your point about expectations - going into the tournament, Swim was considered a favorite to win, so there's a lot of pressure on him to do that. But it's not like he lost...he got second place. Sometimes your first seed in a tournament doesn't win, and that's not a big deal from a reputation standpoint. Had he come in last or been dropped down into the losers bracket like MegaMogwai, I could more easily understand the resentment over the results because that kind of failure directly flies in the face of his supposed expertise.

    But my point really has a lot less to do with whether or not he's mad about the results, and more about how talks about it.

    • His description of his loss to Kripp's Burn Aggro deck was "because he brought this - one of his decks, it was Noxus/P&Z and he was running a lot of low cost cards and all of his cards reduced my Nexus health...then I just got zero health and lost." He talks about it like a crazy deck straight out of left field. 
      • He could have said that the Burn Aggro archetype was degenerate for the game and bad for competitive play (which is true)
      • He could have talked about how the timer rules meant that popular control lineups were left worse off (which is also true, and contributed to his poor Swiss record)
      • Instead he talks about it like something unfair that no one could have seen coming, and continuously tries to downplay the impact that Kripp had on his losses because that would seemingly mean that he's worse than Kripp.
    • His broader description of his opponents is unduly disrespectful. "It's more competitive when everyone is on the level and you have some kind of anticipation of what people will bring and then if they bring something surprising it's because they're outgaming you instead of just bringing random stuff"
      • What he's describing here - opponents bringing decks he couldn't anticipate - is basically the nature of competitive CCG innovation. There are lots of examples across Digital CCGs of decks which aren't great on ladder but are great in tournaments because of how they play against specific, popular decks. This is extremely common.
      • In this moment, he's basically saying "I'm the expert, so if my opponent has brought something I couldn't anticipate, it's because they have no idea what they're doing and just got lucky"
        • While all of these opponents he's talking about are not major LoR streamers, they're all major CCG streamers with years of expertise in CCGs. LoR is not so different among CCGs that their experiences are not applicable or relevant.
        • When he says "on the level" he basically means "using my tier list on Mobalytics and treating it as undeniably correct"

    In my mind, all of this speaks to an "expert" status that has been conferred onto Swim incorrectly. He's certainly one of the biggest LoR streamers, but given how small the LoR scene is right now, he's a big fish in a small pond. 

    He's a big part of how the weekly "meta tier list" is determined on Mobalytics, but I think he's taken that and convinced himself that his word is gospel on the strategy of the game. Going back to OldManSanns point - the Kinkou Elusive deck dropped off the tier list in a way that seemed pretty arbitrary and not truly reflective of its power level. And now it's back, simply because a nerf hit the Burn Aggro deck. It's not as though the Kinkou Elusive deck was ever bad, it just dropped of the tier list because Swim deemed it so. All of this points to an utter lack of self-awareness that leaves me with very little respect for him.

  • I Miss My X - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

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    Quote From forgloryus

    So what is really only the letter X or was it suppose to be the letters Ex as in excess or extra? Because the former doesn't seem to be rough to get into a card.

    You just need to have a letter X in the card text, but you cannot us the word NEXT. Thats it.

    Yes, it is not hard to get the X in there, but it might be hard not to come up with something boring/obvious :)

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    wow i won something, thank you for the amazin giveaway!

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    Grats!

    I hope I have better Luck next Time!

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    Yeah, I thought it was very funny that half the people that were finalists received premium and really didn't need it. Staff rigged confirmed! 

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    Oh no =(

    Glad you got it  fixed up though!

  • I Miss My X - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

    So what is really only the letter X or was it suppose to be the letters Ex as in excess or extra? Because the former doesn't seem to be rough to get into a card.

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  • I Miss My X - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

    Very interesting theme! Here are my first ideas:

    Aldor Artificer - Very simple card generation tool. Probably too simple to make it far in a competition...

    Felo'melorn - There are a few things going on here. This costs the same as Kael'thas Sunstrider, one of its previous owners. It deals 6 damage just like Fireball, which is the standard fire spell in World of Warcraft. If you kill a 1-Health minion with this you basically gain Malygos' effect for one turn. Besides Blingtron 3000 there is no way to cheat this out as a Mage, but you can set this up a turn (or more) before if your opponent has no weapon removal.

     

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    linkblade91 - Plague Doctor has really nice flavor and seems prefectly balanced. The only way to improve it would probably be to put it into the same expansion as Xaril… Dual Wielding is weird, because yes you're holding two weapons in your hand, but no you're not actually dual wielding them. Balance-wise it should be fine… exceptc an you imagine drawing a buffed Kingsbane with this?

    MenacingBagel - Mr. Chu seems fine balance wise…but yeah it's just a generic Bomb Warrior card. Otto the Flipper makes absolutely no sense to me. Do you mind posting an existing card or Mr. Chu being affected by this?

    Demonxz95 - Felfire Fury: 'Choose a minion. Deal 2 damage to all others/all other minions.' Soul Enchantress: 'Your cards that give Attack or Health also give +1/+1.' Soul Enchantress has the additional problem that there are cards that give buffs to your hero and it's unclear how it interacts with those.

    grumpymonk - Bestow Faith wording is weird. 'If it's a minion…' makes no sense because there is no 'it' you could possibly refer to. Also 'Health' is capitalized. My suggestion would be to make it always target a minion: 'Restore 12 Health to a minion, and any excess healing to your hero.' If you want to only heal your hero you can still target any minion that is at full Health. I had the same exact idea as Keeper Remulos and found that it could be a lot cheaper. My card was 3 mana 1/4 which makes 3x1x4=12; In the first sentence you can say 'Mana' without 'Crystals'. That way the line breaks exactly where the new sentence begins.

    Pokeniner - Does it deal excess damage to all other enemy minions or randomly split between them or to one random enemy minion? Depending on the answer this is balanced or not… Also the wording probably should make that clear.

    CursedParrot - Forced Summoning feels super weird, simply because it refers to a non-existent spell by name. Disciple of Krag'wa probably should be a little bit weaker to punish it for its flexibility. Kirin Tor Arcanist is my favorite out of the three but could be bit cheaper, since you have to spend extra mana on the spell in order to get the effect.

    DestroyerR - Exceptionally unexpected, yet inexecutable.

    Valor1204 - The effect is nice, but really has nothing to do with Imps OR Implosions. Balance-wise this might be too expensive at 4 Mana. Unless I'm misreading this it continually swaps sides whenever it kills a minion until 8 damage is done? 2-3 Mana should be fine. Also that art makes my eyes bleed…

    BloodMefist - My favorite out of the three is Corpse Explosion. I think it is too specific though. If you remove the Deathrattle requirement the card text could be a LOT shorter as well. 'Deal 2 damage to all minions. If any die add a 'Corspe Explosion' to your hand.' To make up for the easier to fulfill condtiotn you could increase Mana Cost to 4. However I think your version is balanced the way it is and very flavorful! Btw Shadow Seer would be disqualified for using the word 'next'.

  • Spacial Awareness - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

    Thanks guys, pretty cool cards all around