I have not heard the exact advice you're describing from Swim's stream, but as you're describing it I would argue that it's actually pretty bad advice.
Playing for value vs. playing for tempo (or, even skipping a turn to try and bait out your opponent's threats) is a core part of the strategy of just about every CCG. And the question of when to maximize value of your cards has to be done in the context of the match. Imagine you're playing a midrange deck and your opponent is playing a control deck. In that case, your opponent probably has better late game cards, so if you spend the whole game waiting for opportunities to maximize value, you'll just lose by giving your opponent time to get their better cards online. This is the idea of knowing when you're the aggro players and when you're the control player in the context of the match (there's a widely popular article from about 20 years ago on this very topic in MTG - "Who's the Beatdown").
So, the suggestion that the game is about maximizing value at or below Platinum ranks suggests that there's some fundamentally different meta game at lower ranks. Specifically, it suggests that the meta game is all about control decks, which will naturally want to maximize value as a means of winning the game. The most generous interpretation of the advice being given is that Swim is saying that you can get away with just maximizing card value at or below Platinum rank (effectively saying that you can get away with playing the game worse), which seems to suggest that he thinks everyone at or below Platinum is either bad at the game or playing random, off-meta decks.
As @thazud said, the most important thing you can do is know what the meta game looks like and what your opponent's strategy is based on the regions/champions they're playing. From there, you can easily decide at a high level what your strategy for the match is - are you the aggro, or the control player? This is the single most important thing you can do to improve win rates, as knowing the broad strokes of your strategy going into a match informs your mulligan decisions.
Going beyond you can guess at which cards they might have that can screw you over, and gauge the likelihood of whether they have them in their hand over time. (E.g. if you're "the aggro player" in the match, and your opponent skipped a good opportunity to wipe your board with The Ruination, it may be an indicator that they don't have the card in hand and that it's safe to invest more in the board in order to close the match quickly.) If you're trying to get to a really serious expert level, you can try to develop hand-tracking skills (basically, monitoring which cards are lingering in their hands turn over turn to guess at what they are). This is something that popular Hearthstone decktrackers do for you, but it looks like Mobalytics doesn't have that feature.
There are restaurants around yes but they don't have anything with lobster there. It's definitely from the same family that's for sure, indeed the tail is different. And it has two "legs" on the sides where lobsters do have 3. The head is kinda weird too.
For me the biggest issue right now in Wild are Secret Mages. Odd DH is and will be relatively easy to control, even with this Twin Slice buff. Probably it's just my perspective, but using mostly Combo decks I have average 70% WR against DHs, and 60% WR against mages.
I mean he is missing his tail but those are some kind of bugs so maybe they can survive for some time without a few parts ( I know a cockroach can survive up to 2 weeks without it's head!)
I know, the only legendarys I don't have are magtheridon and vashj and I really didn't need them. Still bought the packs and got both. I think I just like opening packs, who doesn't? :)
Aranna is pretty good though.
Yeah that's true, I do like opening packs. I got over 2k dust from then plus the 3 packs for finishing the first chapter of the solo adventure so that could help with the next expansion.
Indeed very off-topic but came up to this creature on the street in front of the house. Never seen this before. It's kinda huge too if you compare to the leave behind it. Anyone has any idea what scary creature this is?
I know, the only legendarys I don't have are magtheridon and vashj and I really didn't need them. Still bought the packs and got both. I think I just like opening packs, who doesn't? :)
Tell me guys. How many times have you seen Heroic Strike being played? Not much. I bet this change will make the card be played on a similar level to Heroic Strike, albeit a bit more due to added flexibility.
Whenever I'm about to deliver the killing blow to a Quest Mage or Secret Mage in Wild, I let the rope burn and hurl at least three threaten emotes at them, then I kill them right before the turn ends.
To anyone I do this to, please understand that it's not personal...I just hate your guts. Lol
TFT does that as well so I don't see why not? maybe if the population of battlegrounds is big enough have anomaly mode and none anomaly mode (the anomaly mode being casual..)
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There's a difference between releasing a few cards that need retuning/reworking and having to nerf almost the entire class set you gave to the players for the game's new class. Imo that's a disaster from a design stand point.
Playtesting the power level & efficiency of a new class' aggro and/or burst potential isn't even hard compared to much harder things to detect, such as some obscure interaction between a new card and some other unrelated years old card. All they had to do to test DH was have devs play top tier decks and the other guy play the pre-nerfed DH cards, then see how quickly a game would end on average. That is the opposite of extensive testing so I find it incredibly baffling they released the class how it was.
It's clear the playtesting on class balance and/or card interactions is nothing like Blizzard's bigger game (WoW) and their design/balance team.
Thanks for the feedback! I think you’re right, I didn’t consider how much the different Hero Powers effect how you play the game. I think some of these would probably work as Hero Powers though, something like “Passive Hero Power. Your minions always attack the lowest health enemy minion if possible
I see mogwai skipping a lot of attacks/turns to burn the enemy mana when they try to bluff or to greed their resources, you need to think, sometimes your opponent will skip their turn if you have challengers on offense, cause he doesn't want to get challenged, and play those units after you attack, you can abuse that to make them lose mana sometimes..
btw I am silver (don't have much time to play.. :( ) but I got to legend once in HS and I watched almost every mogwai video from launch :D, just that I don't play much ranked.. so take my advice with care.. it's just something I noticed mogwai and swim do a lot.
Look at their mana, what can the enemy play that can screw you up..
pay more attention when you have the "end round button" and the opponent have a lot of unspent mana.
i finished that "Adventure". it was so boring. 5 chapters with same deck? only a few cards changed each fight and it was so ResidentSleeper with annoying long talks.
How does one go about implementing this into their games?
I have not heard the exact advice you're describing from Swim's stream, but as you're describing it I would argue that it's actually pretty bad advice.
Playing for value vs. playing for tempo (or, even skipping a turn to try and bait out your opponent's threats) is a core part of the strategy of just about every CCG. And the question of when to maximize value of your cards has to be done in the context of the match. Imagine you're playing a midrange deck and your opponent is playing a control deck. In that case, your opponent probably has better late game cards, so if you spend the whole game waiting for opportunities to maximize value, you'll just lose by giving your opponent time to get their better cards online. This is the idea of knowing when you're the aggro players and when you're the control player in the context of the match (there's a widely popular article from about 20 years ago on this very topic in MTG - "Who's the Beatdown").
So, the suggestion that the game is about maximizing value at or below Platinum ranks suggests that there's some fundamentally different meta game at lower ranks. Specifically, it suggests that the meta game is all about control decks, which will naturally want to maximize value as a means of winning the game. The most generous interpretation of the advice being given is that Swim is saying that you can get away with just maximizing card value at or below Platinum rank (effectively saying that you can get away with playing the game worse), which seems to suggest that he thinks everyone at or below Platinum is either bad at the game or playing random, off-meta decks.
As @thazud said, the most important thing you can do is know what the meta game looks like and what your opponent's strategy is based on the regions/champions they're playing. From there, you can easily decide at a high level what your strategy for the match is - are you the aggro, or the control player? This is the single most important thing you can do to improve win rates, as knowing the broad strokes of your strategy going into a match informs your mulligan decisions.
Going beyond you can guess at which cards they might have that can screw you over, and gauge the likelihood of whether they have them in their hand over time. (E.g. if you're "the aggro player" in the match, and your opponent skipped a good opportunity to wipe your board with The Ruination, it may be an indicator that they don't have the card in hand and that it's safe to invest more in the board in order to close the match quickly.) If you're trying to get to a really serious expert level, you can try to develop hand-tracking skills (basically, monitoring which cards are lingering in their hands turn over turn to guess at what they are). This is something that popular Hearthstone decktrackers do for you, but it looks like Mobalytics doesn't have that feature.
What creature is this?
it's alive yes lol
There are restaurants around yes but they don't have anything with lobster there.
It's definitely from the same family that's for sure, indeed the tail is different. And it has two "legs" on the sides where lobsters do have 3. The head is kinda weird too.
What creature is this?
Yea i think its kinda lobster-crab type of creature. From the photo it seems like it is walking sideways, too..Invalid Deck ID
Twin Slice is Being Changed in a Patch Tomorrow! Higher Cost but Higher Attack
For me the biggest issue right now in Wild are Secret Mages. Odd DH is and will be relatively easy to control, even with this Twin Slice buff. Probably it's just my perspective, but using mostly Combo decks I have average 70% WR against DHs, and 60% WR against mages.
Twin Slice is Being Changed in a Patch Tomorrow! Higher Cost but Higher Attack
"...the demon hunter card everyone loves." LOL cracked me up
What creature is this?
seems like a lobster to me.. is it alive?
https://www.google.com/search?q=lobster&client=firefox-b-d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi3iqyDjYvqAhVJAWMBHfCyCVIQ_AUoAXoECBgQAw&biw=1440&bih=758
I mean he is missing his tail but those are some kind of bugs so maybe they can survive for some time without a few parts ( I know a cockroach can survive up to 2 weeks without it's head!)
probably escaped from a nearby restaurant..?
Get a New Demon Hunter Hero in the Aranna Starseeker Shop Bundle - Now Available
Yeah that's true, I do like opening packs. I got over 2k dust from then plus the 3 packs for finishing the first chapter of the solo adventure so that could help with the next expansion.
What creature is this?
Indeed very off-topic but came up to this creature on the street in front of the house. Never seen this before.
It's kinda huge too if you compare to the leave behind it. Anyone has any idea what scary creature this is?
Get a New Demon Hunter Hero in the Aranna Starseeker Shop Bundle - Now Available
I know, the only legendarys I don't have are magtheridon and vashj and I really didn't need them. Still bought the packs and got both. I think I just like opening packs, who doesn't? :)
Aranna is pretty good though.
The Pepper Thread - Share Some Good Vibes!
I managed to pull off OTK DK Paladin on turn 8, courtesy of Nozdormu the Timeless.
https://hsreplay.net/replay/X4AP6UqSKcLaiB74SzYJBd
Played the deck to complete a quest, bought a GvG pack and got Vol'jin. Odd Priest, rejoice!
Twin Slice is Being Changed in a Patch Tomorrow! Higher Cost but Higher Attack
Tell me guys. How many times have you seen Heroic Strike being played? Not much. I bet this change will make the card be played on a similar level to Heroic Strike, albeit a bit more due to added flexibility.
The Confession Thread - we won't judge you!
Whenever I'm about to deliver the killing blow to a Quest Mage or Secret Mage in Wild, I let the rope burn and hurl at least three threaten emotes at them, then I kill them right before the turn ends.
To anyone I do this to, please understand that it's not personal...I just hate your guts. Lol
Battlegrounds Anomalies Idea
TFT does that as well so I don't see why not? maybe if the population of battlegrounds is big enough have anomaly mode and none anomaly mode (the anomaly mode being casual..)
An Outlandish Recipe is This Week's Tavern Brawl - Play the Deck Recipes from Ashes of Outland
Quite enjoyed playing the warrior deck!
Twin Slice is Being Changed in a Patch Tomorrow! Higher Cost but Higher Attack
Agreed, I expect more nerfs coming after a while
An Outlandish Recipe is This Week's Tavern Brawl - Play the Deck Recipes from Ashes of Outland
Won my first game with the Druid list, completely destroying a Demon Hunter. Makes me consider crafting Ysera, Unleashed after all...
Quest Trading - Play A Friend!
Done. Many thanks!
Hearthstone Battlegrounds Channel - DaZiel
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Mother Shahraz
This beach is no mother, she is the most annoying hero of the entire adventure.
Least the deck provided has kingsblade and immune minions
Twin Slice is Being Changed in a Patch Tomorrow! Higher Cost but Higher Attack
There's a difference between releasing a few cards that need retuning/reworking and having to nerf almost the entire class set you gave to the players for the game's new class. Imo that's a disaster from a design stand point.
Playtesting the power level & efficiency of a new class' aggro and/or burst potential isn't even hard compared to much harder things to detect, such as some obscure interaction between a new card and some other unrelated years old card. All they had to do to test DH was have devs play top tier decks and the other guy play the pre-nerfed DH cards, then see how quickly a game would end on average. That is the opposite of extensive testing so I find it incredibly baffling they released the class how it was.
It's clear the playtesting on class balance and/or card interactions is nothing like Blizzard's bigger game (WoW) and their design/balance team.
Battlegrounds Anomalies Idea
@KANSAS
Thanks for the feedback! I think you’re right, I didn’t consider how much the different Hero Powers effect how you play the game. I think some of these would probably work as Hero Powers though, something like “Passive Hero Power. Your minions always attack the lowest health enemy minion if possible
Hearthstone's Battlegrounds is Getting a Balance Patch on June 18 - Hero & Minion Changes Detailed
Its always good to see battle ground changes, would appreciate this if it happened more often.
Still sad that mechs is the only tribe that is completely useless end game :(
Legendary Quest Woes
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/hearthstone/t/not-getting-event-quests-eu/23651/41
fixing soon tm
How does one go about implementing this into their games?
I see mogwai skipping a lot of attacks/turns to burn the enemy mana when they try to bluff or to greed their resources, you need to think, sometimes your opponent will skip their turn if you have challengers on offense, cause he doesn't want to get challenged, and play those units after you attack, you can abuse that to make them lose mana sometimes..
btw I am silver (don't have much time to play.. :( ) but I got to legend once in HS and I watched almost every mogwai video from launch :D, just that I don't play much ranked.. so take my advice with care.. it's just something I noticed mogwai and swim do a lot.
Look at their mana, what can the enemy play that can screw you up..
pay more attention when you have the "end round button" and the opponent have a lot of unspent mana.
Trial by Felfire Opinions
i finished that "Adventure". it was so boring. 5 chapters with same deck? only a few cards changed each fight and it was so ResidentSleeper with annoying long talks.