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Competition Theme: Original Character, Do Not Steal

It's time to revisit some old favourites that have rotated to Wild and give them a brand new twist!

  • You must create a Legendary minion for a Hearthstone Original Character not in Standard
    • Any character that started in Hearthstone counts, including those that eventually made their way into WoW
    • Your character must have been in Standard at some point - adventure characters don't count!

Sothis wants us to celebrate some of the creative new characters introduced in previous Hearthstone expansions - let's get Wild!

As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

  • Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Dec 14 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sat, Dec 19 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
  • Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Dec 19 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sun, Dec 20 16:00 EST (GMT -0500)
  • Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Dec 20 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Mon, Dec 21 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
  • Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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  • Competition Theme: Original Character, Do Not Steal

    It's time to revisit some old favourites that have rotated to Wild and give them a brand new twist!

    • You must create a Legendary minion for a Hearthstone Original Character not in Standard
      • Any character that started in Hearthstone counts, including those that eventually made their way into WoW
      • Your character must have been in Standard at some point - adventure characters don't count!

    Sothis wants us to celebrate some of the creative new characters introduced in previous Hearthstone expansions - let's get Wild!

    As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.

    Competition Phases

    Here are the phases of this card design competition

    • Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Dec 14 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sat, Dec 19 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
    • Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Dec 19 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sun, Dec 20 16:00 EST (GMT -0500)
    • Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Dec 20 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Mon, Dec 21 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
    • Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

    Discussion Thread Rules

    No thread rules were added to this season. Please populate and manually edit this thread with them.

  • He's back to being in charge!

    Or rather, in a rush.

     

    EDIT: Added Whizbang the Whimsical

    If you want to play some Hearthstone, but don't know which deck to play, Whizbang's got your back. He'll also add a little bit of fun as you'll get random decks each game. Compared to his original counterpart, his utility is that he will always choose decks you have (and are therefore of higher average quality), but won't allow you to use cards you don't own. He functions as a "random deck" button for when you enter Ranked mode.

    Whizbang cannot choose:

    • Another Whizbang deck.
    • A Zayle deck.
    • An incomplete deck.
    • A Wild deck if you're playing Standard.

    If you have no valid decklists for it to choose, then you won't be able to use his ability.

    Friendly Staff

  • A new version of Lynessa Sunsorrow, one of my favorite Hearthstone-original characters:

    I sort of flipped Lynessa's effect: now instead of greedily taking all of the spells for herself, she has matured as a person and taken up a front-line position where she shares spells with her allies. I gave her +4/+4 over her original iteration because A. she would suck otherwise, and B. it looks like she has Blessing of Kings over her head :D

    Friendly

  • Just to clarify - the character has to be originally created in Hearthstone,  not one that originally appeared in WoW but was eventually depicted in Hearthstone.  So characters like Vol'jin or Ozruk aren't allowed, is that right?

    This link might be helpful for people who aren't as familiar with WoW lore - https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Original_cards_in_Hearthstone

    • Quote From grumpymonk

      Just to clarify - the character has to be originally created in Hearthstone,  not one that originally appeared in WoW but was eventually depicted in Hearthstone.  So characters like Vol'jin or Ozruk aren't allowed, is that right?

      This link might be helpful for people who aren't as familiar with WoW lore - https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Original_cards_in_Hearthstone

      Correct: the characters must have originated in Hearthstone first, although they might have migrated to WoW later on (like, say, Elise, Reno, and Sir Finley).

      I was meaning to post that link :)

      Friendly

  • Not really convinced by any of these but whatevs.

    AF Kay's effect is basically a custom card I made years ago based on one friend who is always late btw 🙂

    • You could potentially use the Dormant keyword for A F Kay.  Or you could give her a slightly different effect like "When summoned, this minion can not attack the following turn."  So it's like she's there, but can't do anything the turn after you play her.  Doing this would give the opponent the chance to trade though, but same would be true how you have it now or with Dormant once she wakes and has summoning sickness for a turn.

      Given how aggressive AF Kay is once she starts paying attention in the solo content, you could make her a 2 mana 4/4 with "Dormant. Charge."  Too much?

  • First time participating in one of these.

    It's basically the Murozond the Infinite (one of my favorite cards ever) effect but based on what you played instead of your opponent's. It can be really strong in response to an opponent's board clears. One example of a powerful use: you play Kalecgos and a strong spell at 10 mana (let's say, Power of Creation). Then your opponent manages to clear everything. Now, you can play Toki, Time Manipulator and she will replay those two cards for free. You get a Kalecgos (without the battlecry, obviously), two random 6-cost minions, a 6/6, you have two mana left and, since you haven't played a spell yet, you can use a spell for free (because of Kalecgos). That's a big swing. It also fits with Toki's original gimmick (which was getting cards from the past) but, instead of adding them to your hand, you get them on the board immediately. Her stats are weaker than Murozond's because you have more control over the effect.

  • Initial ideas:

    Stats of Jade Golems Kun summoned vaires by player, if your oppnent have't summoed any this game, then the stats of their golems will start by 1/1, and then 2/2, 3/3... and yours gonna coutinue with the stats you have achieved. Don't know if it will work like that for this text, any suggestion on text?

    Shudderwock can gain keywords and other special effects like the one from Cobalt Scalebane for example.

    * Edited the text and name of Shudderwock

  • Oh, yeah.

    edit: Added Flark.

    Feedback (feel free to contest etc.):

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    Demonxz95

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    CP — -1 star for idea (I think it’s just too bland), so 4/5

    WW — obviously not going to be rated by balance, but this card honestly has no point. You’d get the same effect doing eenie meenie miney mo with your deck slots. 1/5

    linkblade91

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    LtV — 5/5. Love the “character development” flavor, especially since she was supposed to be kind of an antagonist on K&C’s narrative

    Wailor

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    AFK — -2 stars for critical fail on idea (really don’t see how “dormant for 1 turn” is legendary worthy), so 3/5.

    SCS — -1 star for idea (again, I could see this effect on a rare no problem), -1 star for aesthetics (Saraad isn’t really the character for this flavor), so 3/5

    MtM — -1 star for balance (control deck survived your Murlocs? Well not anymore), so 4/5

    SLima

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    TTM — 5/5. Probably some broken combo somewhere in the deep reaches of deckbuilding, but I don’t see any so I don’t care

    fungusABao

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    KtJK — -2 stars for critical fail on idea (pretty sure that’s not that works. If you summoned them, they’ll have the buffs, no matter what your opponent did), -1 star for aesthetics (art looks very unhearthstoney), so 2/5

    StD — -2 stars for critical fail on aesthetics (missing a " at the end of the title, gains*, Shudderwock really doesn’t have anything to do with Dragons), -2 stars for critical fail on balance (that’s broken af), so 1/5

    • Quote From DestroyerR

      WW — obviously not going to be rated by balance, but this card honestly has no point. You’d get the same effect doing eenie meenie miney mo with your deck slots. 1/5

      Every time you do that though, you have to stop and play eenie meenie miney mo with yourself after each game.

      With this new Whizbang, you can just start a new game immediately after the previous one ends and get a completely random deck. It's a more streamlined approach.

      Friendly Staff
      • Quote From Demonxz95
        Quote From DestroyerR

        WW — obviously not going to be rated by balance, but this card honestly has no point. You’d get the same effect doing eenie meenie miney mo with your deck slots. 1/5

        Every time you do that though, you have to stop and play eenie meenie miney mo with yourself after each game.

        With this new Whizbang, you can just start a new game immediately after the previous one ends and get a completely random deck. It's a more streamlined approach.

        But the slightly more convenient random deck mode doesn’t justify designing an entire legendary around it. That issue should be solved by adding a “random” button, not a Legendary minion

  • Art for this challenge is going to be tough...a lot of the O.C.s just have their original card art, and maybe a single piece of concept art from an expansion reveal video. I guess it's okay to reuse that art, but typically a new version of any character comes with new art.

  • Quite frankly I have no idea how legal this is but Krizgut is apparently a character that was only mentioned in HS so eh?

  • Okay, I've found an idea I'm quite satisfied with, but I'm not sure if the execution is right.

    Same stats as The Boogeymonster, but has now Rush to make use of his effect right away. Since it has a Steal/Silence effect, I gave it to Priest.

    I'll try to give feedback later.

  • Some initial ideas. I believe some of then need some balances.

    https://i.ibb.co/2vFwCQm/38819ec4.png

  • To clarify, since I've seen some designs here that won't fit, we're specifically looking for characters that have already had playable cards (or were tokens like Amara, Warden of Hope). The various characters from adventures wouldn't count, since they were never in Standard - we're looking for a new interpretation, not a completely original card.

    I'm updating the rules to note this too.

    • Quote From ShadowsOfSense

      To clarify, since I've seen some designs here that won't fit, we're specifically looking for characters that have already had playable cards (or were tokens like Amara, Warden of Hope). The various characters from adventures wouldn't count, since they were never in Standard - we're looking for a new interpretation, not a completely original card.

      I'm updating the rules to note this too.

      Well there goes my hope of Krizgut oh well back to the board

       

  • So the gimmick is that Sherazin eats the minion like that shark guy and I made the dormant state an aura so you cant bounce it and lock a slot.

  • Baku the Mooneater

    Priest can reduce the cost of the cards in recent versions, it is coooool.

  • Does anyone know if Clutchmother Zavas was an HS original character? If so, I came up with a good idea for her. 

    • Quote From CursedParrot

      Does anyone know if Clutchmother Zavas was an HS original character? If so, I came up with a good idea for her. 

      Unfortunately she is not an original Hearthstone character :( She is a mob from WoW.

      Friendly

  • This is a though one regarding art and knowledge about Hearthstone Characters :) 

    This is my first Idea:

    Let me know what you guys think.

  • Rebump + Feedback

    Feedback:

    Demonxz95

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    I agree with DestroyerR in that Whizbang the Whimsical would make more sense as a Random Deck button.

    Captain Patches is a bit bland, but ultimately quite alright and definetly more balanced than his first incarnation.

    linkblade91

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    Very interesting twist on Lynessa Sunsorrow, both flavor and gameplay-wise.

    SLima

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    Very solid card, especially considering it's your first competition. This is a very minor suggestion, but I'd recommend using a different watermark, so that it doesn't coexist with her previous incarnation (although it would make sense in Toki's case).

    fungusabao

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    Kun, the Jade King is a bit weird, since as it is, it would be replacing himself as the MSG Druid legendary. I know this is technically allowed, but it goes against the point of the comp.

    Shudderwock, the "Dragon is cool, although it is missing a " in his name. I've always wondered why this thing looks like a dragon so much, yet isn't one. That said, it's a very dangerous design, which is very diffcult to balance and thus people might not like it (this issue affects the original Shudderwock as well, however)

    DestroyerR

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    Baku, the Eldritch's effect is too dangerous IMO :(

    Flark, Expert Bombmaker, on the other hand, has a very flavorful effect and requires very strategic gameplay. I like it quite a lot.

    DavnanKillder

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    First of all, the artwork of all your cards doesn't fit Hearthstone style, so I'd try to find better ones.

    I'm not sure how is Puppeter Dorian (should be Puppeteer) is supposed to work, but right now it would summon a full-sized minion with no effects, since the Silence would nullify the 1/1 enchantment.

    The Face Collector is definetly your coolest idea, but his name is too similar to his first incarnation (Face Collector). My best idea is Face Swapper, but it isn't great either.

    Finally, Queen Ashmore would be a bit better if her tokens had Rush, Lifesteal or a Deathrattle, since those are the keywords the original Countess Ashmore had synergy with. That said, I'd still prefer The Face Collector even with this change.

    MenacingBagel

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    I get that she induces Dormant to callback her original version, but if the flavor is that she eats her target, the effect Moat Lurker has but with the bonus stats would make more sense.

    bangyakunoSquash

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    Very interesting twist on Baku the Mooneater's original effect. I see a couple things to improve: her name (the current one is a bit lame for my taste) and her lack of watermark.

    FieselFitz

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    The card itself isn't bad, but I don't like the usage of the Jade Golem mechanic outside of MSG. The other alternative would be to have this card replace the original Aya Blackpaw, but I don't like that either… I would personally save this effect for another competition (which would make a lot of sense as a Druid legendary for MSG) and try something else.

  • This prompt has really stumped me.  I thought about doing a retake on reverse Da Undatakah, with a deathrattle that repeats battlecries, but that goes infinite with Carnival Clown. Also tried doing Azari, but the summoning conditions felt too contrived.  Thus, I landed on returning everyone's favorite ghost pupper, Arfus, which was surprisingly difficult to find art for.

    Initial thought is that the mana might be too high or stats too low for how slow the effect is, but I think it might be alright given its infinite value.  I think the best comparison might be with Dragonrider Talritha, which has a similar effect (Deathrattle: Give 'x/x' stats and continue the deathrattle), but is cheaper and higher stats at the expense of being a class card and dragon restriction.

    Now that the first wave of my grad apps are done, I might be able to get to feedback this week x_x

  • Oh hey, I can finally give feedback now.

    Linkblade91
    A really clever usage of the art and prompt. It might be too difficult to use effectively though since you will only have 3 mana to cast spells on and it is reliant on having a full board. That said, if you do have that board, Blessing of Might can seal the game for you.

    Wailor
    A.F.Kay is not a valid submission since adventure characters don't count (I know you made it really early where the rule may not have been established clearly yet, just feedback for the same of complete feedback).

    Saraad is fairly alright, although I feel like you'd rather just use Soulwarden instead and nothing about him really captures the same feeling as the original Saraad.

    Megafin looks kinda cool. Murlocs are not really meant to be a late-game tribe, but this perhaps allows some weird late-game Murloc decks to exist. My only gripe is the sense of scale as the Murloc in the art does not look very big, although finding good art is probably quite difficult, so I can't fault you too much for this one.

    I feel very mixed about people who use their own edited art for comps since it does present a disadvantage for people who aren't familiar with these programs. That said, I would be a hypocrite if I criticized you for doing it as I did it myself during the "Manual of Monsters" comp, and the art is pretty funny as well. Unlike the original Boogeymonster, it's actually not complete shit either. It's not *great*, but it's definitely not horrible.

    Overall, I'd say Megafin is probably my favorite of your cards.

    SLima
    I will echo what Wailor said about the watermark. It doesn't really make sense for this card to be introduced in the same set as the original Toki. Other than that though, the rest of the card seems fine. You could probably just called it "Infinite Toki" since that's the art you used.

    FungusABao

    Kun seems okay, but it's very weird for him to be the in the same set as the original Kun. Although at the same time, a different set wouldn't allow for Jade Golem synergies, so there's a bit of a dilemma there.

    Shudderwock is okay, although it's a bit difficult to use since most Dragons are designed to be big and have strong Battlecries. Neither of which really go well with this card.

    DestroyerR
    Baku is kinda neat, although I agree with Wailor in that it's definitely too dangerous to print. Flark's effect is really cool, and it'd definitely get a lot of creativity points.

    MenacingBagel

    Unfortunately, Krizgut is not a valid character to use since it was never a card at any point. That said, you could perhaps still use the effect for something, so it's worth keeping. I won't mention the watermark since it's not really necessary on a card that won't be used anyway.

    I like Sherazin better anyway, although I feel like Maiev usually accomplishes what you want to do with this card better unless you use it on your own minions.

    DavnanKillder

    Dorian has a strange art perspective as the most visible character in the art appears to be the doll and not Dorian himself, unless… that is Dorian? The effect seems pretty flavorful and on point too, although I feel like it may overlap too much with The Nameless One which we just got.

    The Face Collector is an okay card, but the name feels really lazy and the effect could backfire.

    Queen Ashmore is not bad, but it doesn't seem to have any connection with the original card.

    BangyakunoSquash
    Baku has a creative effect, although the artwork seems more draconic than bestial.

    CursedParrot
    I can't really say much since Zavas is not a valid character for the prompt. That said, the effect seems creative. On the other hand, it feels really weird for this version to exist one set after the original.

    FieselFitz
    Seems a bit OP since you can summon 5 Jade Golems with this at once. I do also agree with Wailor in that you shouldn't use Jade Golems outside of MSoG.

    BloodMefist
    Arfus is a pretty "out there" character to use for this prompt, so points for originality! The effect seems good and flavorful as well. Compared to Val'anyr, Greybough, or Talritha, it doesn't seem to be too problematic.

    Friendly Staff

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    BloodMefist - Arfus seems fine, balance-wise. I'm not a fan of the art, but this will be a difficult week for such things so I understand.

    Wailor - The Boogeymonster is garbage, so anything better than that is alright in my book lel. "(T)he Kidnapper" is a weird direction to take him, and Priest is especially weird flavor-wise, but mechanically it makes sense…I think? There are no Priest minions with Rush, IIRC, unless you count that one Lackey. I like the effect well enough, but the package as a whole is a hard sell.

    FieselFitz - I would not summon Jade Golems outside of Mean Streets of Gadgetzan, personally, but a one-off callback isn't entirely out of the question. She doesn't use up the Mana, though, so this might be a powerful turn-10 play considering you still have 5 mana left to play with.

    bangyakunoSquash - Welcome to the Fan Creations side of things, and with your first post too :D Cool art for the card, with the moon in there and everything. The name is weird, though, and there appears to be no watermark behind the text. The gameplay is neat, at least.

    MenacingBagel - I'm not a fan of Sherazin because it seems to take away from what makes Gral, the Shark and Maiev Shadowsong special :( It's neat in its own way, but might not survive long given the amount of removal lying around at the moment.

    DavnanKillder - Face Collector was originally a Rogue minion, so the new iteration being a Shaman minion is suspect. I also agree with Demon in-that Dorian is too close to The Nameless One mechanically-speaking. That leaves Ashmore; the Battlecry should probably say "Discover a Royal Servant to summon.", but beyond that it seems good.

    DestroyerR - Flark is cool and interesting, but isn't there an adventure boss fight that does the same thing? I could've sworn there was, anyway. Either-way, I'd go with him; seems like strong finalist material.

    fungusABao - I will echo what others have said about Kun, being from the same set as the original. Shudderwock is inherently interesting, but fundamentally flawed because Dragons are mostly about their Battlecries. I think if you change him to embrace this quality - without just rehashing his original Battlecry - you'd have a strong card. But don't name him "the Dragon" and then not make him a Dragon lol :P

    SLima - We always like to see new faces :D I think the effect is really cool; my only complaint is that she should not be from the same set as the original Toki. Change that, and I think you're well on your way to finalist material.

    Wailor - Giving a Warlock version of Saraad the title of "Soul Collector" but not making him related to Soul Fragments seems like a disconnect, personally. He could be something like a DH/Warlock card that says "Whenever you use your Hero Power, shuffle a Soul Fragment into your deck." That would be cool, and callback to his Inspire effect. As your cards currently stand, though, I would go with Megafin.

    Demonxz95 - We don't have a "Play a Random Deck" functionality, so I like Whizbang. Having to own him for that is a bit of a bummer, but then again so was having to own the original Whizbang.

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      Wailor - The Boogeymonster is garbage, so anything better than that is alright in my book lel. "(T)he Kidnapper" is a weird direction to take him, and Priest is especially weird flavor-wise, but mechanically it makes sense...I think? There are no Priest minions with Rush, IIRC, unless you count that one Lackey. I like the effect well enough, but the package as a whole is a hard sell.

      I was a bit afraid the flavor wouldn't be understood, but it was my main focus actually :/ In fact, I thought of the flavor first and the effect last.

      Okay, so the Boogey Man and similar folklore characters do either one of these two things: eat children or kidnap them. Since the previous incarnation of The Boogeymonster was focused on eating, I decided to make a new one based on kidnapping.

      I agree that it is a bit weird in Priest flavor-wise, but I don't think it comes close to Micro Mummy being a Paladin card levels of weird xD

  • This prompt was really tough to find a good idea for, but I came up with an idea for a Nefarian card I was really proud of. Then I realized I couldn't use Nefarian so I took a day and came up with something else.

    I did the both hands to fit with the both players draw of the original Genzo, the Shark. I don't know if it really fits Genzo but the art looks close enough and I couldn't come up with other ideas so here we are.

    Feedback time (I'm reviewing the cards whether or not they fit the rules):

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    BloodMefist: I think it's a good power level, annoying for your opponent to deal with without being ridiculous. I like it.

    Wailor: The Boogeymonster is finally playable! I like it, good effect that fits the class.

    FieselFits: I'm not feeling it in the current state, since once you get to 10 mana it's a 5 mana board fill. If you're gonna use this design at least change it so it spends the unspent mana to summon the Jade Golems.

    CursedParrot: It's a good effect, but I feel like the statline really doesn't benefit it since it'll probably die on the next turn (also fix it to "random discarded card").

    bangyakunoSquash: Good effect, but the benefit is mixed by the odd requirement because now you have to have an exact amount of reduces to be usable.

    MenacingBagel: This is a cool one and a good twist on Sherazin. The only recommendation I'd give is to change the wording a bit to "It stays Dormant while you control this".

    DavnanKillder: The wording on Puppeter (Puppeteer?) Dorian doesn't clarify if it summons a silenced 1/1 copy or a 1/1 copy then silences the original. You'll have to change the name of the Face Collector to differentiate it more from the original. Queen Ashmore is the best out of the three IMO.

    DestroyerR: Baku the Eldritch is a really weird one but I think it could lead to some really interesting deck design. Flark is an issue because if you summon the wires for yourself there's nothing your opponent can really do to stop it.

    fungusABao: Kun could work well if it only affected your own minions, but after you reach a certain stat then playing him could give your opponent lethal if they have anything on board. Shudderwock could work, but why doesn't he have a Dragon tag?

    SLima: Toki is really powerful, but I think the random targets helps balance it out. Well done.

    linkblade91: I think the effect is powerful enough to warrent knocking it down to a 4/4 or 3/3.

    Demonxz95: I'd go with Captain Patches, it's a good effect and a reason to play Pirate decks. Also if you go with Whizband, change the name: that artwork is not at all whimsical.

  • I was not very happy with some of the cards and after the feedback decides to dump them and keep only the Face Collector one. 

    Made some changes in the art and in the name (that in was pretty difficult, how do you give a name to something that don't have a identity?) and made a new one with Myra.

    Some feedback tomorrow.

  • @Hordaki Wouldn't be better "All cards in both players hand with Corrupt are now Corrupted" 

  • Since my first idea or at least the Jade Ability wasn't liked that much i came up with something else.

     

    That's the new card - let me know what you guys think!

  • Feedback time!

     

    FieselFitz

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    Kragg is simple, strong and flavorful, great job.

    Like some people said, Aya was a great idea and very powerful (in turn 10 is 20/20 in status), but Jade Golems was something exclusive from MSoG, so seeing this in another set is a bit off.

    Hordaki

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    Liked the idea, but can be very powerful in a build around deck ir if your opponent don't have cards with Corrupt in hand/deck. , Maybe change his cost to 6 or 7 IMO.

    BloodMefist

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    A 2/2 for 4 seens a little weak, but when you think that he's semi imortal ans can be preety anoying in a aggro deck, makes sense. Maybe changing to 4/3/2 or 4/3/1 can make him looks more appealing.

    Wailor

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    AMAZING flavor to Boogey. To me, its ready to go.

    AFK seems weak. a 3/4 for 2 who has "Dormant 1" is not good. Maybe if she is a 4/5 for 3 or something like that can be good.

    Soul Collector is very good, Megafin is scary, but for 9 mana I think is ok. Im my opinion, Boogey is the best by a mile.

    CursedParrot

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    Interesting idea if the idea was to add cards with a Discard Effect. Sad that she's not a original character =/.

    bangyakunoSquash

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    I believe you submited already, but I liked the card. A Odd setup (pun intended) for a powerful effect.

    MenacingBagel

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    Locking a enemy space seems very annoying and powerful, the sorta of thing that I liked, so 5 of 5 to me hahaha. Maybe consider changing the text only to something like "Make a minion Dormant and gain his stats while this is on board."

    Liked Krisgut, but Sherazin is the one IMO.

    DestroyerR

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    Baku seems interesting with a combo-ish potential, but seems a little unfair because your oponnent cannot interact with the effect, sounds like a Hemet with ultra steroids to a potential combo deck.  I would consider changing the payoff or altering to a Battlecry.

    Loved Flark, but again, its not interactive. Maybe change the whires to a 0/5 minion or something like that.

    fungusABao

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    Like FieselFitz Aya, Jade Golems not in MSoG seems strange. Besides that, Mass Destruction is not a druid thing.
    Shudderwock seems weak to me. It's a 6/6 for 6 that no affect the board and need you to play a dragon to maybe generate some value, because will only be good with good non-Battlecry effects, Keywords or Deathrattle dragons.  Much if to make it be not a 6/6 vanilla.

    SLima

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    Simple and good. Maybe change to only speel to resoate more with the Mage class. Besides that, very good job.

    linkblade91

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    I think the effect can be made a Spellburst. Paladin has a bunch of low-curve buffs and the Libram thing, so do that everytime seens a overkill.

    Demonxz95

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    Go charge them Captain!

  • I came up with this for Sonya Shadowdancer.  Seems breakable, but I haven't found anything too ridiculous so far.

  • I'm sorry but I have too much work this week to participate in the discussion. I did submit the first halfway good idea I had and will cast my votes, though. Good luck to everyone! 

  • Testing out some better art or naming since I think the card is otherwise pretty good to go.  Speaking of feedback, I finally post some (sorry for late)!

    SLima:

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    I feel like this card could be dangerous just as a '3-of' for any big value generators.  Any spell that summons big minions, board clears, or generates value is guaranteed to be good.  That said, it does create some potentially interesting play-around turns where the opponent knows exactly what will occur if you do play her.  I think its ultimately fine and a cool design for sure, but bumping up the cost and stats to compensate is a good conservative change.

    fungusABao:

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    Honestly not a huge fan of either of these designs.  Kun is clunky and a late game mega-bomb in the right circumstances.  Shudder needs a better name and the text is also clunky.  Shudderwock is very grounded in Battlecry mechanics in every iteration and should stay as such.

    MenacingBagel:

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    I dig the Sherazin effect, although I'm on the fence about whether or not Sherazin is the right character for it.  I will say that I think you should play it safe and go for the Voraxx instead, since Sherazin is technically in WoW.  I also think the wording of the second sentence could be changed to 'It awakens when this leaves the board.' to be more consistent with other Dormant cards.

    DavnanKillder:

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    Face is established as a Rogue character, so making it Shaman doesn't fit.  That said, Bamboozle does set a precedent for 'evolve' mechanics in Rogue.  I like the idea of Myra, but I'm afraid that Necrium Bomb might be too spooky of a card.  Spiritspeaker Umbra cost 4 for the same effect and still enabled some crazy stuff.  Admittedly Rogue could use some Deathrattle love, so I think adjusting Myra to be just a battlecry and buffing her back to 4/2 could be a fine alteration.

    CursedParrot:

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    Zavas unfortunately is not Hearthstone exclusive.  "Discard card" also isn't a phrase that is properly established in the game, does it refer to cards that do something when they're discarded, cards that discarded, both?  KofT would also be too early of a set to put her in since it's immediately after the OG card.

    FieselFitz:

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    Blackpaw was way too busted and I think people still hold a negative bias against Jade in general.  A version of Kragg is in standard so he unfortunately does not qualify for the contest.  You could try to port the effect or a similar one to Captain Hooktusk, but I know that I at least have a negative view towards anything 'Charge.'

    Hordaki:

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    I like seeing Genzo get some love, but this card is super spooky.  High cost corrupt cards like Carnival Clown are balanced around being difficult to corrupt and this can severely push them over.  An on curve clown or Tickatus could be devastating and feel really bad to play against. If you really like this effect, I would say maybe bump up the cost to 5 and/or make it a class card.

    grumpymonk:

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    Minions straight up costing 1 is way too dangerous, and the "downside" isn't even always a negative. Costing x less maybe, but even that can be dangerous.

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      FieselFitz:

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      Blackpaw was way too busted and I think people still hold a negative bias against Jade in general.  A version of Kragg is in standard so he unfortunately does not qualify for the contest.  You could try to port the effect or a similar one to Captain Hooktusk, but I know that I at least have a negative view towards anything 'Charge.'

       

      Why exactly does he not count? The rules stated:

       

      You must create a Legendary minion for a Hearthstone Original Character not in Standard

      • Any character that started in Hearthstone counts, including those that eventually made their way into WoW
      • Your character must have been in Standard at some point - adventure characters don't count!

       

      The one in standard (the General) is not the Captain it was before and the Fallen One i made is also a different version. It isn't stated anywhere that we cannot choose a character that has another version in standard right now ??!

      It's ok if you're not a fan of cards with Charge, but to simply dislike it because it has Charge is in my opinion not fair. 

      I'll see what others have to say and maybe i will change it again.

      Thx for the feedback tough.

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        FieselFitz:

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        Blackpaw was way too busted and I think people still hold a negative bias against Jade in general.  A version of Kragg is in standard so he unfortunately does not qualify for the contest.  You could try to port the effect or a similar one to Captain Hooktusk, but I know that I at least have a negative view towards anything 'Charge.'

         

        Why exactly does he not count? The rules stated:

         

        You must create a Legendary minion for a Hearthstone Original Character not in Standard

        • Any character that started in Hearthstone counts, including those that eventually made their way into WoW
        • Your character must have been in Standard at some point - adventure characters don't count!

         

        The one in standard (the General) is not the Captain it was before and the Fallen One i made is also a different version. It isn't stated anywhere that we cannot choose a character that has another version in standard right now ??!

        It's ok if you're not a fan of cards with Charge, but to simply dislike it because it has Charge is in my opinion not fair. 

        I'll see what others have to say and maybe i will change it again.

        Thx for the feedback tough.

        The thing is, the captain Kragg is in standard in a new version named Sky Gen'ral Kragg.

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          FieselFitz:

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          Blackpaw was way too busted and I think people still hold a negative bias against Jade in general.  A version of Kragg is in standard so he unfortunately does not qualify for the contest.  You could try to port the effect or a similar one to Captain Hooktusk, but I know that I at least have a negative view towards anything 'Charge.'

           

          Why exactly does he not count? The rules stated:

           

          You must create a Legendary minion for a Hearthstone Original Character not in Standard

          • Any character that started in Hearthstone counts, including those that eventually made their way into WoW
          • Your character must have been in Standard at some point - adventure characters don't count!

           

          The one in standard (the General) is not the Captain it was before and the Fallen One i made is also a different version. It isn't stated anywhere that we cannot choose a character that has another version in standard right now ??!

          It's ok if you're not a fan of cards with Charge, but to simply dislike it because it has Charge is in my opinion not fair. 

          I'll see what others have to say and maybe i will change it again.

          Thx for the feedback tough.

          The thing is, the captain Kragg is in standard in a new version named Sky Gen'ral Kragg.

          Yes and like i said above , the rules did not state that we cannot use a card that is in standard right now - and it's not the same (General and Captain) - it's a new version.

          But i'll guess i have to change it even tough the rules for the competition did not say it wasn't allowed...

  • No time to wait for feedback, so I threw in an entry with recycled art. At least it's something and I liked my idea (Lyra, the Descended).

  • Got another Idea and i think this will be the one i go with because this time the Card has no copy in standard and should work according to the rules ;)

    The Effect should work like Rattlegore but only upwards. Not sure if i should set a cap at 10/10 - and if i do so how i should phrase it?

    (up to 10) for example or should it be (up to 10/10). Or is it ok without a Cap ?

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      Got another Idea and i think this will be the one i go with because this time the Card has no copy in standard and should work according to the rules ;)

      The Effect should work like Rattlegore but only upwards. Not sure if i should set a cap at 10/10 - and if i do so how i should phrase it?

      (up to 10) for example or should it be (up to 10/10). Or is it ok without a Cap ?

      Even with a cap of 10, it's still very OP. Play this on turn 1, and you're basically set for the whole game

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        Got another Idea and i think this will be the one i go with because this time the Card has no copy in standard and should work according to the rules ;)

        The Effect should work like Rattlegore but only upwards. Not sure if i should set a cap at 10/10 - and if i do so how i should phrase it?

        (up to 10) for example or should it be (up to 10/10). Or is it ok without a Cap ?

        Even with a cap of 10, it's still very OP. Play this on turn 1, and you're basically set for the whole game

        True ... should it be enough to increase the Mana or is the Abilitiy to strong?

        Could also make it to "resummon with +1/+0 so the health would stay at 1 mana

         

        First change (changed Mana cost)

        or this one (changed ability to just increase the attack)

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          Got another Idea and i think this will be the one i go with because this time the Card has no copy in standard and should work according to the rules ;)

          The Effect should work like Rattlegore but only upwards. Not sure if i should set a cap at 10/10 - and if i do so how i should phrase it?

          (up to 10) for example or should it be (up to 10/10). Or is it ok without a Cap ?

          Even with a cap of 10, it's still very OP. Play this on turn 1, and you're basically set for the whole game

          True ... should it be enough to increase the Mana or is the Abilitiy to strong?

          Could also make it to "resummon with +1/+0 so the health would stay at 1 mana

           

          First change (changed Mana cost)

          or this one (changed ability to just increase the attack)

          Even with a Mana increase, I compare to pre-nerf Dreadsteed and foresee some problems.

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  • @FieselFitz I didn't mean to turn you off completely from Kragg and I misread the prompt, thinking that they couldn't have a current iteration in standard to prevent more overlap with E.V.I.L or LoE.  I thought Kragg could use a tweak or two but that the idea as a whole was still good.  For Pyros I think an effect of shuffling back into your deck with increased stats/decreased cost could be interesting to utilize Mage's draw engines and Elemental synergy.

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      @FieselFitz I didn't mean to turn you off completely from Kragg and I misread the prompt, thinking that they couldn't have a current iteration in standard to prevent more overlap with E.V.I.L or LoE.  I thought Kragg could use a tweak or two but that the idea as a whole was still good.  For Pyros I think an effect of shuffling back into your deck with increased stats/decreased cost could be interesting to utilize Mage's draw engines and Elemental synergy.

      Thx - a shuffle mechanic could balance the card but i think i will stay with Kragg for the Competiton.

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    BloodMefist - I like Arfus the Eternal the most, both in name and art.

    grumpymonk - I like Sonya. She can't be used to mana-cheat too much because the minions return to your hand before they get to attack, so it's all about the Battlecries/Comboes. Sonya Shadowdancer had better synergy with Deathrattles, but it's still a good second-take on her original playstyle :)

    FieselFitz - I think there was some "spirit of the theme" intention for us to not use characters that have already received a new interpretation, but that was not explicitly written in the rules so Kragg the Fallen should be fine (it is with me, at least). I'd stick with him over Pyros: your Pyros is really hard to balance well, whereas Kragg is a good callback to the original card.

    DavnanKillder - The One of Many Faces has the same problem I had with the original (with Face Collector being a Rogue minion). Myra, though, I like a lot more. The return of Spiritsinger Umbra's effect is interesting, although it takes away from her specialness a bit. Also flavor-wise I'm not sure how a "bomb" triggers friendly Deathrattles. But, as I said, I like Myra.

    Hordaki - I think Genzo is weird. What's the use-case here? You can Corrupt your higher-cost cards without playing something more expensive, sure, but you would automatically Corrupt the lower ones just by playing Genzo. With the cards needing to be in your hand, and giving the same effect to your opponent, I just think the usage of Genzo is way too niche to warrant playing :(

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  • Less than four hours left to submit; better hurry if you want to participate! :P

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  • Fair warning, I am going to rate  Kragg 1 star since it breaks the rules IMO 

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      Fair warning, I am going to rate  Kragg 1 star since it breaks the rules IMO 

      I cannot change your mind even tough he does not break the rules - i even asked and it isn't stated that it wasn't allowed but ok ... 

      Wasn't expecting to get to the finals with him anyway because of the feedback but i liked the card so i went with it.

       

      Good luck to everyone who made it to the finals.

       

      I personaly like flavour-focus themes but this one was a little harder because of the art and knowledge about character background but it was still fun.

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        Fair warning, I am going to rate  Kragg 1 star since it breaks the rules IMO 

        I cannot change your mind even tough he does not break the rules - i even asked and it isn't stated that it wasn't allowed but ok ...

        I’m not debating whether it’s going to get disqualified or not, I’m saying that I think it’s very clearly going against the idea of the prompt

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          Fair warning, I am going to rate  Kragg 1 star since it breaks the rules IMO 

          I cannot change your mind even tough he does not break the rules - i even asked and it isn't stated that it wasn't allowed but ok ...

          I’m not debating whether it’s going to get disqualified or not, I’m saying that I think it’s very clearly going against the idea of the prompt

          ok but how is it CLEARLY ??? wasn't stated in the rules and i asked and it was ok- so obviously not that clearly to everyone else ... 

          Would be cool if you could explain to me why it was against the prompt so i know what i did wrong ?

          but ok the voting for the finalists is over and as suspected it did not make the cut so i guess the discussion about it is kinda unnecessary :)

           

  • I mean, technically there was no state in rules, nor it was confirmed by mods, that you cannot use characters which have a new version in standard already. However, there is a small note at the bottom of competition main page, which goes like this: "While they do have cards that are Wild exclusive, characters like Reno and the rest of the Explorers have had their moment in the sun recently - give some love to those not in Standard at all!", but I would argue that an extra note should be considered a rule if it's not even added to the disscusion thread anywhere. However, for my own safety I decided not to submit my new version of Finley, which would be a perfect card for this competition. I guess I'll have to save it for later.

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      I mean, technically there was no state in rules, nor it was confirmed by mods, that you cannot use characters which have a new version in standard already. However, there is a small note at the bottom of competition main page, which goes like this: "While they do have cards that are Wild exclusive, characters like Reno and the rest of the Explorers have had their moment in the sun recently - give some love to those not in Standard at all!", but I would argue that an extra note should be considered a rule if it's not even added to the disscusion thread anywhere. However, for my own safety I decided not to submit my new version of Finley, which would be a perfect card for this competition. I guess I'll have to save it for later.

      Even if it technically won’t get you DQ’d, I still think it’s obviously against the logic of the theme. The comp refers to character, not individual cards, and it’s obvious that Sir Finley Mrrgglton and Sir Finley of the Sands refer to the same character, making Finley a character which still has a card in standard

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        I guess that's fair, everyone judge cards on their own.

  • Good luck to our finalists!

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  • How did everyone like this weeks prompt? Do you like flavor-focused themes? Was this one in particular difficult to design for, maybe because it was harder to determine, whether the character was HS original or not? Or did you actually feel like it was too narrow, since you had to use a HS original character? Just some feedback for us, thanks :)

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    • I think having it both be a Hearthstone-original character but excluding the Adventure characters really limited the options for characters. I'd probably prefer having it be updating either any Legendary from wild or any Hearthstone-original character.

  • I actualy like flavour-themed competitions, but sometimes it may be hard to find appropriate art.

  • Honestly I wasn't very surprised about the low number of submissions. Thematically, it wasn't too narrow and the list grumpymonk provided on page 1 was invaluable. Major "but": Finding good art was very difficult and that's what I suppose stopped quite a few people from participating.

    If anyone feels like it, I would be grateful for some quick feedback on Toki, Mistress of Time, which was my submission for this week. I aimed at twisting her flavor from Toki, Time-Tinker giving you Legendarys from the past to my version giving you cards from the future by discovering a copy from your opponent's deck. Was it too annoying? Too risky?

    • @anchorm4n I thought the flavor was pretty lacking honestly.

      First off, that art was of a completely different character (and, well... you had the future Toki art for it, so not like there was no choice).

      Second, the effect didn’t click at all with the flavor for me. Copying cards in your opponent’s deck is a well known Priest trope, and never once did it strike me in a time travel context

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        @anchorm4n I thought the flavor was pretty lacking honestly.

        First off, that art was of a completely different character (and, well... you had the future Toki art for it, so not like there was no choice).

        Second, the effect didn’t click at all with the flavor for me. Copying cards in your opponent’s deck is a well known Priest trope, and never once did it strike me in a time travel context

        thanks and lol, here I was thinking new art would be better than recycling future Toki for the umpteenth time. I know it wasn't exactly the right character, but there's certainly a big resemblance. The idea for the effect was born from the purple part at the bottom of the art like in some shadow Priest cards. Discovering cards in your opponent's deck was the closest I could come up with for a "look into the future" idea but yeah, I should have explained that.

        Good luck to the finalists!

  • Am I wrong, or we do have tie between grumpymonk and DavnanKillder?

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      Am I wrong, or we do have tie between grumpymonk and DavnanKillder?

      We do indeed! Congratulations to the both of them

  • Congratulations to grumpymonk and DavnanKillder!

    Also want to apologize to FieselFitz: I gave you an okay for Kragg, but you were disqualified anyway. That's on me :(

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      Congratulations to grumpymonk and DavnanKillder!

      Also want to apologize to FieselFitz: I gave you an okay for Kragg, but you were disqualified anyway. That's on me :(

      Wow ... i asked and it got an ok - and it wasn't even a problem according to the rules ... but ok , can't change that but still a little annoying that it happened the way it did. To be sure i will ask some stuff in the next competition before i post a card because it seems there are some "unwritten" rules :) 

       

      and congratz to the winners ! 

       

  • The exact tie to a recurring decimal. And from a differently scored votes too, cool! CG guys! :D

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  • Congrats grumpymonk and DavnanKillder! 

  • Thanks guys =D

  • Again, I really don’t see what’s unwritten here. The prompt was to make a card for a character not in standard, not to make a card for a character which has a card not in standard. It’s like saying evolve shaman is a wild archetype because some evolve shaman cards are no longer in standard