also, I don't know if you have looked into this yet, but I would like to know what named characters from WoW we are going to see in this expansion s we can know which legendaries to make.
Always loved oddshaman and playd it sucessful a year ago as overload version. This one is diffrent but looks great :-). Not shure about double healbot when you have two healing rains which i think are better. And i am not convinved using Hagatas scheme in wild. If you have it in your start hand great but otherwise it´s usually not helpful.
I also prefer Acolyte of pain over Mana tide totem but both have their place so maybe a matter of taste.
DR. BOOM MAD GENIUS NEEDS TO F***ING GO. I lost thanks to that card because of the 7 armor the battlecry gives, (opponent had 7 health the following turn upon playing it) I could not get through the additional 35 armor gained over the course of the turns played afterwards, that is 65 health in case ya didn't realize. Blizzard PLEASE STOP printing hero cards. "infinite value cards" suck to play against as ANY deck. I don't care if you're a smorc hunter or control priest and everyone in between, Hagatha, Boom, and Zu'ljin should have never been printed and they all should have left with all the other hero cards. Some should not have hero cards, either all have them (at varying viability) or none. If there is not going to be an inherent downside then they should not be printed. Juraxxus is the ONLY hero card I feel that is perfectly balanced, very powerful effect, but you can only have 15 health...there NEEDS to be a downside to these things to make them "fair" to play against.
Their logic for last years "If it's random it's not OP". But I agree with you.
That was my thought as well. The deck had a lot fewer ways to survive and stall out the game than other OTK decks imo. Plus the whole APM thing (which is a real barrier especially when faced with Voidlord taunt walls back in the day)
Not a particular list but Rez Priest of any sort is probably my favourite sort of archetype, and when RoS released you can guess what card i immediately crafted and played with
There are always going to be one or two classes in the gutter every standard year. Warrior and Shaman were one-trick ponies for most of last year. It's Priest's and Warlock's turn to be boring this time around.
Nope. Though I have an internal rule that if I'm ever going to craft a golden card, it has to have a Discover or token-generating effect so the card/token they'll give me will be golden as well. If I'm ever going to bling out, might as well squeeze value out of it :)
Might be a surprise for some, but Cubelock for me. It might be because I played it post-nerf, but I could never get my win rate close to 50%. I often didn't know what to do in the early game, I burned cards from having a full hand all the time, and I had difficulty timing its synergies. That deck takes considerable skill to pilot which I never managed to cultivate.
DMH Warrior was difficult too. That deck was like the ultimate survival test lol.
Played Wild for the first time today! I built a Jade Druid deck (don't hate me, it's the only deck I could piece together with my limited wild collection) and I've been having fun with it. I haven't faced any Big Priests yet, so...
I did face this Reno Warlock though, who managed to get a Dead Man's Hand (forgot how), played it, and THEN played Reno Jackson like a doofus. I've forgotten how prone to misplays some players can be in Rank 25.
If a round of nerfs hit Warrior and take it down a notch or two, you can bet that Aggro Shaman will run roughshod over the meta. Would you like that?
Warrior isn't fun to play against right now, but the class functions as a necessary evil to maintain balance in the meta. Though it's boring to play against, it's not oppressive by all means--it has miserable matchups against Bomb Hunters, Mech Paladins, and Conjurer Mages with their waves of big threats. Murloc Shamans can beat it too.
Blizzard won’t nerf hero cards, they refused to do it with Bloodreaver Gul’dan and Frost Lich Jaina who were both much more oppressive. They have also stated they think boom is fair because he hero power is random which is a laughable excuse. Unfortunately he’s gonna be around for a while.
Already had purchased the wild bundle. I have the dust for one of the two, but probably will just save it for next expansion.
Might splurge and craft chillmaw. I don’t feel wrathion is very necessary. My hand is always close to full playing this deck, not sure it needs any more card draw.
This may come off as a rant but I'm a little tired of Mech Warrior still being so proliferate as it is. It's just not fun when they get Boom on curve and then proceed to just grind out the rest of the game with constant nearly infinite answers. Nerfing Archivist to 9 mana didn't change much. All it did was force warriors who get the coin to just hold onto it.
As for Dr Boom Mad Genius himself. I honestly don't see how he wasn't hit with the recent nerfs a few weeks ago. Not only that but it restricts design space and balance for the next 2 expansions this year for any neutral or warrior mechs releases, since they have to assume rush will be in play when that mech is used in warrior decks, thus lowering the power of any possible neutral mechs in the future.
My proposal is simple: Warriors are a control class, but they don't need a passive RUSH mechanic given to every mech they play the rest of the game. An easy, simple, elegant solution is to take away the passive of Dr Boom (No more rush) which forces warriors to play more proactively. The hero power can stay roughly the same as it was with ONE exception.
Since my suggestion would take away the passive of ALL mechs the warrior plays no longer having rush I would suggest that the hero power Micro Squadbe given rush instead. That way warriors can still magnetize onto them and have rush in a RNG fashion, which fits in with Dr Boom's theme of being "random and crazy".
Sorry if this comes off as a rant. It probably is in retrospect. I'm just tired of facing them game after game. Sure I can win against them sometimes, but that doesn't negate the fact that the card as it stands is overly oppressive in the meta.
Renolock being the best is just plain wrong. Check literally any meta report and there'll be at least 3 warlock decks above renolock always.
@Jaybaseball1: I couldn't find any treachery warlock gameplay on youtube. You'd have most luck checking through Renojackson's (t.tv/renojackson_hs) VODs.
Cool, I'll be sure to take a look.
Does anyone else have any ideas??
Also, how is the cyclone mage? It's really cheap, and in tier one. (how I came across it) Does anyone recommend it?
DR. BOOM MAD GENIUS NEEDS TO F***ING GO. I lost thanks to that card because of the 7 armor the battlecry gives, (opponent had 7 health the following turn upon playing it) I could not get through the additional 35 armor gained over the course of the turns played afterwards, that is 65 health in case ya didn't realize. Blizzard PLEASE STOP printing hero cards. "infinite value cards" suck to play against as ANY deck. I don't care if you're a smorc hunter or control priest and everyone in between, Hagatha, Boom, and Zu'ljin should have never been printed and they all should have left with all the other hero cards. Some should not have hero cards, either all have them (at varying viability) or none. If there is not going to be an inherent downside then they should not be printed. Juraxxus is the ONLY hero card I feel that is perfectly balanced, very powerful effect, but you can only have 15 health...there NEEDS to be a downside to these things to make them "fair" to play against.
(yes I think conjurers needs a nerf as well, maybe lose the twinspell tag on that one)
Signed
Frustrated long time player, with a new hole in his wall
P.S. Do not tell me the typical answer of well you just need to counter that deck, that is the problem with Warrior right now...there is almost NO counter to it besides maybe Mech Paladin (control pally main here) and that deck is at BEST a Tier 3
It took me all format to get here, but it’s time for Mad Genius to be nerfed or HOF’d.
Warrior is reaching Druid levels of dominance and variety. It can go aggro, midrange, and/or super long, and the shell is all the same. And the shell is held together by the Hero card.
I don't know about nerfing or HOF, but they could change the stats on it, that's for sure. At some point today I asked myself if it shouldn't be renamed. We could call it "Autoconcede" so you know at what point in the game you lose. I think one of the most disgusting aspects of this card is that the Warrior can draw it at the beginning of the game and just hold onto it until 7 mana are available to play it. It does not precisely gain value from turn 1 to 7 yet it's beneficial to hold onto it from the very beginning of the game just because. I mean, it doesn't hurt the warrior to hold onto it over seven turns because playing it is basically the beginning of the end. It's obvious that it's a disgusting card because even warriors focused on a dragon theme play it. Its flavor is mech, but a dragon deck benefits from it.
Fortunately, I am still on a salt hiatus. I am still indifferent about losing to bullshit. I lose to bullshit and continue to press forward. I will not abandon you, however, my salty ones. Eventually, I will get salty again.
I feel your pain, though, RandomGuy. Dr. Boom is a piece of shit. Also, the warrior class is currently braindead. I was playing warrior, actually, a month ago, because I'm collecting golden heroes. I stopped because it's autopilot. Especially bomb warrior. Need to draw some rush minions? Draw them. Need more armor? Get some. Need to remove minions infinitely? Do it. It's pathetic. I will earn my golden warrior when it's less like this
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Always loved oddshaman and playd it sucessful a year ago as overload version. This one is diffrent but looks great :-). Not shure about double healbot when you have two healing rains which i think are better. And i am not convinved using Hagatas scheme in wild. If you have it in your start hand great but otherwise it´s usually not helpful.
I also prefer Acolyte of pain over Mana tide totem but both have their place so maybe a matter of taste.
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Their logic for last years "If it's random it's not OP". But I agree with you.
Which was the hardest Deck ever to be played in Standard ?
That was my thought as well. The deck had a lot fewer ways to survive and stall out the game than other OTK decks imo. Plus the whole APM thing (which is a real barrier especially when faced with Voidlord taunt walls back in the day)
A Weekend of Wild Decks
Love the wild posts on the weekend. fun to read the blurbs and try them out. If you have those old cards, that is.
Have you ever crafted a golden legendary for a favorite deck?
First one was Confessor Paletress followed by some Hunter Stuff (Kathrena Winterwisp, Deathstalker Rexxar), Hadronox for my Odd Taunt-Druid and the HoF Cards.
Have you ever crafted a golden legendary for a favorite deck?
Not a particular list but Rez Priest of any sort is probably my favourite sort of archetype, and when RoS released you can guess what card i immediately crafted and played with
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Guys, Warlock is so bad right now
There are always going to be one or two classes in the gutter every standard year. Warrior and Shaman were one-trick ponies for most of last year. It's Priest's and Warlock's turn to be boring this time around.
Have you ever crafted a golden legendary for a favorite deck?
Nope. Though I have an internal rule that if I'm ever going to craft a golden card, it has to have a Discover or token-generating effect so the card/token they'll give me will be golden as well. If I'm ever going to bling out, might as well squeeze value out of it :)
Which was the hardest Deck ever to be played in Standard ?
Might be a surprise for some, but Cubelock for me. It might be because I played it post-nerf, but I could never get my win rate close to 50%. I often didn't know what to do in the early game, I burned cards from having a full hand all the time, and I had difficulty timing its synergies. That deck takes considerable skill to pilot which I never managed to cultivate.
DMH Warrior was difficult too. That deck was like the ultimate survival test lol.
The Pepper Thread - Share Some Good Vibes!
Played Wild for the first time today! I built a Jade Druid deck (don't hate me, it's the only deck I could piece together with my limited wild collection) and I've been having fun with it. I haven't faced any Big Priests yet, so...
I did face this Reno Warlock though, who managed to get a Dead Man's Hand (forgot how), played it, and THEN played Reno Jackson like a doofus. I've forgotten how prone to misplays some players can be in Rank 25.
Tired of Mech Warriors
If a round of nerfs hit Warrior and take it down a notch or two, you can bet that Aggro Shaman will run roughshod over the meta. Would you like that?
Warrior isn't fun to play against right now, but the class functions as a necessary evil to maintain balance in the meta. Though it's boring to play against, it's not oppressive by all means--it has miserable matchups against Bomb Hunters, Mech Paladins, and Conjurer Mages with their waves of big threats. Murloc Shamans can beat it too.
Tired of Mech Warriors
Blizzard won’t nerf hero cards, they refused to do it with Bloodreaver Gul’dan and Frost Lich Jaina who were both much more oppressive. They have also stated they think boom is fair because he hero power is random which is a laughable excuse. Unfortunately he’s gonna be around for a while.
Rexxar's Emerald Dream
Already had purchased the wild bundle. I have the dust for one of the two, but probably will just save it for next expansion.
Might splurge and craft chillmaw. I don’t feel wrathion is very necessary. My hand is always close to full playing this deck, not sure it needs any more card draw.
Tired of Mech Warriors
This may come off as a rant but I'm a little tired of Mech Warrior still being so proliferate as it is. It's just not fun when they get Boom on curve and then proceed to just grind out the rest of the game with constant nearly infinite answers. Nerfing Archivist to 9 mana didn't change much. All it did was force warriors who get the coin to just hold onto it.
As for Dr Boom Mad Genius himself. I honestly don't see how he wasn't hit with the recent nerfs a few weeks ago. Not only that but it restricts design space and balance for the next 2 expansions this year for any neutral or warrior mechs releases, since they have to assume rush will be in play when that mech is used in warrior decks, thus lowering the power of any possible neutral mechs in the future.
My proposal is simple: Warriors are a control class, but they don't need a passive RUSH mechanic given to every mech they play the rest of the game. An easy, simple, elegant solution is to take away the passive of Dr Boom (No more rush) which forces warriors to play more proactively. The hero power can stay roughly the same as it was with ONE exception.
Since my suggestion would take away the passive of ALL mechs the warrior plays no longer having rush I would suggest that the hero power Micro Squad be given rush instead. That way warriors can still magnetize onto them and have rush in a RNG fashion, which fits in with Dr Boom's theme of being "random and crazy".
Sorry if this comes off as a rant. It probably is in retrospect. I'm just tired of facing them game after game. Sure I can win against them sometimes, but that doesn't negate the fact that the card as it stands is overly oppressive in the meta.
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Freeze shaman? If you can't afford all those cards, this is a good one to rank with for cheap:
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Which Warlock Deck to Build?
Cool, I'll be sure to take a look.
Does anyone else have any ideas??
Also, how is the cyclone mage? It's really cheap, and in tier one. (how I came across it) Does anyone recommend it?
Group Therapy! Need to blow off some steam? Mega salty? Here's the place!
DR. BOOM MAD GENIUS NEEDS TO F***ING GO. I lost thanks to that card because of the 7 armor the battlecry gives, (opponent had 7 health the following turn upon playing it) I could not get through the additional 35 armor gained over the course of the turns played afterwards, that is 65 health in case ya didn't realize. Blizzard PLEASE STOP printing hero cards. "infinite value cards" suck to play against as ANY deck. I don't care if you're a smorc hunter or control priest and everyone in between, Hagatha, Boom, and Zu'ljin should have never been printed and they all should have left with all the other hero cards. Some should not have hero cards, either all have them (at varying viability) or none. If there is not going to be an inherent downside then they should not be printed. Juraxxus is the ONLY hero card I feel that is perfectly balanced, very powerful effect, but you can only have 15 health...there NEEDS to be a downside to these things to make them "fair" to play against.
(yes I think conjurers needs a nerf as well, maybe lose the twinspell tag on that one)
Signed
Frustrated long time player, with a new hole in his wall
P.S. Do not tell me the typical answer of well you just need to counter that deck, that is the problem with Warrior right now...there is almost NO counter to it besides maybe Mech Paladin (control pally main here) and that deck is at BEST a Tier 3
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I don't know about nerfing or HOF, but they could change the stats on it, that's for sure. At some point today I asked myself if it shouldn't be renamed. We could call it "Autoconcede" so you know at what point in the game you lose. I think one of the most disgusting aspects of this card is that the Warrior can draw it at the beginning of the game and just hold onto it until 7 mana are available to play it. It does not precisely gain value from turn 1 to 7 yet it's beneficial to hold onto it from the very beginning of the game just because. I mean, it doesn't hurt the warrior to hold onto it over seven turns because playing it is basically the beginning of the end. It's obvious that it's a disgusting card because even warriors focused on a dragon theme play it. Its flavor is mech, but a dragon deck benefits from it.
Fortunately, I am still on a salt hiatus. I am still indifferent about losing to bullshit. I lose to bullshit and continue to press forward. I will not abandon you, however, my salty ones. Eventually, I will get salty again.
I feel your pain, though, RandomGuy. Dr. Boom is a piece of shit. Also, the warrior class is currently braindead. I was playing warrior, actually, a month ago, because I'm collecting golden heroes. I stopped because it's autopilot. Especially bomb warrior. Need to draw some rush minions? Draw them. Need more armor? Get some. Need to remove minions infinitely? Do it. It's pathetic. I will earn my golden warrior when it's less like this