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Stay On Target - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

Competition Theme: Stay On Target

We need you to keep on target this week, so... wait, I have an idea!

Demonxz95 is looking for us to expand our goals this week, or at least hit a few more targets!

As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

  • Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Jul 11 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Jul 16 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
  • Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Jul 16 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Jul 17 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
  • Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Jul 17 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Jul 18 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
  • Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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  • Competition Theme: Stay On Target

    We need you to keep on target this week, so... wait, I have an idea!

    Demonxz95 is looking for us to expand our goals this week, or at least hit a few more targets!

    As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

    Competition Phases

    Here are the phases of this card design competition

    • Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Jul 11 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Jul 16 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Jul 16 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Jul 17 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Jul 17 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Jul 18 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

    Discussion Thread Rules

    No thread rules were added to this season. Please populate and manually edit this thread with them.

  • Idea is that you can either buff up your stuff or destroy 1 minion. if the minion has 1 gift from a previous cast of this spell, receiving another will kill them. issue is finding a mana cost/gift number balance. 3 mana destroy a minion felt ok since priest can do it for 2 but what do you guys think?

  • We have the technology!

    I know the name for Tri-Cast Orbs isn't great, but I literally couldn't think of anything else better and I was spending a long time on it already.

    Friendly Staff

  • Qorval doesn't start with multi-targeting, but after you Infuse him he can kill + summon two minions. The token is an example, such as if you had destroyed a Kalecgos or Ysera the Dreamer.

    Friendly

  • Swapping stuff is gonna be very common this week i guess...not sure if this is special enough^^

  • I'm pretty sure I'll go with some variation of this, but I'm wondering if I should hive it an optimal statline. I mean, you need your opponent to have two minions AND have some means to damage one of them for this to be effective...

    Also, maybe the class should be Warlock, as the effect is a curse. But man, I like this artwork so much for this effect.

    My previous ideas are inside the spoiler.

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    I was very satisfied with Faceless Trickster… Until I realized it's almost identical to a previous winner this season. I don't think I'll go with it, but I wanted to post it anyways.

    About Darksong Deranger, she's based on the myths of sirens luring sailors with their songs. Not sure if this flavor is conveyed clearly enough, though.

  • Going with these two this week, a safe option and a bold one. Mischievous Sea Witch is supossed to only Discover targetable spells, and I hope the text in Multi-Arrows is clear enough, let me now if it is not.

  • We're going fast this week! Here's some early feedback while I try to come up with an idea that could match at least one of these amazing cards. Seriously, this week is nuts. I already see multiple 5-stars.

    Feedback

    BasilAnguis
    I love the idea, but I do think it should be a 4-Cost. If not for its value, then for its flexibility. Of course you'd want to add a third statpoint to the buff in that case.

    Demonxz95
    I like Soul Swap best. It makes great use the prompt's mechanic.

    linkblade91
    Looks good. Might need to be an 8-Cost.

    TheHoax91
    Very good use of the prompt's mechanic. I just think it's too much of an upgrade to Silas Darkmoon.

    Wailor
    Zandalari Soulbinder is amazing. Another great use of the mechanic. I think the statline is probably fine, since it puts the minions in a dangerous position regardless. Also, I like it better as a Shaman card. It is nice to see class identities be expanded a little and this screams VOODOO!

    MrRhapsody
    Multi-Arrows is my absolute favorite here. I would like to see the order be Freeze-Lifesteal-Poisonous to make them more in line with the art (technically, it should be in reverse, but Poisonous is too long to fit on the first line). It's a 5/5 regardless.

  • Here it is:

    Should it be rare or epic?

  • Feedback:

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    AeroJulwin - I think it should be Epic, if you're playing off of Spammy Arcanist.

    MrRhapsody - Multi-Arrows is okay, but it feels weird to me. Too many Keywords, and giving the Lifesteal arrow more power than the other two. Yeah it's the only one that truly matters about the damage, but the arrows should be equal in my opinion. I could see it doing well just because, but I prefer the Sea Witch.

    Wailor - I like this a lot. I did a similar effect in my Kel'thuzad/Lich class, but the Voodoo flavor works very well.

    TheHoax91 - This seems really strong: it's a 3-Mana Mind Control, but you have to give up something. That something will usually be a Battlecry minion or a damaged minion that's now garbage. I would be more comfortable with it if the card was a Legendary, but being able to do this on the cheap twice or more is a lot.

    Demonxz95 - As I said elsewhere, Soul Swap is basically Vol'jin's Hero Power in Battlegrounds; not many points for creativity, but it's very effective and makes sense as a Priest card. I would avoid Tri-Cast Orbs.

    BasilAnguis - The effect is a little wonky, but I see where it's going. "Gift" should probably be capitalized, like how Banana is in Banana Vendor and the like.

    Friendly

  • Feedback:

    BasilAnguis
    I feel like both effects are wildly different on their power level.

    I know removal now is stronger than in the previous era, but I still feel destroy and +1/+1 is too strong, given a 4 mana plain destroy is the baseline (Assassinate).

    If you go with the buff, I think it's severely underpowered, as it's just a much weaker Mark of the Lotus (costs 2 more and you can target up to 3 minions).

    My solution would be to it  cost 4, with 4 "gifts" in total and a destroy threshold at 3 or even 4. This way, it wouldn't be a weaker Mark of the Lotus, since you can target a friendly minion more than twice.

    Demonxz95
    I prefer Soul Swap, even if it's a bit too obvious, as it's BG Vol'jin's HP. Even with this, I think it's a solid candidate for winning.

    Tri-Cast Orbs isn't bad, but it isn't as interesting IMO

    linkblade91
    I struggle to see the applications of this card. Is it meant to be a Silence that doesn't work against Deathrattles? A way to trigger your own Deathrattles without losing the stats? If these are the two only uses, it seems very weak, but I guess there's something I'm missing.

    theHoax91
    This is way too strong. Even with the body, it could easily cost 5 or 6 mana, as it's a Mind Control that requires a token. I'd probably make it cost 6 and give it an Attack-heavy statline (like a 4/2), as its current distribution is pretty much useless at 6 mana.

    MrRhapsody
    Mischievous Sea Witch is my favorite of the two. Having to balance which spell you pick is very fun gameplay IMO. I assume this card only works if both you and your opponent have a minion on play.

    Multi-Arrows is also nice and fits the art very well. Even then, I prefer the other card.

    AeroJulwin
    I don't mind the rarity too much. Even if he's supposed to belong to a cycle with Spammy Arcanist, both Rare and Epic make sense.

    What I would change is the wording. I think "Deal 1 damage to a minion. If it dies, repeat this with 1 more damage." works better.

    • Quote From Wailor

      Feedback:

      linkblade91
      I struggle to see the applications of this card. Is it meant to be a Silence that doesn't work against Deathrattles? A way to trigger your own Deathrattles without losing the stats? If these are the two only uses, it seems very weak, but I guess there's something I'm missing.

      You get to destroy an enemy minion and take its stats for your own; you don't have to destroy your own minion. Have I worded the text poorly? I figured that would be the primary use case: killing two enemy minions and getting two bodies in return.

      Friendly
      • Quote From linkblade91
        Quote From Wailor

        Feedback:

        linkblade91
        I struggle to see the applications of this card. Is it meant to be a Silence that doesn't work against Deathrattles? A way to trigger your own Deathrattles without losing the stats? If these are the two only uses, it seems very weak, but I guess there's something I'm missing.

        You get to destroy an enemy minion and take its stats for your own; you don't have to destroy your own minion. Have I worded the text poorly? I figured that would be the primary use case: killing two enemy minions and getting two bodies in return.

        My bad. I was assuming the Golem would be summoned where the minion was. I think you worded it alright, I just slipped.

  • My own feedback time.

    BasilAnguis
    I love the flexibility this card provides, but the destruction effect is quite strong. It can destroy an enemy minion for 3 mana, and also give one of your own guys +1/+1. Everything is on a different power level.

    Linkblade91
    I'd also say make it cost 8.

    TheHoax91
    As others have mentioned, this is very strong. As long as you have a weak minion to give to your opponent, this is basically just a 3 mana Mind Control. I think this card would be okay if it expensive (and stats were adjusted accordingly), but it's too strong when it's this cheap.

    Wailor

    Zandalari Soulbinder is quite a good use of mechanics. My only concern is how unmistakably similar it is to an already submitted card (though for what it's worth, I think your version is a lot better), and unfortunately the same goes for Darksong Deranger.

    Faceless Trickster is pretty good. I enjoy the flexibility of it. If you need something to fall back on in case you believe the other two cards are too similar to those aforementioned already submitted cards, then this is a pretty solid choice.

    MrRhapsody

    Mischievous Sea Witch feels a bit jumble and unfocused to me. It's not bad, but I do think Multi-Arrows makes better use of the prompt. It seems that MSW is the more favored of your two cards so far, so take that with a grain of salt.

    The only thing that bothers me about Multi-Arrows is the Freeze since Freeze is very much not a Hunter mechanic (and neither is Lifesteal for that matter, but Lifesteal is a much more class-neutral keyword in my opinion, so it gets a pass for me). I do realize that we got Snowed In for Warrior 2 sets ago, but even that card still feels "wrong" to me.

    AeroJulwin

    I love the way this effect plays.

    That said, I do agree that it should be Epic and I also think you should use Wailor's wording.

    Friendly Staff

  • A couple initial ideas. I really like the flavor of Bad Romance, but the effect is admittedly on the basic side. Covetous Shade works nicely with all the stat play Priest has been getting recently, like Switcheroo and some of the Castle Nathria stuff. Lots of cool ideas for the comp so far!

    • Quote From BloodMefist

      A couple initial ideas. I really like the flavor of Bad Romance, but the effect is admittedly on the basic side. Covetous Shade works nicely with all the stat play Priest has been getting recently, like Switcheroo and some of the Castle Nathria stuff. Lots of cool ideas for the comp so far!

      Both are neat, but I prefer Bad Romance. I'd recommend using this art, though:

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  • No inspiration for me so far so I'll probably take the week off. Gotta say your cards look amazing though! So many 5 stars contributions already. Hats off to Demon for suggesting the prompt as well!

  • BloodMefist
    Bad Romance is very funny, but Covetous Shade is a far more interesting card. It seems very fun to play and I particularly like that it can't just swap both stats with the same minion (if I understood that correctly). However, since it's very situational, I think it could be a 1/1.

  • It seens most people already submmited, but here's my feedback for those who haven't.

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    Bloodmefist: Bad Romance is absolutelly hilarious and super flavourful, maybe it should cost 6, but I loved the card nonetheless. And the Shade is nice too, but not as nice the Bad Romance IMO.


    TheHoax91: Not a fan TBH, even with the balance change that others suggested, I'm still not fond of it, it lacks a bit of flavour and boldness IMO.


    Demonx91: The orbs feels more original and bold, so I would normally go for that one, however, Soul Swap is definally safer, and looks like it's everyone's favorite, so I'll say that Soul Swap is good to go.

    BasilAnguis: That's a weird one, in a good sense thought, quite original and flavourful, my suggestion is just to raise the cost and mess with the buffs a little, to give +2/+2 or just +2 Attack, something along these lines.

  • Less than 24 hours left to submit!

    Friendly

  • Good luck to the finalists!

    Friendly

  • Congratulations to BloodMefist!

    We had a three-way tie for second, too :D

    Friendly

  • Congrats to BloodMefist!

  • How about this Shaman's spell