As title says, has anyone here purchased the BG board skin and do you think it's worth it?  Is it neat?  Does it have interactables?  etc.  I haven't seen any videos reviewing it anywhere so wanted to see if I could get any feedback on if it makes the experience worth it or not.

Thanks!

I play decks that take actual thinking like Thief Rogue, Handlock, and Menagerie DR DH. You play decks that take simple computing like Pirate Warrior, Elemental Shaman, and Face Hunter.

I am a human. You are a robot.

What piques my interest when a new set comes out are cards that look enjoyable and can lead to different paths each game. What you care about is which are over-tuned and will lead to 100''s of repetitive games.

I am a human. You are a robot.

When I net-deck something that looks good I'm happy to throw in a few cards I find fun, and I still win. You among millions shudder at the thought of deviating from the list.

I am a human. You are a robot.

When I win with my deck I know that I had a lot to do with it. When you win with yours, trust me it was more the deck.

I am a human. You are a robot.

I play Arena because it's fresh every time and takes some skill to get far in. You play Duels with the same 15 cards every time in every class; playing against other robots and whoever gets the more busted treasures and passives wins.

I am a human. You are a robot.

I put enjoying myself playing a video game above winning while you are a sad android that can't stand to lose.

I am a human. You are a robot.

Thread title.

Greetings everyone, and welcome to the submission thread of fifth challenge of Master Duelist!

General Information

This challenge will begin today, December 10th, and will end on December 31st. During this window of time, you'll have to start a Duels run with a starting deck including at least 6 Fractured in Alterac Valley cards: both class and neutral cards are good!

Everyone who'll post proof of a 7+ wins run in this article's comment section will be awarded with a different amount of gold, an in-site currency you'll be able to earn from different activities and that will be used to purchase cosmetics in our in-site shop.

Submission Rules

In order for your run to count towards the challenge, you'll have to provide an appropriate proof of your feat; otherwise, your result won't count. To be precise, you will have to reply to this forum thread including:

• a picture of how your run ended;
• a picture of your starting deck;
• a picture(s) of your final deck.
• any other information you want: even though it's not necessary, it may help other players or generate a discussion!
  • you can submit as many runs as you want: we'll always pick the best one. Don't be afraid to show what you experimented with: let's start a discussion here!

Remember that we have to make sure you actually played following the rules, so please help us in doing so - disqualifying players feels bad, and we'd want to avoid it if possible! No exceptions will be made.

Challenge Rewards

Here's a quick breakdown explaining the rewards you'll receive based on your performances:

Time Criteria

Those which follow are the time criteria we'll use to determine the winner in case of identical scores:

• An Heroic run will be considered more difficult than a Casual one, therefore Heroic players will have the priority.
  • If you get the best score overall with a 10-wins run in Casual and somebody else gets a 10-wins run in Heroic, the latter will be the winner of the challenge.
• In case of more people getting the same score, the winner will be decided by the submission time.
  • If more players will get to 12 wins, losses will count as well: a 12-0 will be considered better than a 12-2 or a 12-1. 
  • You could get the highest score on the first day as well as on the last day of the challenge, but if someone submits the same score before you do, then they'll be the winner.

Closing Information

If you want to learn more about this challenge, make sure to visit our guide page, where you'll be able to find a couple of starting decks provided by ourselves in order for you to take inspiration for your runs.

Moreover, don't forged to share your own creations with the community by adding them to our deck database via our deckbuilder.

Scion Set

Hunting Theme:

These 3 are considered "Prey" and function similarly to Treants or Animal companions. The pool can expand with new expansions.

Fire Magic:

Positioning and Agility:

Diverse cards:

This is a work in progress. I'll edit and update this during the following days. Any feedback is welcomed and gladly appreciated!

Competition Theme: Combo Harvester

It's time to start bringing those Mercenary innovations over into the main game - starting with those fancy Combos!

• You must create a regular Hearthstone card which uses the Spell School Combo mechanic from Mercenaries
  • For those unfamiliar, some abilities in Mercenaries have additional effects if an ability of a specific Spell School was used previously that turn - Nature Combo, Fire Combo etc. - and we're looking to see this mechanic translated into regular Hearthstone.
  • For example, a card would have its Fel Combo ability activate if you played a Fel spell earlier that turn.

BloodMefist and anchorm4n have joined forces for this prompt - a particularly potent Combo, I think you'll agree!

As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Dec 20 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sat, Dec 25 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Dec 25 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sun, Dec 26 16:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Dec 26 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Mon, Dec 27 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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Competition Theme: Frozen Festivities

As is tradition for our holiday competitions, you have three prompts to choose from - your card just needs to meet one to qualify!

• Stay Frosty
  • Create a card that interacts with Frost spells. Simply being a Frost spell doesn't count.
    • We're looking for cards that'll be happy to see a little snow this Winter Veil!
• Deck the Halls
  • Create a card that interacts with your deck.
    • Start putting up those deckorations!
• Check It Twice
  • Create a card with "double" or "twice" in its textbox.
    • You've got to be really thorough to make sure you're getting it write!

Of course, you can always take on the challenge of making a card that meets all the requirements if you're feeling daring!

It's that festive time of year again, and another Winter Veil competition is upon us! Rejoice, be merry and have a happy end to the year!

As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Dec 20 18:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sat, Dec 25 18:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Dec 25 18:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sun, Dec 26 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Dec 26 18:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Mon, Dec 27 18:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

Discussion Thread Rules

Please note: This is a special competition and not in a normal season.

So Bruised by God one of the best Runeterra players strictly on ladder has come out to say that he thinks the Kenin Ezreal nerf was heavy handed.

https://youtu.be/7TGeMe3REbw

I personally agree, because the only thing keeping infinite value decks in cheque aka shellfolk cycle shenanigans (as an example) was the very real threat that you would just instantly lose queuing into a combo matchup that would just burn you down to 0 even if you had 100 cards.

That threat is gone now, taking the matchup options of aggro-> midrange -> control-> combo down to essentially midrange/aggro/control soup aka I start agressive, cycle hard, play midrange threats and then transition into infinite value lategame.

You compound this lack of deck building identity with limited viable champion compositions, and I can understand his frustration and the general lack of engagement with the game from popular streamers like Swim and Mogwai.

Afterall how can you cry for a nerf and simultaneously be responsible for the dumbing down of the game by limiting the deck building variety and matchup tables, and champ compositions.

Now this is more of an overall trend in the game, a lot of interesting and viable decks have been nerfed into the ground leading into a lack of build identity. I think Shen can be pushed back on top to fight dragons, Azir Irelia can be pushed back to fight aggro, and Fizz Tf can be pushed back to counter control, and yes Ezreal Kenin can be pushed to counter value decks.

If everything is broken and unbalanced by definition nothing will be and it will lead to more dynamic and unpredictable matchups and play experiences. Just my two cents, what do you guys think?

Hi fellas.

Something come up in my mind, and I decide to make it happen.

How about making a card that can describe:
- Your personality. (Meme or pun is acceptable, but it's optional), or
- Description of your user ID, or what effect would be if your ID was a card, or
- Something you like to do in your life and make that into a card.

Any feedback is always appreciated. Anything. But please make sure your ID is on the card name itself
And It's up to you to use any kind of card. Whether it's Runeterra, Hearthstone, etc.

But since I mostly played Hearthstone, here's mine.

Happy Weekend.
EDIT. I wonder what kind of card Flux would be. Had been in my mind a few times.

I'm more of a collector and thus never got into deck building in Hearthstone although I'm playing HS since the very beginning. Since the meta is getting more and more boring for me, I want to take a look at deck building. I feel, it is a good point in time, since next year a lot of sets will rotate and the card pool will be rather small.

However I can't find any real detailed guide about how to approach deck building at all. The best one I found is the Beginners Guide over at Icy-Veins, which is quite superficial.

Can you recommend any good guides (YT or Twitch Videos would be okay too), that go beyond the basic tips?

Well, I actually knew this was a thing a few days back but since only Reddit is showing it, I thought I should at very least keep all informed that Thjis is hosting an invitational tournament today (21st Dec) on 2pm CET. Watch it via his twitch or through the other participants. Far as I know, Kibler, bunnyhopper, nohandsgamer, gaby, and curiously Cora (currently in blizz as designer) are part of it.

At very least because its less serious than blizz run tournaments we can expect there to be a mix of tier 1-2 decks along with a few less viable but fun decks as well. It is, after all, the first tournament post patch.

For anyone serious about hearthstone esport, or just ranked standard should give it a watch. Its one of those rare non-blizz tournament I've seen in ages.

I'm probably the only person who feels this way because I'm a bit of a curmudgeon, but is anyone else finding the proliferation of skins a bit... much?

I started playing (mostly F2P, but I did get the two most recent Tavern Passes) back around TGT. There were some alternate skins then, but not a crazy number. I remember being so stoked when I got my first (Morgl, I think?) because of their (relative) rarity.

Now it seems like every other week there's a bundle of 5-8 dropping, or maybe two bundles. I don't feel compelled to collect them, and don't care if other people want them. And hey, if you don't want the bundles, there's the 14 or so on the rewards track. Plus the 200 level portraits. Go Nuts with trying to get them! No complaints. 

But it does seem like each time I load Battlegrounds I have trouble recognizing which hero is which. Every time* (*obviously not every time) I open the game there's new pop ups with ads for more bundles. I queue into a match and I'm kind of bewildered what my opponent is (particularly if playing on mobile).

It's not that it's bad, per se, but it seems a little overloaded to me.

Yesterday I saw two shop offers. Alterac Valley welcome (20 money, 10 AV packs, 10 Standard, 1 AV Legy)  and a similar golden bundle. I was confused there was no news on this site about this. Now the offer is gone. Did I miss it?

Source: https://hearthstone-decks.net/hearthstone-winter-veil-starts-on-december-21st-bundles-free-skin/

Is it intentional for Felwalker to not draw 3 cards from Hand of Gul'dan?

Competition Theme: Worth Every Penny

It's an expensive world we live in, and the cards you're making this week just keep asking for more mana!

• You must create a card which increases the cost of a friendly card or Hero Power
  • Just one card or all of them at once - you could even have it increase its own cost!

DestroyerR has asked us for cards that just keep making you pay for them - so make sure you've got spare mana to hand!

As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Dec 13 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sat, Dec 18 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Dec 18 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sun, Dec 19 16:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Dec 19 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Mon, Dec 20 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

Discussion Thread Rules

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A new Common Neutral Minion, Blood Guard, has been revealed!

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Am I wrong or there were supposed no nerfs today?

When Kennen first came along, I discovered in my first match that you don't have to play just recalled units for his trigger to level up. Any duplicate unit will work. This has led me to the question? What other play styles and champions does he pair with? Bellow is my first experiment.

As you can see, is focuses on fielding units (at best, the Encroaching Mist) and then recalling and copying them to re-trigger their effects. I think this is a deck style that could be used with other unit spam champions like Azir but what do you think? What are other creative ways to speed level Kennen? Or use his support cards to buff other decks?

PS: I'm also looking for feedback on this deck. It plays well, but not great and I'm looking for ways to improve.

Greetings, travelers.

I've been recently playing the three latest installments of Hearthstone's Solo Adventures. While playing them, I found myself enjoying the story much more than I thought, since they usually tend to be pretty back-bones. So, I thought I could make a little ranking just for fun. Yeah, it's ranking, not a tier list. Sorry for the clickbait.

As a quick disclaimer, I'll be just evaluating the storytelling, not the gameplay. Thus, Dungeon Run-likes and Dr. Boom's Puzzles are excluded, since they don't have much story going on (even if some of them have nice character moments). Also, this is obviously just my opinion. If you disagree, I encourage you to give your own opinion in a civil way or even make your own ranking.

Finally, beware, because there will be plenty of spoilers for pretty much every Solo Adventure.

So, let's begin.

#10 - Knights of the Frozen Throne: Icecrown Citadel

Let's get this out of the way. The Adventures which just try to recreate raids from World of Warcraft are all going to be at the bottom of the ranking. In terms of story, they tend to be a boss rush with a small twist in the end, if so.

Out of all of them, I find Icecrown Citadel to be the most basic. Sure, most characters here are iconic, but they're not depicted in an interesting way.

The best thing about this Adventure is the class challenge against The Lich King, but since that's a gameplay element, it doesn't count for this tier list.

#9 - Blackrock Mountain

In terms of pure storytelling, this is probably the most interesting out of all the WoW raid Adventures. I mean, it has the whole betrayal of Victor Nefarius and stuff happens not just at the end of the story.

That said, it hasn't much else going for it. Sure, the Dark Iron Dwarves have a pretty entretaining personality, but that's about it.

#8 - One Night in Karazhan

This might be a bit controversial, since I remember most people hating the party theme of this adventure back in the day, but I really enjoyed it. Hearthstone has a flavor distinct from the rest of the Warcraft universe, and I think this expansion really helped to cement this identity.

I'd highlight the Barnes wing, which was very cool and imaginative.

#7 - Curse of Naxxramas

Hearthstone's debut Adventure makes the top of the raid-inspired story modes. Yeah, it's true, the story is as basic as it gets, but there's one thing that elevates this Adventure.

Yeah, it's obviously Kel'Thuzad.

His Hearthstone personality is just so entretaining and sassy, I couldn't resist to put this on top. This is probably the first tonal departure Hearthstone had compared to the Warcraft universe, so, just like with Karazhan, you have to appreciate that.

#6 - Descent of Dragons: Galakrond's Awakening

I wouldn't be surprised if this was a fan favorite, but I honestly think there's too much going on here. As the conclusion of the experimental Year of the Dragon, this Adventure touches a lot of characters: the League of E.V.I.L., the League of Explorers, Karl and Lenny George, Kragg, Galakrond himself...

Sure, the conclusion of several arcs here is very satisfying (Reno and Karl/George come to mind), but I think I would've enjoyed it much more if this whole thing was a bit more focused.

In a way, this is like Hearthstone's Infinity War, a film which I don't personally enjoy as much as most people because of how many things it tries to focus on.

#5 - Ashes of Outlands: Trial by Felfire

In terms of pure storytelling, this is one of the strongest contenders in the whole ranking. Baduu leaving the group and later being brainwashed by the Rusted Legion was a very thrilling event. I also liked Aranna talking shit about her sister Elise, just to embrace her philosophy in the end. Sure, Illidan's final redemption was quite lame, but nobody is perfect.

Besides that, I also loved the flavor of assembling a group of Outcasts who help each other to survive (kinda like Aranna's own League of Explorers), even if the personality of none of them was particularly interesting.

So, why is this Adventure so low in the rank? Yeah, it's obviously the "talking in verse" gimmick. I guess they were trying to go for a shakesperean tragedy feel with this decision, but this whole thing is very optimistic for that. For a story which has its main characters' eyes replaced with demonic fireballs, it has a very feel-good and empathy-driven conclusion lol

In my opinion, this decision would've made way more sense for the Demon Hunter Prologue, since Illidan's story is quite tragic. Speaking of which...

#4 - Ashes of Outlands: Prologue

Even if in a pretty basic way, I think Illidan's fall from grace is pretty well told here. As I said above, this story's chain of misunderstandings has a very Greek/shakespearean tragedy flavor to them, in the sense that all issues are caused its protagonists' fatal flaws. Illidan's pride and power-hunger are obviously a pretty important part, but I like that the story also blames Malfurion's self-righteousness. All in all, pretty cool stuff.

#3 - Book of Heroes

I'm kinda surprised it took them so long to make this Adventure, since it's a pretty obvious move. Still, getting to know the background of these heroes we know from some long ago was pretty cool.

As someone whose main knowledge about the Warcraft universe comes from playing Warcraft III and reading the WoW Wiki, this story mode was pretty interesting. The stories told here had some familiarity, but I also discovered a lot of new information about Warcraft lore.

To be honest, this game mode is not without flaws. Some stories were not particularly well fit for being told in this fashion, which led to jarring time skips (ahem, Uther) or crucial character development being dispached with a short line of dialog.

Compared to something similar like the Demon Hunter Prologue, this is told in a more clumsy way, but, since this has more content, I decided to give it the upper hand.

#2 - The League of Explorers

We're the League! The Explorer's League! And we're a League of Explorers!

What's not to love here? Mysterious settings, thrilling adventures, ancient artifacts and memorable characters. All four members of the League and Rafaam are awesome and iconic. Sure, the story is a bit formulaic and mcguffin-y, but it's pretty entretaining (it's also very fitting that it's plot is structured like the first Indiana Jones movie).

This was the very first Hearthstone original story, which focused on (mostly) Hearthstone original characters. In a way, this is also the first expansion that feels like modern Hearthstone, so that alone makes it very important for the game as a whole.

But most crucially, it still holds up to this day as one of Hearthstone's best Adventures, at least in terms of story and characters.

#1 - Book of Mercenaries

I know this game mode isn't finished by now, but my god! The Stormwind battle, with Tamsin and Cariel's chapters is easily the most endearing story Hearthstone has ever told. Their relationship is so well done not just for Hearthstone, but for Warcraft in general. Cornelius' characterization as a strict father, just to end up like he does, and the way Cariel reacts to it. Awesome stuff.

I'll admit that I was pretty disapointed by the first two episodes (especially Rokara's), but the overarching story keeps ramping in a very well crafted way. Honestly, the final Alterac segment would need to flop incredibly hard for me to put this on second place.

And this was my ranking. I'd like to know your opinions or even your own personal rankings.

See you around :)

Check out the newest animation video from Carbot.

You know things have gotten bad for Blizzard when this hit the nail pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Hzh43k330

Greetings there! I am coming with something a bit different, after watching a fair bit of Solem playing niche card games, and also being a player of a few like Duelyst and Faeria. It's a concept of my own Collectible Card Game with the placeholder name Cyber Zone.

This picture shows what would separate my game from other card games. It has some elements of a Tower Defense game, played on a 8x5 grit (size subjective to change).

• Black dots are the 5-tile path every player creates at the start of the match. One on each side is covered by a beige dot, which I'll explain soon.
• Cyan dot is the Nexus that you also place at the start of your match.
• Purple dot is the Portal, but your opponent places it where they want, still near the end of the track you've built. This is where troops come from.

Troops are one of two minion types, marked by a beige dot, used to be summoned on your opponent's board, and once they reach the Nexus, they damage the opposing player for their Attack damage. They move one tile forward each turn. Heroes have 15 Health for now.

Turrets are the other minion type, marked by a dark blue dot, used to be summoned on your own board to prevent the enemy troops from reaching your Nexus. They can attack in straight lines as shown on the picture, but some will be able to bend those rules.

The yellow lines indicate how far and in which directions a turret can attack. On average, they can attack within a 3x3 area around themselves, like how King moves in Chess, and fire in straight lines. This picture shows an example card (Spiteful Flame Sentry) and from how afar it can attack the beige dot when positioned correctly, albeit my bad for slight misleading. The example cards are shown below (with obvious placeholder art and prototype covers).

Keywrords and more info here

Sentry Icon - for Turret cards. They can be only placed close to your track unless specified.

Solider Icon - for Troop cards. They come out of the Portal a turn after you play it.

Crystal Icon - for Pylon cards. These are like your Hero Powers that start in your hand like Quests. They can't be placed near the track, though, but can be placed everywhere.

Battery Icon - for Action cards. These are the equivalent of spells. For now, they are split by the same speed pattern from Legends of Runeterra (ignore Force Barrier and its inconsistent wording plz). Traps give a secret bonus to a tile of your choice, triggered when an enemy troop steps on it. They are always of Sharp speed, or otherwise Focus like in Exhaust.

Gear Icon - for Gear cards. These are the equivalent of weapons. You equip them on turrets. They have Attack and Durability.

There are six factions, five of which you can see on example cards (Fire, Thunder, Sun, Snowflake, Plasma) - the Squirrel's one is Neutral. Also, there are four rarities - Common, Rare, Epic and Legendary (may change names or add Mythic for Pylons).

Turn starts draw you a card, give a Crystal (Mana Crystal, up to 10) and move your Troops one tile. You start with 1 Crystals, and the player going second may get an equivalent to Coin.

There would be a casual gameplay mode, split into the equivalent of Hearthstone's Classic (only base set cards) and with all cards, and Ranked with all cards, MAYBE split into Standard and Wild once enough cards are created to warrant the separation.

Monetization system should be similar to LoR, as... come on, it's clearly the best and most f2p friendly so far on the market, so why not use it?

Keep in mind I never played Kenin Ezreal I am simple going imperically based on stats.

The deck has gone from a commanding 55% winrate to a 45% winrate. Putting Lee back as the best Ionia deck seeing it go up 1% to 52.

Honestly I don't know if it was actually worth it, like if you enjoy midrange decks absolutely they are doing better control is also doing better.

But it hasn't shaken up the meta in the way people thought, while simultaneously killing an entire archetype just because people couldn't tech properly or play the matchup.

So on the one hand you have a new champ being murdered one week into his release, just so the other decks can go up 2% on ladder like it seems like maybe the reaction was too strong here.

But on the other hand if a deck like Azir Irelia could be considered meta altering maybe Kenin was just as bad, who's to say.

What do you guys think?

Why do they even bother to release these fun cards if they aren't going to be competitive??? I started playing back in Meanstreets and it's always been the same problem: they release some very clever and enjoyable cards but rarely and never very successfully give them a buff or support when they fall short 

My eyes lit up when I found out neo burgle Rogue was actually decent... Well that was until the experimenting phase ended. Now I'm running into the same libram pals, quest mages and locks and etc ( YOu SOULESs ROBOTs Do Us A FAVOr ANd UNINSTALl YOURSELVEs).

But I really can't blame them. Nobody likes losing multiple times in a row with a horse that can't quite race. But what if it's the horse you love?

Why the crap haven't they learned over these years to just buff what ppl want to play. They A. Have the data. And B. They should have a responsibility to back up these cards they release and ppl look forward to.

So we talk a lot about meta, and card balance, and what Champs are strongest.

But sometimes it's worth drawing back the curtain on matchups we personally struggle with  and anything excluded is relatively easy to deal with or tech against, or play against.

1. Dragons - it challenges and strikes with demacia, it grows large midrange threats, and ramps into Asol...this deck scares me because it essentially perfect at being equally good into everything and the best decks often are.

2. Infinite cycle Heimer - kill one thing and they play another, and another and another and another...this deck is control proof and midrange proof so it's everything I hate.

3. Deep & Lurk - something about these decks just very menacing, one is an excellent tournament deck that is just waiting for its time, and the other will just steam roll you if you arent playing perfectly

4.  Ahiri - out of all the new Ionia cards Ahiri is the trickiest to deal with. Amazing stat line for mana with the best keyword, and she basically has elusive too. You enter into a tough situation do you sharpsite the droplet only to eat a twin disciples no you don't so you eat dmg every turn and it's death of a thousand cuts 

5. Rumble - the ultimate do you have the answer card, you can just throw it out. Much like Sivir it's just a pain but unlike her he has a much better level up, but if he does get answered you just loose.

6. Xerath, I have a lot of respect for players who main this guy because his play pattern when run well is exceptionally erratic and unpredictable. Will you beat him most of the time sure but it will be scary the whole time.

So yeah thats it for my list, once again I don't believe these are the best or most competitive decks just the lists that impact me the most when playing against them. 

Things like aggro, and Ezreal you run into so often you can run those matches in your sleep.