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Yeah but, you have to do something alongside it. I'm a rogue main with well over 4000 wins with the class, so I know very well how much that combo keyword matters, and even on 1 mana cards it's not trivial. Quite often it will just be waiting in the hand in the early game because you either don't have the spare mana or didn't have anything else to do that turn, and quite often the 1 damage will just go face because there's nothing good to do with it.
I'm not saying it's bad by any stretch. Indeed, it'll probably see plenty of play, but the combo constraint means it probably won't feel anything special. Keep in mind Tracking exists, and while it gets used, nobody has ever given it very much attention. If it wasn't for the reappearance of reborn supplying lots of 1-health minions in the mid-to-late game, I'd confidently say I'd rather have Tracking. Hence, I'm not too fussed about Ghostly Strike. (I know, different classes, but you get the point.)
Amazing with just a little spell damage or the new Enchanter. This can kill a minion and draw at least 2 cards for 2, that is great. Sure it's turn 6 or later and 2 isn't always enough that late but even a deal 2 draw 2 will feel good I think.
A change from 8 to 7 mana is not as big, but changing a card from 2 to 1 mana is 50% cheaper. Thats a lot. 1 mana can easily be comboed by anything in rogue. Seems strong to me
This concoction rogue is turning out to be quite interesting and unique. Can definitely see a XL rogue playing slower with this cards. This spell will be front and center of the archetype
Yoh the power creep is real. Poor Arcane Explosion is definitely upset about this one. This spell could also be a comeback tool if you low on health. Gonna be an annoying and frequent spell to see for the next year.
This seems bad in comparison to Unleash Fel. Sure there will be easier ways to get spell damage in Hunter but still, probably the worst arcane spell aside from Arcane Shot
Draw that scales for hunter. Something you don't see everyday. The Manathirst breakpoint is at an ideal stage in the mid game too where Hunter would usually be low on cards. Looks promising due to the draw design. If anything, it'll be good in Quest hunter.
So I'm assuming you get 2 4/4 Lynxes with additional spell damage right? This spell would probably be the best arcane spell out of the lot honestly. If the archetype were to take off, it'd be coz of this spell.
Kinda lame that this is basically the same effect as Halduron Brightwing but for arcane spells in your hand. This minion is ofc weaker coz you don't want to hold onto your spells, but hey, not idea how this new archetype will function. It'll probably be more midrange and have Renathal, like the current beast hunter... ah, honestly I'd just play beast hunter.
We'd need a lot more arcane spell support for this legendary to be any good but I'm sure we'll get more eventually. For now though, with just 5 arcane spells in Standard, we'd need a lot more help. This legendary might be good, but we'll just have to wait a bit.
The real clincher to me is actually how well and consistent Conjured Arrow would work in practice, because the manathirst is currently the only thing stopping this card from absolutely transforming the hunter gameplan. Which is why I thought it would work in face hunter, because that deck suffered immensely from its lack of tempo in the early game and draw in the late game - which is why its not a very good deck, as opposed to other aggro decks like implock and dhunter.
So in a world where we can exercise conjured arrow reliably on turn 6, you can draw upwards to 4 cards with Talented Arcanist, or if youre juicing that card then it'll be at least 5. That's not insignificant for a class that can easily burn 10 damage with two cards. The draw also allows you to fit in janky cards like Talented Arcanist, Twinbow Terrorcoil etc.
Im not 100% behind this at all, purely because the manathirst condition of conjured arrow is currently way too severe, and the fact that all these cards are clunky as hell for hunter. Cant say for sure until we get our hands on it. But at least its one direction hunter can look forward to.
Honestly, if the whole package doesn't work, I wont be too surprised to see the manathirst condition be reduced to 4 in a later buff.
So I see where Blizzard is coming from in making an arcane spell damage hunter, it thematically matches the expansion with the Blood Elves who love arcane magic, yea that makes sense. As for viability though... that's asking for a lot. I highly doubt this arcane package will be playable this expansion. We need much more support.
It's bizarre to me that the bulk of the comments here were about face hunter, as if a tiny-ass package of a few cards could bring face hunter back into a world where Theotar happened, while each of these cards screamed Quest Hunter.
Quest Hunter has no problem playing for board at start because it knows it has a crushingly-nasty lategame finisher and can afford to take lackadaisical early turns because if you haven't killed them early-on they get to turn their hand into a you-sized woodchipper . . . or an infinite value machine.
So Conjured Arrow and Eversong Portal are meant to make that happen by providing value midgame, Arcane Quiver is meant to set up the former, and Ricochet Shot is either (preferrably) a payoff card when the other cards work. Twinbow Terrorcoil is somewhere in there giving you the breathing space to clean up your opponent's board and set up a fat hand of repeated hero powers.
I can't even begin to understand how this would work for Face Hunter which would keel over, even with perfect hands, against a Paladin spamming Maki Rolls or a Mage reducing damage to their face to 1.
Anyway, the problem with this is that there are almost no Arcane cards for Hunter and if Hunter plays with its best cards, the non-Arcane spells will absolutely destroy Arcane Quiver (and that's both in Standard and Wild). So just like that, the most questionable part of the combo is trash and D.O.A.
So now your problems are tutoring and/or massive amounts of draw to make up for tutoring because you need to a) play Halduron Brightwing, preferrably multiple times then b) get these three Arcane spells in your hand -- four if you include the worst one, and I don't think that you can.
So you're playing Stitched Tracker, imo. The first option is to play almost no minions such that Stitched Tracker always nabs a Halduron Brightwing, then fill your deck with Dredge and Discover to draw the real one and get yourself set up that way. The other is to play with other useful minions and just hope for the best with the Tracker. (I feel you're always playing Tracker -- that could be my error right there.)
This feels very janky, and is a thousand-times-over why it could never work in face Hunter, but even in Quest, getting your spells in the wrong order or the wrong time will feel really bad and it's the non-Arcane spells that are carrying you.
This package of cards feels like the follow-up to an Alternate Earth Hearthstone where Team 5 was giving Hunter real Arcane support for a year.
Cool but... not impressive? I don't know, it's definitely a new take on Spell Damage deck, but for some reason these cards don't spark any enthusiasm in me...
That in mind, it'd be fun if the Diamond card were decided AFTER the expansion launch - imagine a Horde V Alliance sort of event to decide which legendary gets the Diamond treatment.
That's exactly what we had with Vanndar and Drek'thar in AV (not counting the very expensive Drek'thar version being made available to purchase later on).
5 New Warlock Cards (2 Legendaries!) Revealed for Hearthstone's March of the Lich King Expansion by Feelink
ohhh man these look so fun im so excited for Warlock in this set
New Warlock Minion - Infantry Reanimator
A new Common Warlock Minion, Infantry Reanimator, has been revealed!
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New Warlock Spell - Twisted Tether
A new Rare Warlock Spell, Twisted Tether, has been revealed!
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New Warlock Spell - Shallow Grave
A new Epic Warlock Spell, Shallow Grave, has been revealed!
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5 New Warlock Cards (2 Legendaries!) Revealed for Hearthstone's March of the Lich King Expansion by Feelink
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Special Bonus Rogue Card Reveal for Hearthstone's March of the Lich King Expansion From Mams
Yeah but, you have to do something alongside it. I'm a rogue main with well over 4000 wins with the class, so I know very well how much that combo keyword matters, and even on 1 mana cards it's not trivial. Quite often it will just be waiting in the hand in the early game because you either don't have the spare mana or didn't have anything else to do that turn, and quite often the 1 damage will just go face because there's nothing good to do with it.
I'm not saying it's bad by any stretch. Indeed, it'll probably see plenty of play, but the combo constraint means it probably won't feel anything special. Keep in mind Tracking exists, and while it gets used, nobody has ever given it very much attention. If it wasn't for the reappearance of reborn supplying lots of 1-health minions in the mid-to-late game, I'd confidently say I'd rather have Tracking. Hence, I'm not too fussed about Ghostly Strike. (I know, different classes, but you get the point.)
5 New Hunter Cards Revealed for Hearthstone's March of the Lich King Expansion by Iyingdi
Nope, spell damage support, while face damage quest hunter still exist, nope.
New Hunter Spell - Conjured Arrow
Amazing with just a little spell damage or the new Enchanter. This can kill a minion and draw at least 2 cards for 2, that is great. Sure it's turn 6 or later and 2 isn't always enough that late but even a deal 2 draw 2 will feel good I think.
Special Bonus Rogue Card Reveal for Hearthstone's March of the Lich King Expansion From Mams
A change from 8 to 7 mana is not as big, but changing a card from 2 to 1 mana is 50% cheaper. Thats a lot. 1 mana can easily be comboed by anything in rogue. Seems strong to me
New Rogue Spell - Potion Belt
This concoction rogue is turning out to be quite interesting and unique. Can definitely see a XL rogue playing slower with this cards. This spell will be front and center of the archetype
New Demon Hunter Spell - Unleash Fel
Yoh the power creep is real. Poor Arcane Explosion is definitely upset about this one. This spell could also be a comeback tool if you low on health. Gonna be an annoying and frequent spell to see for the next year.
New Hunter Spell - Ricochet Shot
This seems bad in comparison to Unleash Fel. Sure there will be easier ways to get spell damage in Hunter but still, probably the worst arcane spell aside from Arcane Shot
Special Bonus Rogue Card Reveal for Hearthstone's March of the Lich King Expansion From Mams
I'm with you. A conditional 1 mana Shiv just doesn't sound that noteworthy.
New Hunter Spell - Conjured Arrow
Draw that scales for hunter. Something you don't see everyday. The Manathirst breakpoint is at an ideal stage in the mid game too where Hunter would usually be low on cards. Looks promising due to the draw design. If anything, it'll be good in Quest hunter.
New Hunter Spell - Eversong Portal
So I'm assuming you get 2 4/4 Lynxes with additional spell damage right? This spell would probably be the best arcane spell out of the lot honestly. If the archetype were to take off, it'd be coz of this spell.
New Hunter Minion - Silvermoon Farstrider
Kinda lame that this is basically the same effect as Halduron Brightwing but for arcane spells in your hand. This minion is ofc weaker coz you don't want to hold onto your spells, but hey, not idea how this new archetype will function. It'll probably be more midrange and have Renathal, like the current beast hunter... ah, honestly I'd just play beast hunter.
New Hunter Minion - Halduron Brightwing
We'd need a lot more arcane spell support for this legendary to be any good but I'm sure we'll get more eventually. For now though, with just 5 arcane spells in Standard, we'd need a lot more help. This legendary might be good, but we'll just have to wait a bit.
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I don't see the point of this post.
5 New Hunter Cards Revealed for Hearthstone's March of the Lich King Expansion by Iyingdi
The real clincher to me is actually how well and consistent Conjured Arrow would work in practice, because the manathirst is currently the only thing stopping this card from absolutely transforming the hunter gameplan. Which is why I thought it would work in face hunter, because that deck suffered immensely from its lack of tempo in the early game and draw in the late game - which is why its not a very good deck, as opposed to other aggro decks like implock and dhunter.
So in a world where we can exercise conjured arrow reliably on turn 6, you can draw upwards to 4 cards with Talented Arcanist, or if youre juicing that card then it'll be at least 5. That's not insignificant for a class that can easily burn 10 damage with two cards. The draw also allows you to fit in janky cards like Talented Arcanist, Twinbow Terrorcoil etc.
Im not 100% behind this at all, purely because the manathirst condition of conjured arrow is currently way too severe, and the fact that all these cards are clunky as hell for hunter. Cant say for sure until we get our hands on it. But at least its one direction hunter can look forward to.
Honestly, if the whole package doesn't work, I wont be too surprised to see the manathirst condition be reduced to 4 in a later buff.
5 New Hunter Cards Revealed for Hearthstone's March of the Lich King Expansion by Iyingdi
So I see where Blizzard is coming from in making an arcane spell damage hunter, it thematically matches the expansion with the Blood Elves who love arcane magic, yea that makes sense. As for viability though... that's asking for a lot. I highly doubt this arcane package will be playable this expansion. We need much more support.
5 New Hunter Cards Revealed for Hearthstone's March of the Lich King Expansion by Iyingdi
It's bizarre to me that the bulk of the comments here were about face hunter, as if a tiny-ass package of a few cards could bring face hunter back into a world where Theotar happened, while each of these cards screamed Quest Hunter.
Quest Hunter has no problem playing for board at start because it knows it has a crushingly-nasty lategame finisher and can afford to take lackadaisical early turns because if you haven't killed them early-on they get to turn their hand into a you-sized woodchipper . . . or an infinite value machine.
So Conjured Arrow and Eversong Portal are meant to make that happen by providing value midgame, Arcane Quiver is meant to set up the former, and Ricochet Shot is either (preferrably) a payoff card when the other cards work. Twinbow Terrorcoil is somewhere in there giving you the breathing space to clean up your opponent's board and set up a fat hand of repeated hero powers.
I can't even begin to understand how this would work for Face Hunter which would keel over, even with perfect hands, against a Paladin spamming Maki Rolls or a Mage reducing damage to their face to 1.
Anyway, the problem with this is that there are almost no Arcane cards for Hunter and if Hunter plays with its best cards, the non-Arcane spells will absolutely destroy Arcane Quiver (and that's both in Standard and Wild). So just like that, the most questionable part of the combo is trash and D.O.A.
So now your problems are tutoring and/or massive amounts of draw to make up for tutoring because you need to a) play Halduron Brightwing, preferrably multiple times then b) get these three Arcane spells in your hand -- four if you include the worst one, and I don't think that you can.
So you're playing Stitched Tracker, imo. The first option is to play almost no minions such that Stitched Tracker always nabs a Halduron Brightwing, then fill your deck with Dredge and Discover to draw the real one and get yourself set up that way. The other is to play with other useful minions and just hope for the best with the Tracker. (I feel you're always playing Tracker -- that could be my error right there.)
This feels very janky, and is a thousand-times-over why it could never work in face Hunter, but even in Quest, getting your spells in the wrong order or the wrong time will feel really bad and it's the non-Arcane spells that are carrying you.
This package of cards feels like the follow-up to an Alternate Earth Hearthstone where Team 5 was giving Hunter real Arcane support for a year.
5 New Hunter Cards Revealed for Hearthstone's March of the Lich King Expansion by Iyingdi
Cool but... not impressive? I don't know, it's definitely a new take on Spell Damage deck, but for some reason these cards don't spark any enthusiasm in me...
5 New Hunter Cards Revealed for Hearthstone's March of the Lich King Expansion by Iyingdi
Is there a clarification on how Eversong Portal will work with spellpower?
Depending on if the amount of beasts (I assume it will have the beast tag) or their statline will change, this is either ok-ish or unplayable.
My hope due to the image is that it increases the number of summons, then it could be a solid 3 star card.
Five New Diamond Cards To Be Featured in Hearthstone With March of the Lich King
That's exactly what we had with Vanndar and Drek'thar in AV (not counting the very expensive Drek'thar version being made available to purchase later on).
5 New Hunter Cards Revealed for Hearthstone's March of the Lich King Expansion by Iyingdi
Gonna be hard to play Face Hunter when only two of your spells can even go face