(Part of me also wants Patches the Pirate but what are the odds of that happening?)
Patches actually seems like a perfect card to bring back in some form. He's a random neutral Legendary that became infamous for being absolutely overpowered, sort of like Dr. Boom.
I mean, I'd like Patches to come back in a full Pirate-themed expansion, maybe as the Demon Hunter or Warlock representative, but I'd settle for a Rogue skin.
The Naga and Antaen is there because the deck was made a week before the deck expansion came out, so i had no Idea about the cards powerlevel and the nerfs weren't out obvioulsly. But i decided to try the deck again and soon i'll update it, with more Pirates ,Rushers, and maybe Secret techs.
Edit: I changed the deck and i think its a lot better now. Went 13-7 at legend. Give the new list a try!
I don't think they stop the re-release train. With the Classic version of the game lagging so far behind retail, there should always be a group of players who want to play an older piece of content. The part I find the most interesting though is what happens if they release these old expansions and they aren't out for 2 years each? Classic will eventually catch up to the current game. Do they regularly create new Classic servers for each of the expansions? Do we get a chance to level up our classic characters into retail somehow if things do catch up?
The whole thing is so fun to think about.
I do think if they were to stop though, the re-releasing should stop with Wrath of the Lich King. The first three versions of the game are better or worse the original Warcraft story before they had to start really world-building again. Those three are "Classic Warcraft" so it is extremely fitting that they went with the Classic name.
It is very interesting that they want to know how people want to progress. Part of me thinks the brand new characters on a BC server options aren't seriously being considered, but included just to give people the delusion they get to give feedback. The real possibilities to me have always been the remaining 2 options - progression server or realm transfers. I think realm transfers are silly though since you end up with a ton of dead Classic realms. Let people start Classic from scratch at that point on some new servers with new identities. Bonus points since they only need to bring a few servers only instead of the dozens now since the demand should be lower.
Continue playing my current Classic character on my existing server as it progresses to the Burning Crusade expansion, with the option to transfer to a Classic server that will never progress past level 60.
Start a brand new character from level 58 on a new Burning Crusade server.
Start a brand new character from Level 1 on a new Burning Crusade server.
Continue playing my current Classic character on my existing server that will never progress past level 60, with the option to transfer to a Burning Crusade server.
I'm with you on the Paladin front. Although my first real Paladin was made during Wrath of the Lich King (Holy with part-time Prot), I really appreciated what all my Paladin brothers did for me in Burning Crusade and I am 90% sure I want to play a Paladin for Burning Crusade (Horde of course). If Blizzard does it right, we should be able to get ourselves some 60 Blood Elves before the Burning Crusade expansion actually goes live since the race will unlock in a "pre-patch" of sorts.
BC definitely has a better round of Dungeons than Classic. Classics were really appreciated, but yeah, the length of most can be tedious and not great for a world where we're more committed to more serious things in life. I know exactly what you mean though; These were some of the best times I've ever had playing online video games and it all just ends up being emotional. I feel like I'm doing myself an injustice if I go super serious on it, but I feel like I'm doing past me an injustice by not experience it all again. Then again, this could all be a moot point since we haven't gotten to experience BC again. Maybe it will all just be a "you think you do but you don't" moment, leading to some initial fun but then some fatigue, which honestly may be the way to go since that means I won't feel bad about not playing constantly.
One saving grace though for BC is being able to play it with the WoW friends I've made over the years that I didn't get to experience it with back then. It'll be really neat to run better (when compared to Classic) content with them in an older and more punishing version of the game.
I'm over on Herod PVP which has been a hot server to play on and I gotta say, the Classic experience felt fantastic with an overwhelming number of people. There's just something so epic about walking into Org from the oversized front gates and into a sea of dirty Horde characters that says home to me. I don't get that feeling anymore with the current game since they redesigned the city.
I think it might be worth sticking out on a larger server, especially since we don't know how the BC population is going to be. Its possible a large chunk of players on your realm only really cared about Classic and they don't intend on playing BC longterm. It could turn an overwhelmingly high pop realm into just a normal high pop realm. With that possibility existing for Mankrik, the other two USEast PVE realms could also lose quite a bit of their populations due to the lack of BC interest. Though, $25 to change back isn't the end of the world if the other servers ended up sucking. Those realms are also likely to gain quite a few players back once BC hits which will last for at least some amount of time, making it potentially less risky of a move now if you're possibly only going to play a ton during the first few months.
Damn, there are so many stupid things to consider. FWIW I've played on a ton of private servers as well and I agree, low populations aren't even all that bad. In fact, even on retail, one of my favourite times playing the game was when I and my group of friends realm transferred when Wrath hit because of queue times. Blizzard goofed hardcore, made the new realm (Drak'Tharon) get overpopulated and then when they let people transfer off, the realm became a deserted wasteland overnight. None of us wanted to transfer off to the realm choices since they all seemed lame, so we proceeded to basically run the server. That isn't to say we controlled Drak'Tharon, but it was a ton of fun having a very tightknit community where you could penalize people who were being assholes. A positive for me though was I was able to be a troll without many repercussions since I could back that up with being one of the realm's best-geared players and performance to match it. I don't think I'd do low population again though since those are all merged realms and its just too weird to see realm names of other players in guild chat.
Now technically he isn't a Rogue card. But I would love to see Marin the Fox. (Part of me also wants Patches the Pirate but what are the odds of that happening?)
Marin honestly doesn't even sound unlikely. Assuming they tie him into some new expansion thematically
Now technically he isn't a Rogue card. But I would love to see Marin the Fox. (Part of me also wants Patches the Pirate but what are the odds of that happening?)
While most games pulling off the 40 damage turn will require set up prior, if you get lucky Skull draws while in Outcast it can be a true OTK. But even if you have to do some set up for the 40 damage turn, most OTK decks require set up. So this is no different.
Seems like you're quite passionate about it as well. I think your statement that you "have to unconditionally love which I hate" is spot on though. It's such a immersive and well polished MMO but at the same time I can't help but feel that it's like watching a child grow up, and then realizing that your child didn't turn out how you expect. You still love them, but it's not the same.
Specifically regarding classic-expansion content. At what point does blizzard feasibly stop the re-release train? I always said that Wrath was the peak of WoW (both in terms of it's core demographic, popularity, peak concurrent subscribers and it's ability to create good content that didn't completely obviate the systems that it had developed prior). I mean, I don't think it's feasible for Blizzard to just re-release all expansions. There has to be a stopping point. I feel fairly confident that they will release Burning Crusade though. (Just look at Hearthstone and WoW...*in case of emergency, re-release BC content*)
On a side note, when did they send out a survey regarding TBC? To whom? Was it random subscribers? (I was unsubbed for the past 3-4 months).
On a personal note, I still feel unsure about playing Vanilla to "fast track" my way through TBC. The class I'm looking forward to the most is horde paladins (i.e. blood elfs) and there's no way to fast track that other than hording gold and possible materials considering I'll have to level from 1-60 before I can even start the BC content.
As for other classes, as mentioned in my OP, I've considered leveling some alts in preparation for an eventual TBC release, but playing WoW casually is never something I've been great at. Many times I'll get messages from randoms or even friends to join a dungeon or raid. Joining a dungeon in Vanilla can be as little as an hour commitment (in the case of a dungeon like Scarlet Monastery) or can be a multi hour commitment (in the case of LBRS or BRD). Conversely, even raiding casually can end up being more of a time sink than you like. While there are guilds who can clear the newly released ZG in an hour or two, there are going to be guilds who can't clear half of it in 3 hours.
TBC raids and dungeons felt more like appropriate bite sized chunks, which is partly why I love the expansion. Personally I feel very dichotic about the situation, torn between my "love hate relationship" with the game, and my ability to play it casually in a mindset of "walk away". But when you've done the same leveling grinding multiple times in the past. The idea of leveling with no "end goal" other than "prepare for TBC" can create some pretty exhausting burnout, but time-investment wise and mentally.
I feel like I'm ranting, but know what I mean Flux?
Addendum: My final issue with WoW currently is playerbase. I'm currently on Mankirk, a USEast PvE server with a very very high population. So much so that Org feels crowded. The only other US East PvE realms available are Ashkandi and Windseeker. Both with VERY low populations. I don't like overpopulated servers, and there's been queues lately, but there aren't any free transfers going on from Mankirk right now, and to top it off I don't want to force my friend to transfer either, possibly to a server that may die off before TBC releases (ashkandi and windseeker both have about 4000 less horde players than Mankirk.
As someone who played on private servers in the past, I don't mind small populations. You manage just fine without having thousands of players online at the same time, but it does pose a problem both perception wise, and logistically.
Swain is Legend of Runeterra's Latest Champion - New Noxus Cards Revealed
Quite impressive level up animation, have to admit.
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LevelUp works, the other doesn't.
Edit - Those also work, they're cosmetic, with the first 5 also giving you the card if you don't have it:
New Rogue Hero somewhat confirmed?
I wouldn't hate Marin.
If only to hear him say "En Guard" whenever he attacks the enemy heroes
Who would he banter with, though? All the alt heroes need to have someone to banter with
New Rogue Hero somewhat confirmed?
Patches actually seems like a perfect card to bring back in some form. He's a random neutral Legendary that became infamous for being absolutely overpowered, sort of like Dr. Boom.
I mean, I'd like Patches to come back in a full Pirate-themed expansion, maybe as the Demon Hunter or Warlock representative, but I'd settle for a Rogue skin.
Chaos Gazer
Is anyone playing this card to counter Demon Hunters? I'm thinking if you can corrupt their Outcast cards before they're ready to play them, profit.
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Oh no =(
Removed it from the post, thanks.
new secrets in hearthstone deck tracker...
hi guys,
when will the new secrets be included in the secret-preview of the deck tracker?
i stumbled over this more often than i like to admit.
Swain is Legend of Runeterra's Latest Champion - New Noxus Cards Revealed
Actually a decent Swain port from League, they implemented his abilities nicely.
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It'll be sad when the older codes expire! Everything from Eldraine and before are set to expire in July of this year.
Also, if you're looking for experience, there are the codes "LevelUp" and "BroughtBack" that may still work.
New Rogue Hero somewhat confirmed?
All signs point to Face Collector. Seriously though, Tess Greymane or Trade Prince Gallywix would be awesome.
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OneBillion is not working for me. Still got 24 packs, so can't exactly complain, but I think it's worth mentioning.
Spiteful Demon Hunter (Updated)
The Naga and Antaen is there because the deck was made a week before the deck expansion came out, so i had no Idea about the cards powerlevel and the nerfs weren't out obvioulsly. But i decided to try the deck again and soon i'll update it, with more Pirates ,Rushers, and maybe Secret techs.
Edit: I changed the deck and i think its a lot better now. Went 13-7 at legend. Give the new list a try!
WoW Classic - "Is you is, or is you ain't my baby"
I don't think they stop the re-release train. With the Classic version of the game lagging so far behind retail, there should always be a group of players who want to play an older piece of content. The part I find the most interesting though is what happens if they release these old expansions and they aren't out for 2 years each? Classic will eventually catch up to the current game. Do they regularly create new Classic servers for each of the expansions? Do we get a chance to level up our classic characters into retail somehow if things do catch up?
The whole thing is so fun to think about.
I do think if they were to stop though, the re-releasing should stop with Wrath of the Lich King. The first three versions of the game are better or worse the original Warcraft story before they had to start really world-building again. Those three are "Classic Warcraft" so it is extremely fitting that they went with the Classic name.
Just a little under 3 weeks ago, some players received a survey by email asking about Burning Crusade. Wowhead did a whole spotlight on it ->
https://www.wowhead.com/news=311753/classic-burning-crusade-character-creation-survey-sent-by-blizzard
It is very interesting that they want to know how people want to progress. Part of me thinks the brand new characters on a BC server options aren't seriously being considered, but included just to give people the delusion they get to give feedback. The real possibilities to me have always been the remaining 2 options - progression server or realm transfers. I think realm transfers are silly though since you end up with a ton of dead Classic realms. Let people start Classic from scratch at that point on some new servers with new identities. Bonus points since they only need to bring a few servers only instead of the dozens now since the demand should be lower.
I'm with you on the Paladin front. Although my first real Paladin was made during Wrath of the Lich King (Holy with part-time Prot), I really appreciated what all my Paladin brothers did for me in Burning Crusade and I am 90% sure I want to play a Paladin for Burning Crusade (Horde of course). If Blizzard does it right, we should be able to get ourselves some 60 Blood Elves before the Burning Crusade expansion actually goes live since the race will unlock in a "pre-patch" of sorts.
BC definitely has a better round of Dungeons than Classic. Classics were really appreciated, but yeah, the length of most can be tedious and not great for a world where we're more committed to more serious things in life. I know exactly what you mean though; These were some of the best times I've ever had playing online video games and it all just ends up being emotional. I feel like I'm doing myself an injustice if I go super serious on it, but I feel like I'm doing past me an injustice by not experience it all again. Then again, this could all be a moot point since we haven't gotten to experience BC again. Maybe it will all just be a "you think you do but you don't" moment, leading to some initial fun but then some fatigue, which honestly may be the way to go since that means I won't feel bad about not playing constantly.
One saving grace though for BC is being able to play it with the WoW friends I've made over the years that I didn't get to experience it with back then. It'll be really neat to run better (when compared to Classic) content with them in an older and more punishing version of the game.
I'm over on Herod PVP which has been a hot server to play on and I gotta say, the Classic experience felt fantastic with an overwhelming number of people. There's just something so epic about walking into Org from the oversized front gates and into a sea of dirty Horde characters that says home to me. I don't get that feeling anymore with the current game since they redesigned the city.
I think it might be worth sticking out on a larger server, especially since we don't know how the BC population is going to be. Its possible a large chunk of players on your realm only really cared about Classic and they don't intend on playing BC longterm. It could turn an overwhelmingly high pop realm into just a normal high pop realm. With that possibility existing for Mankrik, the other two USEast PVE realms could also lose quite a bit of their populations due to the lack of BC interest. Though, $25 to change back isn't the end of the world if the other servers ended up sucking. Those realms are also likely to gain quite a few players back once BC hits which will last for at least some amount of time, making it potentially less risky of a move now if you're possibly only going to play a ton during the first few months.
Damn, there are so many stupid things to consider. FWIW I've played on a ton of private servers as well and I agree, low populations aren't even all that bad. In fact, even on retail, one of my favourite times playing the game was when I and my group of friends realm transferred when Wrath hit because of queue times. Blizzard goofed hardcore, made the new realm (Drak'Tharon) get overpopulated and then when they let people transfer off, the realm became a deserted wasteland overnight. None of us wanted to transfer off to the realm choices since they all seemed lame, so we proceeded to basically run the server. That isn't to say we controlled Drak'Tharon, but it was a ton of fun having a very tightknit community where you could penalize people who were being assholes. A positive for me though was I was able to be a troll without many repercussions since I could back that up with being one of the realm's best-geared players and performance to match it. I don't think I'd do low population again though since those are all merged realms and its just too weird to see realm names of other players in guild chat.
New Rogue Hero somewhat confirmed?
Marin honestly doesn't even sound unlikely. Assuming they tie him into some new expansion thematically
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New Rogue Hero somewhat confirmed?
Now technically he isn't a Rogue card. But I would love to see Marin the Fox. (Part of me also wants Patches the Pirate but what are the odds of that happening?)
Swain is Legend of Runeterra's Latest Champion - New Noxus Cards Revealed
Maybe there’ll be a Seige Engines plus Funsmith deck?
Swain is Legend of Runeterra's Latest Champion - New Noxus Cards Revealed
It seems like this package would go really well with Sejuani. I’m excited about Imperial Demolitionist with Vlad too.
New Rogue Hero somewhat confirmed?
my money would be on Vanessa, seeing how that was her original purpose as well
New Rogue Hero somewhat confirmed?
so if EDWIN gets HOF who'll replace him as the classic legendary?
Val'anyr Bookadin
I haven’t explored that avenue, no. But now I want to do that with a Stonetusk Boar in the deck. :)
Metamorphosis OTK
Thank you for your constructive criticism.
While most games pulling off the 40 damage turn will require set up prior, if you get lucky Skull draws while in Outcast it can be a true OTK. But even if you have to do some set up for the 40 damage turn, most OTK decks require set up. So this is no different.
WoW Classic - "Is you is, or is you ain't my baby"
Seems like you're quite passionate about it as well. I think your statement that you "have to unconditionally love which I hate" is spot on though. It's such a immersive and well polished MMO but at the same time I can't help but feel that it's like watching a child grow up, and then realizing that your child didn't turn out how you expect. You still love them, but it's not the same.
Specifically regarding classic-expansion content. At what point does blizzard feasibly stop the re-release train? I always said that Wrath was the peak of WoW (both in terms of it's core demographic, popularity, peak concurrent subscribers and it's ability to create good content that didn't completely obviate the systems that it had developed prior). I mean, I don't think it's feasible for Blizzard to just re-release all expansions. There has to be a stopping point. I feel fairly confident that they will release Burning Crusade though. (Just look at Hearthstone and WoW...*in case of emergency, re-release BC content*)
On a side note, when did they send out a survey regarding TBC? To whom? Was it random subscribers? (I was unsubbed for the past 3-4 months).
On a personal note, I still feel unsure about playing Vanilla to "fast track" my way through TBC. The class I'm looking forward to the most is horde paladins (i.e. blood elfs) and there's no way to fast track that other than hording gold and possible materials considering I'll have to level from 1-60 before I can even start the BC content.
As for other classes, as mentioned in my OP, I've considered leveling some alts in preparation for an eventual TBC release, but playing WoW casually is never something I've been great at. Many times I'll get messages from randoms or even friends to join a dungeon or raid. Joining a dungeon in Vanilla can be as little as an hour commitment (in the case of a dungeon like Scarlet Monastery) or can be a multi hour commitment (in the case of LBRS or BRD). Conversely, even raiding casually can end up being more of a time sink than you like. While there are guilds who can clear the newly released ZG in an hour or two, there are going to be guilds who can't clear half of it in 3 hours.
TBC raids and dungeons felt more like appropriate bite sized chunks, which is partly why I love the expansion. Personally I feel very dichotic about the situation, torn between my "love hate relationship" with the game, and my ability to play it casually in a mindset of "walk away". But when you've done the same leveling grinding multiple times in the past. The idea of leveling with no "end goal" other than "prepare for TBC" can create some pretty exhausting burnout, but time-investment wise and mentally.
I feel like I'm ranting, but know what I mean Flux?
Addendum: My final issue with WoW currently is playerbase. I'm currently on Mankirk, a USEast PvE server with a very very high population. So much so that Org feels crowded. The only other US East PvE realms available are Ashkandi and Windseeker. Both with VERY low populations. I don't like overpopulated servers, and there's been queues lately, but there aren't any free transfers going on from Mankirk right now, and to top it off I don't want to force my friend to transfer either, possibly to a server that may die off before TBC releases (ashkandi and windseeker both have about 4000 less horde players than Mankirk.
As someone who played on private servers in the past, I don't mind small populations. You manage just fine without having thousands of players online at the same time, but it does pose a problem both perception wise, and logistically.
Quest Mage and Darkest Hour Warlock Changes Coming! Expect Changes to Open the Waygate and Bloodbloom
The better builds don't even use Archmage Vargoth. That's usually a "win-more" card.
Metamorphosis OTK
OP could have phrased it better, but if you have already played Metamorphosis, then Garrison Commander, Clockwork Automaton, and Prince Taldaram combined with your hero power is a 40 damage OTK. Sure it requires setup and mana cheating from Emperor Thaurissan or Skull of Gul'dan, but most if not all OTK require setup.