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Folks, I apologize for asking such silly question, but I didn't manage to find any information on this anywhere :(

Until what date I can pre-purchase Saviors of Uldum bundles? 

Thanks in advance!

A new Common Neutral Minion, Murmy, has been revealed!

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A new Legendary Paladin Spell, Making Mummies, has been revealed!

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Was looking at deck tracker earlier after I managed to get my goal of rank 5 on NA, EU and Asia.

Damn that's bad winrate :)

But then the page up is a massive winning streak (though to be fair I changed deck 9 games in):

Lesson I learned - don't be disheartened if things aren't going well - take a break, consider meta, keep going and try to have fun!

How do you deal with it when things aren't going well?

A new Rare Warlock Minion, Expired Merchant, has been revealed!

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Have you seen others link to cards like Millhouse Manastorm or put their decks in a post but not quite know how to use this yourself? You've come to the right thread! Below i will provide a brief guide on how to use 'BBCode' for yourself. Hope some may find it useful!

What is BBCode?

Bulletin Board Code is a simplified form of 'markup' that is typically used for formatting posts on message boards. In this case, we will be using it to add enhanced card and deck elements to posts, comments, deck guides, signatures & private messages.

It's pretty straightforward:

• Every code has an opening and closing tag. 
• Each tag is includes square brackets [ ] found beside the letter P on your keyboard.
• A tag has one or more parameters inside the brackets to tell it what to do.
• The opening tag will have the main parameter (example: 'card') and in some cases other optional parameters.
• Optional parameters give ways to customize the result in some cases; they are separated from the main one with a space.
• The closing tag will always have a forward slash / followed  by the same main parameter as the opening tag.
• Between the two tags you enter data, whether that be a deck id number or a card name etc.
• When you submit it to the site it then processes it into another form of markup that browsers can understand and display, like HTML.

Note: You must use plain text for these, as things like bolded or italic text will break it. I am intentionally breaking it in this post to show what to type.

Read on for an explanation on how to apply these in your own posts.

Feel free to use this thread to test if necessary!

• Out of Cards BBCodes

Card Tooltips

• Tooltips link to a card and show you the image of it when your cursor hovers over them.
• The name of the card you enter is displayed in a corresponding rarity colour.
• Although they are called 'card' tooltips, they work for any sort of entry in the database like hero powers and bosses as well.
• If there are things with the same name, such as a legendary card and also boss portrait, it will default to one.
• If it does not display what you intended you may have to look up the page with the search function and use the id# instead.

To use a card tooltip, you only need to type the following.

1. Opening tag: [card].
2. The exact name of card OR card ID (found in the card page URL, Millhouse Manastorm is 4047).
3. Closing tag: [/card]

[card]millhouse manastorm[/card] becomes:

Millhouse Manastorm

Including a second parameter 'gold' with a space will (soon!) load the golden image for the tooltip instead, if available.

Card Images

Very similar to the card tooltips however this tag will result in a clickable image being displayed, rather than just fancy text.

Use the same method as above, instead using [cardimg]name or id [/cardimg] which results in the following:

This is the default size, however you can choose the size for yourself. 

Custom Sizes

To make the image a particular size:

• Following the cardimg parameter add a space and the optional parameter 'size=#'.
• This goes only in the opening tag.
• The # can be anything from 0-400 pixels. This is the width dimension for the image, and it scales accordingly.
• A common custom size to use is 220 as it lets you put 5 cards horizontally: [cardimg size=220]name or id[/cardimg].

Gold Images

You like golden animation? Here's how to display them:

• Following the cardimg parameter add a space and the optional parameter 'gold'.
• This goes only in the opening tag.
• You may also use the size parameter separated by a space.
• Keep in mind that these use more resources to display, so try not to spam them!

Battlegrounds Images

If you want to display the Battlegrounds version of a card, you can do so by using the "bg" attribute on card and cardimg tags.

Let's use Alleycat as an example.

[cardimg bg]Alleycat[/cardimg] will give you:

Deck Widgets

So you've created a deck using our deckbuilder and you'd like to share it with everyone? The solution is simple!

On the page of a deck you will see a button below the user labeled '</> Copy BBCode'. This will copy the code to your clipboard for you to paste, easy!

Optionally you can type the [deck]id[/deck] BBCode with the id being found in the url of the deck page.

For example, this deck is number 6066: https://outof.cards/hearthstone/decks/6066-da-mumdatakah-quest-paladin

Using this deck id in the code results in a widget that neatly displays information about it and also links to it's page:

Da Mumdatakah Quest Paladin

Wild · Quest Paladin · by Chimera · 6 years, 8 months ago

• 1 Crystology x 2
• 1 Making Mummies x 1
• 1 Murmy x 2
• 2 Micro Mummy x 2
• 2 Subdue x 2
• 2 Temple Berserker x 2
• 3 Acolyte of Pain x 2
• 3 Bronze Gatekeeper x 2
• 3 Candletaker x 2
• 3 Consecration x 2
• 4 Ancestral Guardian x 2
• 4 Annoy-o-Module x 2
• 4 Bone Wraith x 2
• 5 Mechano-Egg x 2
• 5 Zilliax x 1
• 6 Pharaoh's Blessing x 1
• 8 Da Undatakah x 1

6,820 Dust 10,582 8 Copy Deck Code

If any questions are left unanswered you are welcome to ask them here! 

Hey I'm Griffior, I've played since Naxx so that automatically gives me the credibility that I know what I'm talking about. I saw the reveal while I was at work and have been trying to figure out where these guys fit in. FYI I'll be calling the SoU Explorers the New Explorers so there's no confusion.

So we're going to look at the cards one by one to kind of figure out where they fit right now, and where they could fit into a future deck..... Even though we only have like what? 15 cards revealed thus far?

Let's start with the Big Boi Reno the Relicologist. So right off the bat we can we can see that it's automatically a move away from Cyclone mage, which is a good thing. That deck is strong enough as it is and doesn't honestly need any more help.... So where else does Reno fit in? So if we look at him, it's 10 damage randomly split among enemy MINIONS. This is obviously in flavor of the "hero coming in and killing the evil Lackeys", it's that obvious. Sure it's good against aggro and maybe some mid-range decks, but on its own, on an empty board, it's just a 6 mana 4/6 that just makes you play a restricted deck. I mean LoE Reno at least healed you if you absolutely had to play him for some tempo, but SoU Reno? Nu-uh. I honestly would have preferred equipping the Gatling-Wand with some random effects associated with whatever color wand was being used that turn. And the Mage quest doesn't really help out either so I only see Reno being played in decks that are already good on their own when there are no duplicates remaining in the deck.

Now onto the most niche of the New Explorers, Elise the Enlightened. As I said, this card is very niche, most likely for some kind of OTK/TTK. But hey, someone already found the niche in which she belongs: https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/cey0ht/apm_time/ If anything the only other place I can find a home for her is towards the late game combo'ed with The Forest's Aid. There's also an infinite combo with Barista Lynchen so there could be a possibility for a Fatigue Druid, but with Highlander it would be near impossible to pull off. But I'd like to see it in HS eSports.

Dinotamer Brann makes me scratch my head the most. Objectively, it's more powerful than a vanilla King Krush because of the extra body that is Brann. But again, it's at the cost of not having duplicates in your deck. We saw this effect of a legendary card summoning another, older legendary card with Jan'alai, the Dragonhawk, it's a nice theme but it's starting to seem that they are just recycling older cards instead of actually making new, unique ones. I hope it's a trend that doesn't stick around. I don't know if Mech Hunter could use this, I haven't played it enough to honestly say it can afford to cut duplicates, but hey someone out there will try it. I'm also not sure if any Hunter deck would make the sacrifice of not having duplicates, but only time will tell.

I'm glad they kept the theme of Sir Finley alive with his battlecry, but just like in LoE, his ability is just a polarizing. Sir Finley of the Sands has the potential to high-roll a paladin into an easy victory, or just straight up make it more difficult for either player of the match. It won't be as polarizing as Baku the Mooneater because you actually have to draw AND play him in order to gain the benefit of an upgraded hero power. On top of that it won't always be an upgraded paladin hero power, and depending on the scenario and how the game is going, chances are that the player won't find the hero power they are looking for. Side note: Do we want to play Finley in the same deck as the new Paladin quest? Or are they aiming for two paladin deck archtypes with this expansion?

What leads me to believe that the cards are even more niche than they already are, is that highlander deck format are not getting support outside of the legendary minions themselves: https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/ceyyv1/confirmed_by_liv_bredeen_no_other_highlander/ When I look back at Reno Jackson, Kazakus, Inkmaster Solia, Raza the Chained, and Krul the Unshackled, they were all pretty powerful on their own at the time (you couldn't tell because of fucking Jade Druid). The New Explorers (except for Brann, kind of) don't have that big swing of power that the old Highlander cards had. Elise is the only one that could set up a massive combo but it seems so niche and hard to pull off that it's almost not worth it.

Right now Bomb Warrior is a thing that's going to be around for at least 8 months after Saviors of Uldum launches I bring this up because: https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/ceyzrt/bomb_warrior_probably_relevant_still_because_of/

So tell me what you all think on what I've elaborated on, maybe you can add to this conversation.

Edit 1: Apparently Blizzard still has one more Highlander card to show off. It's a neutral: https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/cewzfg/saviors_of_uldum_card_reveal_discussion_thread/eu63bhg Still probably not going to be good enough IMO.

Edit 2: Well, Making Mummies just got announced so I guess they are giving paladin some options for this meta.

A new Legendary Paladin Minion, Sir Finley of the Sands, has been revealed!

Upgraded Hero Powers:

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A new Legendary Druid Minion, Elise the Enlightened, has been revealed!

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A new Legendary Hunter Minion, Dinotamer Brann, has been revealed!

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A new Legendary Mage Minion, Reno the Relicologist, has been revealed!

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How come there are no Hunter card reveals?

Don't really need to say anything more than what the title says. Mechs are cancer to the game right now and have turned Hearthstone into a single meta (imo).

When I log into Hearthstone, on the Battle Net Site there is a news window: second week of firefestival, new challenges and rewards! Together with last weeks Rafaam picture, as well as an asortement of packs and gold. 

Well, yesterday and today I logged in with an empty quest log, and did not receive any legendary quests. As I didn't find an anoucement for legendary quests anywhere, this should not come as a surprise, but on the Battle Net news thing at least 3 Saviors of Uldum packs were depicted, and now I wonder whether a quest that will grant us this third pack will show up.

Does anybody know something about this? 

The OOC countdown shows a Reno card of some kind being revealed in approx. 6.5 hours. . .

A former main site I'd been visiting for a few years shows, instead, a Sir Finley card coming in 7.5 hours. . .

All else appears the same - alternate realities? Both right? 

can we saw this on stream somewhere?????

In Magic or Yu-Gi-Oh, there have been banned cards in some formats. My question is, why don't you do that with Hearthstone? We've seen cards deemed as "cancer", such as Baku the Mooneater. There probably is some easy reason to this that someone already answered, but it would seem hella lot easier to just delete the card together, refund the dust, or move it into another format, like a format where every card is available(No, not Wild, we would move Baku OUT of the Wild and into this "fun" format). I am not salty about all these Odd paladins or Odd Rogues, because frankly I believe there will always be a deck everyone hates and right now it's a combination of Odd Paladin and Big Priest. I'm not that miffed by Mage because it's they're turn to shine. So why?

A new Legendary Warrior Minion, Armagedillo, has been revealed!

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https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/wild-vs-data-reaper-report-18/

Quest Mage rises in popularity and becomes another meta-definer (killing the Control side of the spectrum, as if BP wasn't enough). Yet its popularity rises on the very top only at Legend, where the meta is actually not as competitive as it is in previous ranks.

Also, about the age-old rethoric about "Priests in Wild are forced to Big Priest as the only decent deck for the Class, and that's why BP is so popular", well, there's the counter-proof:

https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/wild-vs-data-reaper-report-18/#Priest

https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/corbetts-inner-fire-priest/

I find the fall of Aggro Druid to be the greatest bummer of this report, I didn't expect it at all. It felt so consistent after RoS.

Overall, the meta can arguably be described by the relation: Tempo > Aggro > BP/QM ~ Tempo