I'm not normally one to complain. But my last opponent can just fuck off. Turn Three and I had to go and answer my front door to collect a package. I come back and the Rope is burning. "Oh well", thinks I and play my card and end the turn.
My opponent, on the other hand, then spends every single turn doing what they need to do then letting the Rope burn all the way down. Every. Single. Turn.
Now look, whoever you are, I can normally ignore Ropers. I have other things I need to do as well. But fuck me sideways. When I let the Rope burn down because Real Life Shit happens do not think I've done that intentionally. And then proceed to do the same, even after I finish my turns in normal time and don't see the Rope again.
I do think this type of brawl is far from the worst ever, BUT it's very slow, which makes losses feel somewhat punishing - not much incentive to replay it
hum this will be nerfed quite rapidly..it's so broken..I can see shaman decks built around this power...AND we haven't seen the shaman cards yet for the new expansion...this is not good...
You can potentially get two drustvar horrors, each of which can cast their double spells twice. There are some spell combinations that can just autowin the game, like [token generator] + The Storm Bringer, and now you get two rolls for it, not to mention two rolls on the horror itself. If you can afford to pay 9 mana for a 5/5 then Swamp Queen + quest will probably win the game.
Dude, Hagatha the 7 mana 5/5 is too slow to play in any competitive shaman right now, including control ones. Make it cost +2 with the hero power and it's even worse
What deck is going to let you pass a 9 mana turn? Control warrior? They can just brawl your storm bringer board while you draw bombs
This is the equivalent of saying Tak Nozwhisker is broken with Academic Espionage. You can spend your entire turn getting insane value but it doesn't really matter when even the slowest of opponents is going to punish your for it
In a world where Elysiana still sees play I don't think this argument holds too much water. Obviously this would only ever come into play against control and slow combo decks, but in those cases spending nine mana to develop subpar stats and game-winning value is not inconceivable.
Control shaman has excellent healing options, why would it lose to a couple of bombs?
And of course I did give a preface in my OP outlining how I thought this quest was too slow as-is without further support from OP battlecries.
Like I said on the card's page: "It's fine, but...why be a Shaman card? You had Brann Bronzebeard as the Hunter hero; it was right there."
Beyond that, the connection with Shudderwock should be obvious and concerning. Presumably the Shaman will receive new Battlecry minions and/or weapons, and that's more fuel for Shudderwock. At least you cannot easily Hero Power + Shudderwock in the same turn.
Edit: This is being inserted into my Jade C'Thun deck for sure.
shudderwock isn't a big deal with this. firstly, shudderwock costs 9 so either the shaman needs to start with the coin or find a way to reduce shudders cost. 2nd, shudder repeating his own battlecry won't affect the minion so it would only summon more copies to return to hand. unless there is some new card that can make the combo more broken, i don't see it being an issue
When I saw the quests for the first time, I thought about the drawback of not being able to run hero cards in your deck, because the new hero powers could replace or be replaced by the quest reward. Imho Heart of Vir'naal is very strong in various decks (Shudderwock TTK with Emperor, Jade, Elemental...), but it would be interesting to see some decks removing the all-powerful Hagatha the Witch and the ability to generate cards in favour for this card. This applies to all other classes in wild, that have busted hero cards (or in standard with Dr. Boom, Mad Genius in warrior's case).
I'm a bit worried that this may limit design space in the future: battlecry is a solid mechanic spread everywhere and the chance to double it costantly may seriously put a limit on what will we printed both in the Shaman class and neutral pool.
I fully agree with Lightspoon. Having a constant Brann Bronzebeard effect for only 2 mana per turn is worrisome.
I'm a bit worried that this may limit design space in the future: battlecry is a solid mechanic spread everywhere and the chance to double it costantly may seriously put a limit on what will be printed both in the Shaman class and neutral pool.
You can potentially get two drustvar horrors, each of which can cast their double spells twice. There are some spell combinations that can just autowin the game, like [token generator] + The Storm Bringer, and now you get two rolls for it, not to mention two rolls on the horror itself. If you can afford to pay 9 mana for a 5/5 then Swamp Queen + quest will probably win the game.
Dude, Hagatha the 7 mana 5/5 is too slow to play in any competitive shaman right now, including control ones. Make it cost +2 with the hero power and it's even worse
What deck is going to let you pass a 9 mana turn? Control warrior? They can just brawl your storm bringer board while you draw bombs
This is the equivalent of saying Tak Nozwhisker is broken with Academic Espionage. You can spend your entire turn getting insane value but it doesn't really matter when even the slowest of opponents is going to punish your for it
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Why is playing battlecry cards corrupting the waters???
New Shaman Spell - Corrupt the Waters
Questing explorer looks even better now, if that's possible.
[Game] Name another card that has the same...
Archmage Vargoth
commonly used in big priest
New Warrior Minion - Restless Mummy
My first thought was that this was a worse Flanking Strike, until I realized that the reborn minion would have rush as well.
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Nope, doesn't work. It'll still only cast Lava Burst twice.
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Jaws biting, claws catching!
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Wild goes wild.
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Lackey Shaman incoming?
The reward is damn slow, but let's not forget the strength of a HP is in its consistency.
C'Thun Corrupts the Jade Waters
nice deck
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I'm not normally one to complain. But my last opponent can just fuck off. Turn Three and I had to go and answer my front door to collect a package. I come back and the Rope is burning. "Oh well", thinks I and play my card and end the turn.
My opponent, on the other hand, then spends every single turn doing what they need to do then letting the Rope burn all the way down. Every. Single. Turn.
Now look, whoever you are, I can normally ignore Ropers. I have other things I need to do as well. But fuck me sideways. When I let the Rope burn down because Real Life Shit happens do not think I've done that intentionally. And then proceed to do the same, even after I finish my turns in normal time and don't see the Rope again.
I'm glad I beat you, but damn son....
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I do think this type of brawl is far from the worst ever, BUT it's very slow, which makes losses feel somewhat punishing - not much incentive to replay it
[Game] Name another card that has the same...
Marin the Fox
Free legendary from Blizz.
New Shaman Spell - Corrupt the Waters
Hero Power (double battlecry) Electra Stormsurge + Lava Burst = 20 HP
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hum this will be nerfed quite rapidly..it's so broken..I can see shaman decks built around this power...AND we haven't seen the shaman cards yet for the new expansion...this is not good...
New Shaman Spell - Corrupt the Waters
In a world where Elysiana still sees play I don't think this argument holds too much water. Obviously this would only ever come into play against control and slow combo decks, but in those cases spending nine mana to develop subpar stats and game-winning value is not inconceivable.
Control shaman has excellent healing options, why would it lose to a couple of bombs?
And of course I did give a preface in my OP outlining how I thought this quest was too slow as-is without further support from OP battlecries.
New Shaman Spell - Corrupt the Waters
That's a powerful reward for a quest, could be problematic in the future. At least you have to pay 2 mana to do it.
I don't get the flavor though. What does "corrupt the water" have to do with battlecries triggering twice?
Fill & Mill
Book of Specters doesn't seem right for a deck containing 13 spells.
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shudderwock isn't a big deal with this. firstly, shudderwock costs 9 so either the shaman needs to start with the coin or find a way to reduce shudders cost. 2nd, shudder repeating his own battlecry won't affect the minion so it would only summon more copies to return to hand. unless there is some new card that can make the combo more broken, i don't see it being an issue
New Shaman Spell - Corrupt the Waters
When I saw the quests for the first time, I thought about the drawback of not being able to run hero cards in your deck, because the new hero powers could replace or be replaced by the quest reward. Imho Heart of Vir'naal is very strong in various decks (Shudderwock TTK with Emperor, Jade, Elemental...), but it would be interesting to see some decks removing the all-powerful Hagatha the Witch and the ability to generate cards in favour for this card. This applies to all other classes in wild, that have busted hero cards (or in standard with Dr. Boom, Mad Genius in warrior's case).
Btw
I fully agree with Lightspoon. Having a constant Brann Bronzebeard effect for only 2 mana per turn is worrisome.
New Shaman Quest Revealed! - Corrupt the Waters
Priest quest:
2 mana
Resurrect a minion that died this game.
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I'm a bit worried that this may limit design space in the future: battlecry is a solid mechanic spread everywhere and the chance to double it costantly may seriously put a limit on what will be printed both in the Shaman class and neutral pool.
New Shaman Quest Revealed! - Corrupt the Waters
Snicker snack and torture shaman would like to have a word with you
reveal the new cards
Thank you Flux and your team.
You deliver as always =)
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Dude, Hagatha the 7 mana 5/5 is too slow to play in any competitive shaman right now, including control ones. Make it cost +2 with the hero power and it's even worse
What deck is going to let you pass a 9 mana turn? Control warrior? They can just brawl your storm bringer board while you draw bombs
This is the equivalent of saying Tak Nozwhisker is broken with Academic Espionage. You can spend your entire turn getting insane value but it doesn't really matter when even the slowest of opponents is going to punish your for it
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