Legends of Runeterra

https://lor.mobalytics.gg/meta-tier-list

So Tf Fizz, and TF Aphelios being both at the very top of S tier is definately a problem one might say.

One combos out for 20 elusive damage the other invokes infinitely until you concede.

This is definately a unhealthy spread of extremes where you on the one hand want to run 3 box's but also want to have otk potential.

Thats not a realistic expectation for 90% of decks out there.

Its enough I would say to discourage ladder players all together for the next two weeks till a balance patch lands.

Hopefully we'll see tweaks for the new cards/champions as well.

We havent seen this level of overrepresentation at top tiers since burn aggro was everywhere and ironically that deck wouldn't be any good now even if they un-nerfed that 1 mana 3/2.

All that being said I'm confident we're gonna see some possitive changes like Riot has done in the past, so let's keep the baby rage to a minimal.

NERF THIS TRASH ! 

https://mobalytics.gg/blog/3-promising-off-meta-lor-decks/

Glad there's more attention being given to the archetypes that have been subtly improved with the new expansion

I'll expand on the list provided in the article with both of us agreeing that bloodletter is fantastic for Vlad

I prefer the healing synergy with vlad soraka, instead of the obvious vlad braum

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The next one is dragon chow, not only does this hyper level Shivana it provides Demacia with cycling tools which is always needed

I usually prefer Shivana Lux to Shivana Asol

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Spiders are just a starter list right...wrong

Thanks to this puppy we now have up to 3 grant effects for our go wide tribal strategy that is insanely good

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Thorn of the rose is everything Yassao needed

The card advantage, the removal, the retreat synergy

It's gotten to the point where you don't need roar anymore

Which is great that card is super situational

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Having Bilgewater be the king of elusives felt wrong

Thankfully ionia got this great tool for strong combo potential

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While jarvan is actually underperforming

This girl is single handedly the best reason to run elites again

Just being able to drop a Garen with challenger is insane

and honored lord is no slouch

You'll notice I still use 1 cythria, I also believe in grant abilities for tibal decks such as reinforcements

Sucession is a flexible 3 drop that empowers passes in situations and off curve plays

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Last but not least we have production surge being a hyper enabler for Heimer level up

Feel free to share your off meta lists down below

It seems to be broken, it just won't play stuff even if it has mana to play stuff, it just won't I see the bot pass a turn with Thresh in hand twice for no apparent reason..

Also the first one almost always skips playing the fleeting spider, wonder it it wants to actually get spell mana, or "play better"

It wasn't like that at first you always saw curve plays no matter what almost all the time.. think they tried to tweak it, or use some ML algorithem but it didn't do well there.

Am I the only one that noticed that?

Man being able to pick for one mana sure makes that a damn good card. I think it may be the best one mana card in the game. It’s a save in numerous occasions. If it was random or the mana cost was higher but as it stands I think it might be the best 1 card in the game. They spell shield to block frost bite give your unit some extra health. 

was this awarded?

So typically the best way to get an accurate reading on how well an archetype is performing you need to check out the region stats.

Because if a deck has a 58% winrate but a play rate of 1% that means its essentially being carried by a few top players.

What we actually see when examining shurima as a whole is that it's essentially maintaining a 51% winrate in its best decks as of right now.

I consider that very healthy and I think this expansion has been far less devisive than call of the mountain.

https://lor.mobalytics.gg/stats/regions

But what do you guys think, are there any lists or decks you consider to be absolute BS right now or are we seeing a healthy mix?

So there are a lot of people making bold statements about what is and isn't op right now during the expansion.

But let's ground things a little with a mobalytics article and I'll break down each list and how I feel about it.

https://mobalytics.gg/blog/best-legends-of-runeterra-decks/

A lot of this is gonna seem obvious extra attacks plus sandmen equals double value and double aggression

Rememberance if a bunch of your tokens are dying you get to cast it for free

Rangers resolve as anti wail/ice shard tech

Rock hopper is supposed to synergize with greenfang warden where you get to utilize barrier to challenge, not sure how reliable that is at 2 a piece

Also ancient preparations will probably get cut it doesn't do anything in this list

But everything else look great.

The thing is though we have so many great aggro lists that this is looking B tier right now

I had said that they who nasus would be a great list during announcement season and here it is

A lot of this list looks super flexible I like the baccai spinners here, trade with your opponents champ to enable slay

3 counters to 1 atrocity is interesting, and again we see a lot of confidence in rock hopper which I don't share

Black spear is great I always thought that card was underated, and thresh gets you the box too

I would say this deck has A tier potential

Hey look it's anivia control without the jank, not much else to say

You just stall and stall and stall till your free 8/8's pop out fresh as daisies

Spectral matron is fun, you play it on rekindler or inquisitor and it levels Lissandra

Honestly just super solid S tier stuff here

So it's ledros control without carina, and without the otk potential of concurrent timelines

I don't think this list makes sense honestly, like all you need is like 1 hush play and this deck is done

I think this list is being carried by surrenders, people just get hard controlled and give up

So veiled Temple Thaliyah with Aphelios is a strong mana cheating list

I really like weight of judgement here card is super undervalued I run it as a 1 of in a lot of decks

Goal is pretty simple stack your buffs on one dude and then infernum for overwhelm

You also get your burn dmg from leveled Thalia 

The only question is, better than TF Aphelios where you get your free 3/4 challengers

Just having deny might make it better, but it looks weak to aggro I see the fangs going down on 4 and its too little too late

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The truth is though a lot of important lists are absent I believe that there is absolutely a very strong Rekton list out there 

I believe that Ash with Leblanc looks absolutely nuts

I think deep should be revisited, along with dragons

The fact a lot of what we are seeing is people just playing shadow isles is not a great sign on the creativity front

and what about Sivr, you can't tell me she's garbage, she has spell shield and quick attack like holly crap

Anyway that's it for me, let me know what you guys think down below.

Like, seriously. They are so freaking annoying to try and deal with. It just feels like a 3 cost 5/2 with quick attack is so freaking busted, and a 4 cost 5/3 with quick attack and spell shield is even more so. And what's even more annoying is their stupid card that allows a 5+ power card to strike a unit for only 4 mana. Like, unless you are playing a full removal deck, you just lose. Idk it just feels like all of my decks do nothing against them, unless they get super unlucky and draw the wrong cards.

All I can say is I can't wait till the next update when they nerf some cards.

what is that?

Any other impact a part leveling up champions?

Since I did a similar threads for the Spirit Blossom and K/DA events I'm just gonna continue the tradition. Hopefully someone will find this useful.

List of regular Runeterra daily quests can be found here.

Repeatable Quest (3 Sun Discs)

• Rise Up
  
  • Win matchmade or AI games (matchmade counts double) (0/6)

Event Questline (5 or 6 Sun Discs)

1. Only the Worthy (5 Sun Discs)
   
   • Seize your destiny and summon Champions (0/8)
2. Claim to Glory (5 Sun Discs)
   
   • Reveal the desert's fortune and spend mana on Shuriman cards (0/150)  OR
   • Spend mana (0/270)
3. Battleborne (5 Sun Discs)
   • Use a single unit to kill multiple enemies in a match (3 or more count triple) (0/10)  OR
   • See more than 3 units die in the same round (0/25)
4. Creation's Judgement (5 Sun Discs)
   
   • Manifest victory by dealing damage with created cards (0/60)  OR
   • Deal damage (0/500)
5. Favored Fighter (5 Sun Discs)
   
   • Summon the same unit at least twice in a match (3 times or more counts triple) (0/10)  OR
   • Summon units (0/90)
6. Favored Incantation (5 Sun Discs)
   
   • Cast the same spell at least twice in a match (3 times or more counts triple) (0/12)  OR
   • Cast spells (0/70)
7. Ascended's Call (5 Sun Discs)
   
   • Answer the desert's calling and level up Shuriman Champions (0/15)  OR
   • Play Champions (0/35)
8. Future Sight (5 Sun Discs)
   
   • Shape your destiny and Predict (0/40)  OR
   • Draw cards (0/165)
9. Sacrificial Bond (5 Sun Discs)
   
   • Prove your faith and deal damage to or slay your own units (kills count triple) (0/90)  OR
   • End rounds with more units than your opponent (0/70)
10. Might of the Desert (6 Sun Discs)
    
    • Show the strength of the sands by dealing damage with Shuriman Champions (0/180)  OR
    • Attack with Champions (0/55)
11. Overkill (6 Sun Discs)
    
    • Assert dominance and overkill the enemy nexus (0/105)  OR
    • Win games with extra nexus health to spare (0/220)
12. Majesty's Reign (6 Sun Discs)
    
    • Celebrate the desert's legacy by playing cards from the Empires of the Ascended set (0/175)  OR
    • Play matchmade games (Wins count triple) (0/40)

Special Quests (4 or 6 Sun Discs)

Seems like there will be one special questline every week.

• Taliyah's Stoneweaving (1 of 2) - 4 Sun Discs
  
  • Call upon the desert's strength and summon landmarks (0/25)  OR
  • Summon units or landmarks (0/80)
• Sivir's Ricochet (2 of 2) - 6 Sun Discs
  
  • Sway the tide of battle by activating Reputation effects (0/30)  OR
  • Attack with units that have 5+ power (0/60)
• Azir's Call (1 of 3) - 4 Sun Discs
  • Grow your army by summoning units with spells and activated effects (0/20)  OR
  • Summon more than 1 unit in a single round (0/45)
• Azir's Ascension (2 of 3) - 6 Sun Discs
  • Restore what was lost and countdown the Sun Disc (0/250)  OR
  • Play rounds (0/200)
• Azir's Might (3 of 3) - 10 Sun Discs and Azir icon
  
  • Discover true power and play cards from the Emperor's Deck after leveling Azir (0/30)  OR
  • Play cards (0/300)
• Nasus' Edict (1 of 3) - 4 Sun Discs
  • Command the desert's wrath and slay enemies with Shuriman units (0/40)  OR
  • Slay enemy units (0/150)
• Nasus' Fearful Reverence (2 of 3) - 6 Sun Discs
  • Expose the enemy by striking their nexus with Fearsome units (0/70)  OR
  • Strike the enemy nexus with units (0/100)
• Nasus' Charge (3 of 3) - 10 Sun Discs and Nasus icon
  
  • Inspire the front lines and raise the power of allies in play (0/65) OR
  • Block with units that have 5+ attack or health (0/100)
• Renekton's Bloodthirst (1 of 3) - 4 Sun Discs
  • Show no mercy by dealing damage to the enemy nexus with Overwhelm units (0/120)  OR
  • Deal nexus damage (0/200)
• Renekton's Dread (2 of 3) - 6 Sun Discs
  • Cull the meek by challenging enemy units (0/70)  OR
  • Strike enemy units (0/200)
• Renekton's Fury (3 of 3) - 10 Sun Discs and Renekton icon
  
  • Channel the desert's rage and deal non-combat damage (0/130) OR
  • Deal damage to units (0/500)

These new cards wow just wow. I know you gotta sell stuff but last time I read you guys were the most profitable gaming company out there and I didn’t even mind giving you my money to buy unnecessary cosmetics. 
This new region seems very overtuned like their cards are just straight up better than what has previously been released. 

Anyone else getting this feeling? Adding another Deny just pushes expensive slow spells to another level of irrelevance. I don’t have a single one in any of my decks. I am tempted to remove all fast spells as well.

I had once said that I didn't mind Targon being strong because it took 3 expansions and a event to get there.

Unfortunately, Shurima doesn't have that card support yet.

When you actually examine what's on offer the number of playables is relatively low.

But the region does have a great lineup of champs to make up for it.

Here's an example of a mono Shurima list made by nobody in particular.

If you look at it people basically have no idea how to build this region right now,

Let's talk about cards that are good - then fine - then bad

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Dune keeper is a good one drop no doubt about it, 2 bodies for 1 levels heck levels azir gives a sac body is aggressive

exhaust is also a core card and is very good

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rock hopper, cryomancer and hourglass are fine but not great

golden ambasador is similarly fine and while it's funny to pull 4/4 TF's it's not worth building a list around

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The 3 drop slot is a little sad in shirima to the point where Azir might be mandatory 

Like quick sand is being run as a worse flash freeze if you think about it

So how do you fix this, well people are running a lot of splash solutions shadow isles, freijord, noxious, targon

While bilgewater, P and Z, Demacia and Ionia are largely going ignored

Suggesting that Shirima doesn't play all that well with others at the moment

But maybe I'm wrong feel free to let me know down below.

My opponent had sivir level 2 with magic shield active and he attacked with this sivir and leblanc that also took the magic shield, but then when i used 2 frostbites made by the magic that cost 1 mana (the three sisters or whatever the name is) the magic shield on leblanc did not disappear and i wasted lot of cards and mana. It did not happened in ranked or normal but on a match with a friend, but i am still mad about it.

Okay here we go with the brews now that all the cards have been released.

We'll feature each new champion once

They Who Nasus

It's your typical kalista shell, while it's true Nasus doesn't have overwhelm he does have spellshield, which is better with atrocity

Also opens you up to use the new shirima deny card to ensure your atrocity hits

Sand monkeys

Plunder triggers for days, pretty easy to play gangplank leveled

The taskmaster will up the dmg of all summoned units in both regions

Frosty Leblanc

How do you guarantee strike value, you play frostbites and draw leblanc off hawk so it doesn't die to TF or shot

everyone in this forum loves midrange frostbite so here ya go

hashtag  me too

want to know how you do 35 dmg you run P and Z so you're removing but also punching with VI

There's also keyword synergy where you give Vi overwhelm or elusive or something funny like that

Stunned And marked for death

The big problem with Kindred is that if you mark a unit for death, they will just attack with it to guarantee value

How do you stop that value, you stun, also allows you to slay and the cycle continues

Landmarks for days

The synergy here is undeniable getting double 8/8's

How you survive till you win well that's up to you

sturdy blades custom made

Will elites finally be top tier, probably with this winning duo

The deck was already pretty close to being playable this will push it the rest of the way

Overwhelming Power

Don't lie you didn't even know that was a vulnerable card that also frostbit

Well that's how you get renekton value easy peasy

That's all the ideas I have right now let me know what you guys think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeqnIu0sAR4

Honestly this is the first deck where you will play Heck leveled every time on 6

While it's true you can't ascend Azir if you splash Shadow Isles

Ask yourself this, does it really matter ;P

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