Miniset: anything exciting ?

Submitted 2 years, 5 months ago by

I am not particularly excited by the miniset: in particular by Legendaries that look among the worst in Standard ... anything I miss?

  • Grumpy000's Avatar
    1880 1159 Posts Joined 06/06/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    I am not particularly excited by the miniset: in particular by Legendaries that look among the worst in Standard ... anything I miss?

    I am 69 years old and still reach Legend

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 2010 4741 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    Mage looks good, Naga Mage got a solid boost.

    Paladin and DH also got some decent stuff.

    Hell, even the Warlock legendary might be really good in Curselock if you play it right.

    Neptulon is probably decent in Druid and maybe Ozumat isn't as bad in practice as he is on paper.

    Compare that to the last mini-set which didn't have that many viable cards either (only 2 legendaries saw play and very few of the class cards made an impact)

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • Avalon's Avatar
    Salty Dog 1550 2105 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    So I was not the only one having this impression.

    I talked about this a few hours ago with Swizard and we both agreed that the "cool/powerful" cards can easily be counted with one hand, at least with the current state of Constructed.

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  • dapperdog's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 1890 5607 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    - Shaman's got lots of legs for murlocs in this miniset. If murlocs are your beef, then this one's your pie

    - Moonbeam is the only druid card I care about in this set.

    - Paladin got some really cool toys. Lightray and Myrmidon looks good

    - Priest got shafted. All their cards kinda only fits highlander and quest, and both archetype suck

    - Face hunter feat. nagas may make a return. Its been pretty shit for them so far, but with the stuff from this set it might be solid enough to make a comeback

    - Dhunters got one good card, one mediocre card and one that suck. But that good card can help out with the current naga dhunter.

    - Mage looks good on paper, but I doubt we'll see those cards be added into the current naga mage.

    - The new rogue cards are most interesting in my opinion. But that may be because Ive been enjoying mine rogue so far.

    - Warlock can go fuck itself

     

    So far so good. But of course, the real question here would be whether its worth it to even buy. And to be frank, if you're saving gold or real money, Ive seen nothing so far that indicate a yes. Neptulon the Tidehunter and Ozumat are not must-haves in my opinion, because they are both clunky and expensive. Commander Ulthok is redundant, and borderline to being the new Duskfallen Aviana. Might get better I would concede. Lady Naz'jar is a card that Im unsure if it'll ever bump up win rates. And the less said about Front Lines the better.

    I'll only be getting the miniset because I can spare the gold. But cant say that the legendaries and epic are worth it.

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  • Alfi's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 1790 1375 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago
    Quote From dapperdog

    - Priest got shafted. All their cards kinda only fits highlander and quest, and both archetype suck

    Actually, I'm playing my take on Quest Priest on ladder and this is a very good meta to climb with it. Of course, if the opponent gets perfect cards, it can beat you, but otherwise it is a really good deck. Against attrition decks you win with Shard, against midrange/tempo you win with value cards. I love the 8 mana Whirlpool

     

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  • dapperdog's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 1890 5607 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago
    Quote From Alfi
    Quote From dapperdog

    - Priest got shafted. All their cards kinda only fits highlander and quest, and both archetype suck

    Actually, I'm playing my take on Quest Priest on ladder and this is a very good meta to climb with it. Of course, if the opponent gets perfect cards, it can beat you, but otherwise it is a really good deck. Against attrition decks you win with Shard, against midrange/tempo you win with value cards. I love the 8 mana Whirlpool

     

    Your list must be superior to the ones Ive seen. For the most part quest priest feels very clunky, it never feels like the deck is in control of what is happening around it. I havent lost to one from the start of the expansion yet. The closest I came to a loss was with handbuff pally where my hand stunk like cat droppings and skipped the first three turns. Didnt really get going until turn 5, and my opponent had more cards in hand than myself. And yet somehow I still managed to win it.

    I tried it once myself, and then never again. The loss of Palm Reading and Renew really hurt its viability, and I dont think any of the new cards would change anything. I say that they fit highlander and quest, but only because I cant see them fit anywhere else.

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  • h0lysatan's Avatar
    Zombie 1065 790 Posts Joined 12/03/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    Miniset released at the first day of new season, and that's a good thing, because players have plenty of time to wait before deciding if it actually good and buys the miniset.

    Me personally, I'll wait for at least 2 weeks before deciding. Honestly, as of now, I can't see any good with the Legendaries, and I don't wanna spend 2000 golds on 4 of them. The rares and commons are easy to get with packs, and cheap too (I got some free dust for rares/commons)

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  • Avalon's Avatar
    Salty Dog 1550 2105 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    2k Gold for 4 Legendaries is such a good deal though: you'd rarely get them in 20 packs!

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  • h0lysatan's Avatar
    Zombie 1065 790 Posts Joined 12/03/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    Depends on the legendary itself. So far, none of those really intrigue me personally. And no, with 5 packs from the season reward, I reckon I'll get 'majority' of miniset commons, and some rares. I don't think I'll go as far as spending 20packs just for rares and commons.

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  • Alfi's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 1790 1375 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago
    Quote From dapperdog
    Quote From Alfi
    Quote From dapperdog

    - Priest got shafted. All their cards kinda only fits highlander and quest, and both archetype suck

    Actually, I'm playing my take on Quest Priest on ladder and this is a very good meta to climb with it. Of course, if the opponent gets perfect cards, it can beat you, but otherwise it is a really good deck. Against attrition decks you win with Shard, against midrange/tempo you win with value cards. I love the 8 mana Whirlpool

     

    Your list must be superior to the ones Ive seen. For the most part quest priest feels very clunky, it never feels like the deck is in control of what is happening around it. I havent lost to one from the start of the expansion yet. The closest I came to a loss was with handbuff pally where my hand stunk like cat droppings and skipped the first three turns. Didnt really get going until turn 5, and my opponent had more cards in hand than myself. And yet somehow I still managed to win it.

    I tried it once myself, and then never again. The loss of Palm Reading and Renew really hurt its viability, and I dont think any of the new cards would change anything. I say that they fit highlander and quest, but only because I cant see them fit anywhere else.

    I encountered a strange bug. On PC the HS shows the old deck before edits, only on iPad I can see the current list.

    Here it is:

    -=alfi=-

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  • AngryShuckie's Avatar
    1705 1735 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago
    Quote From h0lysatan

    Depends on the legendary itself. So far, none of those really intrigue me personally. And no, with 5 packs from the season reward, I reckon I'll get 'majority' of miniset commons, and some rares. I don't think I'll go as far as spending 20packs just for rares and commons.

    With the diminishing returns on packs, I'd still rather use 2k gold on an unexciting mini-set than save it for future packs. In all likelihood that would only net me 1 underwhelming legendary plus less dust than is needed to craft one I do want. Given I could dust 3 of the mini-set legendaries to be in a similar place dust-wise, I'd be happy to have got all the extra rares (and 2 epics I guess) for 'free'.

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  • h0lysatan's Avatar
    Zombie 1065 790 Posts Joined 12/03/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago

    Yeah, that sounds better when you explain with the dust gain, even when the worst happen, the epic and legends don't see any play at all.
    1600 (4xlegend) +200 (2xepic) dusts worth a lot with just 2K gold.

    Then again, on the other hand, I (forgot) still have 6 arena tickets, and 5 from this season reward, makes ~11 Sunken packs total (assuming 1 for each ticket). Between this miniset and 20 packs of new expansion, I really don't know.

    We'll see how my luck goes opening those.

    EDIT. Agh, I could only hope I make a mistake judging them and those legends are actually good. Even 2 of those worth buying the miniset if they're good.

     

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