I did it with a meta deck like a "serious good" player.

Am I just like Majin now?

Can I join the cool kids club because I piloted a broken meta deck with a possitive winrate to beat all the other broken decks?

I even won the mirror or into Jayce Lux.

Long and short of it I got sweaty and tried hard for the first time ever since I started LOR

And I did it from gold in 2 - 4 hour play sessions.

That means I won what 70% of games?

But with elites that ain't hard so who cares.

But at the end of the day I guess the haters were wrong this meme king can also meta king.

Sorry just built different.

Yep doesn't matter how much time passes now everyone will know a dirty casual hit masters like it was nothing at all...or maybe I'm secretly decent who knows. Maybe it's both I'm simultaneously the worst and also the best?

I can live with that the worst top 10,000 player that ever memed in lor.

-----edit----

I was wrong on average each server has 5,000 masters players making me one of the top 5,000 LOR players in North America.

God don't tell Redit they'll have an aneurysm, they hate my care free, casual but competitive attitude.  They thought I couldn't do it, nah you gotta try hard and use a deck tracker, and spend money on the game.

Nope top 5,000 free to play, full on casual.

Elites are very good right now they are the best aggro deck.

And Jayce is the best control deck.

All right were done let's go home guys.

Lor has the largest cardpool in its history accessible only for the next 30 days.

But lets see if we can make immortal kegs work.

Instead of you know actually making decks that actually do things.

I guess this is what it means to be spoiled for choice and choosing nothing.

But I'll tell you guys I don't forget a single deck and I can tell you they all have their merits.

Did bandle die because elites got 1 card?

No

Did noxious die because P and Z got draw?

No

Did every single pre-built archetype die for no reason?

No

The reality is I'm seeing an unprecedented amount of brewing laziness while everyone just waits for rotation to tell them what to play.

You know what's better then immortal kegs and was actual a real deck at one point?

Shadow isles bilgewater ping control or kegs thresh gangplank.

Why not try building a non dumb deck with them?

I dont know when everyone got so bad at the game honestly, where's mogwai and swim when you need them.

I love Lor probably more than most people.

So if I see someone googling a list to counter mine I don't get salty I feel over joyed.

Like I bothered them so much winning with my memes that they were like...God better counter this pile of trash fast!

Thank you LOR community for the amount of respect and faith you put in me.

Cuz I don't get salty, but I wonder can you say the same ;)

https://mobalytics.gg/blog/dev-blog-the-future-of-our-lor-meta-stats/

For those that don't know last year mobalytics made the call that it could no longer responsible support statistics tracking for legends of runeterra.

It's all in the dev blog here but basically - the spread is too large to cover and the sample sizes are too small.

So deck diversity, plus unstable metas, plus games being played in the thousands vs the tens of thousands.

Why does this matter?

Well the statistical spread on decks actually massively shifts based on the smaller hosting websites we have available today.

Example go to mastering runeterra and you look at 3000 games of Jax played and it will be sub 50% so okay terrible deck.

But I go to runeterra ar and it says 2,000 Jax games played at 57% winrate basically saying it's an amazing deck this patch maybe because it outscales elites?

The truth is nobody knows the spreads are too wide, the sample sizes too small, and there are too many variables to know for sure.

Anyone saying otherwise is kind of stuck up their own butt.

So that brings us to this patch, we know that jayce is good, we know that elites are good.

Beyond that we have no idea, nobody is willing to play the lower tier lists enough to get reliable data, or brew counters for a concrete two deck meta that will last a month.

So maybe Mobalytics was right, stats for LOR are kinda garbage in 2023 and knowing that empowers you to play your own lists and search for your own solutions.

A new card, Nimrod, has been revealed for Marvel Snap!

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Brewing is a lot like sales or marketing.

It's learning about the power of losing.

Through loss you get better.

You brew better, your decks perform better.

You might even start ruffling a few feathers.

Not because they are good players but because they haven't embraced the power of losing.

Good brewers, people like Mogwai they wouldn't just upload a list after it popped into their head.

They would pressure cook that **** till they had something that was actually good.

So I guess my message to the LOR community right now is do better...not by playing the strongest hand but learning how to lose.

I've mentioned this before but there's a big difference between meming and being off meta.

Mogwai, Swim these guys understood that it's okay to play unique lists but only if they can beat what's popular.

So right now that's two things, one is jayce, and one is elites.

Pick one if you can't beat either your deck essentially shouldn't exist in its current form.

So how do you build good off meta brews?

Well two things play the matchup and see if you can climb, two if you find that intimidating then play the matchup with a friend.

As soon as you can start winning with your trash vs their treasure you have an off meta brew.

If you can't its a meme...sorry.

Hey fam, I'm creating this thread as a spot for tips, tricks, and comps for tackling a specific PvE bounty. 

If there's a better space for this kind of thing, let me know. 

An example, Lord Banehollow's crew have Holy weakness, so bring your holy damage to finish them off. 

Second example: I'm stuck on Rend Blackhand. What did you do against a boss that can deal 200 damage in one shot? 

Competition Theme: Naxx Out?

Some felt a bit disappointed that Return to Naxxramas didn't have that much representation from actual Naxxramas in it. Let's do something about that.

• You must make a card out of the mobs, bosses, or locations from Naxxramas.
  • Whether that's taking something that's currently unrepresented in constructed Hearthstone or simply giving one of the bosses a better card for the modern-day environment, is entirely up to you.

BloodMefist wants us to return to Naxxramas (no, not the recent mini-set) to make some cards out of what we can find there. Get out here, Purator, this for things that were actually in Naxxramas.

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Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Feb 20 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sat, Feb 25 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Feb 25 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sun, Feb 26 16:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Feb 26 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Mon, Feb 27 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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I've talked quite a bit on many platforms how the sudden mainstream success of both yetis and Leona surprised me quite a bit.

But the weirdness doesn't stop there:

Jayce Lux at 55% this ain't no isolated incident we are talking 500 games in the last 3 days consistent winrate with good old fashioned I'm a firing my Lazar!

Ziggs Thaliyah at 55% with 1500 games played. Oh boy and for you arsenal fans it is in fact running one copy. 

I will mention it again but I mentioned on reddit that Annie ezreal was one of the top new lists and it is once again holding down 55%

Plunder back to 55% so great for thr gangplank lovers

You know what's down?

Nora cuz **** Nora and every single player that thought Nora decks where the meta and the future.

Sorry bit of a pet peave but sometimes you can't help but be right.

Overall even what 2, 3 weeks into this latest balance patch meta we are seeing huge moves on the tierlists, so I think calling this meta jello was the right call. It keeps on jiggling.

So we are getting 10 new variety cards coming soon to LOR and about a month to play around with them in our massive card pool.

Will it be removal, tribal support, archetype support, who knows but any of that would be awesome.

On the less exciting note they are finally gonna start "deleting" rotating cards in LOR in a month with the next expansion:

1. Good news is stable metas with top decks for those that like climbing

2. Bad news for the first time ever you will not have free acess to the complete card pool in LOR for deck crafting

Just to give a detailed account of what this means, Jayce for example exists in two of the top control decks in jayce Lux, and jayce heimer.

If he gets rotated that would free up room potentially for other control archetypes to exist.

Bad news is Lux is no longer playable in the meta.

So I know for me I'm in wait and see mode, new variety cards will be awesome, rotation might just break the game in a dozen ways we will see.

Since the big site update a couple of months ago, EVERY pageload is accompanied with a very annoying lagging issue in mobile browsers.

This always results in misclicks and very often causes you to navigate to a page you did not wanted to go to. Other times when the rich text editor is nearby an unexpected BBCode button gets misclicked.

Why has this lagging issue lasting several months not been acknowledged or fixed yet? Are bug reporters being ghosted on OoC now? Very frustrating! 

Today I found this forum and feel like I really need to talk about my two pasions

"Pasta" and "Milanesa Napolitana con Papas Fritas"

Pasta is really well known and I hthink some spaghettis with mushroom stew and cheese is just amazing.

On the other hand we have the Milanesa. It is something really popular where I used to live. You can find its recipe here

https://www.lanacion.com.ar/recetas/platos-de-comida-principal/milanesitas-tentadoras-napolitanas-nid12042014/

It is in spanish, but can be translated with help of google.

I feel this is just amazing and evven looks really tempting. You can also fry some eggs and put them on the milanesa or the french fries and just be amazed.

Probably this is not really healthy, but damn it is good.

Title says it all. Well, in case you haven't heard of, a developer called Matt London wrote a post on Twitter, indicating that Blizzard is planning to bring the best experience for Wild format.

I wonder what's going to happen but unless they look into these issues below, I'm not holding my breath. These are my takes and I would like to hear your thoughts as well:

General

• The cost of cards shouldn't be reduced below 1 Mana, no matter what. Mana cheat went way overboard that a hard rule must be applied. That means cards like Emperor Thaurissan and Insight can reduce the cost down to 1 Mana, similar to how Arcane Luminary functions. This rule will keep Pillager Rogues and Secret Mages to not spam 0-Cost cards.
• If necessary, a card should have alternative/different variant for Wild format. For example, Contract Conjurer might be OK in Standard but not so much for Wild.
• A graveyard system must be implemented so Big Priests can't resurrect same minion over and over again. Right now, if Blood of G'huun dies once, you can play 2xResurrect cards right away. Here, I propose you can play Resurrect only once if G'Huun died once. This rule will also affect N'Zoth cards and similar ones, to a degree.

Druid

• Play Floop's Glorious Gloop to gain infinite mana, if utilized well. How about a hard cap, which you can gain up to 10 Mana Crystals, even if you have Guff Hero card played? Like, you have gained 9 Mana and spent them, then 2 minions killed but only one is granted to you, not two. It also shouldn't stack with cards such as Solar Eclipse.
• Wildheart Guff should have 15 Mana Crystals at max, not 20.

Mage

• Kirin Tor Mage cries in the corner because Kabal Lackey and Anonymous Informant are much better. These cards should reduce the cost of secret to 1 Mana, not zero. While at it, their cost should be upped by 1 Mana.
• Kabal Crystal Runner should reduce her cost by 1, not 2.
• Contract Conjurer should cost 1 less for each secret controlled. Maybe make him 7 Mana, perhaps?

Priest

• New graveyard system, please look above.
• Some resurrect cards Big Priests use should have mana cost raised by one. Candidates are; Resurrect+Eternal Servitude.
• Shadow Essence should summon 3/3 or 4/4 minion, not 5/5.
• Illuminate should cost 1 Mana and reduce the cost of spell by 2, not 3.
• Radiant Elemental limits design for future Priest cards, which has proven pretty much with Mind Sear. This card belongs to Ungoro expansion and it's Elemental. Thus, I propose the following change: "Your Elementals have +1 Health" which looks thematically fitting.

Rogue

• Maybe not a problem right now but either increase the condition for The Caverns Below or change its reward to set minions to 3/3 instead of 5/5.
• Swordfish should either have 2 durability or grant +1 Attack.
• Cutlass Courier has very good stats for his ability if compared with similar cards. Reducing his stats to 1/4 looks like a right balance choice.
• Scabbs Cutterbutter should be...
  • 5 Mana, rest is same.
  • 4 Mana, reduction is 2.
  • 3 Mana, reduction is 1.

Shaman

• Splitting Axe converted into a Deathrattle card rather than Battlecry one prevents the insta-snowball effect.
• Totemic Might and Totemic Surge should cost 1 Mana.
• Why are Thing from Below and Gigantotem same cards? To differentiate, I suggest Thing from Below reading "Cost 1 less for each Totem you control." 

That's all what I can think of. Let me hear your thoughts. With the insight shared from Blizzard, I really look forward to see Wild format grow even better.

A new Free Rogue Hero, Mighty Maiev, has been revealed!

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Wanted to share an interesting build created by @ketronome using Tacter's guide building platform.

I hope this helps some of you and if you try it and it works, please feel free to comment and let know how it went for you!

HOW TO PLAY

T1: Sunspot / Pass.
T2: Morbius OR Colleen Wing (discarding Swarm or Wolverine).
T3: Lady Sif (discarding Apocalypse) OR Nakia (ideally buffing Swarm, MODOK or Apocalypse. OR Morbius + Sunspot.
T4: Dracula OR Morbius + Colleen Wing.
T5: MODOK.
T6: America Chavez + all 0-cost Swarms, ensuring Dracula discards Apocalypse.

Depending on how some people are feeling on a giving day LOR "sucks" right now.

There's a lot of salt, a lot of hate, on reddit specifically.

People don't know what decks to play, and as soon as they find a list it's invalidated by another.

Oh man these midrange lists sure are strong, nevermind ryze is toxic combo is too good, how about them Swarm decks? Then we go back to midrange again and the circle continues.

Meanwhile the deck brewers are doing crazy **** and winning games.

We have a new competitive yeti list on mastering runeterra with Darius, we have daybreak at top of S tier on mobalytics.

The reality is that this meta is like jello, it keeps changing shape and nobody knows what's going to happen.

To me that's exciting.

It's dynamic, it's moving, it's constantly changing, a world where anything is possible.

But to the salt lords who have to keep their edge because it's their career or livelihood or their claim to fame this meta is cancer.

They say one deck is top tier, and next week it's not. They say Nora is everywhere then Nora drops 5%. They say FTR doesn't exist and then FTR hits 55%.

This truly is the card game of champions right now and I'm going to enjoy every drop of it till rotation hits.

Let the salt lords cry, and the hardcores get mad, I'm having a blast.

Competition Theme: Hail Hydra

The Year of the Hydra came with some cool mechanics. What would happen if we put them together?

• You must make a card that utilizes at least two of the follow mechanics on the same card:
  
  • Colossal
  • Dredge
  • Naga Synergy
  • "Sunken" Cards
  • Infuse
  • Locations
  • "Suspicious" Cards
  • Reborn
  • Undead Synergy
  • Manathirst
• It is also important to note that merely just being a Naga or Undead does not count as synergy for the purposes of the competition.

The year of the Hydra is coming to an end, and Demon wants us to celebrate the year by combining its mechanics together.

As always, we can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Feb 13 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sat, Feb 18 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Feb 18 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sun, Feb 19 16:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Feb 19 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Mon, Feb 20 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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A set of new achievements popped up with the miniset.
Avalon, we miss your guides ! :)

I've been on out of cards for a long time.

I've built countless decks in my spare time many of whom I bring back time and time again each time getting more refined and playable.

But most people brew in LOR to fire and forget.

Oh I tried that it didn't work rage quit now time to counter brew what I just faced.

You see that's not going to work against someone who has miles on their engine because they just instantly go to their backlog of decks and pull out something else.

Instead the solution should be simple, build to last, build to succeed and build to get better at the game.

A new Free Mage Hero, Saraad, has been revealed!

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Today we are going to start the second season of the WCDC (weekly card design competition), and I wanted to share some of the lessons I learned about designing cards from the first season. Hopefully this list is useful to you, and I don't end up wasting my time writing this.

1. Keep it Simple, Stupid! K.I.S.S. or M.A.Y.A. (Most advanced, yet acceptable) are good acronyms to keep in mind when designing cards. You don't want your card to be super bland and boring, but if it is too different and unique then people won't be able to connect with it. You want your card to be as interesting and different as possible while still being within the realm of possibility. Don't try to think of something brand new, try to think of a new spin you can put on an existing thing.
2. Don't make too many cards. Sometimes people in the discussion thread create multiple cards and ask which one is best, and while this may seem like a good idea it usually isn't. All of your feedback will be split up and it will be hard to decide on which card is better. Just submit one card and if people don't like it then you whip out your second card. Don't bring out both cards at the same time and ask people to choose. 
3. Presentation matters. This is both concerning art, and the text on your card. Make sure the art fits Hearthstone's theme and flavor. I know finding art sucks, but it is worth the trouble. Also make sure you have proper punctuation, capitalization, and wording on your card. You could come up with the most creative and innovative card in the world, but if you don't present it in a proper way then it won't get very many stars.
4. The Customer is always right. If you want your card to do well, you should cater it to your audience. You may think your card is super cool and creative, but if nobody else agrees then your card will do poorly. You shouldn't make every change that people suggest, but you also shouldn't try too hard to defend your card when nobody agrees with you.
5. Check the submissions before submitting. I can recall a handful of times when multiple people made cards with the same art/ability/concept/or whatever, and they never did very well. Your idea has to be unique if you want people to vote high, so check to make sure nobody else has made the same card as you before you submit.
6. PUT YOUR CARD IN THE DISCUSSION THREAD BEFORE SUBMITTING! This is the most important thing you could do. Other people are smarter than you and might catch mistakes in your card that you didn't notice. I don't think a card submitted within the first 24 hours has ever made it to the finalists, let alone won. You have roughly 4 days to get feedback and make adjustments, use that time well. You don't get anything for being the first person to submit your card.

That is my list of lessons I learned from season 1, hopefully this stuff wasn't too obvious. If you have any advice you would like to share I would love to hear it. One thing in particular that I am interested in knowing is your opinion on the description box, and what kind of thing you write in it. Sometimes I would write about the practical uses of my card and how it might be played. Other times I would talk about the design process of my card and how it got to where it is. And sometimes I would just write flavor text. What do you think the best thing to put in the description box is? And does it even matter, or am I over-thinking it?

Dude it's a meme deck...like I dont even know what to say.

Am I that strong that my junk needs hard counter brews for me to be stopped?

Wait isn't that basically the same as Majin?

Am I the meme Majin or Swim 2.0?

I might be :)

Like if you're losing to mono freijord ramp with a splash of demacia don't feel bad.

Well maybe feel a little bad but you don't need to whip put meta tenticles to feel better about yourself.

I've been building decks for yeeeeears.

Of course my memes are almost as good as meta.

It comes with practice don't feel bad about it.

Like don't listen to streamers "here's the number 1 deck to climb to diamond with"

Dude the number of times I've climbed with complete dokey that I built myself...would be every time because I don't play meta lists.

So if I' diamond with garbage I'm basically omega masters.

Of course my memes are strong.

A new Free Warrior Hero, Varian Wrynn, has been revealed!

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