Not to mention some minion tribes could thematically work with specific spell schools. For eg: Team 5 prints a new dragon that synergizes with fire spells, or a demon that buffs fel spells.
I actually think that the fact that it is burst speed it actually one of the main issues with Hush and those kind of cards in general. If you look at a game like MTG, I'm not gonna claim the two are identical but the burst speeds equal in that game, known as split second I believe? Is very rare and almost never used. The reason for this is obvious in that it completely shuts out ways to react so it can't be something they allow to get out of hand, and I'm sure with the absurdity that is MTG it has even with the few examples that there are. Hush should for one thing be fast speed and rather than remove it, I think more factions should have ways to impede it. For example not just Targon should have access to spell shield, or not just Ionia should have ways to cancel spells. Even things like the effect that allows you to remove an ally from play would work wonders in the same way that Shurima can with the recently revealed hourglass spell.
Thanks for the decklist, my Maxima Blastenheimer has been crying in the corner collecting dust since I got her as my free legendary on the rewards track. Would really appreciate a deck guide on this site! hint hint 😜
So silence deals the 4 damage to kill anivia in the first place? Like... you go 2 for 1 no matter if you kill the egg with Hush or Death's Hand.
Sure, you can say that a card being op against 1 archetype but bad against others doesn't make it fair, especially if you are the one playing it but can ANYONE say that The Undying is too good on the broad scale? I might have been missing something but I haven't see The Undying being everywhere or take over the meta ever.
Take it for what it is: a niche tech card for control metas it's not more but also not less.
And for the argument that the other champions die to other removal aswell: other removal tends to not be 3 mana burst speed turn the unit useless and make it easy to kill this turn (especially if you are on the blocks)
Stunning a unit at fast speed costs about 3 mana and it's less devestating... just saying
ol, when my wife says the d-word I still pause and tense up even just at home. That rule has been put on hold for now, looking forward to getting some d's when we get back in the office, though. (Source)
You're over simplifying the case with Anivia a bit there for one thing. It isn't just a case of dealing 1 more damage, it is a case of dealing 4 damage followed by 1. You have to have either a challenger or two spells at the ready, and you have to do so at a very opportune moment. As for The Undying I don't see polarizing a card as making it balanced. Just because a card is good in one match and is bad in another doesn't mean counter play doesn't need to exist. I am not saying silence should exist in the form that they have it now, but I don't believe removing it from the game entirely is the answer either. Also outside of Tryndamere the five you named are all able to be removed through normal means unlike The Undying or even (not that its a strong card at this moment) Commander Ledros. Its true that Fiora is hard to deal with at times but that is the cards around her that are causing issues I'd say rather than she herself.
I might be blind but how is it ever necessary to run silence against Anivia? The egg has literally 1 health so all you effectively do with hush is deal 1 damage at burst speed...
The Undying however is and will always be the most polarizing card in LoR. The The Undying archetype is plain terrible against aggro and midrange but beats control quite well. The card doesn't need silence to be fair, it's fair on it's own.
Also does silence most likely not stop The Undying because it gets replicated at burst speed.
You're compensated by having both your old cards (which you can dust) and getting the new core set for free.
When we made the decision to purchase at a point of time, and that product later gets discounted or retired, I don't think its even remotely logical to then demand for compensation, especially since we're talking about products that have existed way beyond 1 year.
Why would I hold to something that I can't play? I'm not a Wild player, And, Classic set will be unusable to me personally, because I can't play wild with only Classic set, so everything unusable to me is automatically dusted, which was the whole point I'm trying to say. And to tell the truth, I don't feel very 'compensated' with that ~1/4 value of my own collections. I owned all those cards, is it not fair if I get the same value out of my own collections?
And no, I'm only gonna discuss the classic set. I don't really have personal opinion on the Core set as of now. (whether it's good or bad)
This card is objectively better than Withering Wail as you can use it more often than Wail. The only times I think that it has a downside is when the enemies have one health or when you are fighting burn. This card hits more often as it deals 2 damage, causes the enemies to have -2 attack so even if they save the minion it's still going to be doing way less damage and blocking with minions also means it takes 2 less, and also it's burst speed so there's not a lot of good counterplay. Though this card isn't as good against a deck that's just Burn or uses a lot of direct damage like PnZ burn decks. The burn damage is consistent and healing 3 is often much better in those cases.
Your analysis of Champions vs. Legendaries is very sound.
I left this comment before the post was updated with the new images of what the cosmetics will look like (I agree it's not anything too special), but I really just thought it was neat that Riot is putting in this little encouragement to play with all of the cards...which, unlike Hearthstone, they also encourage you to have free if you play enough.
I also left this comment when my frustration with Hearthstone was at an all-time high, and have since quit the game. So it can and should be taken with a grain of salt.
A Non-Spoilery Recap of Hearthstone's Fun Segments at BlizzConline
Yep, due to it not being that HS specific as you point out (besides a very small bit). Carbot is always fun to watch though, so it's a good mention!
Dean Ayala's Community Q&A #7 - Alliance, Classic Mode's Future Potential, Secrets in Other Classes
As Warlock is my favorite class to play (no, not controlock), secrets sounds awful for the class theme.
Core today?
Is this the "reveal" day?
Chadd Nervig & Ben Lee Talk Core Set, Spell Schools in Mini Set, Battlegrounds Cosmetics, and More!
Those are some fun candidates. But... poor Bob, how could we do it to him?
Vol'jin Secret Hunter Deck List and Guide - Memes and Dreams #9
Nice job. Finally a use for Maxima, mine is golden even, had thought about dusting her.
I only dare to play this casual but it's fun nonetheless.
King Krush is just clumsy though, especially if Maxima pulls him out. Waste of charge and no deathrattle.
Forged in the Barrens
Not to mention some minion tribes could thematically work with specific spell schools. For eg: Team 5 prints a new dragon that synergizes with fire spells, or a demon that buffs fel spells.
Forged in the Barrens
For those interested in the number of spells per school, here's a breakdown:
https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/news/23622607/welcome-to-the-year-of-the-gryphon
Is Targon Ruining Your Enjoyment Of The Game?
I actually think that the fact that it is burst speed it actually one of the main issues with Hush and those kind of cards in general. If you look at a game like MTG, I'm not gonna claim the two are identical but the burst speeds equal in that game, known as split second I believe? Is very rare and almost never used. The reason for this is obvious in that it completely shuts out ways to react so it can't be something they allow to get out of hand, and I'm sure with the absurdity that is MTG it has even with the few examples that there are. Hush should for one thing be fast speed and rather than remove it, I think more factions should have ways to impede it. For example not just Targon should have access to spell shield, or not just Ionia should have ways to cancel spells. Even things like the effect that allows you to remove an ally from play would work wonders in the same way that Shurima can with the recently revealed hourglass spell.
Vol'jin Secret Hunter Deck List and Guide - Memes and Dreams #9
Thanks for the decklist, my Maxima Blastenheimer has been crying in the corner collecting dust since I got her as my free legendary on the rewards track. Would really appreciate a deck guide on this site! hint hint 😜
Is Targon Ruining Your Enjoyment Of The Game?
So silence deals the 4 damage to kill anivia in the first place? Like... you go 2 for 1 no matter if you kill the egg with Hush or Death's Hand.
Sure, you can say that a card being op against 1 archetype but bad against others doesn't make it fair, especially if you are the one playing it but can ANYONE say that The Undying is too good on the broad scale? I might have been missing something but I haven't see The Undying being everywhere or take over the meta ever.
Take it for what it is: a niche tech card for control metas it's not more but also not less.
And for the argument that the other champions die to other removal aswell: other removal tends to not be 3 mana burst speed turn the unit useless and make it easy to kill this turn (especially if you are on the blocks)
Stunning a unit at fast speed costs about 3 mana and it's less devestating... just saying
Dean Ayala's Community Q&A #7 - Alliance, Classic Mode's Future Potential, Secrets in Other Classes
Dirty mind enabled
Well... this just got awkward... (and NSFW 😅)
6pack
For sure there was a reason why I put that name on that pack but unable to find it out now xD
Don't know, maybe the abs of Walking Fountain?
Dean Ayala's Community Q&A #7 - Alliance, Classic Mode's Future Potential, Secrets in Other Classes
YAAAAARRRR, INSECT!!!
Is Targon Ruining Your Enjoyment Of The Game?
You're over simplifying the case with Anivia a bit there for one thing. It isn't just a case of dealing 1 more damage, it is a case of dealing 4 damage followed by 1. You have to have either a challenger or two spells at the ready, and you have to do so at a very opportune moment. As for The Undying I don't see polarizing a card as making it balanced. Just because a card is good in one match and is bad in another doesn't mean counter play doesn't need to exist. I am not saying silence should exist in the form that they have it now, but I don't believe removing it from the game entirely is the answer either. Also outside of Tryndamere the five you named are all able to be removed through normal means unlike The Undying or even (not that its a strong card at this moment) Commander Ledros. Its true that Fiora is hard to deal with at times but that is the cards around her that are causing issues I'd say rather than she herself.
Is Targon Ruining Your Enjoyment Of The Game?
I might be blind but how is it ever necessary to run silence against Anivia? The egg has literally 1 health so all you effectively do with hush is deal 1 damage at burst speed...
The Undying however is and will always be the most polarizing card in LoR. The The Undying archetype is plain terrible against aggro and midrange but beats control quite well. The card doesn't need silence to be fair, it's fair on it's own.
Also does silence most likely not stop The Undying because it gets replicated at burst speed.
Better examples of cards that get wrecked by silence are lvl 1 Vi, Fiora Tryndamere Riven Taric...
Vol'jin Secret Hunter Deck List and Guide - Memes and Dreams #9
In WoW, it's a toy tank = to-nk. I don't know any other explanation behind the name either.
Reality check: Core isn't saving everyone money
Why would I hold to something that I can't play? I'm not a Wild player, And, Classic set will be unusable to me personally, because I can't play wild with only Classic set, so everything unusable to me is automatically dusted, which was the whole point I'm trying to say. And to tell the truth, I don't feel very 'compensated' with that ~1/4 value of my own collections. I owned all those cards, is it not fair if I get the same value out of my own collections?
And no, I'm only gonna discuss the classic set. I don't really have personal opinion on the Core set as of now. (whether it's good or bad)
Goog Idea
Dean Ayala's Community Q&A #7 - Alliance, Classic Mode's Future Potential, Secrets in Other Classes
I don't use Twitter, so thank you Flux for putting everything all together in a simple-to-read format. : )
Vol'jin Secret Hunter Deck List and Guide - Memes and Dreams #9
Here's my version with Maxima (full BIG minions)
### BIG Memes
# Class: Hunter
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Phoenix
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# 2x (1) Demon Companion
# 2x (1) Tracking
# 2x (2) Explosive Trap
# 2x (2) Open the Cages
# 2x (2) Snake Trap
# 2x (3) Animal Companion
# 2x (3) Desert Spear
# 2x (3) Petting Zoo
# 2x (3) Unleash the Hounds
# 1x (4) Rinling's Rifle
# 1x (5) Shadow Hunter Vol'jin
# 1x (6) Maxima Blastenheimer
# 2x (7) Darkmoon Tonk
# 1x (8) Jewel of N'Zoth
# 2x (8) Plagued Protodrake
# 1x (9) King Krush
# 1x (10) Colossus of the Moon
# 2x (10) Scrapyard Colossus
#
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#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
Vol'jin Secret Hunter Deck List and Guide - Memes and Dreams #9
As far as I know, yes. I am pretty sure Tonk is just a very silly version of 'tank'.
New Shurima Spell - Spirit Fire
This card is objectively better than Withering Wail as you can use it more often than Wail. The only times I think that it has a downside is when the enemies have one health or when you are fighting burn. This card hits more often as it deals 2 damage, causes the enemies to have -2 attack so even if they save the minion it's still going to be doing way less damage and blocking with minions also means it takes 2 less, and also it's burst speed so there's not a lot of good counterplay. Though this card isn't as good against a deck that's just Burn or uses a lot of direct damage like PnZ burn decks. The burn damage is consistent and healing 3 is often much better in those cases.
Vol'jin Secret Hunter Deck List and Guide - Memes and Dreams #9
I only just realized, thanks to your joke... is Darkmoon Tonk a play on Tank? Is it that dumb?
The Thunder King Shaman Hero + Stolen Thunder Card Back and Thrall Card Back Are Now Available in the Hearthstone Shop
It thinks I don't have it.
How Champion Mastery Works in Legends of Runeterra
Your analysis of Champions vs. Legendaries is very sound.
I left this comment before the post was updated with the new images of what the cosmetics will look like (I agree it's not anything too special), but I really just thought it was neat that Riot is putting in this little encouragement to play with all of the cards...which, unlike Hearthstone, they also encourage you to have free if you play enough.
I also left this comment when my frustration with Hearthstone was at an all-time high, and have since quit the game. So it can and should be taken with a grain of salt.