Ok, so it's me again. Since I don't want to throw shit at other people without having actual proofs of what I'm saying, I decided to send this guy a friend request and see his reaction.
What you find below is the actual chat, which ends after he unfriended me (I wonder why): please not that I didn't edit out any message and that I did not insult him in any way.
I actually wasn't able to upload in pictures on this post (It's strange: sometimes it works, but sometimes it doesn't: can anyone help me with that?), but if you click on the link you'll find two screenshots from Battle.net.
This user's been farming 80 g quests (or he's been accused to do so) for a while: I remember seeing complaints about his behavior even months ago (despite him having another site nickname before, but I clearly remember the battletag).
He keeps posting trade requests with a few hours between them, which leads to three conclusions:
1) He keeps finding 80 g quests in his quest log: he's very lucky! Btw I find them with a one-in three-weeks rate...
2) He really struggles finding friends to trade with (again, highly probable since it usually doesn't take more than a day to get rid of your quest)
3) The most realistic one, based on users' experience, he's a pesky scammer.
I've been trading quests for a while now, and from my personal experience I've met so many players that, after I accept their friend request, invite me to a friendly match without even making sure if I have a quest or not. In certain cases it's really easy to scam people (especially young or unexperienced ones), so people like him have easy life in such environment.
Like other users said, don't report the single post but the whole situation to an admin,
The deck looks awesome! I've been looking for some Mage Deck Shenanigans and i think this is it!
I will have to replace Hex Lord Malacrass and Luna's Pocket Galaxy because i do not have those (disenchanted Galaxy after the Nerf) and like you said, they aren't core cards!
Im also not sure about [Hearthstone Card (Brightwind) Not Found] or the replacement Messenger Raven - maybe a Sandbinder so you could find Zephrys or Siamat more consistantly ?
I will defenitely try this and maybe mess around with some changes!
Definitely a good deck, I have been playing it for a while now and the Control Warrior matchup is surprisingly not that oppressive. Siamat usually wins the games on his own, so thats a good card to have. Highlander Warrior is able to consistently build up tempo and clear threats, it mostly dominates the midgame and you will just steamroll your opponents if you can curve decently with Zephrys as a potentialfinisher.
For some changes, my list runs Akali, the Rhino in it and he has saved me multiple times by letting me copy buffed Rush minions. I cut War Axe, Sul’thraze and Raging Worgen because i felt they were just not good enough, replaced them with Grom, Bone Wraith(tentative) and Militia Commander.
Like others may have said, Octosari is carrying the deck on its back, I would not reccomend playing the deck without him!
So Octosari is needed ... i would love to try Highlander Control Warrior so maybe i will craft him !
It's pretty common for the ranked ladder to be stratified into several mini-metas, with decks popping up a lot more or less frequently at different ranks. For example, people tend not to play nearly as many serious control decks at lower ranks, because playing fast games will result in a faster climb, even if it costs you some wins here and there.
If you're climbing and you suddenly hit a series of losses, sometimes it's worth swapping your deck for something more suited for what the opposition is bringing. That zoolock isn't nearly as good if you keep facing control warriors, after all. Other times if you hit a plateau it's because you're being paired with players that match your level of skill, which means you need to improve your play to progress.
I have enjoyed season 2 a LOT more than season 1. There is still a fair few warrior mirrors that go on a bit, but they are no longer the worst match up to watch. That belongs to combo priest mirrors!
On the other hand, it could be that aggro warrior's top build doesn't differ much from lesser builds and that it has a lot of great alternatives for its main 30 cards.
I think that's a fair argument to make for the control highlander warrior deck, where you do have a wealth of redundancy, not to mention the option to include duplicates of EG Town Crier or Warpath because the game is expected to go long. You barely have to make any changes to turn a normal control warrior into a highlander control warrior.
In the aggro deck however, you're swapping out Frothing Berserkers and Bloodsworn Mercenaries for cards that are strictly inferior. If that one Zephyris is worth replacing half your deck with worse cards -and I'm not discounting the possibility- then I'd say Zephyris is probably going to see a nerf soon. If you compare it to Kazakus it's hard to come up with scenarios where you'd rather have a potion than the "perfect" card from basic/classic, and of course Zephyris can't brick like kazakus can.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the card get nerfed to 3-4 mana, where it'd still be game-defining.
Definitely a good deck, I have been playing it for a while now and the Control Warrior matchup is surprisingly not that oppressive. Siamat usually wins the games on his own, so thats a good card to have. Highlander Warrior is able to consistently build up tempo and clear threats, it mostly dominates the midgame and you will just steamroll your opponents if you can curve decently with Zephrys as a potentialfinisher.
For some changes, my list runs Akali, the Rhino in it and he has saved me multiple times by letting me copy buffed Rush minions. I cut War Axe, Sul’thraze and Raging Worgen because i felt they were just not good enough, replaced them with Grom, Bone Wraith(tentative) and Militia Commander.
Like others may have said, Octosari is carrying the deck on its back, I would not reccomend playing the deck without him!
When I saw the thread title I assumed this was about a control highlander deck. I haven't played this version of aggro warrior, but intuitively it seems like you're sacrificing a lot of consistency for potential high-rolls, which sounds like a bad deal for an aggro deck. My instinct is that this deck is a fad that'll gradually get replaced by the non-highlander version. If it isn't, that means that Zephyris is stronger than consistency in an aggro deck, which is a terrifying commentary on that card's power.
Yeah the idea seems a little counter intuitive but its matchup spread does not lie. ViciousSyndicate are also grouping them together so they seem to perform very similarly.
Which is indeed rather scary because that implies Zephrys can then accomodate for 50% of an aggro deck's strongest cards.
On the other hand, it could be that aggro warrior's top build doesn't differ much from lesser builds and that it has a lot of great alternatives for its main 30 cards.
I've played that deck last season and you can reach rank 5 easily.
Your high counters Will be quest shaman, and maybe control warrior, i has a poor win rate against them.
The real MVP of the deck is Octosari, that refill+body wrecks the games.
In addition, Its really frustrating for your oponents when they sees Zephrys and get fireballed or pyroblasted, prepare your ears to listen tons of emotes.
Interesting. How did the control warrior matches go? Did you feel as hopeless as I usually do when playing aggro rogue/warrior where it seems like you will never be able to get enough damage in?
And what is your winrate against the quest shamans? As I recall it shouldn't be an unfavored matchup. Did your opponent have good starts whereas you did not or was that pretty even?
When I saw the thread title I assumed this was about a control highlander deck. I haven't played this version of aggro warrior, but intuitively it seems like you're sacrificing a lot of consistency for potential high-rolls, which sounds like a bad deal for an aggro deck. My instinct is that this deck is a fad that'll gradually get replaced by the non-highlander version. If it isn't, that means that Zephyris is stronger than consistency in an aggro deck, which is a terrifying commentary on that card's power.
I don't tend to post in forums much, so I'm not very familiar with the etiquette of these kinda sites. I realise my post isn't a great way to address the issue, but figured it was better than doing nothing. I also thought that reporting the post might have led to wider action than simply deleting it, but I guess not.
Haven't a clue what Discord is, but I'll gladly take your advice and pm a mod today.
I've played that deck last season and you can reach rank 5 easily.
Your high counters Will be quest shaman, and maybe control warrior, i has a poor win rate against them.
The real MVP of the deck is Octosari, that refill+body wrecks the games.
In addition, Its really frustrating for your oponents when they sees Zephrys and get fireballed or pyroblasted, prepare your ears to listen tons of emotes.
So I glanced over hsreplay's meta section the other day and noticed that highlander warrior had taken the #1 spot. Kind of outta nowhere.
ViciousSyndicate have been talking about the deck for a while now but I guess it's extremely competitive.
Key advantages it has over aggro warrior is that it's favored against aggro warrior and its matchup against control warrior isn't as crippling (still unfavored but nowhere near as bad as aggro warrior's). I am aware that highlander warrior has mostly been experimented with at higher ranks, so its winrate and matchups might be a little inflated compared to the other decks.
Regardless, I've gotten bored of aggro warrior after playing it for two months. So I'm looking to try this deck out this weekend.
Have any of you guys played with/against highlander warrior? And if so, what are your experiences? Is it as strong as it seems?
For reference, this is the deck I'm talking about: https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/decks/highlander-aggro-warrior/
80g Quest Trading Fraudster: Vegetaz (HaVoC#2426)
Ok, so it's me again. Since I don't want to throw shit at other people without having actual proofs of what I'm saying, I decided to send this guy a friend request and see his reaction.
What you find below is the actual chat, which ends after he unfriended me (I wonder why): please not that I didn't edit out any message and that I did not insult him in any way.
https://imgur.com/a/OgB6wSy
I actually wasn't able to upload in pictures on this post (It's strange: sometimes it works, but sometimes it doesn't: can anyone help me with that?), but if you click on the link you'll find two screenshots from Battle.net.
Could Hearthstone be Looking to Reduce the Cost of the Classic Set?
This will be a huge boost for new players!
Also as a wild player I would appriciate to reduce cafting cost of wild cards to half
80g Quest Trading Fraudster: Vegetaz (HaVoC#2426)
This user's been farming 80 g quests (or he's been accused to do so) for a while: I remember seeing complaints about his behavior even months ago (despite him having another site nickname before, but I clearly remember the battletag).
He keeps posting trade requests with a few hours between them, which leads to three conclusions:
1) He keeps finding 80 g quests in his quest log: he's very lucky! Btw I find them with a one-in three-weeks rate...
2) He really struggles finding friends to trade with (again, highly probable since it usually doesn't take more than a day to get rid of your quest)
3) The most realistic one, based on users' experience, he's a pesky scammer.
I've been trading quests for a while now, and from my personal experience I've met so many players that, after I accept their friend request, invite me to a friendly match without even making sure if I have a quest or not. In certain cases it's really easy to scam people (especially young or unexperienced ones), so people like him have easy life in such environment.
Like other users said, don't report the single post but the whole situation to an admin,
Honest Hearthstone Cards (Game)
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Reno Dragon Mage - Rank 5 (Anti Quest/Aggro)
The deck looks awesome! I've been looking for some Mage Deck Shenanigans and i think this is it!
I will have to replace Hex Lord Malacrass and Luna's Pocket Galaxy because i do not have those (disenchanted Galaxy after the Nerf) and like you said, they aren't core cards!
Im also not sure about [Hearthstone Card (Brightwind) Not Found] or the replacement Messenger Raven - maybe a Sandbinder so you could find Zephrys or Siamat more consistantly ?
I will defenitely try this and maybe mess around with some changes!
Grandmasters Season 2 Continues With Week 7!
Five out of the eight players in the Americas will have Octosari in one of their decks. No player outside the Americas brought that card.
Highlander warrior
So Octosari is needed ... i would love to try Highlander Control Warrior so maybe i will craft him !
Deck lists according to rank
It's pretty common for the ranked ladder to be stratified into several mini-metas, with decks popping up a lot more or less frequently at different ranks. For example, people tend not to play nearly as many serious control decks at lower ranks, because playing fast games will result in a faster climb, even if it costs you some wins here and there.
If you're climbing and you suddenly hit a series of losses, sometimes it's worth swapping your deck for something more suited for what the opposition is bringing. That zoolock isn't nearly as good if you keep facing control warriors, after all. Other times if you hit a plateau it's because you're being paired with players that match your level of skill, which means you need to improve your play to progress.
80g Quest Trading Fraudster: Vegetaz (HaVoC#2426)
Yes , you defenitely should report this to a Mod via PM ! and yes, they should add a "blacklist" at the start of the 80G Trading Thread !
I personaly only trade the quest with people i know personaly or "online" friends i know a long time via the game :)
Grandmasters Season 2 Continues With Week 7!
I have enjoyed season 2 a LOT more than season 1. There is still a fair few warrior mirrors that go on a bit, but they are no longer the worst match up to watch. That belongs to combo priest mirrors!
Highlander warrior
I think that's a fair argument to make for the control highlander warrior deck, where you do have a wealth of redundancy, not to mention the option to include duplicates of EG Town Crier or Warpath because the game is expected to go long. You barely have to make any changes to turn a normal control warrior into a highlander control warrior.
In the aggro deck however, you're swapping out Frothing Berserkers and Bloodsworn Mercenaries for cards that are strictly inferior. If that one Zephyris is worth replacing half your deck with worse cards -and I'm not discounting the possibility- then I'd say Zephyris is probably going to see a nerf soon. If you compare it to Kazakus it's hard to come up with scenarios where you'd rather have a potion than the "perfect" card from basic/classic, and of course Zephyris can't brick like kazakus can.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the card get nerfed to 3-4 mana, where it'd still be game-defining.
Highlander warrior
Definitely a good deck, I have been playing it for a while now and the Control Warrior matchup is surprisingly not that oppressive. Siamat usually wins the games on his own, so thats a good card to have. Highlander Warrior is able to consistently build up tempo and clear threats, it mostly dominates the midgame and you will just steamroll your opponents if you can curve decently with Zephrys as a potentialfinisher.
For some changes, my list runs Akali, the Rhino in it and he has saved me multiple times by letting me copy buffed Rush minions. I cut War Axe, Sul’thraze and Raging Worgen because i felt they were just not good enough, replaced them with Grom, Bone Wraith(tentative) and Militia Commander.
Like others may have said, Octosari is carrying the deck on its back, I would not reccomend playing the deck without him!
Highlander warrior
Yeah the idea seems a little counter intuitive but its matchup spread does not lie. ViciousSyndicate are also grouping them together so they seem to perform very similarly.
Which is indeed rather scary because that implies Zephrys can then accomodate for 50% of an aggro deck's strongest cards.
On the other hand, it could be that aggro warrior's top build doesn't differ much from lesser builds and that it has a lot of great alternatives for its main 30 cards.
Highlander warrior
Interesting. How did the control warrior matches go? Did you feel as hopeless as I usually do when playing aggro rogue/warrior where it seems like you will never be able to get enough damage in?
And what is your winrate against the quest shamans? As I recall it shouldn't be an unfavored matchup. Did your opponent have good starts whereas you did not or was that pretty even?
Six-Shooter
Opposing Zephyr's can discover one
Did the same in paladin, I think it's better since you can't mill yourself with time outs.
Highlander warrior
When I saw the thread title I assumed this was about a control highlander deck. I haven't played this version of aggro warrior, but intuitively it seems like you're sacrificing a lot of consistency for potential high-rolls, which sounds like a bad deal for an aggro deck. My instinct is that this deck is a fad that'll gradually get replaced by the non-highlander version. If it isn't, that means that Zephyris is stronger than consistency in an aggro deck, which is a terrifying commentary on that card's power.
80g Quest Trading Fraudster: Vegetaz (HaVoC#2426)
Thanks for the suggestions.
I don't tend to post in forums much, so I'm not very familiar with the etiquette of these kinda sites. I realise my post isn't a great way to address the issue, but figured it was better than doing nothing. I also thought that reporting the post might have led to wider action than simply deleting it, but I guess not.
Haven't a clue what Discord is, but I'll gladly take your advice and pm a mod today.
Meta Breaker - Menacing Murlocs
Thank you, and thanks for supplying the decklists in the Meta Report for me to steal >:
Highlander warrior
I've played that deck last season and you can reach rank 5 easily.
Your high counters Will be quest shaman, and maybe control warrior, i has a poor win rate against them.
The real MVP of the deck is Octosari, that refill+body wrecks the games.
In addition, Its really frustrating for your oponents when they sees Zephrys and get fireballed or pyroblasted, prepare your ears to listen tons of emotes.
Edit: I didn't have Darius Crowley and i played Grommash Hellscream instead.
Meta Breaker - Menacing Murlocs
Well written and helped me see thing a lot clearer. Thanks for this!!
Dave Kosak on Tombs of Terror Randomness, Bartender Bob, Zephrys’s Lamp Easter Egg
I got a Mage one, similar to what Khadgar was playing (last Dalaran Heist boss) but much more broken :D
Don't Bring a Six-Shooter to a Bomb Fight
love the title and the deck itself :D
it is super fun and super effective
i replaced Upgrade! with Rocket Boots out of personal preference
Highlander warrior
So I glanced over hsreplay's meta section the other day and noticed that highlander warrior had taken the #1 spot. Kind of outta nowhere.
ViciousSyndicate have been talking about the deck for a while now but I guess it's extremely competitive.
Key advantages it has over aggro warrior is that it's favored against aggro warrior and its matchup against control warrior isn't as crippling (still unfavored but nowhere near as bad as aggro warrior's). I am aware that highlander warrior has mostly been experimented with at higher ranks, so its winrate and matchups might be a little inflated compared to the other decks.
Regardless, I've gotten bored of aggro warrior after playing it for two months. So I'm looking to try this deck out this weekend.
Have any of you guys played with/against highlander warrior? And if so, what are your experiences? Is it as strong as it seems?
For reference, this is the deck I'm talking about: https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/decks/highlander-aggro-warrior/
80g Quest Trading Fraudster: Vegetaz (HaVoC#2426)
Have you reported this to the site's admins (either through PM or on Discord)?
I don't feel like creating a thread is the correct way to tackle this issue.
Meta Breaker - Menacing Murlocs
Awesome article, FearGralex! I love this series.