TheTriferianGeneral

Quote: "C. crystal arrow should cost more, shouldn't draw an extra card (That's just gratuitous) and it shouldn't be created instantly in hand"

Ashe Creates the crystal arrow on top of your deck and therefore it is fine that it draws a card since it would otherwise replace your next draw entirely

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Well, You also might not know that Spiderling - They Who Endure deck with Iceborn Legacy back in time that Iceborn Legacy wasn't changed.

That deck was quite rare to see but so powerful and successful and easy to make …

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Well, You also might not know that Spiderling - They Who Endure deck with Iceborn Legacy back in time that Iceborn Legacy wasn't changed.

That deck was quite rare to see but so powerful and successful and easy to make you at least diamond rank. I assume that this change was a bit needed because …

By drawing the right cards in time i talk about boardwipes that are needed to stop aggro, you eighter get them early or you get overun.

Also you got an completely strange idea of combo decks if you think that control beats combo (aka decks that knows ways to oneshot kill you if they get their combo assembled). Whoever …

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I dont know if you want to have a state of control like in mtg or hearthstone where you just spam value genegerators(like PWs), play denial(counterspells/discard) and cheap boardwipes in a deck, hope that you draw the fitting cards in time and call that a deck/game.

That should not …

Lemme give my 2 cents about the current state of control aswell guys:

While it is certainly not really possible to permanently control the game and lock it down completely it is not difficult to make decks that make it to turn 6/7 consistantly.

At that point you have to develop your wincondition so that cards that are …

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Don't worry.. I think they will realize it soon enough.. but It won't be changed until next patch.

IDK what they were thinking when making this a slow spell.. but you can try to protect the tockens with iron elixir or mark of the isles..

It's harder to play but much more rewarding.

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[runecardimg]Iceborn Legacy[/runecardimg]

I know most of you guys havent even heard of this card before and proably none of you heard of this card since the changes made to it.

What it does is that it gives a unit a buff permanently and gives the same buff to every copy on the board or created in the future.

I used to play kata until i realized that she is really not good at all in a competetive environment:

she is a 3 mana: deal 3 damge to whatever blocks her/ to the opponent (what is just a slow play that is not mana efficient)

she then becomes a 4 mana:deal 4 damge to whatever blocks her/ …

I totaly agree that they kinda deleted iceborn legacy what is really sad for me.

I was running frostborn legacy heimerdinger with all the crazy 3 mana burst spells that p&Z and Frejord have to create 20+ total power of drill turrets in 1 turn at burst speed (what is kinda the truest form of an otk).

Now …

Oh boy you seem to have no idea what Ezreal/Heimerdinger(+maybe ashe) decks are around there...

Saying that control didnt take over is something you only can say if you havent seen what P&Z+Freljord decks can do right now.

They go even early (with chumb blockers and removal), have the better midgame (with a bunch on medium sized units …

I have to admit that the full aggro list ist hard to deal with but that is actually true for almost every deck in the game right now. Even control decks often get into the situation that they eighter have avalance in their starting hand or get overun.

While i see that this is what oppressive control deck like …

You are getting me wrong tho I AM playing Heimer Ezreal control myself and i would not play Darius Lucian in this meta at all.

I beat spider/elusive lists with ease and the only deck that i lose to is the exact same /more burnish list.

That way it seems to be tier 0 right now and beats …

i know that might sound weird to many of you but since the nerfs to elusives and SI in general we got to a point where aggro decks hardly ever win a game against Ezreal/heimerdinger control decks that are using frostbite.

Right now the whole ladder that i experience consists of ezreal decks and its not likely to change …

https://outof.cards/legends-of-runeterra/decks/424-lucians-relentless-pursuit

That is the list that brought me from gold 4 to plat 4 in just 25 games facing the most common meta decks (spider/elusive) almost all the time. 

The reason why this deck worked so well for me is that people underestimate how quickly a lucian can escalate and how devestating a double attacker(lucian/senna) becomes with overwhelm …