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Greetings everyone, and welcome to the submission thread of third challenge of Master Duelist!

General Information

This challenge will begin today, November 11th, and will end on November 30th. During this window of time, you'll have to start a Duels run with a starting deck including at least 5 spells belonging to just one Spell School. School-less spells are allowed and Signature Treasures count towards the restriction.

Everyone who'll post proof of a 7+ wins run in this article's comment section will be awarded with a different amount of gold, an in-site currency you'll be able to earn from different activities and that will be used to purchase cosmetics in our in-site shop.

Submission Rules

In order for your run to count towards the challenge, you'll have to provide an appropriate proof of your feat; otherwise, your result won't count. To be precise, you will have to reply to this forum thread including:

• a picture of how your run ended;
• a picture of your starting deck;
• a picture(s) of your final deck.
• any other information you want: even though it's not necessary, it may help other players or generate a discussion!
  • you can submit as many runs as you want: we'll always pick the best one. Don't be afraid to show what you experimented with: let's start a discussion here!

Remember that we have to make sure you actually played following the rules, so please help us in doing so - disqualifying players feels bad, and we'd want to avoid it if possible! No exceptions will be made.

Challenge Rewards

Here's a quick breakdown explaining the rewards you'll receive based on your performances:

Time Criteria

Those which follow are the time criteria we'll use to determine the winner in case of identical scores:

• An Heroic run will be considered more difficult than a Casual one, therefore Heroic players will have the priority.
  • If you get the best score overall with a 10-wins run in Casual and somebody else gets a 10-wins run in Heroic, the latter will be the winner of the challenge.
• In case of more people getting the same score, the winner will be decided by the submission time.
  • If more players will get to 12 wins, losses will count as well: a 12-0 will be considered better than a 12-2 or a 12-1. 
  • You could get the highest score on the first day as well as on the last day of the challenge, but if someone submits the same score before you do, then they'll be the winner.

Closing Information

If you want to learn more about this challenge, make sure to visit our guide page, where you'll be able to find a couple of starting decks provided by ourselves in order for you to take inspiration for your runs.

Moreover, don't forged to share your own creations with the community by adding them to our deck database via our deckbuilder.

Competition Theme: Battle Of The Bards

We want you to feel the groove this week, so get into a good rhythm when creating!

• You must create a card themed around Music
  • We're looking for musical references in the art or name - if you can squeeze one into the effect that's a bonus!

Fittingly, this weeks theme comes to us from MrRhapsody - make sure you create something worthy of the name!

As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Nov 22 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sat, Nov 27 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Nov 27 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sun, Nov 28 16:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Nov 28 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Mon, Nov 29 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

Discussion Thread Rules

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As in the title, Naturalize is missing from deckbuilder feature. I tried searching by name, expansion (legacy), cost, type, but it's just not there.

Often it blurts out noises out of my phone. It's kind of annoying. It sounds like an ad is starting but I just hear a half second of it. I don't understand the point of it. Why is this, can someone explain?

Now we've seen all the cards, what are you hoping for in your packs? What will be your day 1 crafts?

I've evolved backwards (?) to F2P again and am mainly playing Wild. Here's my wishlist:

Caria Felsoul - One day, Big Demon Hunter will be a thing and this card will probably be a part of it.

Ice Trap - This will be a staple in all Hunter decks that aren't aggro.

Mass Polymorph - I don't know in which deck I can play this yet, but it will be super fun to mess with Priests and Warlocks in Wild!

Lightforged Cariel - Handbuff Paladin was very strong and fun to play a few months ago. Maybe it can make a comeback?

Xyrella, the Devout - I'm a sucker for Deathrattles so this is a top priority card for me. I'll probably just put it into a Boar Priest deck and replace the boars with Leper Gnomes. Then again, Priest also has lots of other strong Deathrattles which can be combined with Awaken the Makers and resurrection shenanigans.

Shadowcrafter Scabbs - Bounce shenanigans are fun, Mana cheat OP.

Bru'kan of the Elements - Might find a home in Shudderwock lists.

Tamsin's Phylactery - Insert my reasoning for Xyrella here. Might be harder to make this work though.

Abominable Lieutenant - Soft Taunt due to the snowball potential. Might find a home in some big decks.

Those are the most interesting cards for me. Depending on my pack luck, I'd most of all try to toy around with Deathrattle Priest on day 1. What are your wishes and your plans?

As part of Eternal's next set in early November, Dire Wolf is giving 150 Expedition-legal cards to all accounts, old and new. So this may help bring in new players or for veteran players it may fill in some gaps they have in their collections. The cards cannot be dusted into shiftstone, even if duplicate.

Why is it that EVERY single time I am thinking on my turn and have a minion ready to attack but of course im not gonna cuz it's a bad trade (eg they have a big taunt) my opponent has to highlight it in an attempt to try to persuade me to?

I don't barge into your house and start touching your pets family or houseplants. Please afford me the same respect. Thank you in advance.

https://lor.mobalytics.gg/meta-tier-list

We see pretty major tier list adjustments this month.

Basically every single control or combo deck has dropped down to the lowest tier.

Thralls, darkness, Lee Sin, Jayce etc.

While aggro still sits at the top, and plunder is there for some variety. The truth is that it should probably be replaced by pirate aggro if we are going strictly by winrates.

So is aggro a problem? It hasn't changed or gotten any better as of late, the lists are the same, the cards are the same, there could be an argument that control decks are being squeezed out but I don't see that as the case.

The way control is being built lately is that it typically just cycles and delays the game instead of teching in actual answers in the form of spells. Darkness being a perfect example where you can't play the box, or a withering wail or a vile fest, you have to play 2/2 into 3 mana darkness that right there might be too slow, and veigar on 4 is a death sentence.

I think this more than anything is why aggro and tempo decks are winning, because control decks are't really control decks with answers, they are cycling or combo decks with high synergy.

Just play good control cards and I bet the winrates for this archetype improve.

I know Majin Bae a pretty all right player is running a full 3 control/combo deck line up to the next tournament so it will be interesting to see how he does.

I would say better than the tier list would suggest that's for sure.

Just curious to hear some opinions. Mine are:

Token DH will not be good. Instead, a token package will be run in DH similar to the "discard" package Warlock is running now in standard.

Pirate Warrior will stay meta.

Mage and Shaman will not have a place in the meta.

Hello guys,

Just wanna know what you feel about the direction Blizzard will take on the next expansion?

will they keep on Adding pirates and murlocs?

should they add demons which actually is a poor archetype? 

i personally think they should add some attackers because caster dominate the game 

i would like to see Grull and Kurtus like type of mercs more often. Specially a human killer.

the fel class should be reinforced and maybe some frost And arcane abilities which are too rare.

Some legendary Mercs at the bottom of the E rank should also find party mates to empower them ( Jaraxxus, Edwin, Thrall)

And I want to see more Dragons : where are Deathwing, Nozdormu, Malygos, Ysera. 

Balance the race is important too me, Beast , troll, undead, Tauren , elfs... stop adding humans and Orcs. 

What are you thought?

So this isnt about who's your favorite cheese in the mercs game mode. But rather whos your favorite merc outta the characters we've met this year? Personally my favorite is Varden they're pretty neat and I like their dynamic with the rest of the group of what we saw em do in mercs. Bru'kan the funny chicken troll is definitely second though.

I thought this would be an interesting question:

What are cards in the game that you deem worthy of being champions? My example would be Atakahn, Bringer of Ruin. He is such a fun, strong end-game card. There are a lot of cards that counter him, but he is really fun to play around with.

What would be your choice of cards that deserve a promotion? 

https://mobalytics.gg/blog/lor-7-seasonal-tournament-decks-between-worlds/

Nothing exciting or interesting going on here, not seeing any control decks period because they are harder to pilot.

Not seeing deep or ledros control or any the other "tournament" deck options availible, no dragons either yeeesh, very little pure midrange.

Honestly, if everyone sticks with decks from this exceptionally safe list this tournament is gonna be about as boring as worlds was.

Gotta say one thing for the days of mtg professional play, but those guys had definite decks and styles of decks they preffered and were pretty easily distinguishable from one another because of it.

How else would of the hall of fame system worked if they were all essentially the same person?

For me I'm gonna scan the stream to look for the single bright spark that decided to pilot something interesting, hell I would take lisandra Thralls as a breath of fresh air at this point.

The best decks right now pivot from early game to end game effectively without being to dependent on individual game plans.

Lurk can be agressive but it has big overwhelmers.

Jayce acts like a spell control deck but has insane late game swings.

Bandle tree plays a bunch of agressive dudes and then otk's you out of nowhere.

Following that trend is my new landmark aggro - syke slay control deck.

Plays very scary big dudes in the midrange lots of 5/3 and 5/4 and 3/4 3/3 type of stat lines.

But all of that is a ruse for you to trade your cycle creatures into them and spend spells to finish them off.

Now rampaging baccai is active he kills heimer for free, we have rite of arcane to kill him, and minimorph if things get out of hand. After all that plays out then - then we play a big Nasus good luck out valuing that every game.

And honestly sometimes you just win with the landmark stuff, it happens you burn em down with zigs, or your instant 3 body play for 4 mana can be too much for some decks to deal with.

Baccai sandspinner is a tech choice I value it slightly higher than gifts for Renekton ;) if you aren't just playing it for the Sivir value.

Seems to be a lot of confusion around this concept so I thought I'd help out.

First of all you need to go to the archetype stats this will aggregate all the winrates of a certain deck category. This is helpful do get a proper view of how certain champ combinations are actually perform outside of tech choices like oh I added two rite of negation and shifted my winrate by 2% its like okay but you could do that in any deck so who cares...always look at the aggregate for the archetype.

https://lor.mobalytics.gg/stats/archetypes

The second thing is aggro performs on average 5% percent better in LOR due to punishing greedy decks which they will ocassionaly que into and auto win against. Free wins are massive when we are calculating overall stats.

So for example Zed Poppy might have an aggregate winrate of 59% making it the best deck in the game, but in a tournament setting where every deck is built properly to deal with aggro you can expect it to win closer to 54% and on par with control/midrange

The second thing is a control or midrange deck that wins 54% of the time is fully optimized, so Lux Jayce, Darkness, Dragon, Discard, Lurk they all share this magic number.

The third thing is if a deck is listed on mobalytics and is winning 50% of the time its essentially a tournament deck that is built poorly for ladder, I would make heavy adjustments before taking it online for a spin

Thats Lor meta stats in a nutshell, 59% for aggro is good, 54% for everything else, and 50% means adjust before taking online.

Competition Theme: Expensive Tastes

It's time we catered to a more high class clientele - so make sure you're bringing your mana for these cards!

• You must create a minion that costs more than (10)
  • While unplayable under normal circumstances, I'm sure you can figure out how to sweeten the deal for them

Neoguli is asking for some more expensive cards this week - and we're not talking about Wallet Warrior!

As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Nov 15 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sat, Nov 20 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Nov 20 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sun, Nov 21 16:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Nov 21 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Mon, Nov 22 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

Discussion Thread Rules

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https://lor.mobalytics.gg/meta-tier-list

So all the top decks are aggro or burn, and some would say that Gangplank Sejuani is midrange but they are still damaging you every turn so it sure feel agressive. So thats S tier.

A tier includes Jace Lux, Dragons, Thralls, Shadow as potential counters that play a little slower. Now is this actually representative of the games current balance or a response to all the greedy Heimer bs people were playing and instead got effectively  💩 on.

I would say likely more the second thing, like its not hard to tech in tavern keeper, and all different forms of healing that exist in the game to greatly improve your performance.

Even something like deny to crowd out burn plays are high effective. Personally I love when I see aggro decks because you literally know every play they are making before they do so any loss is a failure of deck building creativity vs a failure of play. So overall good meta, F you Heimer and learn to build decks that beat aggro? 

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Well I couln't find #id stuff at first so I think someone might have problems like me;

If you couldn't find your #id and your friend's #id here it is;

As you can see here; The golden EUW text is my #ID, when you hover over your profile picture in friend panel, it will show this screen.

So my full id would be; TitanlarınYavası EUW

Feel free to add me btw. :)

Edit: I have changed my id into TitanlarınYavaşı LoR

So a while ago I got enough coins to craft Baron Geddon, nice! I'm missing a couple of epics and legendaries, but when I opened a pack recently and saw the purple glow I got an alternative portrait for Geddon instead of a new epic. I now that they messed up with the duplicate protection for pre-orders and didn't account for the diamond portraits, but since my crafted Geddon is the base version this shouldn't happen? Or have I missed something?

So I wanted to see real quick if the archetype is as bad as all the complaints make it seem.

The answer is no its still great it's not the aggro monster it used to be and that's good because it's a combo deck.

So I just teched in shifting sands this is removal, and levels Azir, and provides aggro/blockers to devalue counter swings. 

Great card not using it for this archetype is wrong, and the second thing is chimera it devalues counter swings and prevents you from getting raced down.

So yeah Azir Irelia still a great combo deck as long as you aren't a meta slave and push it a bit into the sustained midrange space.

So quick run down, cycling referring to every time a card draws back into itself, whether it is a creature or spell.

Tutoring is when a card gives you a specific card you are looking for.

With that let's take a look at Ferros Financier and how tutoring itself is the problem more so than bandlewood specifically. Like you can run Lux Heimer instead of Heimer Jayce and you dont even miss bandle.

1. It can grab ruination (board clear)

2. It can grab reckoning (board clear)

3. It can grab "mega avalanche" (board clear)

4. It can grab progress day (oh my 2 mana tutor just drew me 3 how fun and balanced

5.  It can grab shock blast (board clear/burn)

6. It can grab glorious revolution (luuuulz this one's for you guys because tutoring for it is 100 times better than main decking because it's a free card) and you get the blocker

7. It can grab summon two 3/3s and summon two 3/2s that buff on attack, and summon two 4/4 s (hey my two mana card gave me massive free board presence)

8. It can grab single target removal like harpoon, it can basically do anything

 All of this for two mana, now how is this different from targon, A you have to spend 3 mana, and invoke cards are actually kinda bad now without Asol to make them free. 

Also having a free blocker on 2 is game changing against aggro trust me, it's why people hate love on telescope on conchologist and Shadow dude, it's like yes you get a free card, aaaaand you answer your opponents aggro play aaaaand you get to tutor what you want.

All of this leads to the fact that tutors aren't rng so much as they are a consistently game winning nuisance that is spreading across the game region by region and I think it's not stopping anytime soon.

I was trick or treating and noticed that aposteljoe did not seem to have his Forum title resolving. It just says COMMENT_COUNT_450_HS which doesn't seem like a proper Forum title.

I’m just missing sneed, Eudora and the other legendary from the last realize that I don’t feel Are essential as I play currently LK/Varden/Tavish + Geddon/Diablo/Cairne.

leveling up : beast team, Vol’Jin/Séline , Ragnaros, Anduin, Jaïna, Grull and Sylvanas In whom I see potential.

i just wonder if you guy think it’s a smart move . I do this essentially because I obtain a massive amount of coins for my already max out Mercenaries ( Antonidas, Tavish, LK, Cairne, Varden and Geddon) 

I play actually between 6800 and 7200 in Asian server. 

Though I can only name 2 mercs that do extra damage based on race, (off the top of my head), being able to prep for the possible trash fights can save some time in a bounty.

there are a couple of databases with the base info for the trash characters, but I can't find any info on which bounties they usually appear on. and they all show the level 1-30 info.

does anyone know what the system is for possible trash fight for a certain bounty?

(also, the 2 I can remember that deal specialized damage aregruul, Kurtrus Ashfallen

I think there was one that I can't remember the name of)

if there are more I can't think of, please name them