Shadow Madness is buffed, but Smite and Shield... not exactly. Smite only hits minions now, making it a great removal card, but it was historically only really sent at the opponent's face. Shield meanwhile no longer draws a card, which is a big deal.
I'm sure we'll get the basic cards for free, probably by leveling up the class as usual. Don't count on the rest of them though.
I half expect the number of neutrals in each expansion to be reduced to accommodate the new class. You could easily cut out 10 of them each set and no one would be upset.
Probably too much to expect the dhunter's cards being free, but I'm keeping my hopes alive until they confirm it. It bears mention that if all these cards are obtained via the classic card pack, its going to piss many many players. Probably from the new expansion, but again, we'll wait and see.
pretty much the absolute strongest card in their entire arsenal, especially considering all the synergy. Can't wait to get completely blown out by the crazy Naga and then see them drawa 3 cards off of it.
@DoubleSummon: I think reworking the Priest class is a good thing. Don`t get me wrong. What I don`t like is to push the "passive control part" of priest even further. When Reno Priest was T1 it most of the time felt for me, that the Priest just "played for his own" and I had nearly no ways to interact with him, because 90% of what he did was remove my minions without playing something to interact with. I always hated this "full passive control style".
And I am not a totally control hater! I got Legend with Reno-Mage last month in Wild. I only hate the passive removal heavy control decks and this playstyle seems to get pushed at most by the update. I whould have loved a stronger focus on a more midrangy Priest identity like in Dragon Priest. To focus Priest more on a "dragon core identity" whould be much more healthier imo than pushing the passive control identity even more. :(
I see a lot of tempo tools here there are 7 cards that interact with hp here (buffs,heals) to solidify the priest hero power.
we got a Kabal Talonpriest here (the 2 mana 2/3 +2 hp) which is huge, now that the set is revamped we can get new cards that further buff the attack of minions now hat innerfire is out.. or more hp buffs, priest minions can afford to be more sticky.
I think that priest will now get better tools to fight for tempo cause now they can't burst you from 30 as long as there is a 5 hp minion on board..
lifesteal is always strong, but the whole random factor kind of irks me. It also falls off later in the game. There's a reason we don't play Cleave. NOt a bad card by itself, but presumably outclassed
.....I'm sorry what? So they basically reprinted the old Savagery for just 2-mana. it's never a dead card because of hero power and with enough attack buffs (or just a weapon) it becomes pretty crazy.
Looks like Demon Hunter will be better at tempo than Rogue.
Question 1 and 3: cards without a mark under the text will be either added to your collection instantly or you'll need to level up with the demon hunter/priest class to gain them; cards with the mark will be obtainable through classic packs.
Question 2: I think they'll just print less neutral cards, having less neutral cards would also be good to preserve class identity.
Power Infusion doesn't let you play your Arcane Tyrant for free.
Jokes aside, It is sad to see PW: Tentacles be strictly power crept but the card has never seen any form of play so it's fine to me for a basic card to power creep it a bit.
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
Auctioneer mostly, but also just keeping key minions alive.
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
Double Feast of Souls on the board. Just wanted to point it out.
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
to be fair, Demon Hunter hero cards would be a bit less likely because in canon only elves can become DHs...and we only have one elf hero.
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
to be completely fair, at this point shameless pwoer creep has been a thing for a while. Anyone remember Princess Huhuran. She will never be queen ):
New Demon Hunter Spell - Chaos Nova
I reserve judgement until we see all of their cards, but there's absolutely no other Control support revealed thus far.
Lord knows I'll try to make a Control DH work regardless. 5 mana Flamestrike? Hell yeah.
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
Probably too much to expect the dhunter's cards being free, but I'm keeping my hopes alive until they confirm it. It bears mention that if all these cards are obtained via the classic card pack, its going to piss many many players. Probably from the new expansion, but again, we'll wait and see.
New Demon Hunter Spell - Consume Magic
Prettyy bland.
Basically you want to hold on to this until you get full value or just use it when necessary. Nothing interesting really.
New Demon Hunter Minion - Ur'zul Horror
I love Ur'zul. They're probably my favourite creatures added in Legion. I always love seeing new WoW monsters getting representation.
New Demon Hunter Minion - Wrathscale Naga
6 minions dead = 18 damage that could potentially go face.
Why the fuck is Cannon Barrage as expensive as it is?
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
Why print less when you can print more? I think they would probably increase the number of cards per expansion.
For question 4, that's what one of the italian streamers who attended the summit said. There's gonna be something in it for the FTP community.
New Demon Hunter Minion - Raging Felscreamer
Pretty good, will work decently with a number of cards. Notably not a demon herself, meaning it stacks.
Sathrovarr combos?
New Demon Hunter Spell - Soul Cleave
Lifesteal in the Basic set. Here's hoping Drain Life and Holy Fire are updated to use the keyword as well.
(And Tidal Surge, but I won't blame them if they forgot that exists).
New Demon Hunter Spell - Command the Illidari
because the other one wasn't enough. The blowout potential is nuts. If Quest Hunter can work so can this.
New Demon Hunter Minion - Hulking Overfiend
no Rush no play.
We've had this before, it doesn't work, not even if you slam it turn 6.
New Demon Hunter Spell - Coordinated Strike
pretty much the absolute strongest card in their entire arsenal, especially considering all the synergy. Can't wait to get completely blown out by the crazy Naga and then see them drawa 3 cards off of it.
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
I see a lot of tempo tools here there are 7 cards that interact with hp here (buffs,heals) to solidify the priest hero power.
we got a Kabal Talonpriest here (the 2 mana 2/3 +2 hp) which is huge, now that the set is revamped we can get new cards that further buff the attack of minions now hat innerfire is out.. or more hp buffs, priest minions can afford to be more sticky.
I think that priest will now get better tools to fight for tempo cause now they can't burst you from 30 as long as there is a 5 hp minion on board..
New Demon Hunter Minion - Satyr Overseer
Rip Sharkfin Fan, you were too good for this world.
With hero power this is a 4-mana 6/4 which should be good enough.
Ménagerie à Trois - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
Congrats to the winner. What do you guys think of this one (author of the image: Brayan Menchú, found here)?
Flavour: Sir Magnet-o-Mrgl's one-on-one classes: make your own Abomi-mrgl-nation!
No vanilla stats since the effect allows for a pretty swingy turn.
New Demon Hunter Minion - Shadowhoof Slayer
So basically if Rogue could hero power turn 1 + a body. That's pretty strong.
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
oh hey thanks, I'm at work and it's chaos with them trying to get us ready to work from home
New Demon Hunter Spell - Soul Cleave
lifesteal is always strong, but the whole random factor kind of irks me. It also falls off later in the game. There's a reason we don't play Cleave. NOt a bad card by itself, but presumably outclassed
Why did you put gigantic spoilers on the front page?
If you don't want to be spoiled, and you know that an announcement will be up within a day, why are you checking a card game site for news, exactly?
New Demon Hunter Spell - Blade Dance
.....I'm sorry what? So they basically reprinted the old Savagery for just 2-mana. it's never a dead card because of hero power and with enough attack buffs (or just a weapon) it becomes pretty crazy.
Looks like Demon Hunter will be better at tempo than Rogue.
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
Question 1 and 3: cards without a mark under the text will be either added to your collection instantly or you'll need to level up with the demon hunter/priest class to gain them; cards with the mark will be obtainable through classic packs.
Question 2: I think they'll just print less neutral cards, having less neutral cards would also be good to preserve class identity.
Question 4: I don't get it.
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
Power Infusion doesn't let you play your Arcane Tyrant for free.
Jokes aside, It is sad to see PW: Tentacles be strictly power crept but the card has never seen any form of play so it's fine to me for a basic card to power creep it a bit.