It should be the DH mechanic; it seems like Prime Heroes (lvl-upped heroes from Runeterra?) and Imprisoned Demons (like Violet Hold Prisoners from Rise of Shadows solo content) are the expansion mechanics.
I'm looking forward to knowing whether this overhaul will result in the disappearance of cards like Circle of Healing, Northshire Priest, Mind Control, Divine Spirit & Inner Fire, Silence, Lightspawn, Lightwell, Auchenai Soulpriest, Mass Dispel, Shadowform, Mindgames and Cabal Shadow Priest...
After all only five new cards have been revealed and I guess some of these fourteen cards are definitely on the chopping block.
I do look forward to the buffs to Holy Nova, Holy Smite, Shadow Madness, Shadow Word: Death and Thoughtsteal (also kinda Temple Enforcer; it seems more playable now despite losing one attack). Also most of the new cards also seem fun and even Natalie Seline seems useful as hard removal which can even hit elusive target.
I'm not sure about a 1-Cost Hero Power. Also the Demon Hunter class in a far far future when Stardard rotates is going to be an exclusive Wild class (with only an Standard cycle of card support)? At least we can expect new classes coming next years.
Also incredible rework on the Priest. I like it and I hope they find their new class style because res is not that fun to play against.
Priest should be deleted from the game, not buffed. Evey meta that priest is viable in has been the worst meta. Unless all the other classes are also being reworked, I know what game I am never playing again until the devs realize how they screwed up
This all sounds super interesting, but I can't help but wonder what is being sent to the hall of fame for priest and more importantly, the stat line of Kael'thas. He can lead to so many fun decks and I want to just start playing it, assuming his mana cost isn't awful.
Ooooo, pairing her with Heimer does actually seem good AND fun - I'll give this a shot and let you know what I come up with! Looking forward to this! =)
I really hope this new class comes with better economy.. I mean adding a new class(2 if you count priest lol) is AWESOME and all BUT it means the price of the game increases significally, specially if every expansion now has 10 more cards (and 18 new collectible cards(2 legendaries and 16 none legendaries) as well as bigger odds for the classic set to not give you what you want..
good thing I started hoarding classic packs (too late though.. have just 2) cause it seems there are at least 30 new cards to collect there..
Well gonna need to see what blizzard does on that regard.. they will have to add total new UI and probably redesign the level system so MAYBE they will finally make the game playable for none whales..
Really like the changes but as long as no F2P support comes around I think I will stick with LoR
So I recently started playing with this deck a bit the last week or so (which is about how new this deck is as well) and not only is it STUPID easy to pilot but it will also help you ladder FAST! Not sure if anyone here has had a chance to play it yet? If not, here's a video on the decklist and some games: Zombie Garen Deck Guide.
My question is, do you think this deck will actually last as a #1 mid-range option or is this just a result of the current meta BEFORE the patch changes that were just announced today? I just feel like this deck is too simple and too one-sided as far as strategy is concerned to see any true longevity in competitiveness. What's everyone think!?
The Priest community demands update and or article on what is being removed and buffs/nerfs, as well as input from actual experienced priest players.
On the surface: Shadow Word: Ruin addresses that need for BIG mass removal Priest needs every expansion (although with power level and the sheer number of ridiculousness in late-game Hearthstone these days, needing four or more cards doing that is required).
Shadow Madness getting a buff is something I likey. Very underrated card and always useful when deathrattles are in vogue.
The new legendary is very utility and can kill untargetable minions, but quite hefty on mana. But can be comboed with Seance in wild -- bad timing for Standard as that card is from Rastakhan's Rumble.
IMO Holy Nova needs to do 3 damage; a majority of aggro is 3 health these days. Dropping mana down a point isn't enough.
Making Thief Priest cards dirt cheap might help that fun style; however, it needs more minions that provide stolen stuff as well or spells that steal the on-board minions. One weakness is stealing stuff from your opponent's deck rather than random anything of class like rogue is getting too many synergy cards that don't mesh with your stuff (totem buffs, silver hand recruit stuff, murlocs, weapons, etc.)
The (possible?) removal of Northshire Clericmeans Priest loses OTK ground. Dubious if the new cards fill the early game void of Priest, which has been its weakness.
I also noticed no Inner Fire and Divine Spirit (which I found to be newbish and the canary in the coal mine if that was the only win condition for the class). But with all the minion buffs, that might be a good thing for Standard. Wild? Eeek.
Did the class also lose Mass Dispel and Silence? That can be a big hit for control. Mass Dispel has finally gotten its time in mainstream priest decks too. I could live with Mass Dispel losing card draw. Another underrated card that has won games for me.
/1300+ wins with Anduin; Priest main through thick and very farking thin times
But...can you imagine if they said, "Uh, we're not sure who released the info you saw on Polygon, but someone made all that up. Anyway, we still have some great reveals for you..."
Although, that would be ALOT of stuff to create IF it's BS. I'm hoping it's real. Did I mention that I cannot wait?
Woah revamping classes is a thing now...? hopefully it isn't just priest that gets revamped. cause almost everything is buffed in priest with some new cards included.
If they are gonna revamp more if not all classes hopefully they can help the meta in both standard and wild.
Fake imo. Blizzard said multiple times that creating a 10th class was not something that they will do. About the priest rework, I think it's too much even for priest
Tinfoil time boys! Do you think maybe we'll get a rework and new hero every expac or is there only going to be priest and DH? More tinfoil time there isn't a new wow class this expac which would align to giving hearthstone 12 classes this year. Or maybe thats just my OCD fueled brain trying to convince me there's not going to be a 10 slot board with 2 missing slots for like four years.
Players have hoped/begged for this to happen since the Launch of the Game. Time and Time again the Devs told us that it's impossible, the Balancing would be too hard and so on. But now, they actually did it...
They gave Priest a Core Set that doesn't absolutely suck!
... oh, yeah. And they'll add a new Class, I guess
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
It should be the DH mechanic; it seems like Prime Heroes (lvl-upped heroes from Runeterra?) and Imprisoned Demons (like Violet Hold Prisoners from Rise of Shadows solo content) are the expansion mechanics.
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
I'm looking forward to knowing whether this overhaul will result in the disappearance of cards like Circle of Healing, Northshire Priest, Mind Control, Divine Spirit & Inner Fire, Silence, Lightspawn, Lightwell, Auchenai Soulpriest, Mass Dispel, Shadowform, Mindgames and Cabal Shadow Priest...
After all only five new cards have been revealed and I guess some of these fourteen cards are definitely on the chopping block.
I do look forward to the buffs to Holy Nova, Holy Smite, Shadow Madness, Shadow Word: Death and Thoughtsteal (also kinda Temple Enforcer; it seems more playable now despite losing one attack). Also most of the new cards also seem fun and even Natalie Seline seems useful as hard removal which can even hit elusive target.
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
Ah. The new class gets a taunt minion before Rogue does. Typical.
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
I'm not sure about a 1-Cost Hero Power. Also the Demon Hunter class in a far far future when Stardard rotates is going to be an exclusive Wild class (with only an Standard cycle of card support)? At least we can expect new classes coming next years.
Also incredible rework on the Priest. I like it and I hope they find their new class style because res is not that fun to play against.
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
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Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
Priest should be deleted from the game, not buffed. Evey meta that priest is viable in has been the worst meta. Unless all the other classes are also being reworked, I know what game I am never playing again until the devs realize how they screwed up
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
This all sounds super interesting, but I can't help but wonder what is being sent to the hall of fame for priest and more importantly, the stat line of Kael'thas. He can lead to so many fun decks and I want to just start playing it, assuming his mana cost isn't awful.
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
Notice that Demon Hunter "classic" cards have different watermark.
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
Also Btw Question is Outcast a Demon Hunter mechanic or the New Expansions mechanic
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
Wait, do we lose cards like Northshire Cleric and Shadow Word: Pain as well?
Also, what is "Outcast"?
Anyone have any good ideas for a competitive Corina Veraza deck!?
Ooooo, pairing her with Heimer does actually seem good AND fun - I'll give this a shot and let you know what I come up with! Looking forward to this! =)
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
I really hope this new class comes with better economy.. I mean adding a new class(2 if you count priest lol) is AWESOME and all BUT it means the price of the game increases significally, specially if every expansion now has 10 more cards (and 18 new collectible cards(2 legendaries and 16 none legendaries) as well as bigger odds for the classic set to not give you what you want..
good thing I started hoarding classic packs (too late though.. have just 2) cause it seems there are at least 30 new cards to collect there..
Well gonna need to see what blizzard does on that regard.. they will have to add total new UI and probably redesign the level system so MAYBE they will finally make the game playable for none whales..
Really like the changes but as long as no F2P support comes around I think I will stick with LoR
Thoughts on Zombie Garen? Will it last?
Sup everyone!
So I recently started playing with this deck a bit the last week or so (which is about how new this deck is as well) and not only is it STUPID easy to pilot but it will also help you ladder FAST! Not sure if anyone here has had a chance to play it yet? If not, here's a video on the decklist and some games: Zombie Garen Deck Guide.
My question is, do you think this deck will actually last as a #1 mid-range option or is this just a result of the current meta BEFORE the patch changes that were just announced today? I just feel like this deck is too simple and too one-sided as far as strategy is concerned to see any true longevity in competitiveness. What's everyone think!?
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
bruhhhhhhh
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
The Priest community demands update and or article on what is being removed and buffs/nerfs, as well as input from actual experienced priest players.
On the surface:
Shadow Word: Ruin addresses that need for BIG mass removal Priest needs every expansion (although with power level and the sheer number of ridiculousness in late-game Hearthstone these days, needing four or more cards doing that is required).
Shadow Madness getting a buff is something I likey. Very underrated card and always useful when deathrattles are in vogue.
The new legendary is very utility and can kill untargetable minions, but quite hefty on mana. But can be comboed with Seance in wild -- bad timing for Standard as that card is from Rastakhan's Rumble.
IMO Holy Nova needs to do 3 damage; a majority of aggro is 3 health these days. Dropping mana down a point isn't enough.
Making Thief Priest cards dirt cheap might help that fun style; however, it needs more minions that provide stolen stuff as well or spells that steal the on-board minions. One weakness is stealing stuff from your opponent's deck rather than random anything of class like rogue is getting too many synergy cards that don't mesh with your stuff (totem buffs, silver hand recruit stuff, murlocs, weapons, etc.)
The (possible?) removal of Northshire Clericmeans Priest loses OTK ground. Dubious if the new cards fill the early game void of Priest, which has been its weakness.
I also noticed no Inner Fire and Divine Spirit (which I found to be newbish and the canary in the coal mine if that was the only win condition for the class). But with all the minion buffs, that might be a good thing for Standard. Wild? Eeek.
Did the class also lose Mass Dispel and Silence? That can be a big hit for control. Mass Dispel has finally gotten its time in mainstream priest decks too. I could live with Mass Dispel losing card draw. Another underrated card that has won games for me.
/1300+ wins with Anduin; Priest main through thick and very farking thin times
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
I knew that Maiev missing on the twitter announcement was a heavy clue.
And the mage bundle for Kael'thas too.
I am suddenly happy because I already have Illidan, and I am expecting a buff on him =)
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
I cannot wait for tomorrow's big reveal!!!
But...can you imagine if they said, "Uh, we're not sure who released the info you saw on Polygon, but someone made all that up. Anyway, we still have some great reveals for you..."
Although, that would be ALOT of stuff to create IF it's BS. I'm hoping it's real. Did I mention that I cannot wait?
O_o
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
I guess they are getting rid of inner fire or divine spirit (or both got HoFed) so it save to add card lke that (and cheaper)
And all changes for priest is to get rid of OTK => Spells damage minions only, no more Velen(HoF i guess).
Psychic conjurer - mind vision?
Kultiran chaplain - Auchenai?
Power infusion - divine spirit?
Scarlet Subjugator - dunno....lightwell or massdispell
Shadow word ruin - probably shadow form
So basically they getting rid of shadow priest identity in classic
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
Woah revamping classes is a thing now...? hopefully it isn't just priest that gets revamped. cause almost everything is buffed in priest with some new cards included.
If they are gonna revamp more if not all classes hopefully they can help the meta in both standard and wild.
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
A new Demon Hunter class and priest is getting some love?! What a glorious time to be alive!!
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
I'm not entirely sure that the precedent adding classes sets is healthy for the game's longevity, but I welcome the priest retooling.
Overall, I would say it's too early to properly analyse this, but i'm leaning towards excited over sceptical as of now.
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
Polygon isn't going to post fakes. They were at the press event last month. They goofed on the publish date.
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
Fake imo. Blizzard said multiple times that creating a 10th class was not something that they will do. About the priest rework, I think it's too much even for priest
Ashes of Outland is Hearthstone's Next Expansion - New Demon Hunter Class, Priest Getting Overhaul, See the Demon Hunter Cards
Tinfoil time boys! Do you think maybe we'll get a rework and new hero every expac or is there only going to be priest and DH? More tinfoil time there isn't a new wow class this expac which would align to giving hearthstone 12 classes this year. Or maybe thats just my OCD fueled brain trying to convince me there's not going to be a 10 slot board with 2 missing slots for like four years.
New Expanion Leak and much more
That really came out of Nowhere!
Players have hoped/begged for this to happen since the Launch of the Game. Time and Time again the Devs told us that it's impossible, the Balancing would be too hard and so on. But now, they actually did it...
They gave Priest a Core Set that doesn't absolutely suck!
... oh, yeah. And they'll add a new Class, I guess