Greetings everyone I think most of you are aware how Artifact has become a meme at this point but many of us were at least interested in the game before and a little after its release. I can say I have played card games quite a bit for over 15 years of life; around half of my life. This was maybe the first card game that was heavily hyped that I knew was going to fail within 3 days of playing the game. After playing all the modes and paying close attention to card design I quickly realized that this game was going to be a disaster and I should sell my cards.

Within the first 3 days I sold most of my expensive cards I got from my packs and made my money back and more. I happened to open Axe and a few others. People were thinking it was going to be the new biggest thing and playing the market. With my card game experience I knew it was going to fail flat on the floor. Many people think it failed because Valve got greedy and charged 20 dollars and having no way to earn more packs in game unless you pay real money. But this is far from the truth and had nothing to do with why it failed.

1. People complain about RNG in Hearthstone but Artifact has the most RNG than any card game I have ever experienced. The direction your minions are attacking, the boards your minions show up on, the items listed in the store. I knew right away this was a huge problem in its design.

2. The 3 board system is a failure. The 3 boards add NOTHING to the gameplay value and is simply bloat to the game. Most games have so much RNG that 2 boards become almost irreverent. RNG wins you one board, RNG screws you one board, and you only really invest in 1 board. Majority of your resources and time is mostly invested in 1 board while another board maybe gets 1 or 2 spells played on it per game. This is bloat of the worst kind and it doesn't make a better experience for anyone.

3. The game has the most simple card design every created. Lets take a game like Magic the Gathering, 1 color is able to do the job of many roles. For example RED is not simply aggro but could have great control cards or card advantage in different forms of play. Artifact is so stupidly simple every color basically has 1 mechanic. If you want this mechanic you have to play its color. If you want to generate lots of gold you need to play black, if you want to control you need to play Blue, with you want strong heroes you need to play Red etc.

4. This game was HEAVILY advertised for draft and not competitive constructed play. There isn't even a ladder on release. The problem with this is DRAFTING IS HORRIBLE due to the 2nd reason. The game is so simple and has such simple mechanics you don't draft for deck synergy. Where as Hearthstone Arena synergy is extremely important this game has no synergy of any kind. If you see a great card YOU PICK IT. If you see an AXE you pick it 100% of the time period.  This is the core reason the game failed. It's main advertised mode has maybe the worst drafting I have ever seen.

Please contribute your ideas on your experience with Artifact.

1 Muldrotha, the Gravetide (DAR) 199
9 Forest (RIX) 196
9 Swamp (RIX) 194
4 Island (RIX) 193
1 Divination (DAR) 52
2 Divination (M19) 51
1 Zahid, Djinn of the Lamp (DAR) 76
2 Adventurous Impulse (DAR) 153
2 Llanowar Elves (DAR) 168
2 Broken Bond (DAR) 157
2 Elfhame Druid (DAR) 159
1 Pierce the Sky (DAR) 176
3 Grow from the Ashes (DAR) 164
1 Krosan Druid (DAR) 167
1 Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma (M19) 186
1 Vigilant Baloth (M19) 206
1 Aeromunculus (RNA) 152
2 Simic Guildgate (RNA) 258
1 Primordial Wurm (WAR) 174
1 Carnage Tyrant (XLN) 179
1 Bond of Revival (WAR) 80
1 Opt (DAR) 60
1 Deliver Unto Evil (WAR) 85
1 Eviscerate (DAR) 91
2 Ravenous Chupacabra (RIX) 82
1 Ob Nixilis, the Hate-Twisted (WAR) 100
1 Josu Vess, Lich Knight (DAR) 95
1 Nature's Spiral (DAR) 175
1 Cloudreader Sphinx (DAR) 47
2 Thallid Omnivore (DAR) 106
1 Davriel's Shadowfugue (WAR) 84

So far 2-0 with it in casual play.

So much fun actually making a deck and then playing it. The idea is to ramp as much as possible and then play your big minions. When your graveyard has a few dead key minions you can play:

1 Bond of Revival (WAR) 80

1 Muldrotha, the Gravetide (DAR) 199

We will see how it goes. Unsure if I can keep up against aggro but its still fun even if I loose.

This guy https://outof.cards/members/pcjco posted over 100 decks on ONE DAY and all of them DO NOT HAVE A F***ING GUIDE.

I hated this so much on hearthpwn, just spamming decks and the endless number of dupe decks without any description.

PLEASE prevent this early enough, it's easy to identify 100% identical decks. Stop the dupe decks and remove decks that have no description / guide.

Quality > Quantity

Edit: Just saw that the decks this guy posted are deck recipes, but still, the message keeps the same.
No description is a no go, maybe just collect them in a single forums post.

Here is another guy https://outof.cards/members/octrange with 12 decks on the same day. No descriptions, no guides. Just delete them, please.

You can see how the database is already blown up with such spam:

Decks with guides: https://outof.cards/hearthstone/decks/?has_guide=2 - 12 pages

Decks with no guides https://outof.cards/hearthstone/decks/?page=31&has_guide=3 - 31 pages

I just logged in on EU to get my daily, and I had a full quest log. I'm almost certain I was up to date with my log, and that I just got 3 quests at once today. 

Can anyone confirm/deny this, please? 

Something I completely forgot about until today: Zayle, Shadow Cloak!  I fully expected this to be part of the reveals when they started, and then after they all came out I forgot about it.  But that should also means Zayle can't be found in the packs, therefore, you won't waste a legendary pull on a regular Cloak, only to dust it later after finishing the solo content.

I know not much has been revealed on Zayle, other than it's a Whizbang-type of card that can give you one of five possible decks.  I assume these decks are going to be from the five EVIL classes, and I also assume they won't be the same deck recipes that Whizbang is giving us.  I mainly say this because if they are, what's the point?  Then we're just playing Zayle over Whizbang because you specifically want to play one of those five classes and not the other four.  Yes, Whizbang would change over time where Zayle may not, so using the new RoS deck recipes could be fine, but again it seems redundant.

Anyway, interested to hear your thoughts on what the Zayle decks could be like.  It would be crazy if they were themed more after the final bosses in the solo mission wings, but that could be too OP!  Feel like if that was the case they'd have to be toned down just a bit to be fair.

This thread is for anyone who has over 30 legendaries and tries to have fun with a full Legendary deck.

Here, you can share your decks, list some of the legendary cards remaining in collection (if you want any help in deckubuilding) and tell us something about your strategy and personal experience.

I'll start with my Legendary Hunter, here's the code:

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A total MVP of this deck (except Reno ofc) is Emeriss. When the game goes into late turns, doubling your powerful legendaries' Attack and Health made me a winner 100% of the time. In case of aggro, it often ended up badly, but there were some cases when my curve was perfect, my Barnes summoned a Legendary with a game-swinging effect and my Tinkmaster Overspark knew what he's doing.

My question is - Should I replace Genn with Justicar Trueheart? And do you think putting Jepetto Joybuzz here is a good idea?

Discussion officialy opened. THIS THREAD WILL BE LEGENDARY!

Not sure if this is intended or not but...

See my post made 5 minutes ago in this thread for instance: https://outof.cards/forums/hearthstone/card-discussion/394-wild-what-about-valanyr

I quoted someone who mentioned two cards Val'anyr and Rummaging Kobold. If I hover over both cards in their post, it shows both of them. 

If I hover over either card in my own post (in which I quoted their post) it doesn't show them.

Hey all, one thing that bugged me with our last stomping ground at Hearthpwn was the inability to properly label some of my decks with their proper, or less known, deck types. If they weren't listed in the list we had for that class then we just had to choose "Unknown". However, with Out of Cards I see that now there isn't an Unknown option when crafting decks (unless I'm mistaken, which is entirely possible) so I have to just select the deck description label that most resembles my actual deck.

Is there a possibility to create custom deck labels or expand the list of available deck creation labels?

Neutral:

Druid:

Hunter:

Mage:

Paladin

Priest:

Rogue:

 Shaman:

 Warlock:

 Warrior:

Maybe not a good title, but a good request. Let's say I wanted to check a deck. On Hearthpwn, at first sight, I saw it. However, at OutOfCards, there is none of it. Could you devs/staff add it? As a suggestion, you can add under the card-list.

If this request was mentioned before, and you devs/staff are working on it, please disregard my request because I couldn't find any topic regarding this request.

Next Arena rotation will happen in less than a week. On June 3rd to be exact!

(source)

New drafting pool will contain these sets:

• Basic
• Classic
• Goblins vs. Gnomes
• The Grand Tournament
• Karazhan
• The Boomsday Project
• Rise of Shadows

Free Arena Ticket for Unfinished Run

Since the old sets are rotating, the "old" decks should get retired which means we should get an arena ticket for our unfinished run.

Now keep in mind, this is the first time such rotation happens, so we dont know exactly if the old decks will get retired for sure and/or if we get the Arena Ticket for unfinished run. Logic dictates that it should be yes on both accounts, but until next week, we cannot be 100% sure, so keep that in mind!

Side note: even tho the rotation happens in the middle of the season and many of you might not need/want more ROS packs, it is still cheaper dust per gold value than if you bought packs in a shop for 100g, so id recommend doing it either way.

/edit: Blizzard confirmed that we will be getting a Free Arena Ticket for unfinished run this time around. There could be like 1% chance it is cause of the bug with the countdown, so still not 100% it will happen next time around, but we will have to see :) Go start your runs ppl!

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Do you think it is worth to craft it?

Mainly for Wild Even Paladin (as a sort of anti-meta deck, trying to mimic the role of Even Warlock and/or Even Shaman in some way), but not exclusively that.

Ebon Dragonsmith is also a card btw. It generates a neat (1) mana discount between itself and the weapon.

June has arrived and so have more updates to Out of Cards!

New Features

• Deck Listings Redone
  • You can now sort the columns on the deck listing page.
  • Added a filter for the patch a deck was added in.
  • The class filter now has a nice image interface and you can select multiple classes to sort by.
  • Mobile users will be able to see some additional data that was hidden.
  • Mobile users will be able to properly make use of the filters.
  • You can now filter for Standard vs Wild Decks
    • Do note that decks created before today are all currently marked as Standard. We will issue a hotfix to flag wild decks correctly.
    • If you want to update your deck before we get that fix out, you can resave the cards for the deck by clicking on "Edit Cards" on the deck page and it will gain the correct flagging.
• Homepage Support Us
  • A new box is at the bottom of the sidebar with easy links to accessing how you can support the site.
  • As the sidebar gets more information added to it, this information will move to our site footer.

Changes

• Navigation Revamp
  • The navigation on mobile now supports options for account management, profile, and sign out.
  • Additional options have been added to each of the drop downs to make finding content easier.
  • Decks now has dropdown options. They will take you to the top decks, newest decks, deck guides, and dedicated links for class-specific decks.
• Deck Pages
  • Now state if a deck is Standard or Wild under the Format box.
  • A placeholder for "Your Cost" has been added. We don't have an exact timeline for the feature but we wanted to make sure people know it is coming and that they can expect it.

Bug Fixes

• All staff should now have blue usernames.

I've loved most of the villain heroes for the heist. Some of them are far and away the best for their class. In particular, Ol' Barkeye, who's just a lot of fun and a great concept, and Squeamlish, who is so cute and endearing, she doesn't even seem like a villain at all, just mislead by EVIL.

I really wish that the real reward for beating all chapters on heroic would have been to pick one of the heroes to use in other modes. Or, better yet, beat every chapter on heroic with a hero and keep them. That would be amazing!

Anybody else have favorites so far?

EDIT: Just fought Bonepaw with Squeamlish. He did his, "The bad guys are here!" intro and Squea, in a confused, somewhat hurt voice, responded with, "Me am not... bad guy..." :(

I have been stuck at Rank 8/7 for the past month and it is killing me.  As much as I like to play Bomb Warrior and Tempo Rogue, I'm trying to get my golden Hunter hero.

I was able to grind up to 10 with Mid-Range Hunter, then got stuck.  Since then I have been playing the hell out of Mech Hunter.  But I am still getting stuck at Rank 7/8.  And here is where I am wondering about the tech in my deck:  I've been using Boommaster Flark but I do not find him to be that useful.  Whenever I drop him, Flark gets taken out quickly, as he should.  But I find myself trying to find ways to detonate the Goblin Bombs he creates.  The only consistency I have found is by dropping the Venomizer + Missile Launcher combo for a board wipe.  Has anyone else been able to make use of this card?

Hi all... 

 I know. Its a little bit of a clickbait title isn't it? But I'm of the opinion that sharing decks with people is a good thing.

 I'm not talking about those decks that become Behemoths in the field. Those Page One Monsters that everyone plays because "Day One Legend In 25 games! EZ!!". Nope. Not those.

Dig a little deeper and you find some real gems. Look for a Random card in your Collection that appears terrible (Arena Treasure Chest for instance) and search for a deck built around it. In the depths of the Internet there are many and varied ones that will appear.

 This is the beauty of 'Netdecking'. Finding those crazy decks that might just work out for you because everyone else is playing those Page One Monsters. 

 Maybe it's just me. But that's the whole point of the Internet isn't it? To share ideas? 

 When I started playing MtG around '95 or so my friends and I had to rely on word of mouth and Magazine Articles for the newest and baddest decks out there. Now it's easy.

 So I implore you all, just because someone says Netdeck it should not be a bad thing. On the contrary, let's embrace it. 

• Tell us what you love about the site.

I think Chimera did a really nice job on those class guides. Thank you for Flux and friends for saving the Hearthpwn community (Thank you!).

• Give us details on the things you hate.

Spacing is awkward on card pages. There is a lot of dead space to the right of the card. Card stats including cost, attack, and health should not be given such a prominent spot on the page and I don't like the shape of the slanted boxes (sorry) but I do wish more the corners were rounded.

• Think you have an idea to make something better? Tell us!

I believe a front card gallery is a better fit for this website compared to a list of cards. Flux said, "Hearthstone is a game, and games are meant to be fun. We want to encourage and spread fun to help make the Hearthstone community more inviting.” While a line by line list of card statistics might be useful, I believe presenting the cards in their original raw format is better because Hearthstone compacts a lot of information and presents it with nice/beautiful artwork in a small area of space. If you want to present the statics and facts of the card then let the user make that choice by placing the cursor over it (let the info popup) or let the user click on the card for info. Let (me) the user pursue more information. It’s like too much information on a first date.

I just realized that Hearthpwn had three options "Visual," "Images," and "Listing" when looking at minions. You have "listing." Hearthpwn "Visuals" suck so forget that. And "Images" is what I am requesting.

Whatever you guys end up doing I hope you continue to pursue your "majestic playfulness" and serve the Hearthstone community.

• Provide us with new ideas that you'd like to see us implement to make HearthStation even better.

A search bar on the front page of the website.

On individual card pages, please flip "Rate This Card" and "Top Decks."

More icons/pictures to click on for links or making selections! (like Hearthpwn)

Only on April 1st, every time I click on anything there should be Fireworks.

And by big I don't mean actual Big Rogue, but more along the lines of N'Zoth/Deathrattle Rogue or Jade Rogue.

Warriors, priests, and mages frequently get to spin the class identity/deck type wheel and completely change their playstyle, while rogue is kept stagnant for the longest time (tempo, combo, miracle).

#controlroguelivesmatter

Hi there, plz add a light color scheme to the website. Also, have you thought of open sourcing the UI of the website? I'm sure a lot of programmers love hearthstone and will be happy to help. 

I always figure it's best to ask. :-)

New forum, new community and new starts; always a good thing.

I wondered if there was any openings for new moderators on these forums - I just want to help.
I have been a member of the HS and MtG community for a very long time and (as a web developer / software engineer), have some skills and experience (running and moderating other sites), so wanted to offer my services if there is an opportunity there.

Thanks in advance :-)
Scorpy

So far expansion has been fun as hell. Conjurer's Calling has been game busting so far. Turn 5 Khadgar into a Mountain Giant for a board of 4 7/8's with taunt has been so satisfying.

Heyho!

I found the filter options as well as the possibility to rank the filtered list by Creation Date, Rating and so on, which you used in the Deck-Tab on Hearthpwn quite essential. Whenever I got an off meta legendary, I used that section to get inspiration about a deck I could build around that card.

It'd be lovely to see such a feature here, since this will from now on be my go-to page for all Hearthstone related stuff!

Thank's and best!!

Title.

For me, it's been fairly great! I mean, the grind is a hassle and some matchups get really annoying and tedious, but I am managing to climb really well. 

I took a really long break from HS and it's pretty fun getting back into it for the last couple months.

Anyway enough rambling, are you guys enjoying this season - and also, where do you rank currently in ladder? :)

Not that I have anything against unicorns . . .

Good luck to the moderators with the new site! Hope it will one day be a worthy successor to the previous site, cheers!