Sometimes you're just not going to win games.

Card games are R and G based so if an opponent spends 7 mana to generate 3 random spells and find the exact 3 spells they need to win the game it happens. What can you do.

Mogwai used to complain about it, it's in all card games, no point getting worked up about it.

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So everyone told me this is a bad deck for this meta. So you know nifty always one to ryse to the challenge.

Let's take the worst meta deck and make it the best meta deck.

Because I can't stop winning at 20 life.

How do you beat tripple stacked stuns and bounces.

It's like spellshield or bust basically, or rite of negation.

Here is the list, again I'm not a genius because I remembered palm existed.

But I will say sometimes the simplest answer is often the right one and the foolish never find them.

If your opponent is about to pull off the Rivendare, Warrider combo, let them do it! I mean, sure, if they were a bad sport, spamming emotes or unnecessarily delaying the kill, then feel free to concede. But I'm trying to get the achievement, and people keep conceding literally seconds before I can do it. Just let me have this!

So you look at one of my decks and you think ho ho! I'm gonna counter that guy so hard and teach him a lesson.

Then I switch archetypes and your nexus explodes where is the sense there?

Where is the logic?

Where is the skill?

I have said it before and I will say it again don't brew against me brew against the meta.

This is why your decks are one hit wonders that literally don't draw breath while my stuff last forever.

It just goes in the back pocket tillI I re tweek and whup your butt again.

You cant counter brew me in a meta this diverse you just can't stop trying.

Just play your game your way and maybe just maybe you'll actually beat me.

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We're setting our sights on some locations - ones that many would say are quite...legendary.

• You must make a Legendary location card.

Demonxz95 is on a global trek in search of a place of mystery, once said to be truly a legendary location. Help them find it!

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https://observablehq.com/@drisoth/4-2

So instead of discussing the meat of the complaints listed in this post which is fairly mundane I want to go one level deeper.

Why are many pro LOR players frustrated right now and why inversely is a casual like me playing better then I ever have before.

Quite frankly and I've spoken a bit about this before it comes down to two things card diversity and deck diversity.

As much as I joke about LOR being a two deck meta I actually don't play a single list strictly from the tiers I always make adjustments because I find that the online decks are teched too hard in certain directions and actually don't ladder terrible well in certain cases.

That would explain some frustration right there, wait why is this deck that on paper based on my years of playing this game underpeforming to my expectations.

The example given in Ryze, Ryze is a deck that does one thing and one thing only and thats stun spam.

As soon as the aggro decks started to catch up Ryze dropped from a 10% playrate to a 4% playrate.

Now did these pro players adapt and re-adjust the deck? Maybe add more followers or try different colors...not really no.

They had already satisfied themselves with creating the "best" version of the deck and just assumed their losses were the result of the game and not their ridged thought processes.

I'll say it before and I'll say it again the card pool in LOR is the largest it had ever been in the history of the game.

Those who utilize this to their advantage will succeed and those who can't will get frustrated. Right now Majin Bae the best LOR player and I share the same rank.

We are bottom of masters, not because I'm as good as him but because I neutralized our skill difference with deck diversity and card diversity.

Now when rotation hits I'm ****** but right now for this next month I'm pro and the pros are noobs.

So remember earlier when I was saying that there was a big statistical discrepancy on the performance of Jax across websites?

Well turns out in this instance I was right cuz that deck performs literally just fine thanks in large part to the decline of Ryze in the face of the overperforming Demacia.

As always I take these meta lists and I basically boil them down to simpler ratios because I trust in my muliganing skills to avoid duplicates.

CUDACAYBAIAQIAIKAEDAEHABAYGAQAQGAADBCBYGAECAQCILBQMCEAABAEDACFY

Again here's my version of the list I prioritize more on board presence with the likes of the 3 drop because being on board is everything right now.

So yeah mastering runeterra has updated it to a 55% winrate in the last 3 days making it a strong anti meta pick as I suggested that it probably was.

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I did it with a meta deck like a "serious good" player.

Am I just like Majin now?

Can I join the cool kids club because I piloted a broken meta deck with a possitive winrate to beat all the other broken decks?

I even won the mirror or into Jayce Lux.

Long and short of it I got sweaty and tried hard for the first time ever since I started LOR

And I did it from gold in 2 - 4 hour play sessions.

That means I won what 70% of games?

But with elites that ain't hard so who cares.

But at the end of the day I guess the haters were wrong this meme king can also meta king.

Sorry just built different.

Yep doesn't matter how much time passes now everyone will know a dirty casual hit masters like it was nothing at all...or maybe I'm secretly decent who knows. Maybe it's both I'm simultaneously the worst and also the best?

I can live with that the worst top 10,000 player that ever memed in lor.

-----edit----

I was wrong on average each server has 5,000 masters players making me one of the top 5,000 LOR players in North America.

God don't tell Redit they'll have an aneurysm, they hate my care free, casual but competitive attitude.  They thought I couldn't do it, nah you gotta try hard and use a deck tracker, and spend money on the game.

Nope top 5,000 free to play, full on casual.

Elites are very good right now they are the best aggro deck.

And Jayce is the best control deck.

All right were done let's go home guys.

Lor has the largest cardpool in its history accessible only for the next 30 days.

But lets see if we can make immortal kegs work.

Instead of you know actually making decks that actually do things.

I guess this is what it means to be spoiled for choice and choosing nothing.

But I'll tell you guys I don't forget a single deck and I can tell you they all have their merits.

Did bandle die because elites got 1 card?

No

Did noxious die because P and Z got draw?

No

Did every single pre-built archetype die for no reason?

No

The reality is I'm seeing an unprecedented amount of brewing laziness while everyone just waits for rotation to tell them what to play.

You know what's better then immortal kegs and was actual a real deck at one point?

Shadow isles bilgewater ping control or kegs thresh gangplank.

Why not try building a non dumb deck with them?

I dont know when everyone got so bad at the game honestly, where's mogwai and swim when you need them.

I love Lor probably more than most people.

So if I see someone googling a list to counter mine I don't get salty I feel over joyed.

Like I bothered them so much winning with my memes that they were like...God better counter this pile of trash fast!

Thank you LOR community for the amount of respect and faith you put in me.

Cuz I don't get salty, but I wonder can you say the same ;)

https://mobalytics.gg/blog/dev-blog-the-future-of-our-lor-meta-stats/

For those that don't know last year mobalytics made the call that it could no longer responsible support statistics tracking for legends of runeterra.

It's all in the dev blog here but basically - the spread is too large to cover and the sample sizes are too small.

So deck diversity, plus unstable metas, plus games being played in the thousands vs the tens of thousands.

Why does this matter?

Well the statistical spread on decks actually massively shifts based on the smaller hosting websites we have available today.

Example go to mastering runeterra and you look at 3000 games of Jax played and it will be sub 50% so okay terrible deck.

But I go to runeterra ar and it says 2,000 Jax games played at 57% winrate basically saying it's an amazing deck this patch maybe because it outscales elites?

The truth is nobody knows the spreads are too wide, the sample sizes too small, and there are too many variables to know for sure.

Anyone saying otherwise is kind of stuck up their own butt.

So that brings us to this patch, we know that jayce is good, we know that elites are good.

Beyond that we have no idea, nobody is willing to play the lower tier lists enough to get reliable data, or brew counters for a concrete two deck meta that will last a month.

So maybe Mobalytics was right, stats for LOR are kinda garbage in 2023 and knowing that empowers you to play your own lists and search for your own solutions.

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Brewing is a lot like sales or marketing.

It's learning about the power of losing.

Through loss you get better.

You brew better, your decks perform better.

You might even start ruffling a few feathers.

Not because they are good players but because they haven't embraced the power of losing.

Good brewers, people like Mogwai they wouldn't just upload a list after it popped into their head.

They would pressure cook that **** till they had something that was actually good.

So I guess my message to the LOR community right now is do better...not by playing the strongest hand but learning how to lose.

I've mentioned this before but there's a big difference between meming and being off meta.

Mogwai, Swim these guys understood that it's okay to play unique lists but only if they can beat what's popular.

So right now that's two things, one is jayce, and one is elites.

Pick one if you can't beat either your deck essentially shouldn't exist in its current form.

So how do you build good off meta brews?

Well two things play the matchup and see if you can climb, two if you find that intimidating then play the matchup with a friend.

As soon as you can start winning with your trash vs their treasure you have an off meta brew.

If you can't its a meme...sorry.

Hey fam, I'm creating this thread as a spot for tips, tricks, and comps for tackling a specific PvE bounty. 

If there's a better space for this kind of thing, let me know. 

An example, Lord Banehollow's crew have Holy weakness, so bring your holy damage to finish them off. 

Second example: I'm stuck on Rend Blackhand. What did you do against a boss that can deal 200 damage in one shot? 

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BloodMefist wants us to return to Naxxramas (no, not the recent mini-set) to make some cards out of what we can find there. Get out here, Purator, this for things that were actually in Naxxramas.

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I've talked quite a bit on many platforms how the sudden mainstream success of both yetis and Leona surprised me quite a bit.

But the weirdness doesn't stop there:

Jayce Lux at 55% this ain't no isolated incident we are talking 500 games in the last 3 days consistent winrate with good old fashioned I'm a firing my Lazar!

Ziggs Thaliyah at 55% with 1500 games played. Oh boy and for you arsenal fans it is in fact running one copy. 

I will mention it again but I mentioned on reddit that Annie ezreal was one of the top new lists and it is once again holding down 55%

Plunder back to 55% so great for thr gangplank lovers

You know what's down?

Nora cuz **** Nora and every single player that thought Nora decks where the meta and the future.

Sorry bit of a pet peave but sometimes you can't help but be right.

Overall even what 2, 3 weeks into this latest balance patch meta we are seeing huge moves on the tierlists, so I think calling this meta jello was the right call. It keeps on jiggling.

So we are getting 10 new variety cards coming soon to LOR and about a month to play around with them in our massive card pool.

Will it be removal, tribal support, archetype support, who knows but any of that would be awesome.

On the less exciting note they are finally gonna start "deleting" rotating cards in LOR in a month with the next expansion:

1. Good news is stable metas with top decks for those that like climbing

2. Bad news for the first time ever you will not have free acess to the complete card pool in LOR for deck crafting

Just to give a detailed account of what this means, Jayce for example exists in two of the top control decks in jayce Lux, and jayce heimer.

If he gets rotated that would free up room potentially for other control archetypes to exist.

Bad news is Lux is no longer playable in the meta.

So I know for me I'm in wait and see mode, new variety cards will be awesome, rotation might just break the game in a dozen ways we will see.

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Today I found this forum and feel like I really need to talk about my two pasions

"Pasta" and "Milanesa Napolitana con Papas Fritas"

Pasta is really well known and I hthink some spaghettis with mushroom stew and cheese is just amazing.

On the other hand we have the Milanesa. It is something really popular where I used to live. You can find its recipe here

https://www.lanacion.com.ar/recetas/platos-de-comida-principal/milanesitas-tentadoras-napolitanas-nid12042014/

It is in spanish, but can be translated with help of google.

I feel this is just amazing and evven looks really tempting. You can also fry some eggs and put them on the milanesa or the french fries and just be amazed.

Probably this is not really healthy, but damn it is good.

Title says it all. Well, in case you haven't heard of, a developer called Matt London wrote a post on Twitter, indicating that Blizzard is planning to bring the best experience for Wild format.

I wonder what's going to happen but unless they look into these issues below, I'm not holding my breath. These are my takes and I would like to hear your thoughts as well:

General

• The cost of cards shouldn't be reduced below 1 Mana, no matter what. Mana cheat went way overboard that a hard rule must be applied. That means cards like Emperor Thaurissan and Insight can reduce the cost down to 1 Mana, similar to how Arcane Luminary functions. This rule will keep Pillager Rogues and Secret Mages to not spam 0-Cost cards.
• If necessary, a card should have alternative/different variant for Wild format. For example, Contract Conjurer might be OK in Standard but not so much for Wild.
• A graveyard system must be implemented so Big Priests can't resurrect same minion over and over again. Right now, if Blood of G'huun dies once, you can play 2xResurrect cards right away. Here, I propose you can play Resurrect only once if G'Huun died once. This rule will also affect N'Zoth cards and similar ones, to a degree.

Druid

• Play Floop's Glorious Gloop to gain infinite mana, if utilized well. How about a hard cap, which you can gain up to 10 Mana Crystals, even if you have Guff Hero card played? Like, you have gained 9 Mana and spent them, then 2 minions killed but only one is granted to you, not two. It also shouldn't stack with cards such as Solar Eclipse.
• Wildheart Guff should have 15 Mana Crystals at max, not 20.

Mage

• Kirin Tor Mage cries in the corner because Kabal Lackey and Anonymous Informant are much better. These cards should reduce the cost of secret to 1 Mana, not zero. While at it, their cost should be upped by 1 Mana.
• Kabal Crystal Runner should reduce her cost by 1, not 2.
• Contract Conjurer should cost 1 less for each secret controlled. Maybe make him 7 Mana, perhaps?

Priest

• New graveyard system, please look above.
• Some resurrect cards Big Priests use should have mana cost raised by one. Candidates are; Resurrect+Eternal Servitude.
• Shadow Essence should summon 3/3 or 4/4 minion, not 5/5.
• Illuminate should cost 1 Mana and reduce the cost of spell by 2, not 3.
• Radiant Elemental limits design for future Priest cards, which has proven pretty much with Mind Sear. This card belongs to Ungoro expansion and it's Elemental. Thus, I propose the following change: "Your Elementals have +1 Health" which looks thematically fitting.

Rogue

• Maybe not a problem right now but either increase the condition for The Caverns Below or change its reward to set minions to 3/3 instead of 5/5.
• Swordfish should either have 2 durability or grant +1 Attack.
• Cutlass Courier has very good stats for his ability if compared with similar cards. Reducing his stats to 1/4 looks like a right balance choice.
• Scabbs Cutterbutter should be...
  • 5 Mana, rest is same.
  • 4 Mana, reduction is 2.
  • 3 Mana, reduction is 1.

Shaman

• Splitting Axe converted into a Deathrattle card rather than Battlecry one prevents the insta-snowball effect.
• Totemic Might and Totemic Surge should cost 1 Mana.
• Why are Thing from Below and Gigantotem same cards? To differentiate, I suggest Thing from Below reading "Cost 1 less for each Totem you control." 

That's all what I can think of. Let me hear your thoughts. With the insight shared from Blizzard, I really look forward to see Wild format grow even better.

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I hope this helps some of you and if you try it and it works, please feel free to comment and let know how it went for you!

HOW TO PLAY

T1: Sunspot / Pass.
T2: Morbius OR Colleen Wing (discarding Swarm or Wolverine).
T3: Lady Sif (discarding Apocalypse) OR Nakia (ideally buffing Swarm, MODOK or Apocalypse. OR Morbius + Sunspot.
T4: Dracula OR Morbius + Colleen Wing.
T5: MODOK.
T6: America Chavez + all 0-cost Swarms, ensuring Dracula discards Apocalypse.