OoC is definitely where it’s at if you want level headed discussions about the various card games the site is dedicated to.
I only actively play Hearthstone, so comparing this forum to others like Reddit and Hearthpwn is night and day. On OoC we don’t have hundreds of posts complaining about the new Mage hero, but in contrast we also don’t have posts that really (if ever) break 100 plus comments. The Reddit (and the site as a whole) feels more like a place where people go to just complain about a children’s card game because they’ve let it affect their lives so much.
Looking at Hearthpwn, it still looks the same as it did when I first ever visited it. No updates to the site layout, nothing innovative, and it honestly feels like those random abandoned forums that litter the internet. It might have something to do with their best web programmer leaving or something, I don’t know ;)
There’s also more original content on the site, ranging from the Card Design Competitions, class reworks, and mode/format creations. People here put effort into what they create, you can tell if you compare it to r/customhearthstone.
Lastly, as of now the site feels more like a community, like I’m familiar with the usernames of the people on this site to kind of assume their mannerisms, attitudes, and what they like to talk about. DoubleSummon can sometimes come off as an abrasive cynic, but he means well. Anytime I see RavenSunHS’s name on anything I automatically think it’s something Wild related because some of the decks he’s made. Whereas anywhere else they’d be just “another face in the crowd”
Looks like Mythgard is not currently available on iOS :( I see hints in their discord that indicate that it was pulled from iOS due to issues, with no ETA for a fix.
About decks, I wonder how well positioned are OoC's decks in Google.
It's really tough to compete on that end when you have sites dominating the listing due to being around for at least 6 years, unfortunately. Hearthstone is an oversaturated market with a declining playerbase =(
Dude that isn't a nerf, it just puts it in line with bannerman and every other allegience card, can you only post when you have a clue what you're talking about k thanks bye. Not to mention high level players are talking about the exact same thing, new set = pointless.
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Think for yourself, for once. Swim isn't gonna tell you to which milk to buy.
It would be perfectly cheeky and petty if Swim released a milk tier list on his front page.
That's pretty cool. I didn't really mention it in the article, but Mythgard also lets you see ladder games, up to 100 if I'm not mistaken, and you can even watch them live (you can't see either player's hands, for obvious reasons). The only downside is that they can't be saved after a nerf/buff, but that's a technical limitation.
You always have control over Vargoth. As a tempo deck you're mostly going to be clearing the board, so if you have stuck a Vargoth and want to buff you need to clear to be sure but generally that's how you're going to be playing anyways, and a double-cast buff is going to snowball the board control anyways. Of course, you don't necessarily need to risk it, there's less risky cards like renew and raise dead you can utilize and your opponent will always scramble to remove Vargoth so even if you don't get a crazy amount of value from his ability he's going to eat some kind of removal basically guaranteed.
Also worth mentioning Vargoth counts spells before he was played like Kael'thas, so if you raise dead into a Vargoth you can play the Vargoth to get another raise dead cast. Make sure not to put yourself in the rez pool though.
I agree that I'd like to see more activity in the forums, I visit the site daily but in 24 h there are usually very few new posts (I play only Hearthstone so I don't bother about posts related to other games). In the past I created a new thread each season to discuss about our ladder climb and the threads were quite active, so we all can contribute with new interesting topics to discuss... but nowadays I don't have a lot of free time and I just check the news and the forums (quickly).
About decks, I wonder how well positioned are OoC's decks in Google. I'm no SEO expert but maybe the algorithm to generate the title of deck pages could be optimized and matched to what people are searching; the more people finding the decks, the more people commenting them and maybe contributing. I guess Flux & Co are looking into it, but well, if decks are not faring well, then maybe it's time to optimize deck-relevant pages (also layout-wise, not only SEO-wise), or getting more decks posted (for example, inviting pros or popular streamers to post their decks, or running a deck-creation contest).
Anyway OoC's is the only HS-related site I visit, and I still enjoy the site and the community. But of course there is some room for improvement, even if the number of HS players is shrinking.
It's amusing to me that when people ask for features the community jokes that *insert game/dev* is just a small indie game/dev and it's outside their means when we see these features implemented more often in the small indie games...
Duelyst, a card game played on a board shared some of these features, namely the web play mode so you could login anywhere (cough* work/school) and play. It also had match history and replays which HS sorely lacks but only for the last 10 matches I think, and didn't have a complete deck statistical history which is nice.
One thing it did have though which was a game changer to me, especially for a smaller game where it's harder to find those online resources, was a built-in match history for all the leagues/tiers, whatever you wanted to call them, of the last 10 games, 4 of the cards played from the deck, and you could watch a replay of the match from either players perspective. Basically you could see the meta at any time at any rank and basically have guides just from watching the best players play the decks out in real replays. Very cool. It's much more fun to "go fishing" for a new deck by watching someone in high ranks cheese a win with something goofy and then build it yourself then to find a proof of concept online.
I tend not to post a lot in forums, but I do lurk them almost every day. Imo OOC is generally my fav over Hearthpwn. OOC's original content (news, articles, etc.) tends to be dramatically better than Hearthpwn's. And while OOC tends to have less people talking in threads, the discussions are more positive and a lot less salty most of the time. When it comes to decks, both sites are mostly the same since a lot of people cross-post decklists on both sites, though Hearthpwn has slightly more decks overall. I will say personally having used both deckbuilders, I like OOC's A LOT more.
While most of your points are valid, lets not forget Hush only lasts for 1 turn. So that means if a player wish to eliminate the unit that has been silenced, he either has to: 1- Somehow force a trade using a better unit; 2- Cast a second removal spell.
Case 1: One possible counter play is to chain a fast removal on the target threatening your unit. Another possibility is to answer with another spell yourself like FreezeBADCARDNAME or buffs, thou sometimes that last approach won't work due multiple Hush casts and that's alright. Case 2: Thats a 2-1 trade on top of having a very expensive mana cost. Looks fair to me.
What trully makes Hush strong is the fact it can be cast multiple times in a single Turn. Riot is currently looking into it, and a possible change is to price a steep cost for for each consecutive cast, which i think it would be a fine solution.
Yep, I'm here because of the nice atmosphere. People are friendly and helpful, the saltiness is at a reasonable level and the original content is miles above the other site. Some more activity on the forums would be fun, but since I never post anything myself I won't point any finger at anyone.
It feels so refreshing and strong actually. I used to play Quest Reno Mage before the nerf then I switched to Reno Warlock. Recently I crafted the Jaina DK but I was struggling to create a strong list (I used the dragon package but as you said somewhere... it's not good enough justify its inclusion).
I don't have Ragnaros but I have the Jan'alai, the Dragonhawk so I use it instead but I feel it very clunky most of the times. I do love the synergy with the DK and Brann but still feels like taking eternity to be activated.
However I have the prime and I feel most of the times it turns the games in the positive (for me when I play it) direction. Do you have a replace suggestion(s)? The Starscryer perhaps?
Well i check the site almost everyday (browse through forums or look up some decks) - only exception is if im on vacation :)
Checked it a lot lateley because of the Design Competition and more frequently around a expansion but i still check the news or new Posts but only regarding Hearthstone.
Is Out Of Cards where it's at?
OoC is definitely where it’s at if you want level headed discussions about the various card games the site is dedicated to.
I only actively play Hearthstone, so comparing this forum to others like Reddit and Hearthpwn is night and day. On OoC we don’t have hundreds of posts complaining about the new Mage hero, but in contrast we also don’t have posts that really (if ever) break 100 plus comments. The Reddit (and the site as a whole) feels more like a place where people go to just complain about a children’s card game because they’ve let it affect their lives so much.
Looking at Hearthpwn, it still looks the same as it did when I first ever visited it. No updates to the site layout, nothing innovative, and it honestly feels like those random abandoned forums that litter the internet. It might have something to do with their best web programmer leaving or something, I don’t know ;)
There’s also more original content on the site, ranging from the Card Design Competitions, class reworks, and mode/format creations. People here put effort into what they create, you can tell if you compare it to r/customhearthstone.
Lastly, as of now the site feels more like a community, like I’m familiar with the usernames of the people on this site to kind of assume their mannerisms, attitudes, and what they like to talk about. DoubleSummon can sometimes come off as an abrasive cynic, but he means well. Anytime I see RavenSunHS’s name on anything I automatically think it’s something Wild related because some of the decks he’s made. Whereas anywhere else they’d be just “another face in the crowd”
Rings of Immortality Launched on Friday, Here's Free Pack Codes for New and Old Mythgard Players
Looks like Mythgard is not currently available on iOS :( I see hints in their discord that indicate that it was pulled from iOS due to issues, with no ETA for a fix.
Find the Missing Crew in Our Pirate Word Search
I love these wordsearches! Keep them up! n Makes me actually want to play some Classic Wow though...
Hearthstone Grandmasters 2020 Season 2 - Week 5 Recap
Completely forgot that Lucentbark was still in Standard. Props to Che0nsu for trying some unique material, even if it didn't work out.
Is Out Of Cards where it's at?
It's really tough to compete on that end when you have sites dominating the listing due to being around for at least 6 years, unfortunately. Hearthstone is an oversaturated market with a declining playerbase =(
Giants shaman
I am playing something very similar at D5 ranks. Only I put in Vessina for the final slam or to recover from a swarm attack
Why No Bilgewater Nerfs?
It would be perfectly cheeky and petty if Swim released a milk tier list on his front page.
Mythgard is Ahead of the Curve with These Quality of Life Features
That's pretty cool. I didn't really mention it in the article, but Mythgard also lets you see ladder games, up to 100 if I'm not mistaken, and you can even watch them live (you can't see either player's hands, for obvious reasons). The only downside is that they can't be saved after a nerf/buff, but that's a technical limitation.
Tempo priest
You always have control over Vargoth. As a tempo deck you're mostly going to be clearing the board, so if you have stuck a Vargoth and want to buff you need to clear to be sure but generally that's how you're going to be playing anyways, and a double-cast buff is going to snowball the board control anyways. Of course, you don't necessarily need to risk it, there's less risky cards like renew and raise dead you can utilize and your opponent will always scramble to remove Vargoth so even if you don't get a crazy amount of value from his ability he's going to eat some kind of removal basically guaranteed.
Also worth mentioning Vargoth counts spells before he was played like Kael'thas, so if you raise dead into a Vargoth you can play the Vargoth to get another raise dead cast. Make sure not to put yourself in the rez pool though.
Is Out Of Cards where it's at?
I agree that I'd like to see more activity in the forums, I visit the site daily but in 24 h there are usually very few new posts (I play only Hearthstone so I don't bother about posts related to other games). In the past I created a new thread each season to discuss about our ladder climb and the threads were quite active, so we all can contribute with new interesting topics to discuss... but nowadays I don't have a lot of free time and I just check the news and the forums (quickly).
About decks, I wonder how well positioned are OoC's decks in Google. I'm no SEO expert but maybe the algorithm to generate the title of deck pages could be optimized and matched to what people are searching; the more people finding the decks, the more people commenting them and maybe contributing. I guess Flux & Co are looking into it, but well, if decks are not faring well, then maybe it's time to optimize deck-relevant pages (also layout-wise, not only SEO-wise), or getting more decks posted (for example, inviting pros or popular streamers to post their decks, or running a deck-creation contest).
Anyway OoC's is the only HS-related site I visit, and I still enjoy the site and the community. But of course there is some room for improvement, even if the number of HS players is shrinking.
Find the Missing Crew in Our Pirate Word Search
This was great. Thanks for the fun!
Mythgard is Ahead of the Curve with These Quality of Life Features
It's amusing to me that when people ask for features the community jokes that *insert game/dev* is just a small indie game/dev and it's outside their means when we see these features implemented more often in the small indie games...
Duelyst, a card game played on a board shared some of these features, namely the web play mode so you could login anywhere (cough* work/school) and play. It also had match history and replays which HS sorely lacks but only for the last 10 matches I think, and didn't have a complete deck statistical history which is nice.
One thing it did have though which was a game changer to me, especially for a smaller game where it's harder to find those online resources, was a built-in match history for all the leagues/tiers, whatever you wanted to call them, of the last 10 games, 4 of the cards played from the deck, and you could watch a replay of the match from either players perspective. Basically you could see the meta at any time at any rank and basically have guides just from watching the best players play the decks out in real replays. Very cool. It's much more fun to "go fishing" for a new deck by watching someone in high ranks cheese a win with something goofy and then build it yourself then to find a proof of concept online.
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
Animal Companion?
Find the Missing Crew in Our Pirate Word Search
AHOY!
Is Out Of Cards where it's at?
I tend not to post a lot in forums, but I do lurk them almost every day. Imo OOC is generally my fav over Hearthpwn. OOC's original content (news, articles, etc.) tends to be dramatically better than Hearthpwn's. And while OOC tends to have less people talking in threads, the discussions are more positive and a lot less salty most of the time. When it comes to decks, both sites are mostly the same since a lot of people cross-post decklists on both sites, though Hearthpwn has slightly more decks overall. I will say personally having used both deckbuilders, I like OOC's A LOT more.
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
Lord Jaraxxus?
Targon's new mechanic Spellshield and Hush seem very problematic
While most of your points are valid, lets not forget Hush only lasts for 1 turn. So that means if a player wish to eliminate the unit that has been silenced, he either has to:
1- Somehow force a trade using a better unit;
2- Cast a second removal spell.
Case 1: One possible counter play is to chain a fast removal on the target threatening your unit. Another possibility is to answer with another spell yourself like FreezeBADCARDNAME or buffs, thou sometimes that last approach won't work due multiple Hush casts and that's alright.
Case 2: Thats a 2-1 trade on top of having a very expensive mana cost. Looks fair to me.
What trully makes Hush strong is the fact it can be cast multiple times in a single Turn.
Riot is currently looking into it, and a possible change is to price a steep cost for for each consecutive cast, which i think it would be a fine solution.
Is Out Of Cards where it's at?
Yep, I'm here because of the nice atmosphere. People are friendly and helpful, the saltiness is at a reasonable level and the original content is miles above the other site. Some more activity on the forums would be fun, but since I never post anything myself I won't point any finger at anyone.
[Game] Card Treasure Hunt (The Resurrection Attempt)
I have no idea at all. I assume it is an anagram for a card?
Is Out Of Cards where it's at?
Lots of valid and well made replies here, highlighting to me why this community at OOC is the best in the business for mature players.
Cheers
Legendary Reno DK Mage
Dude, thanks for the list.
It feels so refreshing and strong actually. I used to play Quest Reno Mage before the nerf then I switched to Reno Warlock. Recently I crafted the Jaina DK but I was struggling to create a strong list (I used the dragon package but as you said somewhere... it's not good enough justify its inclusion).
I don't have Ragnaros but I have the Jan'alai, the Dragonhawk so I use it instead but I feel it very clunky most of the times. I do love the synergy with the DK and Brann but still feels like taking eternity to be activated.
However I have the prime and I feel most of the times it turns the games in the positive (for me when I play it) direction. Do you have a replace suggestion(s)? The Starscryer perhaps?
Tempo priest
Nice deck! I have also tried similar concepts but without much success.
I'm surprised by Vargoth, as targets are random, you could buff enemy minions. Is it performing well?
Is Out Of Cards where it's at?
Well i check the site almost everyday (browse through forums or look up some decks) - only exception is if im on vacation :)
Checked it a lot lateley because of the Design Competition and more frequently around a expansion but i still check the news or new Posts but only regarding Hearthstone.
Pure Of Heart - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
Ah ok thx, i thought it would be like in the voting phase where i do not see my own card so i could not vote for it but that clears it up!
Thx and good luck for all finalists!
And can't wait for the next one - this was fun!
Pure Of Heart - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
You can see all finalists an vote here: https://outof.cards/hearthstone/fan-creations/competitions/30-pure-of-heart/finalists/
If you made the cut, you'll see your card and not be able to vote. :)