lol, yeah. It's the way these events are always phrased in official lore recounts because they need to be vague enough that any character could be the one in the story.
Made it to the Plague Lord with Finley, and FML, he got Rhonin out of the first tomb, then added 3 copies with Shadow of Death, then kept spamming his HP and burned me down like hell to like 6HP left, then the Truesilver Lance appeared!
The Injured Tol'vir in the thumbnail looks kinda gore: it hurts my sensitivity as both player of children's card games and person living in 2019.
I demand a bandage nerf followed by official excuses by whoever was in charge of this article.
/s
Edit: for those who didn't notice it, there's a /s in the post, and it's there for a specific reason. I guess most people don't even know that Injured Tol'vir's art was changed right before the release of the expansion, switching the arrows (see thumbnail) with bandages.
I know the stats suggest otherwise, but I find the Quest Hunter v. Control Warrior match-up to be perfectly winnable. Certainly not the 60-40 shown on HS replay.
People are talking about nerfing northshire cleric to 2 mana, and while this would certainly fix the problem, I don't like it too much. It makes the card too bad, it ruins all of priests tempo and they have no other card to fall back on. I think a better change would be to either change the heal to 2, this way priest still has a decent tempo play on turn one, but it feels more fair to the opponent.
Another option would be to make it say "whenever another minion", or maybe "another friendly minion" so that it wont draw as consistently, this would be a lighter change, but it would stop the priest player from playing a turn one cleric and and turn two hero power.
Changing it to 2 mana is fine, but if they were to do this they should make sure there is another decent (but less good) one drop for priest. I want this card to be nerfed as much as the next guy, but I don't want it to be entirely un-playable.
I am in favor of the complete overhaul. Priest notoriously has the worst basic/classic set. And it's by a wide margin. This results in a lot of very overtuned cards and feast-or-famine metagame cycles for priest.
you do realize that the entire point of the basic set is that it will be viable in standard forever, and if we were to do this that within just a few years each class would have access to over a hundred basic cards in wild.
that just shows how much of an annoying class priest is. Even when they are not the best deck they are still frustrating to play against because the entire game feels redundant. They just draw and draw until they deal 25 damage out of nowhere and you are dead, I agree with people that priests basic/classic set need an overhaul. I also wouldn't mind if they adjusted the expansion cards a little, but I don't think that would happen.
I got the one treasure that shuffles back 2 copies of a minion back into your deck that cost 1 and the priest psychic scream girl. Then "did the math" do make my deck only spells, big minions, and psychic scream girl. That worked out okay.
I really do HATE priest class, like visceral! Too many resurrect shenanigans in wild and I still remember the razakus era. But even so, what do you want them to do, they have been nerfed with no reason in extra-arms and before they killed one of the identity of the class (shadow priest) by sending mindblast to HoF. If it's going that way, simply substitute the class by a new one, since you are making it worthless. The class identity BS is rubbish. Ramp druid is gone, vanish is in HoF and prep(plus all the rogue spells) are useless, doomguard and any hope for discardlock also, and so on... This nerf mania is just useful to make people spend more money on expansions. Paint it as you want, stall meta, non-interactive combos blablabla. You nerf or hof this now, next month, oh surprise, another one needs a nerf. Cubelock, tempo rogue, warriors (too aggro or too control, take a pick), mages with combos or with low cost minions, always a deck to pick on. If it's so good, just craft the damn deck, eventually people will play another one. I personally have all the "meta decks" except druids and priest, and I don't play any shaman or control warrior. Just got tired of it. Buffs would be welcome again, to shake things up by improving our collections. Do you realize that more casual players can't afford all this nerfs and that we need them for the game to stay with a large base of players? Has anyone made the statistics of the dust cost of top tier decks over the past 2 years, and how many class legendaries enter those? Stop wasting resources and leave the sad standard priests alone, we have ruined enough classes already
Both dragon priest (with Divine Spirit and Inner Fire) and razakus priest are extremely solid. (Read: top legend viable)
Razakus priest got support in the form of Zephrys the Great, slow priest decks got early game removal support in the form of Penance, dragon priest got support with the previous buff to Extra Arms and you honestly dare say that resurrect priest never got support?
One of the problems with priest is that it's naturally a "control" class, but the signature "Power Word" and "Shadow Word" cards can't generate card advantage. Playing Shadow Word Pain on turn 2 vs aggro is not a great play, because they just play another minion and you don't have your removal any more. You spent a card to get rid of their card.
After the removal of DS/IF and the building of some other kind of win condition for Priests, I'd like to see the Shadow Words and Power Words given Twinspell.
Priest - Nerf or Overhaul?
Yeah, the best defence is a good offence, am I right? :D
Traversing Azeroth - By Fire Be Purged! The Fire Elementals
lol, yeah. It's the way these events are always phrased in official lore recounts because they need to be vague enough that any character could be the one in the story.
Priest - Nerf or Overhaul?
A lot of people forget that Inner Fire can be a defensive tool as well...
The Way-Too-Early-Nerf Thread
this basically sums up all of my thoughts and opinions about the priest class in one sentence.
Penance
Shadow Priest support Pooog
Priest is currently trash in wild & it would be a pertinent problem for the class in near future.
Little off topic: Penance turned out to be a pretty good card. To be fair, I didn't see it coming at all.
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Made it to the Plague Lord with Finley, and FML, he got Rhonin out of the first tomb, then added 3 copies with Shadow of Death, then kept spamming his HP and burned me down like hell to like 6HP left, then the Truesilver Lance appeared!
Right after that he played 7 Arcane Missiles...
Standard Meta Report #6 - September 16, 2019 - September 23, 2019
The Injured Tol'vir in the thumbnail looks kinda gore: it hurts my sensitivity as both player of children's card games and person living in 2019.
I demand a bandage nerf followed by official excuses by whoever was in charge of this article.
/s
Edit: for those who didn't notice it, there's a /s in the post, and it's there for a specific reason. I guess most people don't even know that Injured Tol'vir's art was changed right before the release of the expansion, switching the arrows (see thumbnail) with bandages.
Standard Meta Report #6 - September 16, 2019 - September 23, 2019
I know the stats suggest otherwise, but I find the Quest Hunter v. Control Warrior match-up to be perfectly winnable. Certainly not the 60-40 shown on HS replay.
Priest - Nerf or Overhaul?
People are talking about nerfing northshire cleric to 2 mana, and while this would certainly fix the problem, I don't like it too much. It makes the card too bad, it ruins all of priests tempo and they have no other card to fall back on. I think a better change would be to either change the heal to 2, this way priest still has a decent tempo play on turn one, but it feels more fair to the opponent.
Another option would be to make it say "whenever another minion", or maybe "another friendly minion" so that it wont draw as consistently, this would be a lighter change, but it would stop the priest player from playing a turn one cleric and and turn two hero power.
Changing it to 2 mana is fine, but if they were to do this they should make sure there is another decent (but less good) one drop for priest. I want this card to be nerfed as much as the next guy, but I don't want it to be entirely un-playable.
Priest - Nerf or Overhaul?
I am in favor of the complete overhaul. Priest notoriously has the worst basic/classic set. And it's by a wide margin. This results in a lot of very overtuned cards and feast-or-famine metagame cycles for priest.
Priest - Nerf or Overhaul?
you do realize that the entire point of the basic set is that it will be viable in standard forever, and if we were to do this that within just a few years each class would have access to over a hundred basic cards in wild.
Priest - Nerf or Overhaul?
that just shows how much of an annoying class priest is. Even when they are not the best deck they are still frustrating to play against because the entire game feels redundant. They just draw and draw until they deal 25 damage out of nowhere and you are dead, I agree with people that priests basic/classic set need an overhaul. I also wouldn't mind if they adjusted the expansion cards a little, but I don't think that would happen.
Iksar: "We have some plans to remove Divine Spirit"
Warsong Commander
The Way-Too-Early-Nerf Thread
Priest is one of the worst "best decks" we've ever had.
"Do the Math": the math doesn't check out
I got the one treasure that shuffles back 2 copies of a minion back into your deck that cost 1 and the priest psychic scream girl. Then "did the math" do make my deck only spells, big minions, and psychic scream girl. That worked out okay.
Traversing Azeroth - By Fire Be Purged! The Fire Elementals
Thanks again for this texts!
When you say " a group of adventurers" or similar you are referring to some WOW adventure or raid?
Iksar: "We have some plans to remove Divine Spirit"
Ok so expect new basic replacement next year... Gotcha
Priest - Nerf or Overhaul?
I really do HATE priest class, like visceral! Too many resurrect shenanigans in wild and I still remember the razakus era.
But even so, what do you want them to do, they have been nerfed with no reason in extra-arms and before they killed one of the identity of the class (shadow priest) by sending mindblast to HoF.
If it's going that way, simply substitute the class by a new one, since you are making it worthless.
The class identity BS is rubbish. Ramp druid is gone, vanish is in HoF and prep(plus all the rogue spells) are useless, doomguard and any hope for discardlock also, and so on...
This nerf mania is just useful to make people spend more money on expansions. Paint it as you want, stall meta, non-interactive combos blablabla.
You nerf or hof this now, next month, oh surprise, another one needs a nerf.
Cubelock, tempo rogue, warriors (too aggro or too control, take a pick), mages with combos or with low cost minions, always a deck to pick on.
If it's so good, just craft the damn deck, eventually people will play another one. I personally have all the "meta decks" except druids and priest, and I don't play any shaman or control warrior. Just got tired of it.
Buffs would be welcome again, to shake things up by improving our collections. Do you realize that more casual players can't afford all this nerfs and that we need them for the game to stay with a large base of players? Has anyone made the statistics of the dust cost of top tier decks over the past 2 years, and how many class legendaries enter those?
Stop wasting resources and leave the sad standard priests alone, we have ruined enough classes already
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Iksar: "We have some plans to remove Divine Spirit"
Why did u leave? U were a legend pn that salt thread. Im serious tho
Priest is currently trash in wild & it would be a pertinent problem for the class in near future.
Please define 'trash'.
Both dragon priest (with Divine Spirit and Inner Fire) and razakus priest are extremely solid. (Read: top legend viable)
Razakus priest got support in the form of Zephrys the Great, slow priest decks got early game removal support in the form of Penance, dragon priest got support with the previous buff to Extra Arms and you honestly dare say that resurrect priest never got support?
What are you on about?
Priest - Nerf or Overhaul?
One of the problems with priest is that it's naturally a "control" class, but the signature "Power Word" and "Shadow Word" cards can't generate card advantage. Playing Shadow Word Pain on turn 2 vs aggro is not a great play, because they just play another minion and you don't have your removal any more. You spent a card to get rid of their card.
After the removal of DS/IF and the building of some other kind of win condition for Priests, I'd like to see the Shadow Words and Power Words given Twinspell.
Priest - Nerf or Overhaul?
Not really. Haven't seen any of them from 15 to 5.
Iksar: "We have some plans to remove Divine Spirit"
You can bet your ass the moment the replacement for DS comes, people are just going to whine all over again.
Whenever priest gets something cool to play with, or use with old cards, people always lost their minds.