Again, I agree that it is good for the game overall but the snarky and sarcastic comments are not constructive, I was trying to point out an impact that the update has on a deck that many people in wild enjoy, I did not say that was a negative change to the game overall. It seems you are employing a straw man argument by implying that I was complaining about the change or saying it was a negative change when I did not do that, I merely stated an observation that might matter to certain players. If someone does like odd shaman, then they might not realize this change affects their deck so I was trying to be nice and point it out so that maybe they can get in a few more games with the deck before it is nerfed. I don’t think all these standard players’ snark and sarcasm is useful, if you are the majority of players that don’t play wild or odd shaman just ignore my observation instead of having to put in your snarky and sarcastic comments. The comment with the observation on odd shaman was not directed at those players and them responding with sarcasm and snark basically ruined my image of the out of cards standard community.
I was a member of hearthpwn for years but never commented there because I saw so many snarky and sarcastic comments like this there. I thought out of cards did not have this but I guess I was wrong. I do have to say I highly apprecitate the wild community specifically here, I am on out of cards for about a year and I never saw a single comment like that on a wild thread. It’s not that bad in the grand scheme of things, but I don’t want to post neutral observations like “odd shaman is worse without air totem” and then have multiple snarky and sarcastic responses from people who don’t even play that deck.
I’m looking for constructive discussions, for example if someone disagreed and made a logical argument for how odd shaman could remain competitive without the spell damage totem I would be open minded and read it with joy. But the 2 comments I got with the snark and sarcasm are not constructive at all.
It's probably indicative of a special event of some kind, kinda like how in games like Slay the Spire or Monster Train, you can see which level is a shop, an upgrade, a random event or something like that. Maybe a blue gem indicates that you'll get an active treasure for beating it, maybe the red gem indicates you'll be transported to a form of Bob's Tavern, and maybe the spikes on top of some of the icons indicate they're a mini-boss.
It's a poor explanation on my part, but I don't know how exactly to say this. Hopefully you understood what I meant.
Look, a change to the game was made, and now different decks will be viable. That is just how these games work. I personally think overall this new totem will be better for the game, and if that means losing one good deck, then that's how it's gotta be.
From a strictly mechanical standpoint, the change makes sense. In a deck with little to no damaging spells, Wrath of Air Totem is useless. And in a deck like Odd shaman (or any other deck with a lot of damaging spells) Wrath of Air Totem is far and beyond the most powerful of them all. Now since all of the totems affect the your minions, Shaman's Hero Power should be much more consistent in it's utility and power level across all shaman archetypes.
It's like a wise alien once said: "The good of the many outweigh the good of the few". It is sad to see Odd Shaman get nerfed (I enjoyed that deck as well) but overall this is a positive change for shaman as a class.
I don't understand why they changed the Shaman hero power. It was phrased as a buff in the announcement, but it isn't, right? If it were a buff, they'd replace Searing Totem, the option with the least utility (Shamans rarely hero power for stats).
Not only does the change cramp Shaman's flavor and class fantasy, Spell Damage Shaman has JUST become a thing. This seems to refute everything that Thrall is about currently.
Novice Zapper is nice to see, though. Dust Devil, take your rightful comeuppance! Go sit on the naughty step.
I agree Hearthstone's 'do nothing' game plan isn't great, but I really don't like that I can't choose the targets of my attacks. Something in between would probably be best.
It is a fun deck, I’m just looking at the wildside wild meta snapshot and even reno hunter is in tier 3 while reno hunter with the double brann combo for 2 King Krushes on turn 10 was tier 2. I guess I was happy to have reno hunter in tier 2 which is decent and the new version though fun seems to be less competitive.
It was not a meme, it was the strongest shaman deck in wild, and plenty of people reached legend with it. This is what I don’t like, if you don’t know about wild just ignore posts about it, what is the point of the post sarcastically saying oh no not odd shaman other than just to make wild players feel bad? It doesn’t seem like a nice thing to do. I wasn’t claiming in the original post that blizzard shouldn’t remove the air totem, I was just saying an observation about a wild deck. It’s not even my personal favorite deck but I think it’s an interesting fact and the audience for that comment was supposed to be wild players. Standard players should ignore posts about wild that clearly do not say anything about standard, there is nothing constructive about sarcastically rubbing it in to wild players that a wild deck is getting nerfed due to standard considerations. It’s true that blizzard should focus on standard with balancing for standard but the replies I got from standard players are not constructive.
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Again, I agree that it is good for the game overall but the snarky and sarcastic comments are not constructive, I was trying to point out an impact that the update has on a deck that many people in wild enjoy, I did not say that was a negative change to the game overall. It seems you are employing a straw man argument by implying that I was complaining about the change or saying it was a negative change when I did not do that, I merely stated an observation that might matter to certain players. If someone does like odd shaman, then they might not realize this change affects their deck so I was trying to be nice and point it out so that maybe they can get in a few more games with the deck before it is nerfed. I don’t think all these standard players’ snark and sarcasm is useful, if you are the majority of players that don’t play wild or odd shaman just ignore my observation instead of having to put in your snarky and sarcastic comments. The comment with the observation on odd shaman was not directed at those players and them responding with sarcasm and snark basically ruined my image of the out of cards standard community.
I was a member of hearthpwn for years but never commented there because I saw so many snarky and sarcastic comments like this there. I thought out of cards did not have this but I guess I was wrong. I do have to say I highly apprecitate the wild community specifically here, I am on out of cards for about a year and I never saw a single comment like that on a wild thread. It’s not that bad in the grand scheme of things, but I don’t want to post neutral observations like “odd shaman is worse without air totem” and then have multiple snarky and sarcastic responses from people who don’t even play that deck.
I’m looking for constructive discussions, for example if someone disagreed and made a logical argument for how odd shaman could remain competitive without the spell damage totem I would be open minded and read it with joy. But the 2 comments I got with the snark and sarcasm are not constructive at all.
Peon
He's just the messenger ♟
New Priest Spell - Desperate Prayer
Just as reminder, they are ways to change healing into damage.
Imp Swarm (Rank 1)
"Come at me bro!"
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It's probably indicative of a special event of some kind, kinda like how in games like Slay the Spire or Monster Train, you can see which level is a shop, an upgrade, a random event or something like that. Maybe a blue gem indicates that you'll get an active treasure for beating it, maybe the red gem indicates you'll be transported to a form of Bob's Tavern, and maybe the spikes on top of some of the icons indicate they're a mini-boss.
It's a poor explanation on my part, but I don't know how exactly to say this. Hopefully you understood what I meant.
Imp Swarm (Rank 3)
Now THAT is a banging Imp Gang Boss
New Warlock Spell - Imp Swarm (Rank 1)
Will easily see play in Tokenlock
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Look, a change to the game was made, and now different decks will be viable. That is just how these games work. I personally think overall this new totem will be better for the game, and if that means losing one good deck, then that's how it's gotta be.
From a strictly mechanical standpoint, the change makes sense. In a deck with little to no damaging spells, Wrath of Air Totem is useless. And in a deck like Odd shaman (or any other deck with a lot of damaging spells) Wrath of Air Totem is far and beyond the most powerful of them all. Now since all of the totems affect the your minions, Shaman's Hero Power should be much more consistent in it's utility and power level across all shaman archetypes.
It's like a wise alien once said: "The good of the many outweigh the good of the few". It is sad to see Odd Shaman get nerfed (I enjoyed that deck as well) but overall this is a positive change for shaman as a class.
New Druid Minion - Druid of the Plains
6/7 taunt with a "battlecry" to deal 7 dmg to a minion is mediocre? you have pretty high standards lol
Desperate Prayer
That's some nice karma.
Hearthstone Patch 19.6 - High Abbess Alura Nerfed, Barrens Pre-Order, Darkmoon Prizes is Over, Duels Balance, and More!
How is nobody excited that we finally got a Tauren hero portrait?
BlizzConline's Hearthstone Year of the Gryphon Deep Dive Panel Live Recap - More New Cards
I don't understand why they changed the Shaman hero power. It was phrased as a buff in the announcement, but it isn't, right? If it were a buff, they'd replace Searing Totem, the option with the least utility (Shamans rarely hero power for stats).
Not only does the change cramp Shaman's flavor and class fantasy, Spell Damage Shaman has JUST become a thing. This seems to refute everything that Thrall is about currently.
Novice Zapper is nice to see, though. Dust Devil, take your rightful comeuppance! Go sit on the naughty step.
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I, for one, thought Tip the Scales should have been nerfed. It's not that I happen to have a golden copy... No, definitely reasons. Other than that.
Sweet sweet dust.
Hearthstone Patch 19.6 - High Abbess Alura Nerfed, Barrens Pre-Order, Darkmoon Prizes is Over, Duels Balance, and More!
Not the same thing, but yes, mechs needed some boost, they dont really have a late game anymore. Not sure if this will help tho.
Novice Zapper
New high for 1 mana pool
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I agree Hearthstone's 'do nothing' game plan isn't great, but I really don't like that I can't choose the targets of my attacks. Something in between would probably be best.
Hearthstone Patch 19.6 - High Abbess Alura Nerfed, Barrens Pre-Order, Darkmoon Prizes is Over, Duels Balance, and More!
It is a fun deck, I’m just looking at the wildside wild meta snapshot and even reno hunter is in tier 3 while reno hunter with the double brann combo for 2 King Krushes on turn 10 was tier 2. I guess I was happy to have reno hunter in tier 2 which is decent and the new version though fun seems to be less competitive.
New Shaman Minion - Novice Zapper
I was hoping a 1/3, but I guess they want to contrast it to Mage's tempo
New Rogue Minion - Vanessa VanCleef
This is will a great tool against secrets.
Vanessa VanCleef
She is offering dagger-shaped ice cream bars 🍦
Hearthstone Patch 19.6 - High Abbess Alura Nerfed, Barrens Pre-Order, Darkmoon Prizes is Over, Duels Balance, and More!
The dinotamer brann nerf was actually a buff to many - even highlander hunter is a fun deck!
New Warlock Minion - Felsoul Jailer
Felsoul Jailer, surprised it doesnt have a Soul Fragment interaction
Everything You Need to Know About Hearthstone's Mercenaries Game Mode
I wonder what's up with the gems over the map icons.
BlizzConline's Hearthstone Year of the Gryphon Deep Dive Panel Live Recap - More New Cards
It was not a meme, it was the strongest shaman deck in wild, and plenty of people reached legend with it. This is what I don’t like, if you don’t know about wild just ignore posts about it, what is the point of the post sarcastically saying oh no not odd shaman other than just to make wild players feel bad? It doesn’t seem like a nice thing to do. I wasn’t claiming in the original post that blizzard shouldn’t remove the air totem, I was just saying an observation about a wild deck. It’s not even my personal favorite deck but I think it’s an interesting fact and the audience for that comment was supposed to be wild players. Standard players should ignore posts about wild that clearly do not say anything about standard, there is nothing constructive about sarcastically rubbing it in to wild players that a wild deck is getting nerfed due to standard considerations. It’s true that blizzard should focus on standard with balancing for standard but the replies I got from standard players are not constructive.
Felsoul Jailer
Mother of saturation! 😵