The problem with this mechanic is not that the cards that use it are too strong (although they are), it won't be fixed by simply nerfing BMM, P.Goods and the Yordle. The problem with this mechanic lies in the fact that is too chaotic for a game like LoR, it creates scenarios that are unpredictable and uncounterable, and it changes the outcome of games out of pure luck.

For example, If I run a single Ruination in my deck and my enemy is not playing SI, then you can't expect me to play against Ruination (alongside with all the other cards in my deck), and I shouldn't do it. It's a frustrating, unfun and unfair mechanic.

Making it draw from the bottom instead of the top of the deck is just part of the solution, but that was not really the core issue here, that was just a buff to Freijlord, not really a nerf to the mechanic itself.

As I see it there are 2 possible ways of actually making this mechanic fair: You either make the nab'd cards fleeting or you reveal them to the enemy. I personally rather have the later. I think it would still be played since the cards have extreme value right now. BMM is a 1 mana 2/1 that draws a card. PG is a 2 mana draw 2 cards that can be turned into a 0 mana draw 2 cards if you have BMM on the board, which is most of the times. Having those cards being revealed to the enemy is more than fair. 

This would problably be a very low priority feature, but while writing a thread on the Mythgard forum, I linked to something that won't happen for another 15-20 hours. I was thinking it would be cool to have some sort of text box, simmilar to the image and url ones, where you introduce a date and time (maybe even with the possibility of picking a time-zone), and there'd be a countdown telling you how many hours are left until the event happens. I doesn't even need to update itself constantly, only when you refresh the page.

This would also work amazingly with the calendar that was mentioned in another thread, if either ever get implemented.

Well, this forum is pretty much dead. Time to do like a Priest and revive it! The expansion is FINALLY coming, and I'm going to use this thread here to post the schedule for any spoilers I come across. 

New Mechanic - Forge: "if you've burned a copy of this card this game, gain this effect". Read more here.

Blue:

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Card	Who revealed it
Mythics:
	Kryptik Gaming
	Lazergician
	Tempest987
Rares:
	Rune42
	Ejecty
Uncommons:
	Hzoj
	EolisTV
Commons:
	WholesomeGMNG
	WholesomeGMNG
	Ejecty
	Rhino Games

Yellow:

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Card	Who revealed it
Mythics:
	Kryptik Gaming
	MythgardHub
Rares:
	Rune42
	Ejecty
	WholesomeGMNG
Uncommons:
	MythgardHub
	Kryptik Gaming
Commons:
	Tune Star
	Rhino Games
	Minmaxer
	Out Of Cards
	WholesomeGMNG
	Kryptik Gaming

Red

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Card	Who revealed it
Mythics:
	Rhino Games
	Oneiric
	Rhino Games
Rares:
	Ejecty
Uncommons:
	Tempest987
	Hzoj
Amnesia is not a new card, it's part of the core set.	Rune42
Commons:
	Terminal
	Rune42
	Tune Star
	MinMaxer

 

Green:

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Card	Who revealed it
Mythics:
	Tune Star
Rares:
	Kryptik Gaming
	Ejecty
Uncommons:
	Rhino Games
	Rune42
	MythgardHub
	WholesomeGMNG
	Hzoj
Commons:
	Lazergician
	MythgardHub

Orange:

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Card	Who revealed it
Mythics:
	EolisTV
	Hzoj
	MinMaxer
Rares
	Ejecty
Parsa Divinity Cannon is not a new card, it's part of the core set.	Tune Star
	Hzoj
Uncommons:
	MythgardHub
	Stephanie Dawnheart
Commons:
	MinMaxer
	Rhino Games
	MythgardHub

Purple:

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Card	Who revealed it
Mythics:
	MythgardHub
Rares:
	Hzoj
	Terminal
Uncommons:
	Stephanie Dawnheart
	MythgardHub
	MythgardHub
	MythgardHub
Commons:
	MythgardHub
Note: A minion is threatened by the ones in the opposite lanes.	Tune Star
	Tritros
	MythgardHub

Multi-color:

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Mythic:
	Ejecty
	MythgardHub
Rare:
Uncommon:
Common:

My go-to fun deck is Reno Demon Hunter at the moment. I net decked the list and didn't pay much attention to it, but today I noticed that Kazakus is missing from the usual Highlander package. So I tried to add him and... I couldn't. While the deck list is open, the card isn't shown in my collection, no matter what I do. Has anyone else encountered this? 

Now you see me... 

... now you don't. 

I don't understand. I heard a few streamers say that. But the deck sucks. It completely revolves around you getting Heimer. If you don't get Heimer you lose. Plain and simple. Vi only protects him that's it. How is that the best deck  in the game?

i was playing with freljord/SI deck vs nox/SI player in unranked, when he used Harsh Winds on me to win the game ?!

He had no card steal options and I dont even have Harsh Winds in my EndureSpider deck.

How the hell he can use the freljord card ??? Cheating? or did I miss something?

Tier 1 - Frejord

The buff to braum has only cemented the place of this region at top of the pile since patch 1.3, and while its true the power mostly lies in the champions, it turns out thats kind of a big deal. Also the changes to yoink made buffing your deck, and yetis inherently better. Also has some of the best combat tricks in the game.

Tier 2 - Noxious

What really impressed me with this region in the new season is deck diversity. Sure we see aggro nox decks of various varieties everywhere, but we also have allegiance just starting to be a thing with the buffed bassalisk rider,  we have its pairings with frejord in midrange builds, you can even run it with shadow with a longer endgame plan

Tier 3 - Shadow Isles

Shadow is always the best anti aggro region with withering wail being a pretty obvious mvp control card. The champions are solid offering a variety of deck builds, and keeper is still the best 2 drop in the game despite the nerfs. Deep is still solid, with only ephemeral still being in need of a little work.

Tier 4 - Bilgewater

The yoink nerf hit this region hard, you no longer need to fear MF tempo decks like the plague, but that just gives room for gangplank and TF to shine in control builds. Kegs have received consistent buffs and is in a healthy and solid position, the perfect slightly above average region.

Tier 5 - Ionia

Provides elusives, counterspells, bounces, and stuns, and great card advantage tools. While there might not be anything about ionia that really strikes you as OP anymore in the champion department, it turns out just being solid is good enough. Ionia struggles against aggro a bit, but punishes midrange so its placement on the tier list will always be moving up and down as the meta changes.

Tier 6 - P And Z 

I absolutely love this region, but beyond the very limited applications in burn aggro, and Heimer Vi it's truly underrepresented at the moment. Its top end options could use a few buffs cementing its placement as a control region, with the likes of Corina, celebration day, and that 7 mana multishot removal spell.

Tier 7 - Demacia

Not only have they suffered nerfs to their flagship midrange bannerman deck with the likes of badger bear and grizzled ranger falling from grace. But the real bullet to the head, was changing their indestructible spell from burst to fast speed, which hurt lux in a big way. There isn't a lot of reason to run this region other than single combat which is the most efficient removal spell in the game.

Conclusion - Expect these rankings to change with future balance changes and expansions, legends of runterra is a well designed game and the difference between a top tier region and low tier region is just a numbers tweak away.

there is any date? god i hope it will be during the first days of July, but the corona virus thing really worries me

I want to start by apologizing for what is going to be an indepth analysis of logical fallacies, in relations to net decking in Legends of Runterra.

Be aware, this doesn't apply to games like mtg or hearthstone where net decks are actually just objectively better.

We are going to use Elusive burn as an example https://lor.mobalytics.gg/decks/brpb1t1la4s47cjpnfn0

Originally this list used to feature two potions two retreats and 0 zeds

These 4 cards or slots in the deck are what we call tech choices, they exist to counter the decks you are likely to run into on ladder

The only problem is that said slots can only exist as good in a specific time and space in which they are intended.

For example retreat is at it's best when it counters get excited which forces the opponent to go down a card, which is found in Heimer Vi

The play rate of Heimer Vi is lower than initially thought and we replace it with Zed which is better in every other instance

Therefore you are better off coming to these conclusions yourself because you will always be faster than the meta shifts.

Please feel free to discuss but keep it civil - heart you all

I love this site, it has almost everything, but some small features in the card searching interface would be appreciated for convenience. (both for outof.cards/hearthstone/cards/ and https://outof.cards/legends-of-runeterra/cards/)

1. Make it possible to search for Standard cards only in the card searching interface. 
2. Similarly, make it possible to search for multiple expansions and mechanics simultaneously, for example Naxxramas, Old Gods and Basic at the same time, or Divine Shield and Taunt.
3. Show the number of results found. This would make it easier to evaluate the chances of specific things happening, for example, Solarian casting 3 of the same spells in a row.
4. Plus one, this is not a new feature, but could Results Display default to card images please? I feel like it's just more intuitive that way, that is how we see our cards all the time. It would remove two clicks for us.

Thank you to all the staff for working so hard on this site!

where I can see them, after the award?

Can I could get some help with the deck creator for Runeterra, I would thank you as well.

https://outof.cards/forums/legends-of-runeterra/deckbuilding-sharing/4418-bannerman-with-a-noxian-twist

So the Felfire Festival ist drawing to a close, gifting us some packs, an adventure with little replayability, and no arena rotation. So what is the next big thing to look forward too?  How long to the next expansion, any chance of something inbetween? To have a better basis of discussion, I'd suggest implementing a calender where you can see the biggest events of this and former hearthstone years- expansions, midway shake-ups, arena rotations, maybe even large nerfs, or possible the biggest E-sports happenings.

Also, I'd bet that at the end of the Felfire Festival the replacements for Leeroy and co. will finally be introduced, as well a new arena rotation.

I'll be honest I'm pretty luke warm about the predictions for the new season.

It's a lot of elusives, and burn in tier 1, along with Heimer that also just generates elusives.

That being said what isn't there is very healthy with endure and yoink dropping down to Tier 2.

The good news is that it's pretty easy to tech against aggro, especially if you're running shadow isles anyway.

Let me know what you guys think, again not endorsing these opinions so don't hate on me, just passing on the info for the hardcore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sPmy--U6EM

You can skip to the solutions on the bottom if you don't want to read the following explanation of the cards problems.

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The reason the card doesn't see play has nothing to do with the cost. It's the effect/pay off. The problem with the effect is as Swim stated the card wont's you to do two completely different things that contradict one another.

One it wants you to play a ton of spells. Easy enough. Then it wants you to flood the board with units. How do you do that? You can't have both. Its either one or the other.

At least that is what I thought till I made a deck that I have found can consistently do both and leave you with a full board of unites to buff up to anywhere between 7/7 - 11/11 by turn 7 or 8 and almost always have a mind meld in hand by then. By consistently I mean literally every time I played it. After 10 games with the deck I never once didn't have the mind meld and a full board by turn 7. I used all the multi unite spawning type spell cards between BW and P&Z with the usual P&Z board control spells and lots of BW an P&Z draw spells to find mind meld by turn 7 or 8. 

The problem is mind meld is meant to be a finisher but it fails at its job. Up until turn 7 or 8 all you have are mostly low cost 1/1 chum blockers who you can't afford to block with most of the time. Then your reward for making it to turn 7 or 8 is to buff them all to 10/10 unites that all end up getting blocked then turn back into little 1/1 unites at the end of the round.

So you cleared the board but didn't even harm the enemy nexus 99% of the time. So unless you have another MM you are now dead in the water.

PS: I also tried using unites that spawned spells rather than spells that spawn unites but you rarely had a full board by the time MM was ready to be used.

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I'm sorry this took so long but I felt I had to first point out the problems before I could lay out the solutions.

Option 1: Make the effect stay. This would allow for you to clear their board, defend yourself during their turn, and hopefully finish them off on your next turn. It would also allow the enemy player time on their turn to take out some of your unites and build a defense for your next attack or do a board clear of their own.

Option 2: Give the unites Overwhelm or Elusive when under its effect. Though this maybe OP.

Option 3: Make the spell either burst or fast speed. This would allow you to attack in when you see a good opening where the enemy player can't block all your unites then when they confirm their blocks you hit them with MM and hopefully win.

Golden Kael'thas Sunstrider Is not golden

More like silver or platinum 

Losing elusive outweighs making him cheaper, and they even nerfed his condition for drawing, now he needs to survive an enemy spell. Buffing a unit that has no combat perks like Elusive, is not that rewarding and he compares terribly to crimson aristocrat when it comes to being a target for spells like transfusion, blood for blood.

Now that my mis-leading title has caught your attention. Let's play guess how many new accounts get created to this forum in the next month to specifically complain about:

1) Elusives
2) Aggro Burn Style Decks
3) Braum

I would offer a reward for a successful guess, but I don't want junk accounts created just for someone to get to their number. While I do think Elusives and Aggro Burn Style is about to rule the meta once more. I think Vlad/Braum might actually be scary now.

Call me a Negative Nancy, but I think we will see 5 new accounts create threads complaining about the above.

To do friendly challanges with for the extra XP. 

Feel free to add :)

Tag: Katanaswing#3458

Dunno how Vincent3383 managed to make a thread with just a title and no post before this one... but to answer the question

Quotes from previous patch notes:

Starting with Patch 1.2, we’re adjusting how we patch LoR to make sure players get to play on new versions as simultaneously as possible, regardless of platform or location. The short version is we’ll continue to patch on Tuesday ~10 AM PT, but you won’t actually see changes until 24 hours later.

Starting with 1.2, here’s what it’ll look like when we update LoR every other week:

• Monday, ~10 AM PT
  • Patch notes article goes live.
• Tuesday, ~9:30-10:30 AM PT
  • We’ll deploy the new client to PC and the app stores. Players will be able to immediately update on PC, while mobile may take several hours based on your location.
  • This deployment will now be client-only, with no visible changes—think of it as the foundation for the new patch. You’ll be able to play afterwards as normal (though matchmaking will be separated by version), but functionally it’ll feel like you’re playing on the previous patch (in almost all cases).
• Wednesday, ~9:30-10:30 AM PT
  • We’ll push a data-only update that enables the new changes. You’ll briefly bounce to the Ashe loading screen if you’re in-client but won’t have to re-log (and games won’t be interrupted). We'll also force-update everyone to the new version—if you haven’t updated, you won’t be able to queue until you download the new version from your app store or re-log on PC.

( Source: https://playruneterra.com/en-us/news/patch-1-1-notes/#patch-timing )

Starting with Patch 1.4, we’re updating when we post patch notes—rather than posting the article at 10 AM PT on Mondays, we’ll start doing so at 10 AM PT on Tuesdays (24 hours later than we currently do). The 1.4 notes will land at 10 AM PT on June 23.

Starting with Patch 1.5, we’re updating Vault unlock timing to put it more safely after our patch timing. Vault unlock will move back from Tuesday to Thursday at 8 AM (local time based on shard). The week we move the Vault, we’ll have an extended, nine-day Vault to make the transition.

( Source: https://playruneterra.com/en-us/news/1-3-patch-notes/ )

Latest Runeterra patch boosted Braum in a way that to me is devastating. I created this deck, it's not so bad even now, but I expect that from tomorrow its win rate will boost !

Although I double checked I have all of them marked as 2/2 it shows that I am missing cards.

I will add also other points of feedback as well:

-The page numbering is wrong.. it starts from 0 and goes to up to number of pages -1 which is weird.

-Would be nice to get some more statistics in the progress page, how many of each rarity are missing and maybe from each set as well...

-Maybe add some kind of wish list?

Edit: I think those "missing cards" are the hero skins? I remember Arthas publishing Aranna as a basic set card 

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https://playruneterra.com/en-us/news/patch-1-4-notes-the-season-of-fortune/

Hey guys.

This patch is gearing up to be hugely impactful, with the tuning down of a few troublesome mechanics like yoink, and the buffing of several unplayable epics like Farron, shadowblade, and Jae.

Let's post our ideas for new lists on this thread, and I'll start us off with a fun budget aggro list with Ren.

He's a 4 mana 3/3 with quick attack that creates a show fiend in hand

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I'd love to see what your ideas are as well.

So I'm taking my question from the comments to the forums for some feedback. This is basically questions of wich cards to craft for a dude with decent collection but very little time to play.

I might craft Ancharrr after all since it seems like Warrior is totally impotent without it right now. Somewhat risky though since it might be affected by upcoming nerfs (without refund) and upcoming expansions.

Also, I don't play much now but still use Gala Secret Rogue on ladder. Is it obvious that Stealth is the way to go now instead of Shadowjeweler Hanar et al? I have all the cards so I will probably try it out at least.

I'm also missing a few cards for the strongest Tempo Demon Hunter lists. It's my impression that Metamorphosis is somewhat more vital than Kayn Sunfury. Am I right in this? As for now I'm running Maiev Shadowsong instead of Kayn to neutralize taunts.