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About the pre constructed decks...

Am I the only one who dislikes that T5 released these so early into the meta and has not bothered to update them, despite the fact most of them have been nerfed and do not see any competitive play? How many of them could you realistically keep a positive wr with anyways? It just seems kind of dishonest that these are being described as meta when only the paladin, priest, and warrior decks are.

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  • Am I the only one who dislikes that T5 released these so early into the meta and has not bothered to update them, despite the fact most of them have been nerfed and do not see any competitive play? How many of them could you realistically keep a positive wr with anyways? It just seems kind of dishonest that these are being described as meta when only the paladin, priest, and warrior decks are.

  • Sure, but that has been the modus operandi for a long time. Who even plays these pre-constructed decks anyway?

    If you are instead referring to the 'battle-ready' decks that were sold for 20 bucks, well that's another thing. If the meta shifts later on, it wouldn't make much sense for team5 to start offering apology notes. Many of them were fairly limited to begin with, like how face hunter has 2x Tame Beast (Rank 1) when this was literally never used in face hunter throughout the barrens meta. I thought many players agreed that if they bought it at all it was because it was offering guaranteed legendaries, not because the decks were relevant for ranking.

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  • I agree that it'd be nice for T5 to change their policy on updating pre-built decks within a season.  For example, I'm guessing that they don't update the pre-made decks that new players can choose after conquering the beginner ranks which seems at odds with the goal of those decks.  

    Unfortunately, I also agree with dapperdog that it's unlikely that they'll ever make this a priority given that Whizbang and Zayle didn't spur them into action.  However, maybe the new $20 "battle-ready" decks will cause this change if they think enough people would purchase them later if they weren't outdated.

    Updating decks raises at least 2 hassles:

    1. How frequently do you update?
      • The improved "autocomplete" deck algorithm makes it seem like they have the technology to keep decks fresh on a weekly basis, but this seems impractical from the dimensions of developer time, player confusion, and deck optimality (more likely to land on a "local maximum" than the eventual meta picks).
           
      • Alternatively, you could re-balance them after each round of nerfs/buffs, but the more you update them the more FOMO/claims of unfairness you might face from players who earn a pre-made deck/buy a battle-ready deck at the beginning of a season.  This leads into question #2...
           
    2. How should they handle complaints by people who purchased/earned a deck earlier in the expansion? 
      • Say tough luck and just deal with the negative feedback?
            
      • For the "battle-ready" decks only - allow people to purchase the cards that changed at a low cost? (e.g. $5)
            
      • Add a certain amount of dust (e.g., 1,000) to the new player decks and battle-ready decks as a form of insurance against future changes?
        • This would presumably raise the cost of the battle-ready decks.
             
      • Offer full insurance to those decks by giving out all golden cards which means they can be exchanged for any other card as the meta shifts? 
        • Would this be too generous for the new player decks? 
        • And how expensive would this make the battle ready decks?  (would probably have to institute tiers where you could purchase the current $20 deck or the golden version for like $60 or whatever the value equates to)
             

    My answer for #1 - I think pushing out one update per season a couple weeks after the mini-expansion would be a reasonable starting point.

    My answer for #2 - If you only release 1 update, then I think you don't have to offer any compensation to those that already chose/purchased their deck.

    • The current rewards track is pretty generous so I think that most people should be able to update their pre-built deck fairly easily if they really want.
      • What could help in this regards is updating the "autocomplete" deck algorithm to show you the best possible deck and not just the best possible deck given your current collection.
        • For example, they could make it so that if you click autocomplete while having the "crafting" button selected it builds the best possible deck and then you can decide whether to craft the missing cards or replace them with something from your collection.