Hearthstone
Fohtun-tellin 101 (feat. Madame Lazul)
- Thief Priest
- Wild
- Ranked
Welcom' to me fohtun-tellin guide
(wit ya humble servant, Madame Lazul)
Greetings, mon. Ya be here ta hear mi scry? No? Ahh, yes, yes, ya must be interested in me fohtun-tellin guide. Yes, of course, I knew dat.
Come, come, don't be shy. Ma snake won't bite. Sit, sit, pull up a chair and don't mind de tentacles undaneat it - dees be mine. Just make suh ya don step on dem, else even I can't predict wat be happenin next. Comfy? Gut, but befo we begin, ya must sign dis contract, dat you sacrifice ya soul for de glory of de Old Gods and den ya must pay de price of 13k dust ta enta dis course. Der will be no refunds, but if ya behave well, I can offer discounts.
Now where was I? Ah, yes. Scryin be no easy task. It requires a lot of patience, concentration and self-dedication and good RNG ta read ya opponent's hand and predict what cards dey be playin next. Ya won't always get ta see de strongest ones and play dem against ya enemy, but dis is why ya must devote yaself to de Old Gods, so dat dey grant ya powah. If ya be in a taf situation, appeal to N'zoth or his n'raqi servants and dey be comin to ya aid.
► General Strategy
- Versus Fasta decks - cleah, heal, cleah, heal, stabilize, steal and emote.
- Versus Control - steal, cleah, steal, heal, steal, steal, steal and emote.
- Versus Combo - run de Duhty Rat, play it, ruin deir gameplan, steal and emote.
► General Mulligan
- Versus Fasta decks - Look fo Mass Hysteria, Shadow Visions and a cheap deathrattle minion or a Doomsaya.
- Versus Control - Look fo Twilight's Kol, Shadow Visions and a deathrattle minion.
- Versus Combo - include Duhty Rat and try ta find it.
► Class Specific Strategies
Warrior
If ya face a warriah on de ladda, den it's mo likely ta be a Pirate Warriah dan anytin else. Since dey be quite aggressive, I'd advise ya ta mulligan fo defensive tools and a Gluttonous Ooze. Cleah deir pirates, keep deir board in check and play de control game. Sometimes it be a good idea ta play a Doomsaya on turn 2, in ordah ta delay ya opponent's aggression. If ya survive until de late game, it would be gg.
If it be not a pirate, den ya might be facin an odd deck. Which is control and dus a favourable MU. If dis not be de case aida, den buckle up fo a looooooooooooong DMH Warriah game. Try ta dump ya hand and play Archbishop Benedictus only aftah dey cast Dead Man's Hand (while dodgin deir Duhty Rat). Don't let dem mill crucial cards wit Coldlight Oracle or Brann Bronzebeard + Coldlight Oracle.
Hunter
Mek - de only good cards here are: Mass Hysteria, Doomsaya, Fohbidden Wuhds (fo deir Mekwarpa), Greituh Healin Potion and Shadow Visions (+ Psychic Scream if ya manage ta survive dat long). Find dem, stabilize and win. Cleah de opponent's meks at all cost, since dey can be magnetized or buffed wit Metaltut Leapa.
Spell - de first tink I want to mention is dat Masta's Kol is supa annoyin, since it allows de huntah to fetch Barnes wit ease and to summon a 10/10 Y'Shaarj on turn 4 (glory fo de Old Gods btw). De current deck doesn't utilize Shadow Wohd: Det, but it would be a good idea ta find Lightbomb and some taunts, which would soak up de damage until turn 6. Or ta play a Doomsaya right befo turn 4. Secondly - be very careful, when ya cast spells. Cat Trick be extremely common, so if ya have de possibility, try ta cast a spell, which would trigger dis secret first, and den play a boad cliah. Save Mass Hysteria fo deir spellstone. Oda dan dat - stabilize and out-value dem. If ya don't steal Detstalka Rexxa wit Archbishop Benedictus or any of de oda copy cards, worry not, because N'Zoth can help ya win de match.
Paladin
Odd - look fo defensive tools (Mass Hysteria), try to save ya AoEs when ya really need them, i.e. befoh de paladin plays Quartamasta.
Aggro Anyfin - de only tink, which I consider ta be scary here, be when de paladin player has both High Priest Thekal and a Molten Giant (or both) in deir startin hand. If dis be de case, ya can't do sh*t about it. If dey be playin dos minions in de mid- or late-game, ya can use one of de big board clears ta deal with dem. As foh de muhlocs - try not to let any of de Muhloc Wahleadas or Ol Muhk-Eye die. Entomb or Psychic Scream and den Entomb dem, if ya don't have dis spell befohhand. If somehow de paladin plays smaht and kills off deir muhlocs, play Amara befoh de secon Anyfin Can Happen. Since ya be playing as a scrya, ya can also try ta gain a copy of de 10-mana spell and smack de opponent wit deir own win-condition. I can help too, so don't rush to play me.
Rogue
Odd or Pirate Kingsbane. De odd match up be very straightforward. Just find ya defensive tools and try ta stall de game as much as possible. Against Hench-Clan Thug ya should be usin Fohbidden Wuhds, we also have an ooze fo deir weapon. If ya startin hand be really weak, sometimes it be advisable ta remove de quest and increase ya chances of drawin heals or AoEs.
Kingsbane. Always keep de ooze in ya startin hand and Fohbidden Wuhds fo Ship's Cannon. Ya should be playin de ooze only aftah de opponent plays a tutor card (Kevuhn Shinyfinda/Raidin Party). In dis MU de oda good cards be Ded Ringuh, Doomsaya, taunts (preferably Rotten Applebaum), Twilight's Kol, Greituh Healin Potion and Mass Hysteria. De quest feels way too slow oftentimes, but if ya have de Ringuh and a copy of TC in ya startin hand, ya should be keepin it.
If ya stumble upon Big Rogue, try ta find Psychic Scream, maybe [Hearthstone Card (Lightbomb) Not Found]/Greituh Healin Potion and try ta maintain ya health. Entomb is not a bad idea eidah. If ya face mill (ya don't see any "Monstas behind ya", and de opponent is cyclin a lot of cards), ya should try ta dump ya hand as much as possible. Don't let de opponent mill Archbishop Benedictus with de Coldlight Oracles. If ya have him in ya hand, ya can copy him with Zola or ya can use some rogue cards like Shadowstep/Lab Recruhta to multiply his effect. Speakin of Lab Recruhta, I generally cast Entomb on him.
Shaman
Druid
I haven't faced dat many druids dis expansion, but accordin to VSreplay token is quite popular, so try ta mulligan fo cheap defensive stuff like Doomsaya, Mass Hysteria and some taunts and maybe remove de quest. Try ta slow de opponent down.
Jade was the most common encounta fo me, soo try savin Entomb fo Aya Blackpaw. Unless ya be low on health and ya wanna be buildin up Amara, I would suggest castin Twilight's Kols, aftah stealin Aya and havin her die. In dis MU I try to dump me hand, dus deny gettin milled from Naturalize by frowin away useless spells and I preserve de most valuable ones (Lightbomb, Mass Hysteria, Psychic Scream) for de moment, when de opponent's jades become huge. I don't play N'Zoth, if de opponent's board is empty - I don't want to lose it to Poison Seeds.
Warlock
Dere be a big variety in dis class. I would personally advise ya ta keep de quest in all cases.
Evenlock - if ya somehow know, dat ya opponent is playin dis deck, keep Lightbomb and Shadow Visions/Mass Hysteria. De strategy here be pretty simple - cleah, heal, suhvive and den out-value dem. If ya be havin a lot of health and speah mana, heal ya opponent (and don't foget ta emote ;P ). Dis way ya play around Hooked Reavuh and Molten Giant.
Cubelock - Save Entomb fo Mal'Ganis or de Doomgads. Same as above - cleah, heal, suhvive and den out-value dem. If ya somehow suspect a 25-burst combo, den try ta time Amara correctly. Hope ya find de ooze on time.
Renolock - outvalue dem. Play Entomb on Voidlord and Mal'Ganis. Play Benedictus fast, because ya don't want ta risk him bein pulled by a Duhty Rat. Oftentimes I purposely don't play any stolen minions from me hand just to minimize de chances of lettin me opponent pull Amara or Benedictus.
Some of dem run Mecha'thun. RUN DE RAT, if ya face dis deck too often.
Dankest Aua - rare MU. Aida de opponent draws de nuts and pulls off some bullsh*t turns, or ya win wit ya defensive tools. In dis MU de only good cards be Mass Hysteria, Lightbomb and multiple Convincin Infiltratus on the board from Twilight's Kol. I don't recommend mulliganin for dis MU, because it's supa rare as I said earla, but keepin a Mass Hysteria in ya hand won't hurt ya.
Mage
Burn/Tempo - Take only cheap stuff in de mulligan stage. Try ta play around some secrets - Countaspell (cast a cheap or a useless spell first) and Explosive Runes (play Doomsaya/Convincin Infiltratuh). We have an ooze fo deir Aluneth.
Miracle Mage - Afta playin a bunch of games against dis archtype, I discried deir weakness - a wide and a sticky board. Dey don't have many ways ta cleah it, so if ya be 100% sure, dat ya be facin dis archtype, keep de quest and search fo Ded Ringuh, Convincin Infiltratuh and aida a Twilight's Kol, or Fohbidden Wuhds (for deir Flameweikuh). If ya suspect, dat de opponent would cast Time Warp soon and would kill ya with giants and what not, play Amara and our Lord and Saviuh N'Zoth. Or just me, so dat I steal deir quest reward. >:)
Combo - dere be many variants here. Some use Open de Waygate, adas just rely on Empera Taurissan. In dis MU we don't need de quest. Play Duhty Rat (if ya run it); if ya manage ta steal Research Project or Coldlight Oracle, den use dem, in ordah ta mill ya opponent. In case with de rat - use it 1) aftah de oppponent plays Tauri, 2) or aftah dey play a lot of minions and deir quest is almost completed. I also try ta steal Ice Block and when de opponent pulls off deir combo, I clear de board and heal myself with Amara. Ya can be also usin mi aid and I would fetch ya de Ice Block wit me crystal boll.
Control (incl. Reno) - "steal, cleah, steal, heal, steal, steal, steal and emote".
Priest
Ya opponent will most likely be Big Priest. De strategy here is pretty simple - steal deir annoyin minions and narrow down deir resurrection pool. Dis is why I ALWAYS try ta find Entomb in me mulligan stage (+ Shadow Visions into a secon one or a copy of Psychic Scream). De only minions, which be not worth stealin be Barnes and Obsidian Statue (+ Empera Taurissan especially if ya have a lot of removals in hand). And if de opponent plays or coins out Archmage Vargoth, don't be afraid of him just yet. He can't do anytin on turn 4 or 5. He becomes scary with Shadow Essence, because de priest player can recruit and have two extra bodies in de resurrection pool + a Vargoth multiplyin deir futuh ress spells, so I always Entomb him right befoh de Big Priest opponent reaches turn 6.
Oftentimes, when I cast Psychic Scream, I try to shuffle a really weak minion in de opponent's deck. It be advisable for ya ta do dis, because anytin small would instantly become a dead card or a bad target for SE.
De only bad MU would be de Mind Blast version of big priest. Against dis deck try to Entomb Malygos and Prophet Velen. Don't let dem die.
! I cut 1 Entomb and Shadowreapa Anduin, cuz dos cards be really slow in dis meta. If ya face Big Priest very often, ya should run de DK again.
Razakus - if dey play de OTK version, den RIP. Othahwise try ta calculate how much damage dey can deal in a single turn and time Amara correctly.
Dragon Burn - Same as above - try ta calculate how much damage dey can deal in a single turn. Don't let dem out-tempo you. Play Amara and ya healin potions aftah dey Alexstrasza ya.
Innafayah Priest - well, dis be a bad MU. Try ta cleah deir freats and keep ya minions' health as low as possible. If dey play both Twilight Acolytes, den ya can play ya big minions safely.
► Card replacements and recommendations
REPLACEMENTS
- Awaken the Makers - Staple with all of de deathrattle minions and support in dis deck.
- Zola - Look, ya can easily use Seance instead of her, but I don't be wantin to ruin de outcome of Shadow Visions, when I desperately want ta search fo a specific spell (eidah an AoE against aggro or Entomb against Big Priest). If ya don't have her, den it would be best ta add a deathrattle minion, in ordah to speed up de quest completion process. If ya care more about havin fun, add Seance in ya deck. It makes de deck mo flavourful.
- Madame Lazul - ya can't afford mi? Ya tink I be not gut enough? Ya wanna face me wrath, ya insolent swine?!
- Archbishop Benedictus - Good card versus control decks, which reach fatigue. Kinda hard ta find a replacement, because no oda card can delay fatigue like he does. If ya aim ta have fun, den try to add some meme cards as a compensation.
- N'Zoth - ya be wonderin wheda dis Old God I worship be staple? Of course he be, we have a lot of deathrattle minions.
RECOMMENDATIONS
- Northshaya Clerik - if ya struggle in de early-game, ya can replace de Crystalline Oracles wit de clerics.
- Second copy of Spirit Lash - add it, only if ya face a lot of token or dude decks and ya struggle against dem. Ya can add Bloodmage Thalnos to gain more heal and to cycle more cards.
- Bloodmage Thalnos - gut Evergreen card. If ya struggle against aggro too much and ya need more cycle, add him and a copy of Spirit Lash instead of Shiftin Shade.
- Duhty Rat - nice little tech, if ya face many combo decks. I didn't include him, because it doesn't always pull the right minion, but if combo decks are a major problem fo ya, it can help ya a lot. Ya can even combine it with Zola.
- Mind Control Tech - gut versus some swarm or mid-range decks; ya can use it if ya be strugglin against them.
- Curious Glimmaroot - a fun little 3-drop. I personally tink, that de value generation be enough in dis deck, but if ya feel ya don't be wantin de ooze nor any of de oda anti-aggro tools and just make de deck mo amusin, ya could play it. It makes de decklist mo flavourful.
- Dragonfaya Potion - I tink de spell be fine in general, but not when Big Priests and Even Shamen are popular.
- Sylvanas Windrunna - a very fun inclusion wit a very stronk deathrattle effect. In the past I used ta play her a lot, but due to de current aggressive decks (mostly burn mage, muhloc shaman and mek huntah) I was forced ta play a taunt ova her. If ya wanna haf fun, ya should definitely put her in de deck.
- Shadowreapa Anduin - stronk inclusion against decks wit big minions, if dos be ya issue. It can be used as reach as well.
Rememba, a fohtun-tella be only as good as deir music in de background. If ya want ta be respected by ya colleagues, ya have to declare ya presence in de noisiest way possible. Here be a video I propose:
De point of dis tink is ta annoy de opponent as much as possible. Dey will feel de pain of losin to a class, dat would soon receive Radiance.
YA HAVE TA MAKE DEM SUFFAH!
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- 0 Forbidden Words x 2
- 1 Awaken the Makers x 1
- 1 Crystalline Oracle x 2
- 2 Dead Ringer x 2
- 2 Shadow Visions x 2
- 3 Madame Lazul x 1
- 3 Twilight's Call x 2
- 4 Greater Healing Potion x 1
- 4 Shifting Shade x 1
- 5 Convincing Infiltrator x 2
- 5 Mass Hysteria x 2
- 6 Entomb x 1
- 6 Lightbomb x 2
- 7 Archbishop Benedictus x 1
- 7 Psychic Scream x 1
- 2 Doomsayer x 2
- 3 Gluttonous Ooze x 1
- 3 Zola the Gorgon x 1
- 5 Rotten Applebaum x 2
- 10 N'Zoth, the Corruptor x 1
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I just played one casual game and played this b.s. druid deck that got over 2500 amor. Why does that exist? Anyways, I plan on trying it out more because I like older priest cards better than the new ones. Right now I'm rank 9 3 stars in wild. I usually test a deck in casual first before going to ranked. I hope it works for me.
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I am sad to inform you, that I don't play hs anymore, so I don't know what the current wild meta looks like. If I were you, I would replace some niche cards with more suitable tech options. The current list aimed to bully Big Priest, but that was before Secret Mage got überbuffed, so the deck is really outdated.
I just found this after making my own flavor based Thief Priest deck. All I can say is WOW! This is an awesome deck guide!
My only question: how much did you have to pay to get Madame Lazul to create this for you?
Glad you liked it.
Regarding your question - this particular list cost me 1600 dust in the past. This is because the only card I was missing back then was the one and only [Hearthstone Card (Madame Lazule) Not Found]. The other thieving legendaries and epics were acquired throughout the expansions. My earliest attempt in building a defined Thief Priest deck was back in Un'goro and it was inspired by Le Dawg's Toy Stealer.
Coming back to this comment section to ask another question:
How did you get the cards to display using your own spellings (e.g. Duhty Rat for Dirty Rat, Doomsaya for Doomsayer, etc.)?
I'm hoping I'll be able to use this trick in my own decks for the future. Thanks in advance!
Type the following:
[cаrd text="the thing you want"]name of the card[/cаrd]
[edit] Use the "card" button on the menu tab you see above and just add the additional command. Don't copy paste the formula I wrote above, because I used the Cyrillic "а" twice.
nice
Wow, I have never seen such a top notch explanation about great deck. Thumbs up man!
ty, glad you liked it
Great deck! Are you planning on updating it now that SoU is out? :)
Glad, that you liked it.
Regarding your question - if you go to my new deck page, you will see that I'm only planning to create a fun-to-play list this time around. I suspect Burn Mage will gain a lot of popularity in wild and I would just screw myself, if I don't include more cheap deathrattle minions. In the past I ran a super anti-aggro build and I even managed to reach legend with it, but right now I kinda want to have fun. I want to be able to steal stuff and be greedy and not just summon defensive minions.
If the meta slows down a bit, I might make another half-meme, half-serious quest priest deck again. But I'm not planning to do it right now.
This deck is really great for standard players who come over to wild. I cruised from 25 to 15 without much effort and it was so much fun. The version which worked out best for me is the one without Bloodmage Thalnos. First I tried it without Archbishop Benedictus, but he's too important for control matches. Dirty Rat and an ooze have done very well, too.
ALL IN ALL THIS DECK IS THE BEST BALANCE BETWEEN COMPETITIVENESS AND FUN I HAVE EVER EXPERIENCED! give it a try :-)
Thanks for the support. I hope you reach higher ranks as well. :)
Fun deck, but also... the guide! You've put so much effort into it that it really deserve some kind of reward by herself (I can only give you my upvote :P).
Thx mate, glad you like it.
Deck creator's notes:
First of all, thanks once again for the support. As I promised, here are the deck's win rate, stats and a pic of the highest achieved rank:
(not really impressive, but if you continue reading, you will learn why I didn't land somewhere higher)
A month ago I used to face Big Priest, Odd Paladin and Even Shaman way more often than Miracle Mages and this is why I used to run a lot of late-game defensive tools (and a copy of Spirit Lash). I managed to reach rank 4 back then (no pic, sorry). This month however Miracle Mages are very popular and some of my greedier inclusions ended up being unnecessary. Because of this and some misplays I made out of distraction or greed, which cost me a couple of games, the win-rate from rank 9 to 5 was only 58%:
The decklists I frequently used were these:
all of which concentrated on dealing with the opponent's threats in the late-game. Since the current environment isn't optimal for such builds, the list I propose above should be good enough to win you a lot of games, while also making them enjoyable.
To all people, who care about reaching Legend with this build - I have some good and bad news. The good news are, that doing this is possible with the proposed list. The bad news are, that due to the slow start of my deck you would inevitably lose some games against aggro with a godlike starting hand, thus your grind to legend would be delayed and if you decide to make some adjustments, in order to be more competitive, you would just hurt the fun factor. I have reached Legend twice with Thief Priest before and in aggressive metas Mistress of Mixtures, Explosive Sheep and Bloodmage Thalnos(+ Spirit Lash) proved to be really helpful. So if you have a hard time dealing with Odd Paladin, Murloc Shaman, Burn Mage and maybe Kingsbane Rogue, you could easily add those cards in your deck and remove Madame Lazul and the Doomsayers. Just don't play the first two deathrattle minions against miracle mage, because we desperately want our N'Zoth, the Corruptor to summon taunts. If for some reason you often stumble upon Big Priest and Even Shaman, then add only Shadowreaper Anduin.
Those are my tips for you. I don't know if I would have the will to grind to legend yet again, because I really despise metas, where aggro mages are popular (I had this feeling against their standard ancestors bakc in the days). So I don't want to make promises I won't keep. If you have any questions regarding the deck, then don't hesitate to ask. :)
[edit] The guide isn't finished yet. I still have a couple of cards, whose names I want to adjust to the troll accent. Bless the custom tooltips. Done.
Thats one of the type of decks I really enjoy playing. Any other Legendary replacements for Benedictus and Zola? those are the only ones i'm missing, and they seem to be really important against control, maybe Elysiana can work?
Well, I made a small section regarding card replacements and recommendations:
Possible discounts and card recommendations:
Zola the Gorgon - Look, ya can easily use Seance instead of her, but I don't be wantin' to ruin de outcome of Shadow Visions, when I desperately want ta search foh a specific spell (eithah an AoE against aggro or Entomb against Big Priest).
Archbishop Benedictus - Good card versus control decks, which reach fatigue. Kinda hard to find a replacement, because no other card can delay fatigue like he does. I would suggest something else - ya can use Piloted Shredder or Rotten Applebaum, in order to speed up de quest completion process, to have bettah chances against aggressive strategies and to deny ya hand gettin overflooded with value from N'Zoth. But if ya aim ta have fun, den try to add some meme cards as a compensation.
Zola the Gorgon - as I said in the quoted paragraph, if you want to replace the copying card with a cheaper version, you could always use Seance. The reason why I don't use it is because I want Shadow Visions to be really picky, when it searches through my deck for spells. Against Big Priest for example I want to discover one specific spell - Entomb - and I don't want something to get in the way of me fetching it. It's all about numbers and the more different spells I have in my deck, the lesser the chances of finding something, which I desire at a given moment. That's why I would recommend doing something else like adding a deathrattle minion (a second Sludge Belcher, a Rotten Applebaum or a Bloodmage Thalnos) in your deck. Some people don't mind running Seance and if you care more about having fun and memeing your opponent, then you can use this instead. It also adds more flavour to the deck.
Archbishop Benedictus - Fortunately for you he is rarely useful (only when I face Big Priests, Renolocks and in some rare cases other control decks), so you can safely put something cheaper (preferably a deathrattle minion for N'zoth).
Oh, i didn't had noticed you've already posted a replacement list on the guide, so i'm sorry for my dumb comment. :/
But thanks for replying! I'm gonna try Thalnos and Elysiana and see how the deck ends up performing.
Once I saw Kovachut stripping a Big Priest from all dignity with a Thief Priest.
I guess it's even better with this update into Scryer Priest.