So Tempo decks are essentially ruling the meta right now
1. Azir Irelia 58 percent winrate
2. Zed Sivir 57.5
3. Pirate aggro 58.7
4. leblanc sivir and shen jarvan 56.5
5. discard aggro 56.8
6. Zed Temo 56.3
7. Draven Fizz 57.1
The reality is that there isn't a single slower deck that breaks the 55% winrate barrier, meaning that none of them can be considered A/S tier if we are simple going off statistics
Poor turbo thralls has dropped from a S tier deck to barely a 50% winrate, I think that this is definitely indicative that tempo>control right now
Ideally we would see a healthy balance between these two forces, where opponents who hit the board hard without thinking can get punished
But as it stands right now this simple isn't the case if we go by the numbers
Do we need to start seeing across the board buffs to removal options?
If combat tricks can give a card 3/1 for 1 mana or 3/0 0/3 for two, what about removal buffs?
6 mana vengence, 7 mana reckoning, 4 mana grasp, a P and Z card that does 4 dmg like soul spear
If we look at any of these deck lists none of them are attempting to control out the opponent that's a problem
Let's see one more balance adjustment with a focus on removal options in August
with the re-introduction of Shadowform, I would like to see the revert of "If already in Shadowform, increase the damage by 1". With Mage getting the bonus to be able to deal up to 3 damage per use of their Hero Power, it only seems right to allow the aggressive form of Priest to do the same thing.
I think its one of the best deal you can get if you are decently active. And a really fair price. Last season which ofcourse was 1 month longer, i got to lvl 268 with BP. and it got me an extra 2800gold overall with the 20% buff.
Based on HSReplay priest is the worst class, period. Best deck is 46% winrate.
So yeah, priest is dead.
Blizzard could not nerf the real cultprits - Raise Dead and Palm Reading as both are shadow spells and most likely aimed for the shadow priest archetype they are building, so they cancelled all Priest healing and now while agro can deal 15-25 damage burst Priest is unable to efficiently heal.
It's arguable that I use online gaming as an outlet for the more immature sides of myself. I work in an industry where I have to be patient and responsible with ppl who are often immature (or crazy). I have to choose my words carefully and do everything holding myself in outstanding dignity.
I really have no empathy for ppl being annoyed by it. I've lived a life where unfortunately people have been very disrespectful to my face and I couldn't do much about it. I grew a tough skin against it so as not to be hurt anymore. In real life I am respectful of other people to a fault because it is the same way I'd like to be respected.
I feel that most Hearthstone ppl haven't had that same background and generally shrink from any confrontation. I just can't condone that because it defies all logic: making nothing into something. Roping? Sure that IS annoying. BMing? I honestly find it amusing.
Think about how silly it sounds that anyone can be bothered AT ALL by six preset sentences. Really, it's mind boggling.
It sounds to me like you are reflecting frustrations from real life back at the world through online BMing. It is good to have an outlet for that, and I agree that emote spamming in HS is a long way from the most damaging approach, but there must be better options that don't drag strangers into something that had nothing to do with them?
It really doesn't matter whether you are confused by their response to BMing. All that matters is that you know it does cause negative responses in some people, so you are knowingly passing your own frustrations onto other people. Maybe that makes you feel better, but shifting annoyances around like this doesn't improve things at a societal level.
In fact, the odds are quite high that the people annoying you at work are doing exactly the same thing: someone annoys them but for whatever reason they cannot resolve it with the people initially at fault, so they pass their annoyances to you by being immature when they encounter you. You then pass it on to people playing HS, who then pass it on to someone else in some other way. Eventually the cycle might come all the way back around to you. It's basically all a diffusion of frustration through society, with each step in the process more tame than the last, but spread to more people. That would be fine if little annoyances didn't accumulate in a way that makes someone as angry as if a single massive thing happened, but they can and they do.
The way to stop this cycle is simply to find ways to vent frustrations that don't pass them onto someone else. For me that might be going for a walk if I just need to calm down a little, or drumming for a while if I need to really thrash it out of me. Do whatever you like for it, just don't keep pretending BMing online is a good solution simply because you don't empathise with the people who find it annoying.
Anyway, I'll stop my side of this discussion there. Hopefully you give some of this stuff some proper thought (especially the comparison between BMing and bullying, which was made independently by 3 people), even if you still end up disagreeing with me.
It's arguable that I use online gaming as an outlet for the more immature sides of myself. I work in an industry where I have to be patient and responsible with ppl who are often immature (or crazy). I have to choose my words carefully and do everything holding myself in outstanding dignity.
I really have no empathy for ppl being annoyed by it. I've lived a life where unfortunately people have been very disrespectful to my face and I couldn't do much about it. I grew a tough skin against it so as not to be hurt anymore. In real life I am respectful of other people to a fault because it is the same way I'd like to be respected.
I feel that most Hearthstone ppl haven't had that same background and generally shrink from any confrontation. I just can't condone that because it defies all logic: making nothing into something. Roping? Sure that IS annoying. BMing? I honestly find it amusing.
Think about how silly it sounds that anyone can be bothered AT ALL by six preset sentences. Really, it's mind boggling.
Sure, but that has been the modus operandi for a long time. Who even plays these pre-constructed decks anyway?
If you are instead referring to the 'battle-ready' decks that were sold for 20 bucks, well that's another thing. If the meta shifts later on, it wouldn't make much sense for team5 to start offering apology notes. Many of them were fairly limited to begin with, like how face hunter has 2x Tame Beast (Rank 1) when this was literally never used in face hunter throughout the barrens meta. I thought many players agreed that if they bought it at all it was because it was offering guaranteed legendaries, not because the decks were relevant for ranking.
That's the thing though, I even got Disks of Legend in the second run. I think I just drew poorly and got a bit unlucky. My original comment definitely comes off more sarcastic than I intended, now that I look at it.
Alright, so the consensus around this topic is fairly obvious. But its not unusual to hold an opinion that BMing in hearthstone is merely for the fun rather than any malicious intent. It reminds me of my old days in school when poking at the weakest, weirdest, or most different kid in the class was part of what kids would call 'good clean fun'. Most of these guys would eventually grow up to be fully functioning adults, not psychopaths.
But nearly, if not all of those guys would think back and regret what they did because let's be honest here, its bullying. It may be minor, and no one was physically hurt, but that doesn't mean it has no consequence to the victim, however small.
The online world is incredibly toxic. Everyone can agree with that. What does that say about us if we actively engage in it, and then go on to tell the other party to grow a thicker skin. Its not about them, its about us as a person.
Which brings us back to this topic. Can we do it? Yes. Should we? Well, that's simply a decision you have to make. Just because everyone is doing it doesnt mean we have to do it too.
There is a huge difference between BMing in online games and BMing in real life. I'm actually the nicest person you'd ever meet who is even soft and practical when other ppl are out of control.
However on games it's a different story. I love playing the part of the irate gamer and though it's not that I am hoping to make anybody upset, I couldnt care any amount less that they do. You should see me on League...
It's a game. Grow a thicker skin. Take it as an opportunity to challenge yourself not to be offended so easily and, hey, maybe even improve your sense of humor.
Don't you guys see how sad it is getting offended by someone you will never know? Think about it for once. The problem is with you not the BMers.
I am not offended when people BM me, but that doesn't mean it doesn't annoy me to some extent. Just because someone is mature and secure with themselves doesn't mean they shouldn't be bothered when someone else does something to them with the sole purpose of being annoying.
The bottom line is that being annoying for no reason other than to annoy someone is immature and childish, regardless of the maturity of the other person.
New Warlock Weapon - Runed Mithril Rod
Again, Warlock naturally draws cards plus your soul shards count as double draw. Very good in control decks.
4 stars
New Warlock Spell - The Demon Seed
I think this quest just naturally goes into a lot of Warlock decks. You do self damage anyways so why not get some healing and reward with it?
4 stars
New Priest Spell - Elekk Mount
Spikeridged steed says hello. However we are in meta with decent amount of transform effects.
2 stars because you'll discover this and sometimes use it
New Priest Minion - Darkbishop Benedictus
Hmmm this card wants Priest to become aggro but how much better is Priest better at aggro than Hunter. Just play Hunter instead.
3 stars just in case
New Paladin Weapon - Prismatic Jewel Kit
Too slow and too situational. You would rather want to play something instead of spending your turn 1 on very delayed +3/+3.
1 star
Fire Sale
Great board clear and it's tradeable
5 stars
Sorcerer's Gambit
I think this is overlooked quest. Mage can easily generate spells and has low cost options. Final reward won't necessarily be late in the game.
4 stars
New Hunter Spell - Ramming Mount
I think we just need to see control Hunter deck work and this card will be very good
4 stars
Do control options need to be re-evaluated
So Tempo decks are essentially ruling the meta right now
1. Azir Irelia 58 percent winrate
2. Zed Sivir 57.5
3. Pirate aggro 58.7
4. leblanc sivir and shen jarvan 56.5
5. discard aggro 56.8
6. Zed Temo 56.3
7. Draven Fizz 57.1
The reality is that there isn't a single slower deck that breaks the 55% winrate barrier, meaning that none of them can be considered A/S tier if we are simple going off statistics
Poor turbo thralls has dropped from a S tier deck to barely a 50% winrate, I think that this is definitely indicative that tempo>control right now
Ideally we would see a healthy balance between these two forces, where opponents who hit the board hard without thinking can get punished
But as it stands right now this simple isn't the case if we go by the numbers
Do we need to start seeing across the board buffs to removal options?
If combat tricks can give a card 3/1 for 1 mana or 3/0 0/3 for two, what about removal buffs?
6 mana vengence, 7 mana reckoning, 4 mana grasp, a P and Z card that does 4 dmg like soul spear
If we look at any of these deck lists none of them are attempting to control out the opponent that's a problem
Let's see one more balance adjustment with a focus on removal options in August
The Duelist Burndown!
the stupidest brawl overall. 99% decided in turn 1
A Roundup of News Related to Hearthstone's United in Stormwind Expansion and Upcoming Content
with the re-introduction of Shadowform, I would like to see the revert of "If already in Shadowform, increase the damage by 1". With Mage getting the bonus to be able to deal up to 3 damage per use of their Hero Power, it only seems right to allow the aggressive form of Priest to do the same thing.
Stormwind Tavern pass with gold?
I think its one of the best deal you can get if you are decently active. And a really fair price. Last season which ofcourse was 1 month longer, i got to lvl 268 with BP. and it got me an extra 2800gold overall with the 20% buff.
So go for it
Priest isn't dead, stop whining
Based on HSReplay priest is the worst class, period. Best deck is 46% winrate.
So yeah, priest is dead.
Blizzard could not nerf the real cultprits - Raise Dead and Palm Reading as both are shadow spells and most likely aimed for the shadow priest archetype they are building, so they cancelled all Priest healing and now while agro can deal 15-25 damage burst Priest is unable to efficiently heal.
Stormwind Tavern pass with gold?
No, this is a source of income for Blizzard for cosmetics
Stormwind Tavern pass with gold?
Nope, nope, and nope
Stormwind Tavern pass with gold?
Anybody know if we will be able to get the Stormwind Tavern pass with gold?
Your Favorite Hero Portrait to BM With
It sounds to me like you are reflecting frustrations from real life back at the world through online BMing. It is good to have an outlet for that, and I agree that emote spamming in HS is a long way from the most damaging approach, but there must be better options that don't drag strangers into something that had nothing to do with them?
It really doesn't matter whether you are confused by their response to BMing. All that matters is that you know it does cause negative responses in some people, so you are knowingly passing your own frustrations onto other people. Maybe that makes you feel better, but shifting annoyances around like this doesn't improve things at a societal level.
In fact, the odds are quite high that the people annoying you at work are doing exactly the same thing: someone annoys them but for whatever reason they cannot resolve it with the people initially at fault, so they pass their annoyances to you by being immature when they encounter you. You then pass it on to people playing HS, who then pass it on to someone else in some other way. Eventually the cycle might come all the way back around to you. It's basically all a diffusion of frustration through society, with each step in the process more tame than the last, but spread to more people. That would be fine if little annoyances didn't accumulate in a way that makes someone as angry as if a single massive thing happened, but they can and they do.
The way to stop this cycle is simply to find ways to vent frustrations that don't pass them onto someone else. For me that might be going for a walk if I just need to calm down a little, or drumming for a while if I need to really thrash it out of me. Do whatever you like for it, just don't keep pretending BMing online is a good solution simply because you don't empathise with the people who find it annoying.
Anyway, I'll stop my side of this discussion there. Hopefully you give some of this stuff some proper thought (especially the comparison between BMing and bullying, which was made independently by 3 people), even if you still end up disagreeing with me.
Your Favorite Hero Portrait to BM With
Hello! Hello, Hello!
HELLO?!
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
Wicked Ones May Double-down Their Evil Whirls!
As for Illusionists Perhaps They Shall Get the Chills!
Nature Nuts Can Go Play With Squirrels!
Deleted Types? How About Focused Wills!
Your Favorite Hero Portrait to BM With
It's arguable that I use online gaming as an outlet for the more immature sides of myself. I work in an industry where I have to be patient and responsible with ppl who are often immature (or crazy). I have to choose my words carefully and do everything holding myself in outstanding dignity.
I really have no empathy for ppl being annoyed by it. I've lived a life where unfortunately people have been very disrespectful to my face and I couldn't do much about it. I grew a tough skin against it so as not to be hurt anymore. In real life I am respectful of other people to a fault because it is the same way I'd like to be respected.
I feel that most Hearthstone ppl haven't had that same background and generally shrink from any confrontation. I just can't condone that because it defies all logic: making nothing into something. Roping? Sure that IS annoying. BMing? I honestly find it amusing.
Think about how silly it sounds that anyone can be bothered AT ALL by six preset sentences. Really, it's mind boggling.
About the pre constructed decks...
Sure, but that has been the modus operandi for a long time. Who even plays these pre-constructed decks anyway?
If you are instead referring to the 'battle-ready' decks that were sold for 20 bucks, well that's another thing. If the meta shifts later on, it wouldn't make much sense for team5 to start offering apology notes. Many of them were fairly limited to begin with, like how face hunter has 2x Tame Beast (Rank 1) when this was literally never used in face hunter throughout the barrens meta. I thought many players agreed that if they bought it at all it was because it was offering guaranteed legendaries, not because the decks were relevant for ranking.
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
yep that's right!
Mid July 12 Win Decks From Hearthstone Duels for Fun and Profit
That's the thing though, I even got Disks of Legend in the second run. I think I just drew poorly and got a bit unlucky. My original comment definitely comes off more sarcastic than I intended, now that I look at it.
Your Favorite Hero Portrait to BM With
Alright, so the consensus around this topic is fairly obvious. But its not unusual to hold an opinion that BMing in hearthstone is merely for the fun rather than any malicious intent. It reminds me of my old days in school when poking at the weakest, weirdest, or most different kid in the class was part of what kids would call 'good clean fun'. Most of these guys would eventually grow up to be fully functioning adults, not psychopaths.
But nearly, if not all of those guys would think back and regret what they did because let's be honest here, its bullying. It may be minor, and no one was physically hurt, but that doesn't mean it has no consequence to the victim, however small.
The online world is incredibly toxic. Everyone can agree with that. What does that say about us if we actively engage in it, and then go on to tell the other party to grow a thicker skin. Its not about them, its about us as a person.
Which brings us back to this topic. Can we do it? Yes. Should we? Well, that's simply a decision you have to make. Just because everyone is doing it doesnt mean we have to do it too.
Your Favorite Hero Portrait to BM With
I am not offended when people BM me, but that doesn't mean it doesn't annoy me to some extent. Just because someone is mature and secure with themselves doesn't mean they shouldn't be bothered when someone else does something to them with the sole purpose of being annoying.
The bottom line is that being annoying for no reason other than to annoy someone is immature and childish, regardless of the maturity of the other person.