I'm wondering if anyone has taken the "Do the Math" option in Bob's Bazaar, and whether it actually worked out. I can't imagine a deck where you would want to ditch all your 1 and 2 cost cards. Is there a specific strategy someone has found where this is even remotely worthwhile? Sure, in the late game, you usually hate to draw cheap stuff, but just removing it from the deck entirely? When victory against the AI is so often dependent on a good early game? I'm dubious, but honestly curious to hear if anyone has gotten some value out of it.

So....I occasionally check Hearthpwn every once in a while and I noticed something that's kind of bothering me.

While I really like the content you put on this site you seem to be missing out on reporting some rather crucial info.

For example, a few days back we had that micro patch that fixed the Plague Lord health bug....and while Hearthpwn had a post about that, we didn't get anything of the sort here. Same goes for the controversy that apparently has been happening on Reddit about unjust bans, that Blizzard reposnded too (and contained other valuable info)

Again, I'm not trying to complain, but I feel like these are the kind of news that should warrant a thread. Especially since you're usually pretty enthusiastic about posting content like Deck compilations or Lore posts.

I convinced a friend of mine to start playing Hearthstone some time ago and for the moment he prefers being Free-to-Play. He plays a basic mage deck and with my "help" we managed to get to rank 17. He is not new to cards games (we played MTG together) so he has a good understanding of the mechanics and such.

The problem is that as he gets a lot of wins, the algorithm matches him now with golden-portrait players with all-golden decks etc. He couldn't reach his Rank 15 goal, so I advised him to farm a bit in lower ranks, since he wishes to remain F2P for the time being. The problem actually got even worse at bottom ranks. Golden players farm wins and gold at these ranks apparently and ruin the experience for newer players. How are they going to love this game which treats them without respect? Would any of them stay or spend money to get bullied by dudes like them (trust me some of them are really toxic)? I do understand that as people play the game for longer and the skill cap of players get higher, we are going to see more and more of this.

Anyways, I believe that if anyone has been to Rank Legend or has over a certain amount of wins (1500+ wins lets say), the game should not let them drop under rank 15. Maybe if some of them have returned after a long time, there could be some "outs" for them. What do you think of this? If you were new to Hearthstone, would you invest any time, effort or money in a try-hard-looking, overpriced game like this?

EDIT: Apparently some clarification is much needed here. My friend is playing an almost all- basic Mage deck. Not just some basic net-deck. He started playing during summertime (a couple of months ago), so he didn't play consistently, meaning that his collection is non-existent. He ranked up from the first 30 ranks with ease and now faces the situation described above. He is not looking to win everyone he faces, but rather enjoy a card game and having something to discuss over while on break.

"Git gud" kind of commenters fail to see the real problem. Even being a "pro" at Hearthstone won't cut it here, since an under-developed F2P collection is as good as it gets. I think it makes sense that, one would remain F2P if got bullied by top-tier decks (or ditch the game entirely). Spending money to upgrade their collection would feel a bad investment on their behalf; I know I would, but thankfully I started years ago.

Golden players with complete collections farming that low, are a disgrace to the game and should be looked at more carefully by the developing team. That's the point I am making here: the matching system should not allow unfair matchmaking from happening in the first place and also try limiting the ranks in which old/pro/golden/2000+ win players can downgrade to. New players would lose their mind if those players prey upon them all the time. Would you return to the game after that? I don't think so..

While there has been a few individual threads about single runs, or bosses, we haven't got a general "look at my awesome run", and I feel like it would be fun. So post them here!

I'll start:

I was out to complete Chapter 2 (standard) with Reno after completing it with Finley, and also try out Lei Flamepaw at the same time. I ended up with this:

I've never used the Discs of Legend treasure before, but this time round I got 2, as well as getting Lei Flamepaw in my opening hand. This meant nearly every boss before the Plague Lord got burnt down by Eviscerate/Razorpetal spam (aided by the spell damage HP) by turn 5. Against the Plague Lord, All 3 Lei's died quickly enough, barely managing to take down the first 100 health, so I managed to tread water for a little while until I managed to draw Malygos. After that, I managed to finish the Plague Lord off from 120 health in one turn using Forgotten Torch/Razorpetal. Turns out getting 3 legendaries for every one played in preeetty good. Even if you don't manage to get that many legendaries in your deck.

So lets see the fun you've had in the tomb!

Hey, sorry if this is not the place to do this. 

Im looking to add people since most of the time I dont have people to spectate for quest or to complete the 80g. My battletag is Engineer8#1978 on NA.

Cheers!

With SoU bringing back so many key characters from WoW I expected at least some special dialogues.

It's kinda disappointing that nothing happens between two on-board Branns or Reno or between the Elise hero and any of the now numerous Elises (seriously - this is getting out of hand).

And these are just the obvious ones - nothing like "You'll pay! For Rhonin!" where you'd have to know the lore to get it. 

Now I understand mobile storage is limited and also something about indie company but what in your opinion should've been some catchphrases ? 

I got the most incredibly overpowered combination of passives for this run, using Sir Finley. Here they are:

--Ring that makes all your 0,1,2-cost minions have poisonous (Edit: It's called "Band of Bees")

--Rocket Boots - All your minions have rush

This combination makes your hero power read "Kill any minion for 2 mana, as long it doesn't have divine shield."

Easily defeated the Plague Lord on the first try with this combination (and of course I chose my buckets for the poisonous keyword all throughout the run).

It was pretty stinking awesome. One of the highlights of the expac for me so far.

Hey guys,

I have a repeating issue and was wandering if anyone knows about a possible fix...

Each time they release an update or patch all the assets, golden animation and sounds, disappear. Its a real pain to download all of it over and over again.

I play on mobile, iPhone. 

Thanks. 

So I've been trying to make Jr. Tomb Diver work in heroic, but so far I've been unsuccesful both due to not getting any secrets in my buckets and relatively weak decks. I got Advanced Targeting Monocle a couple times now and based on the wording, it should work with Jr. Tomb Diver, but I haven't been able to test it unfortunately (I have never been able to draw or play both cards before I won or lost). However, I thought the same thing of Mysterious Tome, but I was able to confirm that it does not count towards jr. tomb diver's requirement.

So before I choose Advanced Targeting Monocle again and get disappointed after it turns it doesn't work with Jr. Tomb Diver, have any of you been able to confirm how this interaction works?

New game launched yesterday. Seems to have great reviews. Anybody here tried it?

Hey everyone! Like a lot of you I switched to this site when I first heard about the split.

On occasion I would still check out hearth pwn to see how it was doing. After awhile, when I would go there on mobile, I would almost always get redirected by some spam pop-up thing where I would be on a new page saying ive won something. I cant even click back to return to where I was. This happens almost everytime I go there and eventually I just stopped trying. Never had a problem like that on this site!

This happen to anyone else? 

now some of you might have already discovered this, but for those of you who haven't

DO NOT CONCCEDE ON THE FINAL BOSSES. THEY WILL NOT RETAIN THEIR HEALTH IF YOU DO

I had to learn this the hard way when i brought one to 1 HP on Heroic, planning to finish him off later with Finley...but when i conceded he just went back to 192.

if you want to soften up a boss to finish him with a different hero....well you better kill yourself

EDIT: nvm, it's actually just f**ing bugged. It doesn't matter whether you concede or get killed (or you the Hearthstone). my boss is just stuck at 192 HP permanently now for no reason. Small indie company indeed

EDIT 2: checked the forums, it's only affecting the second plague lord and it's apparently fucked on a deeper level as it will not only forget damage taken but also sometimes create random HP numbers. Only way to beat it currently seems to be oneshotting it. Hopefully they'll hotfix it.

DON'T TRY TO PLAY CHAPTER TWO. YOU'LL WASTE YOUR TIME

EDIT 3: As of today the issue was fixed with a patch. Everything should work fine now.

Just curious. If there were to be 60 cards mode, would you play it or not? I would like to see that implemented because Hearthstone has little to offer when it comes to game formats.

I usually build a basic frame around ideas I get then ask the people for options to test.. 

This time it's a blank page and a challenge: build a quest hunter deck trying to get as many Queen Carnassa as possible. Minimum of 3 and you don't even have to play them all- just get a lot.

Little tip: Zul'jin replays The Marsh Queen  

After testing the vault quest I realised it's not as exciting as paying a 5 mana 8/8 and seeing the raptors rush to your deck.

Excited to see if anything good pops up.. I got a deck but Ill share later.

So I'm going to be playing Classic WoW as a priest with 4 other friends being Alliance side and on a PVP server.
I've played multiple private realms so I know what I'm in for with classic.

I have a raiding background but I'm not going to be spending enough time to be doing any top tier raiding.
I'm planning to do PVP, run high-level dungeon content and some minor raiding.

I'm pretty torn between whether to play Human or Nightelf 
My argument for Night Elf is that some of the players in my group haven't played since Cata or have only ever played for a short time, they get the general hang of it but there will most likely be some accidental pulls here and there.
I want to be ready for any possible wipes with Meld and ress,wether out in the world or in the dungeons.

For Human I like their tasty 5% spirit, desperate payer is sweet too - but I really don't want to be kicking myself every time we have to do a run back to our corpses.

Let me know what you think :)

Hi,

does anyone know if there is a bonus to get offered a bucket again, if you pick it? I feel that there are a lot of buckets that, whenever I try to go for them, I just don´t get offered them again and it is completely worthless. Like Kingsbane bucket, Cthun, and so on - they don´t mesh well with anything else, and you kind of pick them dreaming of the perfect insane theme deck, but it very rarely seems to comes together for me.

Also, how do you approach those kind of buckets? Do you like to try to go for them sometimes, or do you just pick solid ones that are easy to combine with other random stuff? 

I´m asking for Tombs of Terror, but I am sure it is the same as the Great Dalaran Heist. And I generally play on the difficult mode, which is something to keep in mind. 

If I'm not mistaken, cards on this site used to appear with blank backgrounds behind the card text, and now they correctly show the set icons like the real cards do. I think this is a recent change, and if so, congrats to the crew for the update. Maybe a small thing, but I noticed and I think it improves the look and accuracy of cards.

Is it just me or is the "Reply" button on mobile version of the site (I'm on android) bugged? It always leaves normal comments at the bottom of the thread instead of replying under selected comment. It did it to me twice now and it felt really stupid. It discourages me to reply anymore, is there at least an alternative way of doing it?

Sorry if there was another thread on this issue, I found none yet!

Just fought the second plague lord for the first time and was almost able to kill him with my 35 attack Phaoris' Blade. Then he played Spreading Madness while he had 3 health and I had 1 (+some big minions on the board). Props to the AI for playing to his outs I guess? lol

Regardless I've been having a lot of fun with the tombs of Terror so far, feel free to share your crazy experiences as well. :)

Just thought I would post this for fun and to help out if anyone finds themselves annoyed with the final Murlock Boss. He has 300 health and you can technically go back and fight him over and over until you beat him but I got incredibly lucky with my Treasures on my first attempt and was able to take him out in one shot. The key cards were Runaway Gyrocopter as seen in the screen shot below and Titan's Ring (I think that was the name...gives all your minions +1 Health and Taunt). I could have finished the Murlock off many many many turns earlier but I wanted to see his deck and if he had anything unique in it other than "Fill my board with Murlocks every turn.". Turns out...he doesn't. lol. But yeah, if you get the Runaway Gyrocopter as a Treasure option take it, as it is invaluable on the final boss as it overs consistent non-stop board clears.

Take care.

As seen in HSreplay and Hearthpwn, both sites have their individual card database maintenance softwares for players and I have to admit that it's extremely helpful for players wanting to build specific decks from the site.

I have seen the "Your Cost" column in out of cards and would just like to request the team to put up the card database software as soon as possible. The decks put up here are super impressive and I'm sure many players like myself who play on a tight budget would like to know how much dust they would need to spend on building a certain deck.

Thanks very much in advance.

As seen in HSreplay and Hearthpwn, both sites have their individual card database maintenance softwares for players and I have to admit that it's extremely helpful for players wanting to build specific decks from the site.

I have seen the "Your Cost" column in out of cards and would just like to request the team to put up the card database software as soon as possible. The decks put up here are super impressive and I'm sure many players like myself who play on a tight budget would like to know how much dust they would need to spend on building a certain deck.

Thanks very much in advance.

... quite healthy actually. I find myself rather surprised to discover that 6 out of 9 classes have an overall positive winrate (according to hsreplay), and 5 of those 6 are extremely closely matched. And even the three classes that are overall less than 50% winrate still have at least one good deck available that is above 50%. All I can say is that I'm pleasantly surprised. 

Long story short: played against a lot of Quest Shamans and could beat most of them with a variety of pretty average decks, except of course when they just happen to have Mogu Fleshshaper + Mutate on turn 3-4 and just completely highroll you with no counter whatsoever.

I'M not saying Quest Shaman needs to be nerfed in any capacity at this point, but if there's one thing that would drastically axe its winrate it's probably that very combo.

It's just an autowin against any deck that relies on beating them on board and it doesn't help that you don't even have to overcommit to be punished by it. It's essentially MCT but instead of playing around it by having only 3 minions you need to play around it by having no minions whatsoever, because if there are 4 minions on the board by turn 3 you lose the game (unless you are blessed by Hir'eek himself)

This is basically just another symptom of the Conjurer's Calling epidemic because Blizzard refuses to acknowledge that high-cost cards that can reduce their cost to be play on early turns are just broken in combination with cards that take mana cost into account.

If they fixed this interaction by having cards "remember" their played cost when they hit the field, we wouldn't have had to nerf CC and MAge wouldn't be dead right now.

I feel like there needs to be a "refreshing" of the daily quests - not so much the gold (though more would be great obviously) but just the quests themselves are feeling a bit stale and don't really "add" much usually. So am curious if anyone has thoughts on new quests they'd like to see and what quests would you be happy if they removed forever?

My additions would be more around deckbuilding goals. They already have the "play 6 pirates"/"play 6 cards that cost 8 or more"/etc. so I think they should expand on that to keep the flavor going on each expansion and to encourage using the new cards. This already happened once with Witchwood with "I Can't Even/The Odds Are Against Us" for even/odd costed cards, so it's a shame that seems to be the only time they've ever tried that. So for example on Boomsday they could have added 50g -"magnetize 5 Mechs" or 60g - "create a Magnetized mech that's at least a 10/10", SoU they could have 60g - "complete 4 quests" or 80g "defeat your opponent before they complete their quest". That type of thing.

As for what I'd love to see go, the "Win X Games With [Classes]" needs to be buried forever for two main reasons: 1) I don't have data to support this, but my strong belief is that for most people who don't tend to a play a class they get the quest for, they just grab the strongest netdeck they can build and jump in Casual to complete their quest. This sucks when I'm trying to meme it up in Casual and run into say Murloc Paladin. I've actually friended a few people over the years that have done this and most have actually said that's why they were playing a T1 deck in Casual - to complete their quest as fast and easily as possible or becuase they were new to the game and it was the only way they'd be able to do it. 2) Again totally anecdotal but whenever I get this quest I cannot seem to STEAL the win(s) needed to complete it. This is the genesis of my creating this thread today - Win a game with Rogue quest, so I'll just use my Quest Rogue I have a 51.4% win rate with. Oh look at that - I lost 5 games in a row before finally getting a win. This happens so much I cannot stand it because it just feels extra bad to lose when "there's something on the line" so to speak.

So what does everyone else think? Good ideas for new quests? Quests you want burned to the ground?