technically speaking Amani Berserker would have done more damage while Temple Berserker would have been more resilient in case of removal (+ the potential additional stickiness if Reborn wasn't popped)
just the fact that you had no way of utilizing Wasp's Rush means that this is, in fact, not the best possible opening.
The second wasp did take out a 3/3 ... and if you look again at the deck list, there is no Amani Berserker. About the removal part, yes, this opening was vulnerable to a 3 damage removal on exactly their turn 2, if they had been capable of a 3-damage removal at that point (which I'm pretty sure most rogues are not capable of ... though backstab into dagger would have done it).
well yeah, I was mostly talking about how running Amani Berserker would allow a better opening (not saying it's a better card by itself)
Some people had an issue before that the counter did not go up if there was some old unfinished arena run. Maybe you know you were on 50 wins, then you won 3, so in your head you should be 53. Next time you look at your wins,you are 50 again. Try to have a look on arena.
They also talked about this in some videos when Hearthstone first launched, remarking on how players of games often fiddle with something in the real world between turns. So they built this into the virtual card game, especially for when it's your opponents turn.
I find myself clicking more repetitively when I'm more nervous - at least it's not super visible to my opponent otherwise it would be a terrible 'tell'!
Have you ever get your a$$ kicked so hard that you wonder how the hell that person is the same rank as you?
and
I just made it into rank 11 by the hair of my chinny chin chin and the first opponent is a rank 10.....seriously...a whole rank ahead!
Maybe this experience of mine will make you feel a little bit better: two months ago I was grinding to get to Legend. Rank 2, 2 (or 3, I don't remember well) stars: I start the matchmaking and my opponent is rank 3000ish Legend. Feelsbadman
I wouldn't worry about it. Yeah, the quest is powerful, but it doesn't pidgeonhole druid to a single strategy nearly as much as most of the other quests. As we speak there are two variants with quite different win conditions being played at high level, the regular board flood version and a Malygos OTK variant. It's likely that quest decks will continue to be the most powerful druid decks for some time to come, but I expect the content of these decks to change quite a bit: the shell isn't nearly as rigid as you make it out to be.
Quest druid has some big holes in the gameplan and are extremely vulnerable to certain meta decks.
It's powerful, sure. That's a good thing. Token isn't bad either. Heal sort of sucks.
Although quest druid was briefly on top it quickly dropped as the meta and tech cards adjusted to it. There seems to be a very healthy constant meta shift week to week that suggests a more rock/paper/scissors sort of weekly shift as opposed to a dominating deck for the entire expansion. This indicates to me that the design since Brode left has actually been very well handled. No more 3-4 months of 1 deck dominating.
On to your point this actually means there are cracks for off-meta decks to do very well depending on your ability to judge what's popular right now. Quest druid has a huge early game tempo problem that can be exploited that's inherent with the quest design. There are very few cards that could be added that would make this go away. Sure, choose one cards are now forever boosted by this quest in terms of viability but I wouldn't worry so much about it being stifling to future design. If all you can see is quest druid when you are deck building then try exploring the druid decks on this site or sites like it. There are actually a lot of fairly viable decks not many people play. They aren't as optimized but in the right metas some are extremely powerful.
Also, the 'undiscovered deck' idea could hit at very random times. I remember out of no where when Kael/Tempo rogue just shot to tier 1 weeks after the expansion was out. Even this expansion has the dark horse of aggro warrior that's slowly becoming more popular and higher win rate. They aren't as flashy or as obvious to build as something like Quest druid and that's why it takes more time for the community to really optimize and learn about them.
Quest druid is by no means an OP deck, it can make powerful plays, but it loses too much to aggro, and when they complete their quest they don't automatically win.
But whether the quest is health for the class is another matter entirely. I agree with you that quest druid will probably remain the best standard (and wild) deck for druid for a while due to the flexibility of the card. But I don't think the deck will be powerful enough in the meta for it to be too much of a problem yet. It will only end up being a problem if we end up seeing too many druid archetypes being introduced and then ignored because of quest druid.
do you think a copy of The Soularium would work well in here? The mana curve seems pretty cheap, and it would be useful for finding Renounce Darkness. I'd probably cut a copy of Impbalming because it makes it harder to get a Renounce Darkness and there really isn't an upside for shuffling in 3 random class cards into a deck full of random class cards.
I feel like 15 secrets is too many. I don't think you have enough minions to justify things like Argent Protector and Dire Wolf Alpha.
A better build could possibly include less secrets, which would mean you wouldn't have to have so many cards that cheat out secrets (2 Mysterious Challenger, 2 Bellringer Sentry and a Subject 9) and then you would have room for more minions that can take advantage of the numerous secrets in the deck.
Have you ever get your a$$ kicked so hard that you wonder how the hell that person is the same rank as you?
and
I just made it into rank 11 by the hair of my chinny chin chin and the first opponent is a rank 10.....seriously...a whole rank ahead!
Maybe this experience of mine will make you feel a little bit better: two months ago I was grinding to get to Legend. Rank 2, 2 (or 3, I don't remember well) stars: I start the matchmaking and my opponent is rank 3000ish Legend. Feelsbadman
Sorry. I didn't mean to sound defensive there, and I apologize if I did.
I too apologize if my initial post sounded like a criticism. I just wanted to mention one of my favorite board interactions that happened to not be mentioned. I really do enjoy articles like this and hope that they continue.
You are saying that this list would be better as a different list, and then other person is telling you that that is a different list, and not the list you are looking at now. I don't see why you are upset.
Can aggro warrior have a better start than this?
well yeah, I was mostly talking about how running Amani Berserker would allow a better opening (not saying it's a better card by itself)
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October has Arrived! New Season, New Darkmoon Faire Card Back
Very fitting for Halloween!
Even better if it was darker.
Class wins resetting?
Some people had an issue before that the counter did not go up if there was some old unfinished arena run. Maybe you know you were on 50 wins, then you won 3, so in your head you should be 53. Next time you look at your wins,you are 50 again. Try to have a look on arena.
Hearthstone Hypothesis - Why do the Game Board Interactions Exist?
I know that I have problems with eyes, but where exactly is hypothesis?
Now you feel pain!
not a bad idea and i play around rank 10-5
Now you feel pain!
thats what i thought and some how it just keeps working
Hearthstone Hypothesis - Why do the Game Board Interactions Exist?
They also talked about this in some videos when Hearthstone first launched, remarking on how players of games often fiddle with something in the real world between turns. So they built this into the virtual card game, especially for when it's your opponents turn.
I find myself clicking more repetitively when I'm more nervous - at least it's not super visible to my opponent otherwise it would be a terrible 'tell'!
Group Therapy! Need to blow off some steam? Mega salty? Here's the place!
Whooooooa ok then I don't feel so bad
Hearthstone Hypothesis - Why do the Game Board Interactions Exist?
That's on a separate section but yes, there's an image of MTG:A as well. There's no full image of the Pandaria board.
Firebat's Beast Tempo Warrior
I'm thinking about trying this for the only simple fact that it has Octosari in it, and I have a golden Octosari.
Hearthstone Hypothesis - Why do the Game Board Interactions Exist?
Am I crazy or is the image for Pandaria an image of the MTG arena game board
Were the 23 Wild Cards Coming to Standard for an Event Leaked?
hope warrior gets something better i mean its not horrible but meh
Hearthstone Hypothesis - Why do the Game Board Interactions Exist?
The number 42 : "Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything"
Look it up, if you don't already know it, you'll be amaze :)
Standard Meta Report #7 - September 23, 2019 - September 29, 2019
The highlander version of the aggro warrior, with Octosari is kinda interesting, maybe better than the classic version you listed.
Is the Quest bad for Druid?
I wouldn't worry about it. Yeah, the quest is powerful, but it doesn't pidgeonhole druid to a single strategy nearly as much as most of the other quests. As we speak there are two variants with quite different win conditions being played at high level, the regular board flood version and a Malygos OTK variant. It's likely that quest decks will continue to be the most powerful druid decks for some time to come, but I expect the content of these decks to change quite a bit: the shell isn't nearly as rigid as you make it out to be.
Is the Quest bad for Druid?
Quest druid has some big holes in the gameplan and are extremely vulnerable to certain meta decks.
It's powerful, sure. That's a good thing. Token isn't bad either. Heal sort of sucks.
Although quest druid was briefly on top it quickly dropped as the meta and tech cards adjusted to it. There seems to be a very healthy constant meta shift week to week that suggests a more rock/paper/scissors sort of weekly shift as opposed to a dominating deck for the entire expansion. This indicates to me that the design since Brode left has actually been very well handled. No more 3-4 months of 1 deck dominating.
On to your point this actually means there are cracks for off-meta decks to do very well depending on your ability to judge what's popular right now. Quest druid has a huge early game tempo problem that can be exploited that's inherent with the quest design. There are very few cards that could be added that would make this go away. Sure, choose one cards are now forever boosted by this quest in terms of viability but I wouldn't worry so much about it being stifling to future design. If all you can see is quest druid when you are deck building then try exploring the druid decks on this site or sites like it. There are actually a lot of fairly viable decks not many people play. They aren't as optimized but in the right metas some are extremely powerful.
Also, the 'undiscovered deck' idea could hit at very random times. I remember out of no where when Kael/Tempo rogue just shot to tier 1 weeks after the expansion was out. Even this expansion has the dark horse of aggro warrior that's slowly becoming more popular and higher win rate. They aren't as flashy or as obvious to build as something like Quest druid and that's why it takes more time for the community to really optimize and learn about them.
Is the Quest bad for Druid?
Quest druid is by no means an OP deck, it can make powerful plays, but it loses too much to aggro, and when they complete their quest they don't automatically win.
But whether the quest is health for the class is another matter entirely. I agree with you that quest druid will probably remain the best standard (and wild) deck for druid for a while due to the flexibility of the card. But I don't think the deck will be powerful enough in the meta for it to be too much of a problem yet. It will only end up being a problem if we end up seeing too many druid archetypes being introduced and then ignored because of quest druid.
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RENOUNCE WARLOCK!(standard soonTM)
do you think a copy of The Soularium would work well in here? The mana curve seems pretty cheap, and it would be useful for finding Renounce Darkness. I'd probably cut a copy of Impbalming because it makes it harder to get a Renounce Darkness and there really isn't an upside for shuffling in 3 random class cards into a deck full of random class cards.
I feel like 15 secrets is too many. I don't think you have enough minions to justify things like Argent Protector and Dire Wolf Alpha.
A better build could possibly include less secrets, which would mean you wouldn't have to have so many cards that cheat out secrets (2 Mysterious Challenger, 2 Bellringer Sentry and a Subject 9) and then you would have room for more minions that can take advantage of the numerous secrets in the deck.
Group Therapy! Need to blow off some steam? Mega salty? Here's the place!
Maybe this experience of mine will make you feel a little bit better: two months ago I was grinding to get to Legend. Rank 2, 2 (or 3, I don't remember well) stars: I start the matchmaking and my opponent is rank 3000ish Legend. Feelsbadman
Get Those Ranked Wins - End of Season Standard Laddering Awesomeness
I miss playing Mech Paladin, thank you.
Hearthstone Hypothesis - Why do the Game Board Interactions Exist?
I too apologize if my initial post sounded like a criticism. I just wanted to mention one of my favorite board interactions that happened to not be mentioned. I really do enjoy articles like this and hope that they continue.
GetMeowth's OTK Warlock
You are saying that this list would be better as a different list, and then other person is telling you that that is a different list, and not the list you are looking at now. I don't see why you are upset.