Just initial thoughts and analysis also will add a star rating in the current meta/card pool
the stars are like this: (like Trumps rating)
5 - meta defining defines a tier 1 deck
4 - is in a tier 1 deck or defines a tier 2 deck
3 - is in a tier 2 deck or tech in tier 1 or defines a tier 3 deck
2- tried a bit then dropped
1- meme/awful.
Neutral:
N'Zoth, the Corruptor- 5 - the meta is not that fast that this card won't see play in a control list, goes very well with sylvanas and there's no way sylvanas doesn't see play.
[Hearthstone Card (sylvannas windrunner) Not Found] -5- this card is insane we all know that it goes very well in hunter currently Nine Lives is a 3 mana mind control with it. apart from that any other slow midrange/control deck would play her.
Ragnaros the Firelord -5- this card was HOF before elementals were a thing in standard currently there is little synergy apart from mage and shaman with only a few cards that don't see play, but in mage it's really good with [Hearthstone Card (elemental invocation) Not Found], the card can also just be slapped into a variety of decks anyway.
The Curator -3- dragons are kinda dead in standard, beasts are everywhere and there is not really a generalist murloc you would want to draw, seems situational maybe in a sort of a lackey shaman with amalgam just to draw 3..?
Emperor Thaurissan -5- key card in any combo deck and enables them, there's no way no new combo deck we didn't think about shows up.
Kun the Forgotten King -2- maybe tried in quest druid the card is good but currently doesn't do any crazy combo without Aviana and a 0 mana 7/7 that is a dead card until turn 10 is kind of meh.
Hunter:
Lock and Load -2- spell heavy hunters value engine, but are random hunter cards for 2 mana good enough.. nah I don't think so I used this card in solo adventures from rime to time wasn't impressed by it too much (by that I mean.. best case scenario it's not that great.)
Call of the Wild -4- highlander hunter is very strong and you slot it in for a more impactful zuljin it's a really good card and game closer, think it might be run in the deck cause of mainly zuljin and it's a good card just that when it got nerfed the meta was really fast and then death knights came around, so this card got quite left behind also go outclassed by To My Side! in spell hunter.
Mage:
Babbling Book- 3 - was a decent card but nothing really there are some really bad mage cards it's a 1/1+ that bad classic card, was briefly played in the past.
Flamewaker -5- now THIS is something mage needed, now more than ever with so many cheap spells/spell generation this card is as insane as ever tempo mage is back!
Paladin:
Mysterious Challenger -3- who am I? none of your business. this + the best paladin secret in the game makes secret paladin which got a ton of support in ROS a real contender this is kind of the late game the secret paladin needs.. it currently runs out of gas and that's it.. but MC makes the deck shine again that being said I think secret paladin is either a tier 3 or 2 deck cause of the power creep in the game
Avenge -4- this is the best paladin secret in the game it's worth including even in murloc decks I think so even if "Secret paladin" is not a thing this card might see play in the more aggressive paladin decks. Edit: facepalm on the murloc paladin -> Prismatic Lens as @PopeNeia pointed out.
Shaman:
Evolve -5- slotted into quest shaman instead of mutate or in addition to mutate also good in aggro shaman.
Thing from Below-4- not as good as when it was in standard cause of no totem golem, 2 mana flametongue totem, and no taskarr totemic, but it's still a really good card and great evolve target.
[Hearthstone Card (swashburglar-) Not Found]?- dunno how to evaluate thief rogue + 3 more thief cards don't think it will make the class suddenly great I am not sure how rogue does atm, but I didn't see them a lot lately. it does make the turn 2 underbelly more consistent.
Priest:
Lightbomb-5- res priest might make a return and this card just makes the deck much much better it's aoe they need to work currently they need either a 2 of in mass hysteria or to wait until turn 9.. this card just makes priest good again think res prist will be tier 1 with sylvanas being back.
Vol'jin-2- the card is decent, but I think it doesn't fit well into the current decks.
Warlock:
Imp Gang Boss -4- zoo is tier 2 and one really good 3 drop won't change it.
Definitely a good deck, I have been playing it for a while now and the Control Warrior matchup is surprisingly not that oppressive. Siamat usually wins the games on his own, so thats a good card to have. Highlander Warrior is able to consistently build up tempo and clear threats, it mostly dominates the midgame and you will just steamroll your opponents if you can curve decently with Zephrys as a potentialfinisher.
For some changes, my list runs Akali, the Rhino in it and he has saved me multiple times by letting me copy buffed Rush minions. I cut War Axe, Sul’thraze and Raging Worgen because i felt they were just not good enough, replaced them with Grom, Bone Wraith(tentative) and Militia Commander.
Like others may have said, Octosari is carrying the deck on its back, I would not reccomend playing the deck without him!
I hadn't even considered Akali. Man, warrior has a lot of good cards, huh?
Do you usually play Zephrys on curve, unless you hit the late game, or do you hold him regardless to potentially burst down your opponent?
I interpret that list as Reddit does, so no Classic and Basic. Also Blizz must have edited that part of the blog after we took the quote, I don't think we ever edit the blog texts in any way.
Kind of bummed that this wasn’t an actual announcement but more of a “Hey were doing the annual event this year”.
Kind of sick of these “announcements”.
I mean hell at least tell us timelines of stuff in the pipes that aren’t temporary events/bundles/what ever thing that doesn’t have an impact on HS as a whole.
edit: y’all downvoting me must be content with the standard 3 expansions a year, repetitive dungeon run re-skins, and no actual new game modes/formats
The official page says ALL these set will be in the upcoming arena rotation :
https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/blog/23156374
Curse of Naxxramas Goblins vs. Gnomes Blackrock Mountain The Grand Tournament League of Explorers Whispers of the Old Gods One Night in Karazhan Mean Streets of Gadgetzan Journey to Un'Goro Knights of the Frozen Throne Kobolds & Catacombs
I assume that it will include Classic & Basic as well? Yes? But no Standard expansions.
[Edit: Over in the Arena subreddit they seem to think it will be just the above sets and NO basic and classic cards. Interesting if it's true.]
The new arena rotation surely means "Classic" instead of "Standard" right?
The warrior cards seem far below the power of what everyone else is getting. Bloodhoof Brave is a nice taunt but not really what control warrior is looking for. Cornered Sentry or Alley Armorsmith are more in line for them. Where's Death's Bite? Great for quest warrior. Perfect for Plague of Wrath. Seems like an excellent time to chomp some death.
A card I would have liked to see back would be Sparring Partner. Very interesting card that was mostly overlooked in its day. The fact that it targets any minion has really interesting applications for tempo warrior and control alike. Applications that were mostly lost on me back in 2015.
These cards seem far from the most powerful or most popular warrior cards. It shows blizz is terrified of giving warrior anything more right now. Which should scare us too.
Playoffs would have so many scenarios that I would've gone crazy trying to list them. Here are the somewhat-correct relegation scenarios though:
Americas:
StrifeCro needs to win both of his matches in order to have a chance of not getting eliminated. In addition, either ETC or Firebat needs to lose both of their matches to get eliminated instead. (StrifeCro will play against Firebat this weekend, high stakes).
Rase will at least need to beat Zalae and even that might not be enough (I'm too lazy to do that math). Winning both matches while Zalae loses both of his would be enough.
APAC:
BloodTrail was already destined for relegation even before today's matches.
Pathra needs to win both of her matches while blitzchung loses both of his. I do not understand the tiebreaker rules well enough to say for sure but she might already be mathematically relegated.
Europe:
Viper needs wins. One would get him into a mathematical mess I do not want to think about, two would be close to saving him. Orange and Swidz are other players in danger. Viper is currently losing to Orange as I write this.
The European winner of Season 1, Feno, needs to win at least one match, possibly both (as I said, not sure about tiebreaker rules). Bozzzton needs one win to guarantee safety while Seiko needs to either match Feno's record or he might even afford to lose one more depending how tiebreakers work. Feno will meet Bozzzton on Sunday.
I've featured just about every Tier 1 and Tier 2 archetype in the current metagame, fortunately changes are on the way to mix up the metagame for October. You're not wrong that the decks featured have some issues with them, but a deck with even a slightly positive winrate is worth a shot in my opinion. I think J_Alexander found a way to hit top 100 legend with Thief Rogue, so there is some merit to it. The deck is an extreme challenge to play though and I am still working through how to build the list for ladder.
Seeing as how the event starts on Tuesday, I'd expect a patch on Monday or Tuesday and hopefully, they'll be included. We'll get them rendered ASAP so we have awesome previews.
Ok, I understand now. Thanks a lot for your answers.
btw, Marin the Fox did find a place in some fun decks where you used Crazy alchemist to instantly kill the treasure :). But ye, no competitive play whatsoever as far as I recall.
Analysis on the 23 wild cards added
Just initial thoughts and analysis also will add a star rating in the current meta/card pool
the stars are like this: (like Trumps rating)
5 - meta defining defines a tier 1 deck
4 - is in a tier 1 deck or defines a tier 2 deck
3 - is in a tier 2 deck or tech in tier 1 or defines a tier 3 deck
2- tried a bit then dropped
1- meme/awful.
Neutral:
N'Zoth, the Corruptor- 5 - the meta is not that fast that this card won't see play in a control list, goes very well with sylvanas and there's no way sylvanas doesn't see play.
[Hearthstone Card (sylvannas windrunner) Not Found] -5- this card is insane we all know that it goes very well in hunter currently Nine Lives is a 3 mana mind control with it. apart from that any other slow midrange/control deck would play her.
Ragnaros the Firelord -5- this card was HOF before elementals were a thing in standard currently there is little synergy apart from mage and shaman with only a few cards that don't see play, but in mage it's really good with [Hearthstone Card (elemental invocation) Not Found], the card can also just be slapped into a variety of decks anyway.
The Curator -3- dragons are kinda dead in standard, beasts are everywhere and there is not really a generalist murloc you would want to draw, seems situational maybe in a sort of a lackey shaman with amalgam just to draw 3..?
Emperor Thaurissan -5- key card in any combo deck and enables them, there's no way no new combo deck we didn't think about shows up.
Druid:
Astral Communion -1- was bad, and is still bad.
Kun the Forgotten King -2- maybe tried in quest druid the card is good but currently doesn't do any crazy combo without Aviana and a 0 mana 7/7 that is a dead card until turn 10 is kind of meh.
Hunter:
Lock and Load -2- spell heavy hunters value engine, but are random hunter cards for 2 mana good enough.. nah I don't think so I used this card in solo adventures from rime to time wasn't impressed by it too much (by that I mean.. best case scenario it's not that great.)
Call of the Wild -4- highlander hunter is very strong and you slot it in for a more impactful zuljin it's a really good card and game closer, think it might be run in the deck cause of mainly zuljin and it's a good card just that when it got nerfed the meta was really fast and then death knights came around, so this card got quite left behind also go outclassed by To My Side! in spell hunter.
Mage:
Babbling Book- 3 - was a decent card but nothing really there are some really bad mage cards it's a 1/1+ that bad classic card, was briefly played in the past.
Flamewaker -5- now THIS is something mage needed, now more than ever with so many cheap spells/spell generation this card is as insane as ever tempo mage is back!
Paladin:
Mysterious Challenger -3- who am I? none of your business. this + the best paladin secret in the game makes secret paladin which got a ton of support in ROS a real contender this is kind of the late game the secret paladin needs.. it currently runs out of gas and that's it.. but MC makes the deck shine again that being said I think secret paladin is either a tier 3 or 2 deck cause of the power creep in the game
Avenge -4- this is the best paladin secret in the game it's worth including even in murloc decks I think so even if "Secret paladin" is not a thing this card might see play in the more aggressive paladin decks. Edit: facepalm on the murloc paladin -> Prismatic Lens as @PopeNeia pointed out.
Shaman:
Evolve -5- slotted into quest shaman instead of mutate or in addition to mutate also good in aggro shaman.
Thing from Below-4- not as good as when it was in standard cause of no totem golem, 2 mana flametongue totem, and no taskarr totemic, but it's still a really good card and great evolve target.
Rogue:
Shaku, the Collector-?-
[Hearthstone Card (swashburglar-) Not Found]?- dunno how to evaluate thief rogue + 3 more thief cards don't think it will make the class suddenly great I am not sure how rogue does atm, but I didn't see them a lot lately. it does make the turn 2 underbelly more consistent.
Priest:
Lightbomb-5- res priest might make a return and this card just makes the deck much much better it's aoe they need to work currently they need either a 2 of in mass hysteria or to wait until turn 9.. this card just makes priest good again think res prist will be tier 1 with sylvanas being back.
Vol'jin-2- the card is decent, but I think it doesn't fit well into the current decks.
Warlock:
Imp Gang Boss -4- zoo is tier 2 and one really good 3 drop won't change it.
Renounce Darkness-1- meme
Warrior:
Varian Wrynn-2- there are some big warrior cards in boomsday, I think such deck is too greedy though.
Bloodhoof Brave -2- card is good, but it's not constructed good.
Edit: forgot hunter lol
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Blizz kind of sending out a message when one of the cards warlocks are getting is the "stop being a warlock" card lol
Coulda done at least Malchezzar's Imp. There's actual discard support in the last few sets for crying out loud
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I think you missed that warlock (already the worst class standard) is getting an unplayable joke-meme card as one of its two.
Highlander warrior
I hadn't even considered Akali. Man, warrior has a lot of good cards, huh?
Do you usually play Zephrys on curve, unless you hit the late game, or do you hold him regardless to potentially burst down your opponent?
Hallow's End 2019 - Leaked Cards Confirmed, 3 New Brawls, Arena Rotation, Legendary Quests, Login Rewards
I interpret that list as Reddit does, so no Classic and Basic. Also Blizz must have edited that part of the blog after we took the quote, I don't think we ever edit the blog texts in any way.
Don't Bring a Six-Shooter to a Bomb Fight
Subbed out Moonfire for another cheap wild spell since the animation takes forever.
Pandaria
This is the only one I'm missing, friend introduced the game to me in May 2014 haha
RENOUNCE WARLOCK!(standard soonTM)
I wish we could keep the warlock HP for the memes
Hallow's End 2019 - Leaked Cards Confirmed, 3 New Brawls, Arena Rotation, Legendary Quests, Login Rewards
Kind of bummed that this wasn’t an actual announcement but more of a “Hey were doing the annual event this year”.
Kind of sick of these “announcements”.
I mean hell at least tell us timelines of stuff in the pipes that aren’t temporary events/bundles/what ever thing that doesn’t have an impact on HS as a whole.
edit: y’all downvoting me must be content with the standard 3 expansions a year, repetitive dungeon run re-skins, and no actual new game modes/formats
Hallow's End 2019 - Leaked Cards Confirmed, 3 New Brawls, Arena Rotation, Legendary Quests, Login Rewards
The official page says ALL these set will be in the upcoming arena rotation :
https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/blog/23156374
Curse of Naxxramas
Goblins vs. Gnomes
Blackrock Mountain
The Grand Tournament
League of Explorers
Whispers of the Old Gods
One Night in Karazhan
Mean Streets of Gadgetzan
Journey to Un'Goro
Knights of the Frozen Throne
Kobolds & Catacombs
I assume that it will include Classic & Basic as well? Yes? But no Standard expansions.
[Edit: Over in the Arena subreddit they seem to think it will be just the above sets and NO basic and classic cards. Interesting if it's true.]
Hallow's End 2019 - Leaked Cards Confirmed, 3 New Brawls, Arena Rotation, Legendary Quests, Login Rewards
Who am I? None of your business.
Hallow's End 2019 - Leaked Cards Confirmed, 3 New Brawls, Arena Rotation, Legendary Quests, Login Rewards
Hope I can use my golden swashburglars
Hallow's End 2019 - Leaked Cards Confirmed, 3 New Brawls, Arena Rotation, Legendary Quests, Login Rewards
The new arena rotation surely means "Classic" instead of "Standard" right?
The warrior cards seem far below the power of what everyone else is getting. Bloodhoof Brave is a nice taunt but not really what control warrior is looking for. Cornered Sentry or Alley Armorsmith are more in line for them. Where's Death's Bite? Great for quest warrior. Perfect for Plague of Wrath. Seems like an excellent time to chomp some death.
Shieldmaiden? Another popular and powerful card. Even Iron Juggernaut for the bomb memes?
A card I would have liked to see back would be Sparring Partner. Very interesting card that was mostly overlooked in its day. The fact that it targets any minion has really interesting applications for tempo warrior and control alike. Applications that were mostly lost on me back in 2015.
Varian Wrynn is and always will be a fun meme card, minus the fun half the time. I'll def tryout a Dimensional Ripper, Hakkar, the Soulflayer deck with him but I think we all know how that's gonna go.
These cards seem far from the most powerful or most popular warrior cards. It shows blizz is terrified of giving warrior anything more right now. Which should scare us too.
Grandmasters Season 2 Continues With Week 7!
Playoffs would have so many scenarios that I would've gone crazy trying to list them. Here are the somewhat-correct relegation scenarios though:
Americas:
APAC:
Europe:
Hallow's End 2019 - Leaked Cards Confirmed, 3 New Brawls, Arena Rotation, Legendary Quests, Login Rewards
These are just event bundles, expect exclusive skin for the preorder of the new xpac, id say.
Hallow's End 2019 - Leaked Cards Confirmed, 3 New Brawls, Arena Rotation, Legendary Quests, Login Rewards
They stated that they'll add these new portrait with the next major update, which should be the one this article is talking about.
I'm really excited to see them!!
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To summarize, this monthly event will reward you with:
I mean, not bad at all!
Rock, Paper, Scissors - Jambre's Token Shaman, a Swinging Warrior, and Rogue Robbery
I've featured just about every Tier 1 and Tier 2 archetype in the current metagame, fortunately changes are on the way to mix up the metagame for October. You're not wrong that the decks featured have some issues with them, but a deck with even a slightly positive winrate is worth a shot in my opinion. I think J_Alexander found a way to hit top 100 legend with Thief Rogue, so there is some merit to it. The deck is an extreme challenge to play though and I am still working through how to build the list for ladder.
Hallow's End 2019 - Leaked Cards Confirmed, 3 New Brawls, Arena Rotation, Legendary Quests, Login Rewards
Nope, guess that's going to be a surprise!
Seeing as how the event starts on Tuesday, I'd expect a patch on Monday or Tuesday and hopefully, they'll be included. We'll get them rendered ASAP so we have awesome previews.
Hallow's End 2019 - Leaked Cards Confirmed, 3 New Brawls, Arena Rotation, Legendary Quests, Login Rewards
They were originally leaked by someone who plays in Grandmasters. They received information on them before the general public.
Hallow's End 2019 - Leaked Cards Confirmed, 3 New Brawls, Arena Rotation, Legendary Quests, Login Rewards
Nothing about the new portraits?
Hallow's End 2019 - Leaked Cards Confirmed, 3 New Brawls, Arena Rotation, Legendary Quests, Login Rewards
Looks like its just going to be a random legendary and a bunch of packs. Super amazing price too, damn.
Hallow's End 2019 - Leaked Cards Confirmed, 3 New Brawls, Arena Rotation, Legendary Quests, Login Rewards
how did the new cards get leaked?
Hallow's End 2019 - Leaked Cards Confirmed, 3 New Brawls, Arena Rotation, Legendary Quests, Login Rewards
So no exclusive skin with either of these bundles then?
Golden Legendary from Blizzcon'19
Ok, I understand now. Thanks a lot for your answers.
btw, Marin the Fox did find a place in some fun decks where you used Crazy alchemist to instantly kill the treasure :). But ye, no competitive play whatsoever as far as I recall.