I really don't get how people are misunderstanding me on this point.
YES, you ABSOLUTELY have the ability to play what/how you want. I am not saying you should be drug out into the street and beaten for doing this, or spawn camping in a FPS, or cheesing out a win in some fighting game. !!!BUT!!! so do I. And when "how you want to play" and "how I want to play" are in direct opposition to one another, the argument that "well you should let people be dicks or concede and give them a free win" sorry doesn't hold water with me.
You are 100% correct that roping doesn't solve any problem, but since Blizzard has shown absolutely 0 interest in addressing this I'm going to do what I think is right/fair. To take your exact argument: if you don't like me roping you for playing Tier 1 in Casual, you're free to concede to me and move on to someone else.
The thing is, they are not playing a tier one deck simply to annoy you, they are doing it for a reason. You are roping them because they are annoying you and you want to annoy them back, this does not seem like a very mature thing, and it doesn't do anything good for anyone. Maybe they are being selfish by farming gold on casual, but at least someone is gaining something from this, whereas you are just being annoying for the sake of being annoying. You are right that it is within your power to rope them if you want to, but just because you have the freedom to do something doesn't justify doing it.
You just admitted that roping doesn't solve any problem, all you have said to justify roping them is that you think it is right/fair. It is not right to ruin someones day just because they ruined yours, and maybe it is 'fair' to hit someone back when they hit you, but it isn't nice, and it doesn't do anything good for anyone.
Maybe it just came out now that they left??? I didn't even notice the date, I just went straight to the section talking about who these guys are.
This is what happened. I believe that the cancelled Ares project had been reported on before, but Eric, Jason and Dustin leaving wasn't known. Eric and Jason haven't been involved in Hearthstone for a while, but given they were incredibly influential on its development, it felt appropriate to note them leaving the company.
Guys, the reason this is reported now is because even though this happened in May, this is first time we've had any hearing about it. If you read the Kotaku article, you'd see that it was published two days ago.
1) If I get roped first, almost always on Turn 1 - that tends to get people to knock it off.
2) If I'm playing in Casual and come up against someone playing Tier 1 netdecks to gold farm those of us playing memes (as just happened with 6 Secret Highlander Paladins in a row this morning). As soon as I see what you are I rope every. single. turn. You want that easy win? Sure, but I'm going to suck up as much of your time as I possibly can. The more time you're stuck with me, the less time you can bother other people and I can just as easily read the news while I wait for my timer to burn down each turn.
Fundamentally, my philosophy is the same as that of 2nd century Chinese warrior-sage Zhuge Liang: "If you don't give a damn, we don't give a fuck (Hey!) Don't start no shit, it won't be no shit!" Truly a wise, wise man.
Might just be me, but wasting other people’s time because they’re playing a deck you don’t like doesn’t seem heroic or considerate. It’s just being a dick
Being a gold farmer in Casual is also being a dick. Give shitty, get shitty.
No it isn’t. Playing Casual doesn’t mean you have the right to punish the opponent for playing a deck that is unfun to you.
That's some fairly contradictory logic their friendo.
If YOU have the right to be a dick and play tier 1 decks to goldfarm those of us trying to meme it up (which you do - the game obviously doesn't stop you), then I have the right to ALSO be a dick and rope you for it (which I do - the game obviously doesn't stop me).
Fundamentally it's not about "unfun" - I personally don't find hyper aggro decks "fun" to play against, but I would NOT rope you for playing aggro Warrior or Zoolock since they're lower tier 2/upper tier 3 decks - the exact kind of deck CASUAL should be for. If you want to play Tier 1 decks, more power to you but stop being a little bitch and go play them on the ladder where they belong rather than wasting my time trying to farm gold off me and my garbage-tier meme decks.
I get it - you like to gold farm and want to self-justify why you're not as asshole. Go off then my dude, but recognize that other people disagree with you, and since the game only gives me one way to communicate that I think what you're doing hurts the overall game state (roping), you can bet I'm going to continue to do it.
Just because someone is annoying you doesn't give you the right to annoy them back. Two wrongs don't make a right. Revenge doesn't make people happy. Love your enemies. How is it that half the people on this thread don't get that?
Also, playing tier one decks on casual isn't a crime. Maybe you haven't considered this, but some people enjoy playing tier one decks not because they are super competitive and only care about winning, but because they think the deck is fun to play. People are allowed to play whatever they want in whatever way they want. And if that bothers you so much, then you can either suck it up and just play against them, or, if you really don't want to fight against a deck simply because its good, then you can concede and move on to the next match. It is not for you to decide what your opponent is allowed to have fun playing, and roping them doesn't help solve the problem.
I really don't get how people are misunderstanding me on this point.
YES, you ABSOLUTELY have the ability to play what/how you want. I am not saying you should be drug out into the street and beaten for doing this, or spawn camping in a FPS, or cheesing out a win in some fighting game. !!!BUT!!! so do I. And when "how you want to play" and "how I want to play" are in direct opposition to one another, the argument that "well you should let people be dicks or concede and give them a free win" sorry doesn't hold water with me.
You are 100% correct that roping doesn't solve any problem, but since Blizzard has shown absolutely 0 interest in addressing this I'm going to do what I think is right/fair. To take your exact argument: if you don't like me roping you for playing Tier 1 in Casual, you're free to concede to me and move on to someone else.
1) If I get roped first, almost always on Turn 1 - that tends to get people to knock it off.
2) If I'm playing in Casual and come up against someone playing Tier 1 netdecks to gold farm those of us playing memes (as just happened with 6 Secret Highlander Paladins in a row this morning). As soon as I see what you are I rope every. single. turn. You want that easy win? Sure, but I'm going to suck up as much of your time as I possibly can. The more time you're stuck with me, the less time you can bother other people and I can just as easily read the news while I wait for my timer to burn down each turn.
Fundamentally, my philosophy is the same as that of 2nd century Chinese warrior-sage Zhuge Liang: "If you don't give a damn, we don't give a fuck (Hey!) Don't start no shit, it won't be no shit!" Truly a wise, wise man.
Might just be me, but wasting other people’s time because they’re playing a deck you don’t like doesn’t seem heroic or considerate. It’s just being a dick
Being a gold farmer in Casual is also being a dick. Give shitty, get shitty.
Not everybody is a gold farmer. Maybe they are practicing before they jump into ladder, need a fast win for a quest because they don't have time, or don't care about ladder and find that deck fun to play like you find your meme deck fun. And besides, testing meme decks against meta decks should also be part of deckbuilding, then you can tweak it and maybe come up with something new that can actually compete.
While some of those are fair, quite simply I can't read someone's mind to ascertain their intentions. So by the time I've faced 6Highlander Secret Paladins IN A ROW (as happened to me on Monday) any chance that I might assume good intentions has long since left me since the statistical likelihood that NONE of them are goldfarmers is right about 0.00001%
I would however return to my general argument: people need to remember that there is someone else on the other side of that game board also trying to have fun. You want to "practice" with a tier 1 deck - fine, hit a rank floor on the ladder and practice there. Or just, you know, remember that it's just a game and if you don't make X rank this month because you lost a few games on the ladder the world isn't going to fall apart.
Okay, I get your point. Well, the Casual is still casual, everybody plays what they want. I think you got unlucky with your Highlander Pala streak, but if that deck bothers you that much, you could just concede to Paladin every time and just move on, saving your nerves. Eventually you will get lower tier decks to play against. Or you could invite some friends and play against them with your own rules. If you want, you could add me as well, I would enjoy an occasional friendly.
I can talk from my perspective, I also sometimes enter Casual (in Wild usually) with some strong deck to pass quest only, but the number of times I get in with a thrash quest deck and concede is far bigger. I usually play with friends when I want to meme.
1) If I get roped first, almost always on Turn 1 - that tends to get people to knock it off.
2) If I'm playing in Casual and come up against someone playing Tier 1 netdecks to gold farm those of us playing memes (as just happened with 6 Secret Highlander Paladins in a row this morning). As soon as I see what you are I rope every. single. turn. You want that easy win? Sure, but I'm going to suck up as much of your time as I possibly can. The more time you're stuck with me, the less time you can bother other people and I can just as easily read the news while I wait for my timer to burn down each turn.
Fundamentally, my philosophy is the same as that of 2nd century Chinese warrior-sage Zhuge Liang: "If you don't give a damn, we don't give a fuck (Hey!) Don't start no shit, it won't be no shit!" Truly a wise, wise man.
Might just be me, but wasting other people’s time because they’re playing a deck you don’t like doesn’t seem heroic or considerate. It’s just being a dick
Being a gold farmer in Casual is also being a dick. Give shitty, get shitty.
No it isn’t. Playing Casual doesn’t mean you have the right to punish the opponent for playing a deck that is unfun to you.
That's some fairly contradictory logic their friendo.
If YOU have the right to be a dick and play tier 1 decks to goldfarm those of us trying to meme it up (which you do - the game obviously doesn't stop you), then I have the right to ALSO be a dick and rope you for it (which I do - the game obviously doesn't stop me).
Fundamentally it's not about "unfun" - I personally don't find hyper aggro decks "fun" to play against, but I would NOT rope you for playing aggro Warrior or Zoolock since they're lower tier 2/upper tier 3 decks - the exact kind of deck CASUAL should be for. If you want to play Tier 1 decks, more power to you but stop being a little bitch and go play them on the ladder where they belong rather than wasting my time trying to farm gold off me and my garbage-tier meme decks.
I get it - you like to gold farm and want to self-justify why you're not as asshole. Go off then my dude, but recognize that other people disagree with you, and since the game only gives me one way to communicate that I think what you're doing hurts the overall game state (roping), you can bet I'm going to continue to do it.
Just because someone is annoying you doesn't give you the right to annoy them back. Two wrongs don't make a right. Revenge doesn't make people happy. Love your enemies. How is it that half the people on this thread don't get that?
Also, playing tier one decks on casual isn't a crime. Maybe you haven't considered this, but some people enjoy playing tier one decks not because they are super competitive and only care about winning, but because they think the deck is fun to play. People are allowed to play whatever they want in whatever way they want. And if that bothers you so much, then you can either suck it up and just play against them, or, if you really don't want to fight against a deck simply because its good, then you can concede and move on to the next match. It is not for you to decide what your opponent is allowed to have fun playing, and roping them doesn't help solve the problem.
1) If I get roped first, almost always on Turn 1 - that tends to get people to knock it off.
2) If I'm playing in Casual and come up against someone playing Tier 1 netdecks to gold farm those of us playing memes (as just happened with 6 Secret Highlander Paladins in a row this morning). As soon as I see what you are I rope every. single. turn. You want that easy win? Sure, but I'm going to suck up as much of your time as I possibly can. The more time you're stuck with me, the less time you can bother other people and I can just as easily read the news while I wait for my timer to burn down each turn.
Fundamentally, my philosophy is the same as that of 2nd century Chinese warrior-sage Zhuge Liang: "If you don't give a damn, we don't give a fuck (Hey!) Don't start no shit, it won't be no shit!" Truly a wise, wise man.
Might just be me, but wasting other people’s time because they’re playing a deck you don’t like doesn’t seem heroic or considerate. It’s just being a dick
Being a gold farmer in Casual is also being a dick. Give shitty, get shitty.
Not everybody is a gold farmer. Maybe they are practicing before they jump into ladder, need a fast win for a quest because they don't have time, or don't care about ladder and find that deck fun to play like you find your meme deck fun. And besides, testing meme decks against meta decks should also be part of deckbuilding, then you can tweak it and maybe come up with something new that can actually compete.
While some of those are fair, quite simply I can't read someone's mind to ascertain their intentions. So by the time I've faced 6Highlander Secret Paladins IN A ROW (as happened to me on Monday) any chance that I might assume good intentions has long since left me since the statistical likelihood that NONE of them are goldfarmers is right about 0.00001%
I would however return to my general argument: people need to remember that there is someone else on the other side of that game board also trying to have fun. You want to "practice" with a tier 1 deck - fine, hit a rank floor on the ladder and practice there. Or just, you know, remember that it's just a game and if you don't make X rank this month because you lost a few games on the ladder the world isn't going to fall apart.
1) If I get roped first, almost always on Turn 1 - that tends to get people to knock it off.
2) If I'm playing in Casual and come up against someone playing Tier 1 netdecks to gold farm those of us playing memes (as just happened with 6 Secret Highlander Paladins in a row this morning). As soon as I see what you are I rope every. single. turn. You want that easy win? Sure, but I'm going to suck up as much of your time as I possibly can. The more time you're stuck with me, the less time you can bother other people and I can just as easily read the news while I wait for my timer to burn down each turn.
Fundamentally, my philosophy is the same as that of 2nd century Chinese warrior-sage Zhuge Liang: "If you don't give a damn, we don't give a fuck (Hey!) Don't start no shit, it won't be no shit!" Truly a wise, wise man.
Might just be me, but wasting other people’s time because they’re playing a deck you don’t like doesn’t seem heroic or considerate. It’s just being a dick
Being a gold farmer in Casual is also being a dick. Give shitty, get shitty.
Not everybody is a gold farmer. Maybe they are practicing before they jump into ladder, need a fast win for a quest because they don't have time, or don't care about ladder and find that deck fun to play like you find your meme deck fun. And besides, testing meme decks against meta decks should also be part of deckbuilding, then you can tweak it and maybe come up with something new that can actually compete.
1) If I get roped first, almost always on Turn 1 - that tends to get people to knock it off.
2) If I'm playing in Casual and come up against someone playing Tier 1 netdecks to gold farm those of us playing memes (as just happened with 6 Secret Highlander Paladins in a row this morning). As soon as I see what you are I rope every. single. turn. You want that easy win? Sure, but I'm going to suck up as much of your time as I possibly can. The more time you're stuck with me, the less time you can bother other people and I can just as easily read the news while I wait for my timer to burn down each turn.
Fundamentally, my philosophy is the same as that of 2nd century Chinese warrior-sage Zhuge Liang: "If you don't give a damn, we don't give a fuck (Hey!) Don't start no shit, it won't be no shit!" Truly a wise, wise man.
Might just be me, but wasting other people’s time because they’re playing a deck you don’t like doesn’t seem heroic or considerate. It’s just being a dick
Being a gold farmer in Casual is also being a dick. Give shitty, get shitty.
No it isn’t. Playing Casual doesn’t mean you have the right to punish the opponent for playing a deck that is unfun to you.
That's some fairly contradictory logic their friendo.
If YOU have the right to be a dick and play tier 1 decks to goldfarm those of us trying to meme it up (which you do - the game obviously doesn't stop you), then I have the right to ALSO be a dick and rope you for it (which I do - the game obviously doesn't stop me).
Fundamentally it's not about "unfun" - I personally don't find hyper aggro decks "fun" to play against, but I would NOT rope you for playing aggro Warrior or Zoolock since they're lower tier 2/upper tier 3 decks - the exact kind of deck CASUAL should be for. If you want to play Tier 1 decks, more power to you but stop being a little bitch and go play them on the ladder where they belong rather than wasting my time trying to farm gold off me and my garbage-tier meme decks.
I get it - you like to gold farm and want to self-justify why you're not as asshole. Go off then my dude, but recognize that other people disagree with you, and since the game only gives me one way to communicate that I think what you're doing hurts the overall game state (roping), you can bet I'm going to continue to do it.
I often do something different for the community. Whenever I am at about Rank 5 and get matched with a player at R6 I instantly concede because I know how valuable this win is for them.
I do this too. Especially near the end of the month.
I often do something different for the community. Whenever I am at about Rank 5 and get matched with a player at R6 I instantly concede because I know how valuable this win is for them.
I do this too! but only if im Rank 5 with Zero or 1 Star :)
1) If I get roped first, almost always on Turn 1 - that tends to get people to knock it off.
2) If I'm playing in Casual and come up against someone playing Tier 1 netdecks to gold farm those of us playing memes (as just happened with 6 Secret Highlander Paladins in a row this morning). As soon as I see what you are I rope every. single. turn. You want that easy win? Sure, but I'm going to suck up as much of your time as I possibly can. The more time you're stuck with me, the less time you can bother other people and I can just as easily read the news while I wait for my timer to burn down each turn.
Fundamentally, my philosophy is the same as that of 2nd century Chinese warrior-sage Zhuge Liang: "If you don't give a damn, we don't give a fuck (Hey!) Don't start no shit, it won't be no shit!" Truly a wise, wise man.
Might just be me, but wasting other people’s time because they’re playing a deck you don’t like doesn’t seem heroic or considerate. It’s just being a dick
Being a gold farmer in Casual is also being a dick. Give shitty, get shitty.
No it isn’t. Playing Casual doesn’t mean you have the right to punish the opponent for playing a deck that is unfun to you.
1) If I get roped first, almost always on Turn 1 - that tends to get people to knock it off.
2) If I'm playing in Casual and come up against someone playing Tier 1 netdecks to gold farm those of us playing memes (as just happened with 6 Secret Highlander Paladins in a row this morning). As soon as I see what you are I rope every. single. turn. You want that easy win? Sure, but I'm going to suck up as much of your time as I possibly can. The more time you're stuck with me, the less time you can bother other people and I can just as easily read the news while I wait for my timer to burn down each turn.
Fundamentally, my philosophy is the same as that of 2nd century Chinese warrior-sage Zhuge Liang: "If you don't give a damn, we don't give a fuck (Hey!) Don't start no shit, it won't be no shit!" Truly a wise, wise man.
Might just be me, but wasting other people’s time because they’re playing a deck you don’t like doesn’t seem heroic or considerate. It’s just being a dick
Being a gold farmer in Casual is also being a dick. Give shitty, get shitty.
Today I made Hearthstone a better place... How? Did you?
The thing is, they are not playing a tier one deck simply to annoy you, they are doing it for a reason. You are roping them because they are annoying you and you want to annoy them back, this does not seem like a very mature thing, and it doesn't do anything good for anyone. Maybe they are being selfish by farming gold on casual, but at least someone is gaining something from this, whereas you are just being annoying for the sake of being annoying. You are right that it is within your power to rope them if you want to, but just because you have the freedom to do something doesn't justify doing it.
You just admitted that roping doesn't solve any problem, all you have said to justify roping them is that you think it is right/fair. It is not right to ruin someones day just because they ruined yours, and maybe it is 'fair' to hit someone back when they hit you, but it isn't nice, and it doesn't do anything good for anyone.
Eric Dodds, Jason Chayes, and Dustin Browder Left Blizzard
They obviously kept this hushed up as to not draw attention to the fact there may be an internal issue at hand.
Also mighty suspicious this was announced the week of Blizzcon.
Eric Dodds, Jason Chayes, and Dustin Browder Left Blizzard
This is what happened. I believe that the cancelled Ares project had been reported on before, but Eric, Jason and Dustin leaving wasn't known. Eric and Jason haven't been involved in Hearthstone for a while, but given they were incredibly influential on its development, it felt appropriate to note them leaving the company.
Eric Dodds, Jason Chayes, and Dustin Browder Left Blizzard
Guys, the reason this is reported now is because even though this happened in May, this is first time we've had any hearing about it. If you read the Kotaku article, you'd see that it was published two days ago.
Eric Dodds, Jason Chayes, and Dustin Browder Left Blizzard
The news didn't drop until yesterday afternoon. None of the three spoke publicly about it.
Eric Dodds, Jason Chayes, and Dustin Browder Left Blizzard
Blizzard: ‘everything is fine’
Eric Dodds, Jason Chayes, and Dustin Browder Left Blizzard
Maybe it just came out now that they left??? I didn't even notice the date, I just went straight to the section talking about who these guys are.
Eric Dodds, Jason Chayes, and Dustin Browder Left Blizzard
Exactly my thoughts
Eric Dodds, Jason Chayes, and Dustin Browder Left Blizzard
I'm a little confused... if this happened in May, why is the article being written now? Did something change or some new development occur?
I'm not being snarky or anything (I didn't realize they left at all, which is maybe the point of the post), I am just trying to understand...
Hearthstone Update Coming to Address Mobile Crashes
Yep, that was the implication
Today I made Hearthstone a better place... How? Did you?
I really don't get how people are misunderstanding me on this point.
YES, you ABSOLUTELY have the ability to play what/how you want. I am not saying you should be drug out into the street and beaten for doing this, or spawn camping in a FPS, or cheesing out a win in some fighting game. !!!BUT!!! so do I. And when "how you want to play" and "how I want to play" are in direct opposition to one another, the argument that "well you should let people be dicks or concede and give them a free win" sorry doesn't hold water with me.
You are 100% correct that roping doesn't solve any problem, but since Blizzard has shown absolutely 0 interest in addressing this I'm going to do what I think is right/fair. To take your exact argument: if you don't like me roping you for playing Tier 1 in Casual, you're free to concede to me and move on to someone else.
Today I made Hearthstone a better place... How? Did you?
Okay, I get your point. Well, the Casual is still casual, everybody plays what they want. I think you got unlucky with your Highlander Pala streak, but if that deck bothers you that much, you could just concede to Paladin every time and just move on, saving your nerves. Eventually you will get lower tier decks to play against. Or you could invite some friends and play against them with your own rules. If you want, you could add me as well, I would enjoy an occasional friendly.
I can talk from my perspective, I also sometimes enter Casual (in Wild usually) with some strong deck to pass quest only, but the number of times I get in with a thrash quest deck and concede is far bigger. I usually play with friends when I want to meme.
Today I made Hearthstone a better place... How? Did you?
Just because someone is annoying you doesn't give you the right to annoy them back. Two wrongs don't make a right. Revenge doesn't make people happy. Love your enemies. How is it that half the people on this thread don't get that?
Also, playing tier one decks on casual isn't a crime. Maybe you haven't considered this, but some people enjoy playing tier one decks not because they are super competitive and only care about winning, but because they think the deck is fun to play. People are allowed to play whatever they want in whatever way they want. And if that bothers you so much, then you can either suck it up and just play against them, or, if you really don't want to fight against a deck simply because its good, then you can concede and move on to the next match. It is not for you to decide what your opponent is allowed to have fun playing, and roping them doesn't help solve the problem.
Today I made Hearthstone a better place... How? Did you?
While some of those are fair, quite simply I can't read someone's mind to ascertain their intentions. So by the time I've faced 6 Highlander Secret Paladins IN A ROW (as happened to me on Monday) any chance that I might assume good intentions has long since left me since the statistical likelihood that NONE of them are goldfarmers is right about 0.00001%
I would however return to my general argument: people need to remember that there is someone else on the other side of that game board also trying to have fun. You want to "practice" with a tier 1 deck - fine, hit a rank floor on the ladder and practice there. Or just, you know, remember that it's just a game and if you don't make X rank this month because you lost a few games on the ladder the world isn't going to fall apart.
Today I made Hearthstone a better place... How? Did you?
Not everybody is a gold farmer. Maybe they are practicing before they jump into ladder, need a fast win for a quest because they don't have time, or don't care about ladder and find that deck fun to play like you find your meme deck fun. And besides, testing meme decks against meta decks should also be part of deckbuilding, then you can tweak it and maybe come up with something new that can actually compete.
Today I made Hearthstone a better place... How? Did you?
That's some fairly contradictory logic their friendo.
If YOU have the right to be a dick and play tier 1 decks to goldfarm those of us trying to meme it up (which you do - the game obviously doesn't stop you), then I have the right to ALSO be a dick and rope you for it (which I do - the game obviously doesn't stop me).
Fundamentally it's not about "unfun" - I personally don't find hyper aggro decks "fun" to play against, but I would NOT rope you for playing aggro Warrior or Zoolock since they're lower tier 2/upper tier 3 decks - the exact kind of deck CASUAL should be for. If you want to play Tier 1 decks, more power to you but stop being a little bitch and go play them on the ladder where they belong rather than wasting my time trying to farm gold off me and my garbage-tier meme decks.
I get it - you like to gold farm and want to self-justify why you're not as asshole. Go off then my dude, but recognize that other people disagree with you, and since the game only gives me one way to communicate that I think what you're doing hurts the overall game state (roping), you can bet I'm going to continue to do it.
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Completely Agree to this Sinti
Today I made Hearthstone a better place... How? Did you?
I do this too. Especially near the end of the month.
Today I made Hearthstone a better place... How? Did you?
I do this too! but only if im Rank 5 with Zero or 1 Star :)
Today I made Hearthstone a better place... How? Did you?
No it isn’t. Playing Casual doesn’t mean you have the right to punish the opponent for playing a deck that is unfun to you.
Today I made Hearthstone a better place... How? Did you?
"I made the world a better place."
Did you though?
Today I made Hearthstone a better place... How? Did you?
Being a gold farmer in Casual is also being a dick. Give shitty, get shitty.
Group Therapy! Need to blow off some steam? Mega salty? Here's the place!
I think current meta should be called "mana-cheat" meta. The person who gets its first mana cheat out without dying first wins.
Quest Trading - Play A Friend!
Battletag: Calus#2543
Region: EU
Trade Only: Yes, you go first.
Done
Kyriss
Why is there no info on this boss? Even in the guides he is not mentioned as boss 7 in the 4th wing...