So like many of you I swap cards games now and then.

Hearthstone -> gwent -> shadowverse ->mtg arena -> lor -> snap

Early impressions were good in pool 1 and 2.

I got to vibranium with an equal card pool and equal footing with opponents.

Just maximizing the gambling mechanic by knowing exactly every card the opponent could have because they had the same cards as me.

Then I got to pool 3 and the game changed. Instantly it just became about mashing as much math into the opponents face in the 6 turns alloted and nothing else mattered.

So very quickly I started to miss things like instant speed interactions, fast speed interactions, removal, board cleares, like actual "counter play" beyond location locking, movement and killmonger/chang chi which are the exception not the rule.

So for the first time ever I'm regressing back a game, I'm back maining LOR because I disagree with Mogwai I think Snap kinda sucks.

When Ben Brode took out everything in card games that was "anti fun" he also took everything out of card games that was "pro smart" and that kinda sucks.

So yeah Snap you have a lot of growing up to do in my mind to match the perfection of LOR 

Just my 5 cents feel free to fight me in the comments.

Hi all,

This is a self plugin for my channel ^^.

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I m doing a for fun decks and my biggest playlist is on "one champ per deck" matches.

I put the deck in the description if you like to try it.

I'm open to any suggestion for both the channel and decks.

I will love if you dislike something to be frank and say it.

I'm still growing as a content creator so Newer videos will have a "slight" improvement and off course

subscibe and like and comment all the good stuff.

Just a quick brag thread here (but also encouragement for my fellow Merc players). Yesterday I maxxed out Murloc Holmes, completing my collection of maxxed out mercenaries. I spent very little money on this mode (2 bundles early on, both in the $15 range), and just a lot of grinding. When the excess coin exchange arrived, I traded in for around 30,000 Renown. I now have about 1,000. Also have 73 packs saved up for future content drops. 

There is hope my friends! Yes, there are major problems with this game mode (bots in the pit, diminishing returns on coins, no pity timer on legendaries, etc.). But if you have fun playing it, keep going! The grind may be a slog, but at one PvP win per day and daily tasking, you can obtain a full set of maxxed out mercenaries. And there are lots of fun, competitive squads to play. I regularly encounter comps I haven't seen before, and sometimes I try them out myself!

Here's hoping for more content coming soon!

https://app.mobalytics.gg/lor/meta-tier-list

Okay so now that the hot fix has landed and we can safely say we've moved past the stupid card pile phase, which happens every now and then, and pro players are like man this 3 champion split deck is 100% the best deck in the game, we can talk about what people are actually playing.

S tier:

1. Lulu Jinx - that right now the game is more or less balanced you can just play sneezy bigger dust and win fun deck that has stood the test of time in S tier

2. Pirate aggro - nerfed into the ground and still S tier its never going anywhere

A tier:

1  hallowed - yep another deck that has stood the test of time with the competitive use of the "recently" reworked Katarina showing that any low tier can become top tier.

2.hemier shadow - there's always some version of heimer control that is playable this does not change its universal

3. Ramp - ramp is probably the strongest its been in a long time in the latest expansion, I would call it almost unfair and all the best decks are.

4. Attrox decks - I'm just gonna lump these together cheap value equipment plus a big boy, sometimes you play for value and you go Kayne sometimes you play for thr extra attacks with Vayne, good flexible champ.

5. Swain Tf - one of the oldest viable control decks in LOR revitalized by the buffs to Swain and boat. Once again any low tier deck can be A tier.

6.plunder - even the nerf to gangplank can't keep this powerhouse midrange deck down.

7. Annie Jhin - kinda the worse version of aggro right now mainly because Jhins champ spell is the worst in the game. Change that and this aggro deck might hit S tier one day.

8. Seraphine Ezreal - still a good combo deck due to the spell priority change where spell procs happen instantly and you can just stack 10 spells for lethal, the nerd to barkeep didn't change a ton

9. Rumble - kinda just a scary card and obviously vayne let's him attack extra but I don't think she's necessary

Personal addition:

10. Shurima - I don't care if it's mono shurima or ziggs thaliyah landmarks this deck did not go from S tier to D tier with a 1 mana nerf.

B tier: 

Lurk & deep - I'm gonna lump these together as the good bilgewater tribal decks I think they are both very playable

Yassao - yep if you're not brain deck this deck can put in the work

Zed Heckarim - got a very strong tribal card eith the latest expansion which makes it quite playable but not without weakness

So there you have it, actual archetypes and actual decks. I wouldn't be surprised if there's eay more thats viable that people just aren't playing.

The card pool is massive at this point and I kinda like that.

I'm gonna hate rotation, and I kinda hate these one hit wonder Champs Lor keeps releasing when Swain and Sejuani have been A tier for like the entirety of the lifespan of the game.

Competition Theme: The Dead of Knight

The Death Knights have arisen, and now we serve them... in our job to make them new cards. Your card must be a Death Knight card, but you've got up to three different routes to go for a valid entry!

• Rotten to the Corpse
  • Design a card with Corpse synergy.
    • The most straightforward way to do is to just make a card that spends Corpses, but there are a number of other ways you can go about this.
• Triple Threat
  • Create a triple-Rune card.
    • Hint: Look at the existing triple-Rune cards that Death Knight has to get a better understand of what constitutes as a triple-Rune card.
• House of the (Un)Dead
  • Design a card with Undead synergy/interaction.
    • Your card (if it's a minion) doesn't need to be an Undead, but merely just being an Undead will not count. Otherwise, you're free to go whatever route you want as long as it uses direct interaction with Undeads.

While you're more than welcome to try to make a card that fulfills all 3 prompts, this is fully optional and will likely prove to be a challenge.

We're kicking off Season 6 with a fun competition all about Death Knights. There's no prize for winning this one, but it'll be a sign of things to come.

As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Jan 2 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sat, Jan 7 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Jan 7 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sun, Jan 8 16:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Jan 8 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Mon, Jan 9 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

Discussion Thread Rules

Please note: This is a special competition and not in a normal season.

A new Legendary Neutral Minion, Brann Bronzebeard, has been revealed!

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LOR is a card game that is increasingly not only having superficial similarities with magic the gathering, but is also running into similar problems.

Namely, there are too many "set mechanics" being introduced into the game.

Culminating into perhaps what has been one of the biggest failures of an expansion to date, housing the first instance of dead champions.

Both Exodia (Rhyze) and empower (Kayle) don't really work or make sense in LOR as a game.

Like you could say we'll Bard exists and he can hard hand buff all your empower cards. Deck buff exists in freijord and a worse version of handcuff exists in Ionia, and now Targon has buff cards too.

So you should say that Kayle is amazing, she has more cross region support then any other champion in the game, but there in lies the problem.

If none of the synergies are worth pursuing then none of them will be played.

Similarly Rhyze isn't the first exodia card introduced into lor, fiora exists, healing fountain, and bandle tree.

So many of the most exciting cards in the expansion aren't actually the new champions but the pre-existing archetype support.

More ramp, more hallow (eww but yes good), more elite, more spawn for Illois, more self dmg and yes the list goes on.

For the first time in LOR history I'm more interested in crafting epic cards then champions as a free to play player because honestly who cares about this new garbage when you can play better designed decks with more support?

So what is the fix here longterm for LOR? For the first time ever I want to see more in archetype champion support. I want a 3 mana vlad enabler, I want a scout, I want a elite, I want a deep champion, a lurk champion, a daybreak nightfall champion.

In short take that massive league of legends roster you want to feed down our throat and just slam them in as an additional option for an already good deck.

Boom now everyone is a consideration and nothing is dead. While LOR believes the solution to its longterm health is just to delete old champions, I belive the opposite supplement them and stop churning out these one hit wonders.

Just my 2 cents feel free to hit me up in the comments.

Here's my source for the hotfix info - https://www.reddit.com/r/LoRCompetitive/comments/104dtgp/hotfix_later_today/

Here are the changes:

Back Alley Bar: c6 > c7

Darkin Aegis: 1|1 > 0|1

World Ender: c13 > c16

Fallen Reckoner: 4|3 > 3|2

Risen Reckoner: 6|3 > 5|2

Vayne: 3|4 > 3|3

Vayne (Level 2): 4|5 > 4|4

A new Legendary Neutral Minion, Astalor Bloodsworn, has been revealed!

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A new card, Shanna the She-Devil, has been revealed for Marvel Snap!

On Reveal: Add a random 1-Cost card to each location.

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This is a weekly article that puts up the current winrates and playrates of the top decks in LoR.

Feel free to argue with the commentary if you like, but the winrates and playrates are not open to debate.

After playing mainly Control Blood DK in Standard since the expansion came out I want to play a faster deck for a change.

I consider to craft Pure Paladin for Standard. Here I am missing Kotori Lightblade. After playing against some Pure Paladins I can`t remember to see Kotori in action at all. I wonder how important this card is for the deck.

So: How relevant is this minion in the deck?

Is it important, nice to have or even redundant?

When do they come back? And any news of larger sized comps, like custom classes or expansions?

For a second I want to imagine that you're a card game designer, creating a design document that outlines the creation of a game.

You start by listing out all of the different factors that might decide winning a match or losing, and then creating logical and relavent design decisions as a direct result.

Scenario A: the person with the biggest number on one side wins.

1. Will there be spells that can influence the math represented by a creatures attack - no?

2. All spells effects will be integrated into creature text

3. Cards get played at the same time

4. There will be 3 locations which will provide a small degree of variance and decision making where none would exist otherwise

So what this effectively means is that the decks that present the strongest one sided board states invariably win...period

Scenario B: The person who goes from 20 to 0 life loses

1. Well you can cast spells to decrease life, so you need healing and counter spells to compensate

2. You have creatures, but you also must be able to block attacks so you don't die

3. You have buffs that are temporary that can only be played at the moment of combat interaction, but also permanent buffs for tribal decks

4. You can cast spells to kill units one at a time or all at once.

5. You have special wincons that don't involve life manipulation

You see the addition of a life total in a card game creates opportunities for spiraling design opportunities.

Games that don't have life Totals are simple a matter of bigger number wins, and without the means of direct interaction there is never a reason to play a deck that presents lower numbers then bigger ones unless you're just locking the opponent down so they can't play.

What you end up with is a dumb game by design, and it shouldn't be a surprise it was in the design document all along.

With 2022 coming to a close, I wanted to compile a nice presentation for every alternate hero skin. Alternate heroes are something I'm strangely passionate about, despite how inundated we are with them now and the fact that I don't even play Hearthstone anymore.

This is a visual list of every alternate hero skin organized by release order, as well as the year they were released. To qualify, the hero has to be a different character than the base hero, and only one character per portrait is counted. That's also including the two that are in the game but not currently obtainable.

EDIT: Apparently Whitemane and Mal'ganis are currently purchasable. My bad. Like I said, I'm not playing the game.

Can anyone provide a list of cards that have had their types adjusted? I don't have Hearthstone downloaded anymore (I don't really plan on playing it again), but I would like to know which cards were changed. I've noticed a few bizarre ones in videos I've watched, like Igneous Lavagorger is an Elemental Beast now.

So they printed two new self dmg cards in the most recent expansion.

Here to help, and blood Pigeon.

Both are very strong in Vlad

But guess who's number one on the rotation chopping block?

Thats right the self dmg champion

Forget about rotation Riot you'll ruin your amazing game.

Oh and this deck is actually pretty good now BTW.

Is it a meme yes, but it's a strong meme and isn't that what card games are all about?

I waxed poetic quite a bit before about how wild mysticism is the single best Freijord card since lisandra and three sisters.

Single handedly elevating the region to the likes of druid from hearthstone which was always the intention (midrange freij still saj)

But another card came out that no seems to be talking about and boy is it a doozy.

Back in the day of shurimas release people used to talk about the uber deny, and how toxic it was deleting a chain of spells for a mana crystal.

But nobody is saying anything about the cycle deny in bandlecity. You see the thing about deny is that its kind of a "bad card" ie. It's verrrry high value the turn you play it and kinda gets worse with subsequent uses.

So having deny simultaneously thin your deck and get you to your wincon is insane.

It's good too because the region needed another pillar card like pokey stick so they got pokey deny and it makes bandle city a valid control region consideration once again.

Good job Riot I'l admit I thought Darkin saga pt 2 was kind of a mess and I criticized Part 3 for being low impact but you really take a closer look there are some game changers.

I do not want to be rude, but what is happening with all the random signouts I seem to be experiencing the past couple of hours?

I do not think the cause is on my side. Is it perhaps related to the upcoming major site update? 

People are very quick to flock to strategies that are simple and effective in LOR.

Zoe elusive, hallowed card pile, bilgewater aggro, not realizing that with the release of part 3 of the darkin saga that a massive number of good cards hit the table.

We got elite support, we got ramp support, we got acess to the full playset of darkin weapons which are all broken.

We got new spells, new followers, we got poros, and the list goes on.

Yet everyone is just like durrrr hallowed 1 drop, hallowed 2 drop win game plz durrrr?

Meanwhile I'm like boom quadruple ramp 8 drop what chu do now do nothing deck?

Play actual archetypes, play actual decks with actual wincons, actual champion level ups, and actual reason to play and win.

Don't just play the 54% winrate card pile vs the 52% winrate archetype.

Because you will ironically lose against anyone who isn't hedging their bets against mediocrity as hard as you are.

Hi folks!

Is anyone playing Skyweaver?

https://www.skyweaver.net/

I just started playing it and seems really nice. Might look like HS but it's really not. There are different layers of complexity to it that make it fresh and interesting.

Now, has anyone played enough of it to know if it's playable without paying any money even later down the road? I.e. not becoming frustrating and such.

Thanks!

The good is that there is a massive number of unique decks and archetypes that achieve unique goals.

The bad, there's 100ds of non unique decks that essentially just jam easy agressive high value cards that don't actually do anything.

Why is hallowed one of the highest played archetypes in the history of LOR?

It's idiot proof and it goes in everything.

Why is Freijord the least played region?

It requires you to do the most bs to be playable and win games. (Although wild mysticism is a great buff)

So why did people leave?

Well the cool decks are generally worse then the dumb decks.

Ryse releases and requires a ton of bs to play well thats 40% instantly

Ionia gets a nerf and stops being a powerhouse? Well nobody is gonna play it.

Meanwhile hallowed decks will exist in the game forever as a ubiquitous and easy form of high value aggro.

So while I will always enjoy the core LOR experience of smart deck vs smart deck playing for unique wincons.

I'll also hate the game for its lingering hearthstone elements, who curves the hardest while denying easy value for the opponent.

Since the last event (don't know if that has influence) battlenet is constantly disconnecting  when trying to start playing hearthstone. And more annoying it does it while playing the game, when you finally managed to get in.

Uninstalled and reinstalled it.
Modem and router unplugged for half an hour.

I have a good connection, and i don't have disconnections with anything else.
It's pretty frustrating not to be able to play in a normal way.

Anyone has this as well?
and/or
Someone having a solution for this?

One of the things I liked about LOR is that there weren't any "best decks"

You could take a Swain deck that was powerful in vanilla LOR since the games launch, give it a numbers tweak during a patch and just go right back to winning with boat 3 years later.

But in snap it is a numbers game.

If you can play a card like brood and tripple or double buff it with the likes of patriot and silver surfer.

It's like gg good job you build the most vanilla of all decks that synergies with the most vanilla of all cards and you won by putting out the biggest numbers...gg go next? You win?

Ideally in card games people like to build "archetypes" not "anti archetypes" and when the anti-archetypes get better than the archetypes as your reward for spending money or grinding the game since day 1.

Like good for you I guess? Just not sure that's for me, like maybe if you want to get to infinite but if you're beating up free to play players in Plat that's just sad.

Once again we are running into the greedy pool 3 problem, every now and then you will face these decks you dont have the tools to deal with so Ben Brode can get your money.

This is why I hated hearthstone and I hate to see it here in snap too.

Hi there!

I just found this forum and I've been trying to find places to talk about Snap that aren't reddit.

I wrote a handful of early game guides (and one guide on Apocalypse) but they're on a different site. I couldn't see any rules about promotion so I just wanted to ask first so I don't step on toes. If the answer is no that's totally fine. Just thought a guide to early game cards and decks might be helpful to anyone who is starting out and I spend so much time thinking about Snap, I just wanted to share and discuss my lists.

Cheers and Merry Christmas!