Is it like a mind control effect where you 'steal' the 3/3s to your board from your opponents board and/or hand?
Or is it summon fresh 3/3 copies?
The way I read it, I have to assume you take them from their hand (if they're still there) and summon them on your side. If they make it to the enemy board, they are not yours to take anymore. Could be overthinking it, though: Pozzik could just give you your own 3/3s and let your opponent have two 3/3s for later use.
We won't know until they tell us or someone figures it out :/
Perhaps it's just me, but my initial opinion was "that does not deserve to be a Legendary"; I didn't think Pozzik was interesting at all. But maybe there's some mind-game trickeration that can be had here.
Well, this has to be the saddest Hearthstone related news I have seen this year, so far. Though not entirely unexpected as some of us were wondering what the heck was going on, it was still heavy news to read when the announcement of the announcement dropped.
I sincerely hope that the OoC community (members and experience) is kept alive in whatever shape or form, because I have had a blast since arriving on this wonderful site from the very start and I think it would be a terrible shame if this would disappear altogether.
Pozzik looks real interesting. Investing in killing it may not be worth it, but you risk giving your opponent 2 3/3s. At the same time, your opponent doesn't want to play 3-mana 3/3s, but also doesn't want to let you have them.
If you want to save money when buying Hearthstone packs, you should check out Amazon Coins! It's an easy way to save up to 25% off Hearthstone packs so you can get into the new expansion without worrying about your wallet too much. We've got a detailed guide on how to Get Started with Amazon Coins, but if you've already dealt with them in the past, you can buy some more by clicking right here.
If you want to save money when buying Hearthstone packs, you should check out Amazon Coins! It's an easy way to save up to 25% off Hearthstone packs so you can get into the new expansion without worrying about your wallet too much. We've got a detailed guide on how to Get Started with Amazon Coins, but if you've already dealt with them in the past, you can buy some more by clicking right here.
If you want to save money when buying Hearthstone packs, you should check out Amazon Coins! It's an easy way to save up to 25% off Hearthstone packs so you can get into the new expansion without worrying about your wallet too much. We've got a detailed guide on how to Get Started with Amazon Coins, but if you've already dealt with them in the past, you can buy some more by clicking right here.
If you want to save money when buying Hearthstone packs, you should check out Amazon Coins! It's an easy way to save up to 25% off Hearthstone packs so you can get into the new expansion without worrying about your wallet too much. We've got a detailed guide on how to Get Started with Amazon Coins, but if you've already dealt with them in the past, you can buy some more by clicking right here.
I'll address the elephant in the room. Yes, our updates regarding Hearthstone on Out of Cards are not as great as they have been in the past. There are several factors right now that are at play here:
At the start of the year, more than half the staff was let go. There are numerous reasons why certain people are no longer here. Having less people on the team has in turn harmed our coverage. Shit, having people take an assignment for an article that should go up quickly and then dick around for 4-5 hours before getting it up has harmed coverage too. I've always been someone that takes pride in the fast lane, and over the past year we've been sitting in some rough traffic.
I like to think that over the years I set us up for success by telling people what kind of content needed to be created to give us an edge. Breaking news is one thing, but the bread and butter of any site covering a card game is talking about decks, which not many were ever particularly enthusiastic about covering. The number of times people were hesitant to posting decks on our homepage because "the meta hasn't changed" or similar stupid remarks has been severely disappointing.
On Specific Content
Tavern Brawl is a big oops. Though, these typically provide very minimal traffic anyway because the mode isn't all that interesting so it wasn't the worst thing that has happened. Not to say that was okay, because covering everything possible is still important, but a couple of slip ups with late brawl posts or the one completely missing one definitely isn't the end of the world.
Regarding us not covering the fact an expansion announcement was coming, I agree, this should have been headlined and this is really bad that we missed this or if someone did see it, no one made an article for it. It would have been some great views and organic search traffic too!
Achievement guides. Yeah. I'm not impressed by what happened with those for the last expansion. I get it, they take a lot of work to put together and Avalon did a pretty good job at it. The monetary incentive though was clearly not worth powering through them in a quick fashion.
Revenue Decline
Man, ads fucking suck. It's a rough situation because the more ads you ad to your site to boost revenue, the less people want to visit or the more people that put on adblock which then means you want to find more places to put advertisements and the vicious cycle repeats itself.
This, plus the decline of Hearthstone, the game we put the majority of our dedication to, results in poor traffic and even worse revenue. Spending a few hours on an article to make a couple of dollars doesn't exactly pay for your time. Moving into this year we had to decrease the amount of revenue share on staff for ad impressions to pay for our server costs.
Hearthstone is so beyond dead, it's actually hilarious. Card games as a whole have been on a decline -
Wizards of the Coast is killing their own game with too much content.
Riot never really figured out Legends of Runeterra - oh boy did we spend a lot of time with the game. Oops.
Blizzard has to be the worst company in gaming with how fucking garbage their communication is. They used to have an amazing community team for each one of their games. World of Warcraft has joke comms and Hearthstone, all they care about is posting a weekly meme on Twitter and giving handouts to streamers. They couldn't even be bothered to schedule a tweet for the 9th birthday of the game... but they quote tweeted someone the day before saying omg we're about to be 9. Blizzard isn't on a downward trend because of some of their employees being sexual predators (that's really bad though), but it's because they have no fucking idea what they are doing with their community.
Marvel Snap has some good gameplay but the game is a huge whale situation. I'm unsure about its staying power tbh.
Which leads me into something people probably don't want to hear but we were going to announce it at some point anyway so here goes make that transition less jarring.
"Shutting Down" Out of Cards
But, we're not. Thonson above linked to Out of Games and previous to that, Crusader2010 pointed out about diversification. Out of Cards failed to gain any big traction because the original site our staff came from, HearthPwn, didn't shut down. We were supposed to end up with a banner at the top of the site after it was shut down and put into read-only mode which would redirect the community over to "the new site" (Out of Cards) which would have been huge. We would have immediately been able to have a budget through some ads and that would have given us solid momentum to build the site out. Instead, we've always been behind. We've had some incredible content created throughout our years that never took off (a point dapperdog made prior).
Now, we're not going anywhere but we're giving ourselves a better chance at making this all work. Nox and Nirast stopped posting on Out of Games at the start of February because it was decided that we'd be merging the two sites. It doesn't make sense for us to have two properties when having one solid one will allow us to, hopefully, gain a bit more traction on the card game side of things since we'll be able to boost our overall website impact by talking about more than just card games.
The end game right now is to rebrand Out of Cards into Out of Games. There's still stuff being figured out behind the scenes to make that actually happen, so with myself being more dedicated to that and us having fewer staff members than before, it puts us in a "fun" situation of fewer updates on the site. If I spend more time towards updates, which aren't getting much traction anyway, it further delays the move.
None of this has been a particularly fun situation.
May 15, 2019 is when I purchased the domain name, when we decided to move away from the HearthStation beta. We're just under 2 months away from that anniversary and seeing Out of Cards as a brand, one of my favourite brand names I've been a part of, going away is quite sad.
I still want to keep Out of Cards around in some form on Out of Games because I want there to be familiarity there for people that only care about Hearthstone or only care about card games (we will have a way for people to effectively have an "Out of Cards experience" on Out of Games). We made this site to fit a niche and it's important we keep that around - it'll just be on a different domain name.
Once we get closer to moving the domain, I'm going to be doing a round of staff recruiting. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out for staff, because I want people that are all going to be on the same page and I want people that are willing to cooperate. I want to find people that want to create content unlike the big gaming sites (who all just write really bad super-SEO-driven nonsense). I want to rebuild the community aspect of the site. We've got a solid chance at making a community interested in general gaming work unlike what we were able to do with Out of Cards, and that's big because it should, in theory, only help the card game side of it.
And then if Blizzard finally kills Hearthstone, we're also not completely fucked.
The Finale keyword itself is a rather interesting example of this to me since it has historically been one of the most disliked ideas for a custom mechanic. Unless you design the cards in a way to avoid this, it effectively just rewards you if you play on curve which is something decks typically want to do anyway.
True, you might be rewarded for "playing on curve", but from what we've seen so far, those are pretty anti-tempo cards, that will most likely be their drawback. And if you dont play them on curve, GL trying to trigger the Finale effect, at least with the costlier ones, so they might become very predictable turns, guess we shall see.
We don't reliably render them which is why we don't have more recent ones. Getting these to work sometimes requires card-specific code because our method of creating them isn't great.
You see it really makes no difference to me.if you want to highroll every game in casual que.
If you can duplicate those results go hit masters.
Be my guest, I did it by like playing my decks out and strategizing.
But blind luck is good too.
Channel that energy lol
Yep see the reason why I can consistently beat elites one of the best meta decks with trash is because I level, play for wincons, actually engage with my deck.
Not just huh how can I hit the board as op as possible by mana 3. Like sure go for it but it will only get you so far.
Yep I wasn't sure if it was just me but the minute I got out of casual que and back on master ladder it was like my opponent wasn't even playing the same game as me.
Memes are fun, I love memes, but as soon as it's just me and you on ladder you're not even breathing
Yep I thought so you're useless into burn one of the top decks played right now. Try building around something other than board spam and you might win into aggro.
Like you can counter brew me thats fine I'm primarily a midrange player but what happens when the top meta deck does 10 dmg burn to face? You just say gg go next? Good luck with that.
We made a mistake and didn't change the variable that sets the site's current expansion name.
No need to be all doom and gloom. Also, the other sites are absolute trash when it comes to reveal season anyway - no one has had a more dedicated crew to covering Hearthstone reveal seasons since the beginning of the game.
Yeah. I like that the reveal schedule is up, but linking to the old MotLK schedule and expansion page, mixed with the lack of over all content and updates for the game page are more than a little concerning.
If you guys are done with the game and don’t want to cover it anymore, at least just say so. That way I’ll know definitively if I should start going elsewhere for HS coverage
If you're angry because your favorite legendary got "copied", imagine me who JUST finished remaking the Rock in Azeroth expansion! Its a hella bittersweet sensation, now I just hope the Festival of Legends won't mess with the reception of the remake :/
Very flexible location and as seen in the HSreplay live data section, locations are the most played cards in standard atm, so this will definitely see play.
This buff can be very good on a couple key minions like Nerubian Swarmguard. It's 8/8 in stats for 3 mana regardless of it's in harmonic or dissonance form. Blizz really committed to making hand buff DK a thing.
Discover cards usually see play at the beginning of standard rotation so this should see some play, if it doesn't, that's coz it's too slow and not as flexible as Venomous Scorpid
This card is so awesome and I'm glad Blizzard recognize the benefits of having a side board. Also the rules you can break like having odd cards in even decks etc is so awesome and makes natural sense coz the side board is using the discover mechanic, which I think is quite a neat spin on using a side board and is distinctively HS flavor. I can just add all my tech cards to ETC now or change my game plan completely by adding in another win con.
New Neutral Minion - Pozzik, Audio Engineer
The way I read it, I have to assume you take them from their hand (if they're still there) and summon them on your side. If they make it to the enemy board, they are not yours to take anymore. Could be overthinking it, though: Pozzik could just give you your own 3/3s and let your opponent have two 3/3s for later use.
We won't know until they tell us or someone figures it out :/
New Neutral Minion - Pozzik, Audio Engineer
How does this work?
Is it like a mind control effect where you 'steal' the 3/3s to your board from your opponents board and/or hand?
Or is it summon fresh 3/3 copies?
Pyrotechnician
Grand Magus Antonidas is rotation out?
Better give it support for wild rather than give support while it is in standard.
Festival of Legends Reveal Season Starts With Four New Card Reveals Including a Neutral Legendary
Perhaps it's just me, but my initial opinion was "that does not deserve to be a Legendary"; I didn't think Pozzik was interesting at all. But maybe there's some mind-game trickeration that can be had here.
What's Up With Out Of Cards? [Staff Responses]
Well, this has to be the saddest Hearthstone related news I have seen this year, so far. Though not entirely unexpected as some of us were wondering what the heck was going on, it was still heavy news to read when the announcement of the announcement dropped.
I sincerely hope that the OoC community (members and experience) is kept alive in whatever shape or form, because I have had a blast since arriving on this wonderful site from the very start and I think it would be a terrible shame if this would disappear altogether.
Festival of Legends Reveal Season Starts With Four New Card Reveals Including a Neutral Legendary
Pozzik looks real interesting. Investing in killing it may not be worth it, but you risk giving your opponent 2 3/3s. At the same time, your opponent doesn't want to play 3-mana 3/3s, but also doesn't want to let you have them.
New Neutral Minion - Worgen Roadie
A new Rare Neutral Minion, Worgen Roadie, has been revealed!
Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating!
Learn more about Festival of Legends
Head on over to our dedicated guide for Festival of Legends!
Get Cheaper Card Packs
This section contains affiliate links.
If you want to save money when buying Hearthstone packs, you should check out Amazon Coins! It's an easy way to save up to 25% off Hearthstone packs so you can get into the new expansion without worrying about your wallet too much. We've got a detailed guide on how to Get Started with Amazon Coins, but if you've already dealt with them in the past, you can buy some more by clicking right here.
New Neutral Minion - Pyrotechnician
A new Common Neutral Minion, Pyrotechnician, has been revealed!
Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating!
Learn more about Festival of Legends
Head on over to our dedicated guide for Festival of Legends!
Get Cheaper Card Packs
This section contains affiliate links.
If you want to save money when buying Hearthstone packs, you should check out Amazon Coins! It's an easy way to save up to 25% off Hearthstone packs so you can get into the new expansion without worrying about your wallet too much. We've got a detailed guide on how to Get Started with Amazon Coins, but if you've already dealt with them in the past, you can buy some more by clicking right here.
New Neutral Minion - Pozzik, Audio Engineer
A new Legendary Neutral Minion, Pozzik, Audio Engineer, has been revealed!
Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating!
Learn more about Festival of Legends
Head on over to our dedicated guide for Festival of Legends!
Get Cheaper Card Packs
This section contains affiliate links.
If you want to save money when buying Hearthstone packs, you should check out Amazon Coins! It's an easy way to save up to 25% off Hearthstone packs so you can get into the new expansion without worrying about your wallet too much. We've got a detailed guide on how to Get Started with Amazon Coins, but if you've already dealt with them in the past, you can buy some more by clicking right here.
New Neutral Minion - Festival Security
A new Rare Neutral Minion, Festival Security, has been revealed!
Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating!
Learn more about Festival of Legends
Head on over to our dedicated guide for Festival of Legends!
Get Cheaper Card Packs
This section contains affiliate links.
If you want to save money when buying Hearthstone packs, you should check out Amazon Coins! It's an easy way to save up to 25% off Hearthstone packs so you can get into the new expansion without worrying about your wallet too much. We've got a detailed guide on how to Get Started with Amazon Coins, but if you've already dealt with them in the past, you can buy some more by clicking right here.
What's Up With Out Of Cards? [Staff Responses]
I'll address the elephant in the room. Yes, our updates regarding Hearthstone on Out of Cards are not as great as they have been in the past. There are several factors right now that are at play here:
At the start of the year, more than half the staff was let go. There are numerous reasons why certain people are no longer here. Having less people on the team has in turn harmed our coverage. Shit, having people take an assignment for an article that should go up quickly and then dick around for 4-5 hours before getting it up has harmed coverage too. I've always been someone that takes pride in the fast lane, and over the past year we've been sitting in some rough traffic.
I like to think that over the years I set us up for success by telling people what kind of content needed to be created to give us an edge. Breaking news is one thing, but the bread and butter of any site covering a card game is talking about decks, which not many were ever particularly enthusiastic about covering. The number of times people were hesitant to posting decks on our homepage because "the meta hasn't changed" or similar stupid remarks has been severely disappointing.
On Specific Content
Tavern Brawl is a big oops. Though, these typically provide very minimal traffic anyway because the mode isn't all that interesting so it wasn't the worst thing that has happened. Not to say that was okay, because covering everything possible is still important, but a couple of slip ups with late brawl posts or the one completely missing one definitely isn't the end of the world.
Regarding us not covering the fact an expansion announcement was coming, I agree, this should have been headlined and this is really bad that we missed this or if someone did see it, no one made an article for it. It would have been some great views and organic search traffic too!
Achievement guides. Yeah. I'm not impressed by what happened with those for the last expansion. I get it, they take a lot of work to put together and Avalon did a pretty good job at it. The monetary incentive though was clearly not worth powering through them in a quick fashion.
Revenue Decline
Man, ads fucking suck. It's a rough situation because the more ads you ad to your site to boost revenue, the less people want to visit or the more people that put on adblock which then means you want to find more places to put advertisements and the vicious cycle repeats itself.
This, plus the decline of Hearthstone, the game we put the majority of our dedication to, results in poor traffic and even worse revenue. Spending a few hours on an article to make a couple of dollars doesn't exactly pay for your time. Moving into this year we had to decrease the amount of revenue share on staff for ad impressions to pay for our server costs.
Hearthstone is so beyond dead, it's actually hilarious. Card games as a whole have been on a decline -
Which leads me into something people probably don't want to hear but we were going to announce it at some point anyway so here goes make that transition less jarring.
"Shutting Down" Out of Cards
But, we're not. Thonson above linked to Out of Games and previous to that, Crusader2010 pointed out about diversification. Out of Cards failed to gain any big traction because the original site our staff came from, HearthPwn, didn't shut down. We were supposed to end up with a banner at the top of the site after it was shut down and put into read-only mode which would redirect the community over to "the new site" (Out of Cards) which would have been huge. We would have immediately been able to have a budget through some ads and that would have given us solid momentum to build the site out. Instead, we've always been behind. We've had some incredible content created throughout our years that never took off (a point dapperdog made prior).
Now, we're not going anywhere but we're giving ourselves a better chance at making this all work. Nox and Nirast stopped posting on Out of Games at the start of February because it was decided that we'd be merging the two sites. It doesn't make sense for us to have two properties when having one solid one will allow us to, hopefully, gain a bit more traction on the card game side of things since we'll be able to boost our overall website impact by talking about more than just card games.
The end game right now is to rebrand Out of Cards into Out of Games. There's still stuff being figured out behind the scenes to make that actually happen, so with myself being more dedicated to that and us having fewer staff members than before, it puts us in a "fun" situation of fewer updates on the site. If I spend more time towards updates, which aren't getting much traction anyway, it further delays the move.
None of this has been a particularly fun situation.
May 15, 2019 is when I purchased the domain name, when we decided to move away from the HearthStation beta. We're just under 2 months away from that anniversary and seeing Out of Cards as a brand, one of my favourite brand names I've been a part of, going away is quite sad.
I still want to keep Out of Cards around in some form on Out of Games because I want there to be familiarity there for people that only care about Hearthstone or only care about card games (we will have a way for people to effectively have an "Out of Cards experience" on Out of Games). We made this site to fit a niche and it's important we keep that around - it'll just be on a different domain name.
Once we get closer to moving the domain, I'm going to be doing a round of staff recruiting. There's still a lot of stuff to figure out for staff, because I want people that are all going to be on the same page and I want people that are willing to cooperate. I want to find people that want to create content unlike the big gaming sites (who all just write really bad super-SEO-driven nonsense). I want to rebuild the community aspect of the site. We've got a solid chance at making a community interested in general gaming work unlike what we were able to do with Out of Cards, and that's big because it should, in theory, only help the card game side of it.
And then if Blizzard finally kills Hearthstone, we're also not completely fucked.
Card Design Conversation - Center Stage
True, you might be rewarded for "playing on curve", but from what we've seen so far, those are pretty anti-tempo cards, that will most likely be their drawback. And if you dont play them on curve, GL trying to trigger the Finale effect, at least with the costlier ones, so they might become very predictable turns, guess we shall see.
Words of Power - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
I ended up going with Gunslinger. Sadly, I couldn't implement most of the feedback you guys gave, as I don't have much time this week.
Missing diamond card gifs
We don't reliably render them which is why we don't have more recent ones. Getting these to work sometimes requires card-specific code because our method of creating them isn't great.
High Rolling Every Game
You see it really makes no difference to me.if you want to highroll every game in casual que.
If you can duplicate those results go hit masters.
Be my guest, I did it by like playing my decks out and strategizing.
But blind luck is good too.
Channel that energy lol
Yep see the reason why I can consistently beat elites one of the best meta decks with trash is because I level, play for wincons, actually engage with my deck.
Not just huh how can I hit the board as op as possible by mana 3. Like sure go for it but it will only get you so far.
Yep I wasn't sure if it was just me but the minute I got out of casual que and back on master ladder it was like my opponent wasn't even playing the same game as me.
Memes are fun, I love memes, but as soon as it's just me and you on ladder you're not even breathing
Yep I thought so you're useless into burn one of the top decks played right now. Try building around something other than board spam and you might win into aggro.
Like you can counter brew me thats fine I'm primarily a midrange player but what happens when the top meta deck does 10 dmg burn to face? You just say gg go next? Good luck with that.
march of litch king reveal schedule
We made a mistake and didn't change the variable that sets the site's current expansion name.
No need to be all doom and gloom. Also, the other sites are absolute trash when it comes to reveal season anyway - no one has had a more dedicated crew to covering Hearthstone reveal seasons since the beginning of the game.
march of litch king reveal schedule
Yeah. I like that the reveal schedule is up, but linking to the old MotLK schedule and expansion page, mixed with the lack of over all content and updates for the game page are more than a little concerning.
If you guys are done with the game and don’t want to cover it anymore, at least just say so. That way I’ll know definitively if I should start going elsewhere for HS coverage
Card Design Conversation - Center Stage
If you're angry because your favorite legendary got "copied", imagine me who JUST finished remaking the Rock in Azeroth expansion! Its a hella bittersweet sensation, now I just hope the Festival of Legends won't mess with the reception of the remake :/
march of litch king reveal schedule
it's really sad to see the lack of interest for Hearthstone ...
New Neutral Minion - E.T.C., Band Manager
Has anyone stolen or copied your opponent's ETC? With Souleater's Scythe, copied Bound Souls give you nothing. What about ETC?
New Priest Location - Fan Club
Very flexible location and as seen in the HSreplay live data section, locations are the most played cards in standard atm, so this will definitely see play.
New Death Knight Spell - Harmonic Metal
This buff can be very good on a couple key minions like Nerubian Swarmguard. It's 8/8 in stats for 3 mana regardless of it's in harmonic or dissonance form. Blizz really committed to making hand buff DK a thing.
New Neutral Minion - Ghost Writer
Discover cards usually see play at the beginning of standard rotation so this should see some play, if it doesn't, that's coz it's too slow and not as flexible as Venomous Scorpid
New Neutral Minion - E.T.C., Band Manager
This card is so awesome and I'm glad Blizzard recognize the benefits of having a side board. Also the rules you can break like having odd cards in even decks etc is so awesome and makes natural sense coz the side board is using the discover mechanic, which I think is quite a neat spin on using a side board and is distinctively HS flavor. I can just add all my tech cards to ETC now or change my game plan completely by adding in another win con.
Even DK
Got it. Thanks!