In building this deck, I realized just how many bad rush minions there are. I honestly think the biggest issue with Rush right now is Faceless Corruptor.
Thank the gods that is over! That was an extremely un-fun event that was completely dominated by Simic. I've seen enough Agents of Treachery and Thassa, Deep-Dwelling for the day, thanks! (And yes, I became so disgusted with those decks that I had to build one of my own) lol
Perhaps then, you should stop basing your life around patch notes then, yes? 24 hours and no fix! OMG Better alert the pentagon that a company didn't fabricate a fix in less than 24 hours!
The only thing that IS a joke is your expectations that companies deploy non-critical fixes in less than 24 hours. It's very easy to see when people (like you) have no idea how the software industry works, and spend their time complaining about *literally* everything.
Want a positive takeaway? Try to be grateful a little more. Be grateful you have internet, heating, a house, a mobile phone to screw around on at work, a job that pays you well, food in your belly. How about you stop acting like an ungrateful little cretin and you'll find that things like small bugs in video games just don't bother you as much anymore.
Wow, I obviously touched a raw nerve there!
A general principle of commerce is that, when you pay for something, it's expected to do what it's advertised to do. My issue with Blizzard at present is that, with several patches they've released recently, they have made the game unplayable for a significant proportion of their users, meaning that I've lost confidence in their quality assurance process. I also take issue with them releasing a product (mage bundle) then retroactively changing its advertising after people have bought it. As I said above, that's just not honest.
Feel free to reply, or not. If you do though, it would be nice if you were a bit more classy about it. The vitriol and name calling you gave in to in your earlier post doesn't really do much to advance the discussion. It might be worth taking your own advice and not getting so worked up about what is, after all, a pretty trivial matter in the grand scheme of things.
Emote spamming is not the only BM that exists though. A lot of what's been getting me is the intentionally roping (intentional meaning every turn or after they've already made their play or even when they obviously have lethal).
I guess my main point: Blizz ALREADY HAS this set up for OW - I can't imagine porting to another one of their games would take much effort.
And while maybe it isn't "necessary" for any one individual match, it can absolutely be good for the overall health of the game to encourage your player to not be juvenile asshats.
To my exact point: I've played a lot less HS the last few days then I normally do in part because I've had my fill of the BM right now. I would expect I'm neither the first nor last player to scale back/stop playing entirely after dealing with consistently toxic opponents.
If their roping gets to you, just concede and move on.
You do not know what the person on the other side of the board is dealing with. I mostly play on my phone, and I also have a 3 year old son. Do you have any idea how many times I have accidentally roped someone? Just because someone is roping you, doesn't mean it's intentional or meant to be BM. Since you cannot see the person, and can only interact with them through emotes, how their actions are interpreted is up to you.
I personally run into a possible intentional roper only once or twice a month. If I'm impatient, I'll concede and move on. Otherwise, I'll find something else to distract myself and treat them the exact same way they are treating me.
Beyond emotes and "roping", there is not any real social interaction in the game that would make an endorsement system effective. Both emotes and roping are completely up to interpretation. If some stranger taking the full time that the game allows to take a turn really triggers you that much, I think you should be looking internally at yourself and how you view other people's actions instead of calling for an endorsement system that won't do anything to fix the problem.
I used to get really triggered by BM and roping too. I can honestly say my life has improved since I took a hard look at myself and realized how stupid it was for me to get triggered by a person hitting an emote or taking the entirety of their turn to make a play.
People wanted an overly board centric min-maxing minion trading Hearthstone (or they thought they wanted it) so here we are. Next time control players should be careful what they wish for.
Less RNG would really make this game so much better imo.
My concern with less rng is that matches become much more solved and pre-determined in many scenarios. Saw this in Yu-Gi-Oh all of the time, which does have rng but still not as much as HS and you would still get these matches where you generally knew who was going to win (if it wasn't a mirror match) solely due to who was playing what. Generally the only things that swung the match was the draw and shuffle rng and if somehow someway a skilled player had a brain fart and stopped forgetting how to make correct plays for a couple of turns.
Just look at some very powerful decks that had little to no rng but were often solved from the get-go as to who was going to win the match-up (pre nerf Kingsbane vs control, pre nerf Pirate Warrior vs reno decks that didn't draw Reno, pre nerf Big Priest vs many control decks or vs aggro when 100% guaranteeing multiple statue rezes, pre nerf Caverns Quest Rogue vs control).
I absolutely LOATHED the pre-nerf Kingsbane decks in wild. Even with rolling with a Reno Mage, with multiple ping opportunities and transform effects for maximum water elemental generation I still often lost the match-ups on ladder, which was supposed to generally favor my end of the match-up.
Double Vanish to clear water eles
Up to 4 Saps to address my turns when I built up a double water ele turn
1-2 Doomerangs (or whatever it was called)
1-2 weapon aoes
On top of that you had to actually produce enough pressure to bait out all of the above answers to water eles, which often still wasn't enough when playing many minions for tempo instead of for value. Most idiotic deck ever as it didn't just punish control, or just OTKs, but slaughtered almost anything that wasn't aggressive or tempo based in a lot of instances. I am very much against for mass nerfing of most decks or cards for the sake of preserving as many decks in the game as possible, but even I was super glad about the control killing Kingsbane deck getting curbstomped beyond recognition (Hoped they enjoyed their significantly weaker lul Kingsbane Pirate decks.
However, I don't think it would discourage as much BMing as you'd hope. Some players honestly might just have a bad day IRL and in their minds wants to vent that frustration through BMing on a video game. Would such a player really care that for that day or week they wouldn't get a little extra gold, dust, or whatever the incentive was?
How about the players that play fairly casually (in this case being defined as not a whole lot of hours per week) and again don't care a whole lot about the incentives, but just want a kick out of some BMing?
I need help ! My account was reinitialized and I don't know why. I tried to write to the support but when I sent the rapport, the website page of support is only refresh and nothing append :'(
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Over 24 hours and still no fix, in fact not even an official acknowledgement that there's any sort of issue. The combination of sloppy testing, combined with the ninja update (effectively lying to your customers) is just one more illustration of how comprehensively blizzard are managing to screw things up.
What a joke.
It's getting to the stage that, when a new update is announced, I've stopped getting excited about the prospect of new features, rewards, etc., and am simply resigned to the fact that blizzard are going to screw up the game for the next few days.
Perhaps then, you should stop basing your life around patch notes then, yes? 24 hours and no fix! OMG Better alert the pentagon that a company didn't fabricate a fix in less than 24 hours!
The only thing that IS a joke is your expectations that companies deploy non-critical fixes in less than 24 hours. It's very easy to see when people (like you) have no idea how the software industry works, and spend their time complaining about *literally* everything.
Want a positive takeaway? Try to be grateful a little more. Be grateful you have internet, heating, a house, a mobile phone to screw around on at work, a job that pays you well, food in your belly. How about you stop acting like an ungrateful little cretin and you'll find that things like small bugs in video games just don't bother you as much anymore.
Wow dude. While I mostly agree, I'm not sure you are the right person to teach people about morals or how to be grateful for things life has given.
I do think however that a company like Blizzard should indeed come up with a fix for an issue not allowing half their playerbase to play on their phones in 24 hours.
I want a rotating format so bad. I would love to play my old cards without having to go up against the most OP decks imaginable. That's one of the things I like about rank 20-10 in wild. No one's playing busted garbage like odd paladin and quest mage, so you get to see the cards or decks you might miss, like Jade Idol and Deathstalker Rexxar.
The problem with that is regardless of what you rotate out (whether in wild or standard) the meta dust will settle eventually and optimized lists will start forming again with what cards are left. While I play for fun, and ocasionally for a good deck, some players do just play for hard consistency.
So while Timmy may want to roll with his N'Zoth Control Pally he will still have to roll against Sally's weakened wild aggro deck that will still frustrate Timmy.
When the meta has settled, it will be time for the next rotation. That's what is appealing in a rotating format, you don't need to be bored waiting for 3 more months for another card set (and still hope this given set really shakes the meta)...
Fair point, but there still will be boredom even in that type of format for the players that do get bored more easily. Some cards, when rotated back in, would warp the meta to some degree.
For example, any class that has one of the stronger KotFT DKs would most likely have their winrates skyrocket during the rare time any of those particular cards were eventually rotated back in for a season (particularly Gul'Dan and Jaina). The same can be said for a number of other cards, albeit to a lesser degree than the DKs, when they would also be rotated in.
I picture such a rotating format to be like some pseudo arena format in so much as you can more or less determine which classes will most likely be the top 3 or 4 classes based on what tools they have available in their class pool for that period. You'd just be able to actually draft your decks without the randomness of the arena draft system.
All in all a rotating system would have significantly less staleness by comparison, but the format would still have its own 'mini storm' of stale predictability. Priests have powerful midrange dragons and the tools the other classes have don't strongly repel that? Guess we're stuck with Dragon Priest for a month? Warlocks or mages have their DK while the other classes don't have theirs guess you're never winning the value game with another class for a month. While such scenarios could be reduced in length depending on how and how long rotations actually last there's not much preventing the cream of the crop for any particular playstyle or deck from dominating their own respective mini metas.
I want a rotating format so bad. I would love to play my old cards without having to go up against the most OP decks imaginable. That's one of the things I like about rank 20-10 in wild. No one's playing busted garbage like odd paladin and quest mage, so you get to see the cards or decks you might miss, like Jade Idol and Deathstalker Rexxar.
The problem with that is regardless of what you rotate out (whether in wild or standard) the meta dust will settle eventually and optimized lists will start forming again with what cards are left. While I play for fun, and ocasionally for a good deck, some players do just play for hard consistency.
So while Timmy may want to roll with his N'Zoth Control Pally he will still have to roll against Sally's weakened wild aggro deck that will still frustrate Timmy.
When the meta has settled, it will be time for the next rotation. That's what is appealing in a rotating format, you don't need to be bored waiting for 3 more months for another card set (and still hope this given set really shakes the meta)...
[Game] Name another card that has the same...
Auctionmaster Beardo
Task: 3 mana legendary
Does anyone else feel like rush has ruined the game?
Something like this?
Wild · Unknown Hunter · by Xarkkal · 6 years, 7 months ago
In building this deck, I realized just how many bad rush minions there are. I honestly think the biggest issue with Rush right now is Faceless Corruptor.
[Game] Name another card that has the same...
Dread Raven
Technically doesn't require more than two, but duplicating it is encouraged.
A 3 mana 3/4.
Quest Trading - Play A Friend!
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The Festival of the Gods Event Series Continues with Nylea's Call of the Wild - Giant Monsters Emblem with 3 Card Styles
Thank the gods that is over! That was an extremely un-fun event that was completely dominated by Simic. I've seen enough Agents of Treachery and Thassa, Deep-Dwelling for the day, thanks! (And yes, I became so disgusted with those decks that I had to build one of my own) lol
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Hunter deck has exactly one wild card and it's not even a good aggro card.
Just got Masters tips/guide
Made an ama on Reddit but I don't mind sharing tips/decks ect.
Deck: CEBACAIAGYEACBIOCATSQKRRGU4AEAIBAAKQKAIFAMKBMIBCAEAQCAAP
Proof: https://imgur.com/a/nKi7pPg
& Documented it all on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-tJREOFgnU&feature=youtu.be
Tips:
1: Look at the enemy faction and decide what type of deck they will be playing.
2: Pull up a spreadsheet showing all spells of every faction
3: Decide if you will be playing aggressively or defensively this match
4: When do you plan to end the match? Early? Mid-game? Late game?
5: Learn from every single mistake. Do not get angry just LEARN!
6: BOARD CONTROL!! Learn when to trade and when to attack the enemy directly. Board control is very important.
7:Play a lot and understand you're playstyle and the enemies.
I primarily upload on my youtube channel but I'm hoping to start streaming every day if anyone is interested.
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Yay, I made it there!
I just wanted to point out that my Mountain Mage is actually viable, and tuned for meta purposes. Not a meta-breaker, but not a meme either.
I wish I could go with a slower build and more powerhouses, but the meta doesn't really allow that...
why is frostbite burst again?
Always consider that spells resolve from left to right, in the order they're placed on the "bar" in the mid screen.
Hearthstone's 16.4 Update is a Mess - Mage Bundle Nerf, Mobile Issues, Battlegrounds Queues, Unnerfed Ghostly Mogu Fleshshaper
Wow, I obviously touched a raw nerve there!
A general principle of commerce is that, when you pay for something, it's expected to do what it's advertised to do. My issue with Blizzard at present is that, with several patches they've released recently, they have made the game unplayable for a significant proportion of their users, meaning that I've lost confidence in their quality assurance process. I also take issue with them releasing a product (mage bundle) then retroactively changing its advertising after people have bought it. As I said above, that's just not honest.
Feel free to reply, or not. If you do though, it would be nice if you were a bit more classy about it. The vitriol and name calling you gave in to in your earlier post doesn't really do much to advance the discussion. It might be worth taking your own advice and not getting so worked up about what is, after all, a pretty trivial matter in the grand scheme of things.
HS needs an Endorsement system like Overwatch
If their roping gets to you, just concede and move on.
You do not know what the person on the other side of the board is dealing with. I mostly play on my phone, and I also have a 3 year old son. Do you have any idea how many times I have accidentally roped someone? Just because someone is roping you, doesn't mean it's intentional or meant to be BM. Since you cannot see the person, and can only interact with them through emotes, how their actions are interpreted is up to you.
I personally run into a possible intentional roper only once or twice a month. If I'm impatient, I'll concede and move on. Otherwise, I'll find something else to distract myself and treat them the exact same way they are treating me.
Beyond emotes and "roping", there is not any real social interaction in the game that would make an endorsement system effective. Both emotes and roping are completely up to interpretation. If some stranger taking the full time that the game allows to take a turn really triggers you that much, I think you should be looking internally at yourself and how you view other people's actions instead of calling for an endorsement system that won't do anything to fix the problem.
I used to get really triggered by BM and roping too. I can honestly say my life has improved since I took a hard look at myself and realized how stupid it was for me to get triggered by a person hitting an emote or taking the entirety of their turn to make a play.
[Game] Name another card that has the same...
Mogu Cultist
A card that requires more than 2 copies of the same minion to work
My account is reinitialized - I lost all my cards'n'decks :'(
Check if you logged in in the correct region, it happened to a friend that his launcher changed to NA for no reason
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I mean surely your best article to date! ;p
Does anyone else feel like rush has ruined the game?
People wanted an overly board centric min-maxing minion trading Hearthstone (or they thought they wanted it) so here we are. Next time control players should be careful what they wish for.
How to "cement HS for the next decade" speculations thread
My concern with less rng is that matches become much more solved and pre-determined in many scenarios. Saw this in Yu-Gi-Oh all of the time, which does have rng but still not as much as HS and you would still get these matches where you generally knew who was going to win (if it wasn't a mirror match) solely due to who was playing what. Generally the only things that swung the match was the draw and shuffle rng and if somehow someway a skilled player had a brain fart and stopped forgetting how to make correct plays for a couple of turns.
Just look at some very powerful decks that had little to no rng but were often solved from the get-go as to who was going to win the match-up (pre nerf Kingsbane vs control, pre nerf Pirate Warrior vs reno decks that didn't draw Reno, pre nerf Big Priest vs many control decks or vs aggro when 100% guaranteeing multiple statue rezes, pre nerf Caverns Quest Rogue vs control).
How to "cement HS for the next decade" speculations thread
This should be where the real point of the conversation is ;)
Worst deck archetype you've faced (mini rant thread)
I absolutely LOATHED the pre-nerf Kingsbane decks in wild. Even with rolling with a Reno Mage, with multiple ping opportunities and transform effects for maximum water elemental generation I still often lost the match-ups on ladder, which was supposed to generally favor my end of the match-up.
Double Vanish to clear water eles
Up to 4 Saps to address my turns when I built up a double water ele turn
1-2 Doomerangs (or whatever it was called)
1-2 weapon aoes
On top of that you had to actually produce enough pressure to bait out all of the above answers to water eles, which often still wasn't enough when playing many minions for tempo instead of for value. Most idiotic deck ever as it didn't just punish control, or just OTKs, but slaughtered almost anything that wasn't aggressive or tempo based in a lot of instances. I am very much against for mass nerfing of most decks or cards for the sake of preserving as many decks in the game as possible, but even I was super glad about the control killing Kingsbane deck getting curbstomped beyond recognition (Hoped they enjoyed their significantly weaker lul Kingsbane Pirate decks.
HS needs an Endorsement system like Overwatch
Interesting idea that I wouldn't be against.
However, I don't think it would discourage as much BMing as you'd hope. Some players honestly might just have a bad day IRL and in their minds wants to vent that frustration through BMing on a video game. Would such a player really care that for that day or week they wouldn't get a little extra gold, dust, or whatever the incentive was?
How about the players that play fairly casually (in this case being defined as not a whole lot of hours per week) and again don't care a whole lot about the incentives, but just want a kick out of some BMing?
My account is reinitialized - I lost all my cards'n'decks :'(
Hello,
I need help ! My account was reinitialized and I don't know why. I tried to write to the support but when I sent the rapport, the website page of support is only refresh and nothing append :'(
I want to play with my caaaaaards and my decks :''''O
((I am french, so sorry if my english is bad :/ ))
Hearthstone's 16.4 Update is a Mess - Mage Bundle Nerf, Mobile Issues, Battlegrounds Queues, Unnerfed Ghostly Mogu Fleshshaper
Wow dude. While I mostly agree, I'm not sure you are the right person to teach people about morals or how to be grateful for things life has given.
I do think however that a company like Blizzard should indeed come up with a fix for an issue not allowing half their playerbase to play on their phones in 24 hours.
Blizzard's Dean Ayala Talks About No Plans for Wild Nerfs & Asks the Community About Rotating Formats
Fair point, but there still will be boredom even in that type of format for the players that do get bored more easily. Some cards, when rotated back in, would warp the meta to some degree.
For example, any class that has one of the stronger KotFT DKs would most likely have their winrates skyrocket during the rare time any of those particular cards were eventually rotated back in for a season (particularly Gul'Dan and Jaina). The same can be said for a number of other cards, albeit to a lesser degree than the DKs, when they would also be rotated in.
I picture such a rotating format to be like some pseudo arena format in so much as you can more or less determine which classes will most likely be the top 3 or 4 classes based on what tools they have available in their class pool for that period. You'd just be able to actually draft your decks without the randomness of the arena draft system.
All in all a rotating system would have significantly less staleness by comparison, but the format would still have its own 'mini storm' of stale predictability. Priests have powerful midrange dragons and the tools the other classes have don't strongly repel that? Guess we're stuck with Dragon Priest for a month? Warlocks or mages have their DK while the other classes don't have theirs guess you're never winning the value game with another class for a month. While such scenarios could be reduced in length depending on how and how long rotations actually last there's not much preventing the cream of the crop for any particular playstyle or deck from dominating their own respective mini metas.
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Thank goodness it is a leap year, I almost didn't make rank 5.
Blizzard's Dean Ayala Talks About No Plans for Wild Nerfs & Asks the Community About Rotating Formats
When the meta has settled, it will be time for the next rotation. That's what is appealing in a rotating format, you don't need to be bored waiting for 3 more months for another card set (and still hope this given set really shakes the meta)...
Why is no one playing Lucian/Senna?
Lucian/Sena is actually quite good and i've seem it quite often as a rogue deck at high ranks to counter Ionian decks.
Its very weak vs Ez and Shadow Island control thou.