I would advise against it. If you only play standard you're probably better off buying packs of the latest standard set. The reasoning is that the conversion from dust to card is always worse than opening the desired card directly. There are seven sets in wild at the moment, even assuming that it doesn't take ten packs for each set to get the "first ten" legendary, on average you'd spend probably 3500 gold to get the 2800 dust, plus whatever change you get from the remaining cards. I haven't done the math or calculated the probabilities for the rarities, but I would be surprised if you'd come out much better than a 1:1 gold to dust ratio. So for your 3.5k gold you'd barely get more than two new cards to play with.
Especially with Descend of Dragons coming out today, I think it is much better to buy those packs, you'll get more cards to keep in your collection and play with, and fewer cards you need to craft, plus some dust.
How could he play wild until now i really wonder. He says he started in Witchwood. He never collected wild cards before. He probably have Genn or Baku and wants to play wild.
I wanted to not read after i saw "If you are only playing standard".
Also, he will see his collections going wild in time, if he don't start to collect some in time for wild, it will be more hard in time to collect with more cards and if he says he wants to play wild now, he will probably want more when his cards keep going wild. After 4 month, most of his collection will rotate.
Something is about will and what people wants, People don't want always the best answer. If he wants to play wild tell him how he should buy and how he should make collection for wild.
So @OP, Yes buy at least 10- until you find a legendary and buy them how i described above. buy one after open one keep going until you find a legendary and praise the rng god that it gives you legendaries at first packs ! :D After that and at mid-expansion, you might buy more according to your gold management. If you play arena and you are good; you can even buy more to expand your collection !
Finally finished explanations and added some more tokens that I forgot to add.
I will add upgraded versions of melodies in a week, it seems i didn't saved them permanently so their links died, couldn't find them so I will make them again and with the DoD coming, it might take time. :)
But the value of veterans or exclusivity is also in how hard something is/was to earn.
Something that just requires you to be in the right place at the right time could FEEL exclusive, but it is NOT VALUABLE at all.
I repeat, while i understand in principle, we should also look at the substance of things. Tyrande was not hard to earn, she was basically free, it has no golden age trait (ie beta players), so her value is little to none.
This is not 1k portraits given for free to everyone.
limited-time means "impossible to earn anymore" no matter how easy it was to obtain so "Impossible to obtain now" makes it valuable. "was" from now.
1k portraits are meaningless. They are at lesser tier after basic ones. Everyone will obtain those in time.
And yes; In my eyes, the most valuable piece of my collection is golden Gelbin Mekkatorque but it is not guaranteed that blizzard won't give it away to keep others in the game after Ragnaros card back and Tyrande Skin. The point is this already.
Also Gelbin Mekkatorque also wasn't hard to obtain but it doesn't change the truth that it is one of the rarest cards of the game with Golden Elite Tauren Chieftain. People might not give value for them but it's valuable for me and I'm sad that I couldn't obtain Elite Tauren Chieftain because Blizzcon 2013 was in a different country but never whined about it.
But refunds are given for objective value. Not subjective.
Limited amount of time doesn't necessarily mean never again.
Should we get a refund every time a favourite deck falls in meta tiers?
No, we should not.
I already said my last words about the situation on the post that is 2 above of your post so There is no meaning to discuss anymore I guess.
@All people who follows this thread, please read it.
Didn't think "common" hints card rarity and thought like a cultist might be common while it summons a legendary with their call. 7 cultists are pretty common afterall :P :D
Death Knight cards which E.T.C. The Prince produces will be same with The Lich King and Arfus.
Rhythms can stack; For example If you play Brewmaster Bard twice, When your opponent's turn starts, it restores 2 health then 2 health again. It also counts as "2 ongoing rhythms." for their synergetic cards that does something for your amount of ongoing rhythms such as Larithalis.
Targeted rhythms will be random. For example If you play Brewmaster Bard on your hero, It may restore 2 health for your opponent when rhythm triggers.
Rhythms works like this; For example, you played Rhytmic Shot, it dealt 2 damage to your opponent, you've ended the turn, your opponent's turn started, it dealt 2 damage to your enemy again, your opponent played their turn, your opponent ended the turn, then you played your turn, you ended your turn, your opponent's turn started, it dealt to damage again, your turn, opponent's turn, 2 damage again. So; 1 copy of Rhytmic Shot deals 8 damage totally in a single use without another cards or spelldamage.
Rhythm cards can't be upgraded by spelldamage. Spelldamage only apllies the spells first use. For example; Rhytmic Shot's damage would be upgraded to 3 if you have spelldamage +1 but when Rhythm triggers while you have spelldamage +1, they won't be upgraded.
There are 2 forms for each Choose one minions normally, so Butterfly Ballet changes Wardruid Loti or another choose one minion that has more than 2 forms to another form randomly.
Tame the Beast is a targettable and non-targetable spell at the same time but it is useable only when you don't control any beasts. You can only target it to an enemy neutral beast. If there isn't a neutral beast on the board, it summons a neutral beast on your side of battlefield but if there is a neutral beast on the battlefield at your opponent's side, you can't use it to summon a random neutral beast and you always need to not control any beasts to be able to use this card.
Water Sorceress will give you a minion discover always, just its spell generation needs unspent mana crystal.
Arcane Cadance won't repeat if your maximum mana is 2. Also, it won't repeat if you use your mana before using it.
Arcane Cadance's target isn't random, it will deal damage your first target when it repeats.
When Nozdormu the Timeless starts the game over, it will be only for you. It will add all of the used cards to your deck (included itself). Your hand will be the same with your mulligan after you play Nozdormu the Timeless with coin if you have it on start. It will also add a copy of itself to your deck without its battlecry. It will be 10-mana 8/8 minion. Your deck will be shuffled and your draws will not be the same. Discarded cards will also be added to your deck aswell if you discarded some. Your life total will be set to 30 if you increased it before and you will be healed if your health is below 30. If you changed your hero power, it will be set to basic one of your class and you will lose any buffs of Start of Game. So you will start the game again without Baku the Mooneater's, Genn Greymane's effect and also 5 random legendary cards won't be added to your deck if your deck has Prince Malchezaar. If you used a hero card, it will also be added to your deck and your hero will be set the basic one(skins will stay :D) with your hero power.
Hourglass of Time works like [herocard]Toki, Time-Tinker[/herocard]'s hero power; Temporal Loop
Exorcism silences ALL deathrattle cards; Weapons included.
Giveable keywords are status keywords. Poisonous, Windfury, Divine Shield, Stealth, Rush, Charge, Taunt, Spelldamage +1, Lifesteal, Reborn and Mega-Windfury(if you are lucky enough).
Immune cannot be given to minions via "give a random keyword" mechanic.
Spelldamage +1 is stackable. If you give it a minion with Spelldamage +1, it will be Spelldamage +2. same with 2-3-4.
If "Can't be targetable by spells or Hero powers" and "Can't Attack" will be keywords in some day, They can be also given to minions by "give a random keyword to a minion" mechanic.
Lute Pupil can cast upgraded melodies, same with Illidari Lead Guitarist, All targets will be random.
After using Wrathion, The Black Prince, your hero can only deal damage to attackers if you are weapon-equipped.
Orcish Horror Tale deals damage for both overloaded mana crystals. If you have 2 from last turn and 2 from ongoing turn; it will deal 6 total damage with its Overload:(2).
Xia, Queen of Suffering's "spent health" means damaging your hero on your turns. I have texted it like that because of room issues.
When you played Satyr Flutist, There will be 2 options like Choose one cards to pay mana or health.
When you played Mistress of Ceremonies if there are 3 ongoing Rhythms for example, all will trigger twice when your opponent's turn start.
Seduction will make your minions swap with opponent's minions. Every minion swap sides with the minion in front of it. If there is no minions in front of them, they won't swap. If there are not equal amount of minions, Your or Your opponet's right-most minion won't swap sides.
When you play Khaz'Goroth, it won't give you armors from Battlecry effects. Same with Tess Greymane. It will only summon minions that gives you armor but won't trigger their battlecry.
When you play Arcanite Ripper your ongoing Rhythm:(3) will change into Rhythm:(4) for example. Same with when it unequipped.
Val'kyr Partygoer can give you any card that kills it. If a spell kills it, it adds that spell ,If it dies by a hit from a minion, it adds that minion. If a weapon kills it, it adds that minion and if a hero power kills it, it adds that hero power to your hand as a spell with its cost.
Discovering a Melody can give you Neutral Melodies.
Warning ! Playing a Humming Bird to an empty board and ending the turn will kill it instantly unless you give it charge.
Tuskarr Announcer triggers battlecrys randomly.
Voodoo Mistress can give you only Rhythm:(X) cards not all of the cards with rhythm text.
Upgraded hero powers via Incorrigible Fan is same with old upgraded Hero Powers.
I present you Year of the Peacock ! Yes; a Peacock ! Which represents the great Festival year of Warcraft Universe !
Our beloved Peacock which gives the name to year is this handsome Sholazar Peacock !
These festivals are completely custom. It doesn't contain the existing festivals like Fire Festival, Lunar Festival, etc. and each expansion of the year is a Festival.
I am not good with photoshop programs or sth. like that so I couldn't create custom images for my year icon or images about year but If anyone can help I won't refuse. :)
So; Here is the 1st expansion of the Year; Harmony of the Spheres !
Everything starts with a great concert of Elite Tauren Chieftain (ETC) in Early April which you will see all of the members of this great band !
At first concert of them there will be "The Prince"; so players who joins a concert in first 30 days of the expansion by Log-in game will get the awesome E.T.C. The Prince legendary card for free !
When you play it There will be 3 options such as; And then these options for their representative mana costs There are more than 3 and you can choose from 3, so they will appear randomly, I thought that can balance the card;
You will choose thrice like Kazakus; Firstly the mana cost, secondly 1 effect and then another effect for each representetive mana costs.
0-mana 4-mana 8-mana
With one of the Class Legendary Card that is a source of inspiration! which I will explain more in this post.
As you can see here; We have a brand new keyword, Rhythm;
You already saw some synergetic cards so I will show some real examples here;
(Deathrattle rhythms can only trigger after the deathrattle triggers, If Deathrattle minions are silenced, Rhythms can't trigger because there will be no effect to trigger.)
And there is more with Rhythm cards; There will be some Melody Cards that will be upgraded when a rhythm triggers for every class;
and There is also more ! There will be 6 Neutral Melodies in the set ! All are collectibles and not tokens so you can put them in the deck of whichever class you want !
All of the classes have their own theme with one of their Source of Inspiration Legendaries. There will be also one performer for each class.Themes are all about entertaining; While Hunters are Journeyer Bards and Circus Masters, Warriors have badass Metal Bands and Warlocks even rule Brothels !!!
Here is some examples of Source of Inspiration; All of them are similar to Quest cards but there is no-more dead first turns ! You will play your cards and they will be available when you complete the restrictions.
ETC had been in need of sponsorship for their concerts and asked Baine Bloodhoof for it. He kindly accepted the sponsorhip of the Festivals and will join you after you opened your 30th HofS pack ! (Hoofs would be funnier tho so you may call it as Hoofs !) Additionally, Everyone who buys one of the pre-order will obtain a golden Baine Bloodhoof !
There will be 136 brand new cards in this expansion and It is time to see all of the cards.
Sidenotes for Mage and some other cards:I have started to design this expansion in Rise of Shadows times so didn't know that Druid will have same unspent mana synergy and thought that it would fit more in mage so that was really great surprise to see same synergy in druid for me. You will see that in some neutral cards and other class cards that some of them are weak versions of Uldum cards and some of them are same with DoD cards (Nozdormu for example). I didn't change them yet but I might change them in time.
Druid Cards
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Druid Tokens
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Druid of the Antenna Unblessed Disturbance
Hunter Cards
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Hunter Tokens
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Sandrine
Mage Cards
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Mage Tokens
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Paladin Cards
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Paladin Tokens
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Nozdormu The Timeless Lightforged Harp Goofy Newcomer
Priest Cards
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Priest Tokens
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Rogue Cards
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Rogue Tokens
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Shaman Cards
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Warlock Cards
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Warlock Tokens
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Larithalis Xia, Queen of Suffering (starts with Whiplash)
Warrior Cards
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Warrior Tokens
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Chop'n Crush Drummer
Neutral Cards ETC Members(Wanted to Highlight these guys because They inspired me to design this expansion, everything started with them and you know, it is ETC :) )
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Chief Thunder-SkinsTokens
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Not a member but He is "The Prince" :) E.T.C. The PrinceTokens
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There will be 2 extra legendaries instead of 2 commons. I know it makes the expansion more expensive but I already gave 3 legendaries for you so it won't be a problem I think :)
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Neutral Tokens
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Sciolist Busker
I know that there are so much weak cards and overpowered cards in this expansion. I'm not a master at balancing so I will appreciete all of the balance suggestions if you have some !
Also, There might be so much inconsistency in texts, Some wrong wording and Not so cool names of cards. English is not my main language so if you find something odd, tell me I will try to correct all of them. :)
I will be designing next expansion of the Year of the Peacock !
I hope you see my creations and like them ! There will be some explanations in the post below ! If you don't understand what card does/or have some questions after you saw some mechanics, Don't forget to check that post !
Since there are only 2 cards that has pure paladin synergy; That card might work as a tech card to make your deck pure when you need it, also against Bad Luck Albatrosses if it will be popular against highlander decks.
I think the people who already own tyrande shouldn't be upset about other people owning tyrande, and they also shouldn't ask for compensation or ask for sympathy that their skin isn't exclusive anymore or anything else. People shouldn't worry about what other people have, Blizzard told you that if you have amazon prime then you will get the skin, so you signed up for a free trial and got the skin. And now, you still have the skin, and that should be enough for you. It shouldn't matter that other people have the skin now, it should only matter that you still have the skin, just like you were promised.
Here is a story to help illustrate my point:
There was a man who owned a field, and he was looking to hire some people to work in the field. So he went into town at around nine o'clock and found some people not doing anything so he said to them "come work in my field and I will pay you two silver coins". They agreed and they started working in the field. Then he did the same thing at around noon, and three. At five o'clock he found some men not doing anything and he asked them "why are you not working?" they said "because no one has hired us" so he said "go work in my field, and I will pay you two silver coins". So they agreed and went to work in his field. Then at the end of the day the man called in all of the workers from the field so he could give them their pay. He started with the ones who were called last, and ended with the ones who he called first. When the workers who were called first saw that everyone else was being paid two silver coins, they thought they would get more because the worked longer, but they were still paid only two silver. They were angry and said '‘These who were hired last worked only one hour and you have paid them the same as us who have been working all day". He answered them "I am not being unfair to you. Didn’t you agree to work for two silver coins?Take your pay and go. I want to give the one who was hired last the same as I gave you.Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?".
You agreed to start a free amazon trial and fake your location to get tyrande, and you got exactly what you were promised. Don't be upset that other people got the same thing for less, you got this skin for a fair price, and that should be enough for you.
I have brought another argument here and I've changed my thought a bit after some consideration.
When you think about free packs from Twitch Drops, it is same with Tyrande deal, at least similar but they are not country-only deals so all people can attend to be a part of those giveaways. After they end, Noone will have a reason to whine because they are free to attend. People don't have reasons to deserve compensation and others don't have reasons to whine about why they didn't get.
So, to end this discussion; I guess we all agree that The first Prime deal which gives the skin is unfair at the first place.
This move of Blizzard tries to correct that unfairness (with a wicked way tho, I still think that they use Tyrande Skin as a weapon). All will have this shiny skin.
What really upsets me is that People who don't have the skin still can't wish good things for people who owns the skin while People with skin wishes that they 're glad they are finally getting the skin and people still doesn't understand this topic is not related personally with them or any other community member, it just addresses a company's move. I still think that I can't accept how Blizzard do this but it's ok now when I think about Twitch Drops.
At the end, I will keep my issue about Blizzard and won't support them for Hearthstone because of the Card back Issue and the way they give Tyrande skin + the marketing policy about Hearthstone but I can understand now why you think we don't deserve compensations (Twitch Drop example of the beginning of my post). Maybe I didn't lose anything, You too; but blizzard lost me with this wicked and tricky move; that's the truth. (maybe it is not so important for them that I'm a single guy tho but I really hope that some anothers also think like me and stops supporting hearthstone. This thread's aim is this afterall.)
Even though there were some flames, toxic discussions (by me or by others) I think that this discussion had great sides. I hope you got my point of view since I can consider some other ways of considering after some intelligent discussions.
I really can't believe and it really upsets me how people still thinks that I don't want them to get skins for free tho. I don't even tell about anything like that.
Anyways; Even you think that I'm the most selfish person in the world and acting like the most important thing in my life is this Tyrande Skin, I honestly will continue to say that I hope you will enjoy how I enjoyed Tyrande and love to use her quotes however you want.
Congratz to all that didn't obtain the skin before.
Almaniarra: Honestly I'm really asking this not being snide - Is this whole thread a piece of performance art on how many downvotes you can collect with a single unpopular opinion?
I legitimately cannot fathom being this adamantly upset about someone else getting a free, fundamentally useless cosmetic. It's not like you paid forit and now others are getting it for free, or other people are getting packs/legendaries that actually have an impact on the game, or whatever. It's a hero skin and a card back - something nobody will see 95% of the time when you're playing any hero besides Priest or anyone who doesn't use this particular card back on the deck you're playing.
After million times that I explained myself; how can't you still understand that it doesn't upset me to others getting a free skin ?
What you guys don't understand (which I highlighted it always as you willingly misunderstand just because of being able to refuse the truth behind we deserve a compensation) is "it doesn't upset me to others getting a free skin".
I said it million times; it doesn't justice, it is just reality ! BUT it is the truth so I can't change it; I just opened the thread to express my feelings and what I did decide to do and suggest people the same thing as I did that stop paying time-limited content of Hearthstone because Blizzard takes advantage of this and make them free in time and still defending that; Blizzard tricks people to make some content time-limited, it is wrong (not unsuccesful but wicked and tricky) advertising in my opinion.
(We already got hinted at a minion, a pirate and release in 2016 [WotoG, Kara, MoG], it should be somehow weapon-related and capable of hitting big targets)
Show me a weapon, I will obey - This line says "I'm a pirate"
Sharpen your blade and let me hurray! - To be able to activate my battlecry, buff your weapon (hurray here means attack like a attacking shout; HURRAAAAAYY ! ; yaaarrrr! would be so easy =) )
Show me the hunt that you want to slay - This has no hint but binds the line below
No common blades for a bulky prey - common blades (which is Rogue HP) don't help me kill bigger minions with my 5/5 stats for 6 mana, let me be 9/9 for 6 mana to kill fat guys.
deck aims to shit their draw and make them draw useless 1-costs to have silly moments you don't wait a win-condition here.
Think that like a mill deck. You want to make your opponent fatigue to death. This deck wants to make opponent draw nothing useful but 1/1s. to make them mad.
Win condition is this.
Necrium Apothecary also can only bring Albatrosses because it is the only deathrattle minion so I don't think that you can't draw albatrosses.
It is not a general empathy tho. It is empathy for this case and something appeared just because people's attitude and answers.
It is in this order;
me: "I want you guys to obtain the skin but if you are obtaining it, I deserve a compensation, don't I". people: "no you fucking loser ! We deserve that skin ! You did nothing to obtain it ! " me: "Look; I already want that skin for you, can't you show some empathy towards me in this situation ?" people: " No way ! You can't deserve a compensation just because you are in the right place in the right time ! " me: "So people, listen me, I did that mistake before, I want to suggest you not support the game about limited time content like me just because there is a possibility that they might trick you too." someone: something: "something, something, children's card game, something, you are giving so much value to a gif, something !!!@@!!@!!" me : " something, something, flame, something, insults, something, toxic, something !!@!@!@" people: "STFU ! We don't need a losers suggestion, That was your fault to be tricked at first place !" me: "Ok thanks for the discussion, I've gained something here and fuck y'all ! " people: "Thanks ! Some of us also gained something and Fuck you too ! " at the end we all: "Some off-topic example arguments!"
I actually read the whole post and I don't think that is an accurate representation of how it went down. I know you are obviously simplifieng and exaggerating to get your point across. However there was a fair share of arguments made, like how you weren't really tricked since it was never clearly said tyrande would never be available again, it was discussed if people who already own her should get compensation, people from both side gave different opinions and so on. Of course there are always people who insult and bring the children's cards game-argument, this is the internet after all. But I think there where a lot of points made in this thread, it seems that there are more people happy about tyrande coming back than people who feel cheated. Yet you are not alone, but you are the minority. If you think you can convince everyone to think like you and feel for you, then you will be disappointed. Most people mainly care about themselves and don't show empathy for strangers, especially if they are in different circumstances than they are and especially especially if they are some what anonymous on the internet. Don't keep pushing, you are fighting windmills here buddy.
I am already saying that I really gained something in this discussion. I am not pushing anything.
Also true that, not saying anything can't be lying. So Blizzard's not saying that Tyrande might come back can't make it exclusivity a lie.
I am %90 sure of that at first revealed, Tyrande was prime-exclusive after so much whines because people likes the skin so much Blizzard changed their mind and threw it in a pool as a weapon "if we lose consumers in some time, we can use it to bring back them."
Anyways, really tired of explaining stuff. I had opened the forum because of sharing my custom created expansion today while responding other answers but can't even complete to add explains and all the cards because of trying to explain myself and respond to this thread and I didn't have time to do so and a bit frustrated to discuss this long.
I might not respond anytime soon here.
For people I upset, sorry for that but know that you also upset me, I don't upset people unless they are attacking me and for people who discussed it in healthy way, thanks all for your comments, I've learnt and gained something here, I hope you gained too but if you say "meh, you can't add me anything." That's also ok.
I find it funny that every single post upset by the lack of compensation for the people who already owned Tyrande is getting downvoted into oblivion. Here, on Reddit, everywhere. You have to add a 'I'm glad you guys are getting her too' disclaimer to any post that touches this subject or else you're just gonna get spammed with red arrows. I think this shows how small of a minority the Tyrande owners actually are, in which case it really boggles my mind, why not offer a compensation in the first place? When I heard that Tyrande will be free with the arrival of a new $10 hero, I honestly thought Sylvanas will be given for those that don't apply, but hey apparently not.
On one hand I really am glad more people will be able to switch out of Anduin, as I don't give two hoots about exclusivity. But on the other hand, I do feel like I earned her: by being a long-time customer, paying attention to Hearthstone-related news, and spending a full two hours learning and troubleshooting the process of getting her since I was not part of the eligible countries either. Others got Tyrande by buying an overpriced code off eBay and whatever too. It's really, really not that far-fetched to want this effort to be acknowledged, and I'm sure more people would be able to sympathize with this situation if they didn't see any criticism of it as selfishness and entitlement, which in most cases it certainly is not.
Then again at the end of the day we're still all arguing about .jpg's, so what do I know.
The effort was acknowledged, though? You got to use this portrait while others could not. For over 3 years you got to use a skin that wasn't available for others. It is only now that this also becoming available for others again, and again for only a limited time (I assume) so in future there will be people who own the skin and people who don't.
I do understand that people that already own the skin feel like others are getting something for free here while they are not, but I think they are forgetting that they had something for years which others could not optain but maybe really wanted. As it was stated before in this thread blizz apparently never claimed that Tyrande never came back(I never checked that though, only relying on others), so one can't really argue that they lied or tricked people and therefore should compensate with packs, a different version of a existing skin or whatever(maybe a little "I play this game longer than you" button to add to your side of the board? ^^)
On the other hand I would not have a problem if they gave you guys free packs, but we know how blizz feels about giving packs away for free… But that is another topic.
In conclusion I think that people who already own tyrande should try to remember that they had access to a cosmetic that others could not obtain, which is apparently really important for some people, for three years. That is a good thing you guys had. However things always change, the demand for tyrande was high and blizzard decided to give a lot of people what they want but could get before(for different reasons). So nowothers get to enjoy this too, which means that you might feel a little less exclusive about owning that portrait now, but on the other hand a lot of people will be really happy to be able to play with her in the future(like me :D)
btw, if it is time limited again ( I really don't know about this and don't think also) it might cause newer players to whine more which brings new situations on the table.
I don't think blizzard wants more people whines about tyrande anymore in future so they should do at least free for everyone in everytime this time which is also sounds ridiculous that the only available skin of the game is Lady Liadrin by playing WoW for 20 levels.
So, what is the anduin's meaning at the first place then ? Make Tyrande basic skin if you will give it away whoever joins the game.
Situation here is more ridiculous than I thought. It is horns of a dilemma. If you will give Tyrande any time to anyone, there is no meaning Anduin at all but if you won't give, people who doesn't own might whine in future again.
I don't understand the complaint of not getting any compensation for this. We've known Tyrande would be returning for a long time now; your 'compensation' is having been able to use Tyrande for the years before other players could.
I got Tyrande during the Twitch Prime promotion, and have happily used her quite a lot since then. Now other players are finally able to use her, which is great. Nothing about this scenario means anything bad for me; I don't lose anything, all that happens is other people gain. There's no reason for me to gain anything. I already got the gain years ago.
Actually, I don't want a compensation. I just want people who doesn't own the skin be able to want a compensation for me like how I want the skin for them. That's why I am trying to answer any comments here to make my point clearer. Even If I'm a collector and like rare stuff, I like relationships more like any other human-being but It seems noone wants to show that empathy for me.
I just wanted to see some empathy. That's all.
I already did whatever I can do for compensating it for myself, stopped supporting hearthstone and suggested people to not support Hearthstone by learning from my mistakes. That's all i can do and i did it. My conscience is clear enough.
Wait what? At first you said you only want to complain to blizzard because they tricked you. Then you said you would be fine if everyone gets the skin, as long as it is different from yours (in other words you don't want everybody to get the skin you already have). Now you say you actually do want for everyone to the get skin, you also don't want compensation, but you want other people to want a compensation for you. Because you want empathy? I am thoroughly confused. Not really sure what you goal is here, but if you are really looking for empathy, maybe a internet forum about a ccg isn't the best place.
Also we understand you wont be supporting hearthstone any more, you don't really need to put it at the end of every response.
Ok I won't repeat it. I was doing that because people might comment without reading all of the posts so I am explaining it again to the people who I quoted.
It is not a general empathy tho. It is empathy for this case and something appeared just because people's attitude and answers.
It is in this order;
me: "I want you guys to obtain the skin but if you are obtaining it, I deserve a compensation, don't I". people: "no you fucking loser ! We deserve that skin ! You did nothing to obtain it ! " me: "Look; I already want that skin for you, can't you show some empathy towards me in this situation ?" people: " No way ! You can't deserve a compensation just because you are in the right place in the right time ! " me: "So people, listen me, I did that mistake before, I want to suggest you not support the game about limited time content like me just because there is a possibility that they might trick you too." someone: something: "something, something, children's card game, something, you are giving so much value to a gif, something !!!@@!!@!!" me : " something, something, flame, something, insults, something, toxic, something !!@!@!@" people: "STFU ! We don't need a losers suggestion, That was your fault to be tricked at first place !" me: "Ok thanks for the discussion, I've gained something here and fuck y'all ! " people: "Thanks ! Some of us also gained something and Fuck you too ! " at the end we all: "Some off-topic example arguments!"
I really wondered why he changed the art of Learn Draconic to happy reno instead of worried one. Worried one fits more I think.
Also I would prefer 3rd concept among all for Transmogrifier. That seems more transmogrif-y than an assassin.
Also I appreciate that they didn't decided to last concept of Umbral Skulker since she looks like more Demon Hunter than a Rogue but there are some nice concepts there.
and I would advise;
If you buy with gold buy 1 open 1 buy 1 and open 1 until you find a legendary.
Don't make it like buy 10 / open 10.
How could he play wild until now i really wonder. He says he started in Witchwood. He never collected wild cards before. He probably have Genn or Baku and wants to play wild.
I wanted to not read after i saw "If you are only playing standard".
Also, he will see his collections going wild in time, if he don't start to collect some in time for wild, it will be more hard in time to collect with more cards and if he says he wants to play wild now, he will probably want more when his cards keep going wild. After 4 month, most of his collection will rotate.
Something is about will and what people wants, People don't want always the best answer. If he wants to play wild tell him how he should buy and how he should make collection for wild.
So @OP, Yes buy at least 10- until you find a legendary and buy them how i described above. buy one after open one keep going until you find a legendary and praise the rng god that it gives you legendaries at first packs ! :D After that and at mid-expansion, you might buy more according to your gold management. If you play arena and you are good; you can even buy more to expand your collection !
Finally finished explanations and added some more tokens that I forgot to add.
I will add upgraded versions of melodies in a week, it seems i didn't saved them permanently so their links died, couldn't find them so I will make them again and with the DoD coming, it might take time. :)
I hope you enjoy.
I have added all of the cards, I hope you check and enjoy how I enjoyed while I was designing it !
There will be more expansions to come for Year of the Peacock ! You can check here sometimes if I added them or not.
Also There will be explanations in the post above. You can also check there because some cards need to be explained.
No, we should not.
I already said my last words about the situation on the post that is 2 above of your post so There is no meaning to discuss anymore I guess.
@All people who follows this thread, please read it.
Mogu Cultist ?
Didn't think "common" hints card rarity and thought like a cultist might be common while it summons a legendary with their call. 7 cultists are pretty common afterall :P :D
Explanations
So; 1 copy of Rhytmic Shot deals 8 damage totally in a single use without another cards or spelldamage.
Hello Guys; Welcome to my year long story;
I present you Year of the Peacock ! Yes; a Peacock ! Which represents the great Festival year of Warcraft Universe !
Our beloved Peacock which gives the name to year is this handsome Sholazar Peacock !
These festivals are completely custom. It doesn't contain the existing festivals like Fire Festival, Lunar Festival, etc. and each expansion of the year is a Festival.
I am not good with photoshop programs or sth. like that so I couldn't create custom images for my year icon or images about year but If anyone can help I won't refuse. :)
So; Here is the 1st expansion of the Year; Harmony of the Spheres !
Everything starts with a great concert of Elite Tauren Chieftain (ETC) in Early April which you will see all of the members of this great band !
At first concert of them there will be "The Prince"; so players who joins a concert in first 30 days of the expansion by Log-in game will get the awesome E.T.C. The Prince legendary card for free !
E.T.C. The Prince works like Kazakus;
When you play it There will be 3 options such as;
And then these options for their representative mana costs There are more than 3 and you can choose from 3, so they will appear randomly, I thought that can balance the card;
You will choose thrice like Kazakus; Firstly the mana cost, secondly 1 effect and then another effect for each representetive mana costs.
0-mana
4-mana
8-mana
With one of the Class Legendary Card that is a source of inspiration! which I will explain more in this post.
As you can see here; We have a brand new keyword, Rhythm;
You already saw some synergetic cards so I will show some real examples here;
(Deathrattle rhythms can only trigger after the deathrattle triggers, If Deathrattle minions are silenced, Rhythms can't trigger because there will be no effect to trigger.)
And there is more with Rhythm cards; There will be some Melody Cards that will be upgraded when a rhythm triggers for every class;
and There is also more ! There will be 6 Neutral Melodies in the set ! All are collectibles and not tokens so you can put them in the deck of whichever class you want !
All of the classes have their own theme with one of their Source of Inspiration Legendaries. There will be also one performer for each class.Themes are all about entertaining; While Hunters are Journeyer Bards and Circus Masters, Warriors have badass Metal Bands and Warlocks even rule Brothels !!!
Here is some examples of Source of Inspiration;
All of them are similar to Quest cards but there is no-more dead first turns ! You will play your cards and they will be available when you complete the restrictions.
ETC had been in need of sponsorship for their concerts and asked Baine Bloodhoof for it. He kindly accepted the sponsorhip of the Festivals and will join you after you opened your 30th HofS pack ! (Hoofs would be funnier tho so you may call it as Hoofs !)
Additionally, Everyone who buys one of the pre-order will obtain a golden Baine Bloodhoof !
There will be 136 brand new cards in this expansion and It is time to see all of the cards.
Sidenotes for Mage and some other cards: I have started to design this expansion in Rise of Shadows times so didn't know that Druid will have same unspent mana synergy and thought that it would fit more in mage so that was really great surprise to see same synergy in druid for me. You will see that in some neutral cards and other class cards that some of them are weak versions of Uldum cards and some of them are same with DoD cards (Nozdormu for example). I didn't change them yet but I might change them in time.
Druid Cards
Druid Tokens
Druid of the Antenna
Unblessed Disturbance
Hunter Cards
Hunter Tokens
Sandrine
Mage Cards
Mage Tokens
Coming soon
Paladin Cards
Paladin Tokens
Nozdormu The Timeless
Lightforged Harp
Goofy Newcomer
Priest Cards
Priest Tokens
Coming Soon
Rogue Cards
Rogue Tokens
Coming Soon
Shaman Cards
Shaman Tokens
Coming Soon
Warlock Cards
Warlock Tokens
Larithalis
Xia, Queen of Suffering
Warrior Cards
Warrior Tokens
Chop'n Crush Drummer
Neutral Cards
ETC Members (Wanted to Highlight these guys because They inspired me to design this expansion, everything started with them and you know, it is ETC :) )
Chief Thunder-Skins Tokens
Not a member but He is "The Prince" :)
E.T.C. The Prince Tokens
0-mana
4-mana
8-mana
There will be 2 extra legendaries instead of 2 commons. I know it makes the expansion more expensive but I already gave 3 legendaries for you so it won't be a problem I think :)
Neutral Tokens
Sciolist Busker
I know that there are so much weak cards and overpowered cards in this expansion. I'm not a master at balancing so I will appreciete all of the balance suggestions if you have some !
Also, There might be so much inconsistency in texts, Some wrong wording and Not so cool names of cards. English is not my main language so if you find something odd, tell me I will try to correct all of them. :)
I will be designing next expansion of the Year of the Peacock !
I hope you see my creations and like them ! There will be some explanations in the post below ! If you don't understand what card does/or have some questions after you saw some mechanics, Don't forget to check that post !
See you in the next Expansion !
There is also Wyrmrest Purifier;
Since there are only 2 cards that has pure paladin synergy; That card might work as a tech card to make your deck pure when you need it, also against Bad Luck Albatrosses if it will be popular against highlander decks.
I loved the Purifier Paladin flavor so much.
I have brought another argument here and I've changed my thought a bit after some consideration.
When you think about free packs from Twitch Drops, it is same with Tyrande deal, at least similar but they are not country-only deals so all people can attend to be a part of those giveaways. After they end, Noone will have a reason to whine because they are free to attend. People don't have reasons to deserve compensation and others don't have reasons to whine about why they didn't get.
So, to end this discussion; I guess we all agree that The first Prime deal which gives the skin is unfair at the first place.
This move of Blizzard tries to correct that unfairness (with a wicked way tho, I still think that they use Tyrande Skin as a weapon). All will have this shiny skin.
What really upsets me is that People who don't have the skin still can't wish good things for people who owns the skin while People with skin wishes that they 're glad they are finally getting the skin and people still doesn't understand this topic is not related personally with them or any other community member, it just addresses a company's move. I still think that I can't accept how Blizzard do this but it's ok now when I think about Twitch Drops.
At the end, I will keep my issue about Blizzard and won't support them for Hearthstone because of the Card back Issue and the way they give Tyrande skin + the marketing policy about Hearthstone but I can understand now why you think we don't deserve compensations (Twitch Drop example of the beginning of my post). Maybe I didn't lose anything, You too; but blizzard lost me with this wicked and tricky move; that's the truth. (maybe it is not so important for them that I'm a single guy tho but I really hope that some anothers also think like me and stops supporting hearthstone. This thread's aim is this afterall.)
Even though there were some flames, toxic discussions (by me or by others) I think that this discussion had great sides. I hope you got my point of view since I can consider some other ways of considering after some intelligent discussions.
I really can't believe and it really upsets me how people still thinks that I don't want them to get skins for free tho. I don't even tell about anything like that.
Anyways; Even you think that I'm the most selfish person in the world and acting like the most important thing in my life is this Tyrande Skin, I honestly will continue to say that I hope you will enjoy how I enjoyed Tyrande and love to use her quotes however you want.
Congratz to all that didn't obtain the skin before.
After million times that I explained myself; how can't you still understand that it doesn't upset me to others getting a free skin ?
What you guys don't understand (which I highlighted it always as you willingly misunderstand just because of being able to refuse the truth behind we deserve a compensation) is "it doesn't upset me to others getting a free skin".
I said it million times; it doesn't justice, it is just reality ! BUT it is the truth so I can't change it; I just opened the thread to express my feelings and what I did decide to do and suggest people the same thing as I did that stop paying time-limited content of Hearthstone because Blizzard takes advantage of this and make them free in time and still defending that; Blizzard tricks people to make some content time-limited, it is wrong (not unsuccesful but wicked and tricky) advertising in my opinion.
yeah it is Luckydo Buccaneer;
Show me a weapon, I will obey - This line says "I'm a pirate"
Sharpen your blade and let me hurray! - To be able to activate my battlecry, buff your weapon (hurray here means attack like a attacking shout; HURRAAAAAYY ! ; yaaarrrr! would be so easy =) )
Show me the hunt that you want to slay - This has no hint but binds the line below
No common blades for a bulky prey - common blades (which is Rogue HP) don't help me kill bigger minions with my 5/5 stats for 6 mana, let me be 9/9 for 6 mana to kill fat guys.
Your go ! :)
not that one either.
another hint; it came in 2016.
deck aims to shit their draw and make them draw useless 1-costs to have silly moments you don't wait a win-condition here.
Think that like a mill deck. You want to make your opponent fatigue to death. This deck wants to make opponent draw nothing useful but 1/1s. to make them mad.
Win condition is this.
Necrium Apothecary also can only bring Albatrosses because it is the only deathrattle minion so I don't think that you can't draw albatrosses.
searched for a bit and yes I got it wrong but yeah that was pretty old and exclusive to the country for that time.
That's impossible to know if you are not interested tho. :D
I am already saying that I really gained something in this discussion. I am not pushing anything.
Also true that, not saying anything can't be lying. So Blizzard's not saying that Tyrande might come back can't make it exclusivity a lie.
I am %90 sure of that at first revealed, Tyrande was prime-exclusive after so much whines because people likes the skin so much Blizzard changed their mind and threw it in a pool as a weapon "if we lose consumers in some time, we can use it to bring back them."
Anyways, really tired of explaining stuff. I had opened the forum because of sharing my custom created expansion today while responding other answers but can't even complete to add explains and all the cards because of trying to explain myself and respond to this thread and I didn't have time to do so and a bit frustrated to discuss this long.
I might not respond anytime soon here.
For people I upset, sorry for that but know that you also upset me, I don't upset people unless they are attacking me
and for people who discussed it in healthy way, thanks all for your comments, I've learnt and gained something here, I hope you gained too but if you say "meh, you can't add me anything." That's also ok.
tribe is correct but sadly not this card too.
btw, if it is time limited again ( I really don't know about this and don't think also) it might cause newer players to whine more which brings new situations on the table.
I don't think blizzard wants more people whines about tyrande anymore in future so they should do at least free for everyone in everytime this time which is also sounds ridiculous that the only available skin of the game is Lady Liadrin by playing WoW for 20 levels.
So, what is the anduin's meaning at the first place then ? Make Tyrande basic skin if you will give it away whoever joins the game.
Situation here is more ridiculous than I thought. It is horns of a dilemma. If you will give Tyrande any time to anyone, there is no meaning Anduin at all but if you won't give, people who doesn't own might whine in future again.
Hahah ! So funny it sounds.
no sadly, for the hint it is a minion and think it like the card says the riddle not me.
Ok I won't repeat it. I was doing that because people might comment without reading all of the posts so I am explaining it again to the people who I quoted.
It is not a general empathy tho. It is empathy for this case and something appeared just because people's attitude and answers.
It is in this order;
me: "I want you guys to obtain the skin but if you are obtaining it, I deserve a compensation, don't I".
people: "no you fucking loser ! We deserve that skin ! You did nothing to obtain it ! "
me: "Look; I already want that skin for you, can't you show some empathy towards me in this situation ?"
people: " No way ! You can't deserve a compensation just because you are in the right place in the right time ! "
me: "So people, listen me, I did that mistake before, I want to suggest you not support the game about limited time content like me just because there is a possibility that they might trick you too."
someone:
something: "something, something, children's card game, something, you are giving so much value to a gif, something !!!@@!!@!!"
me : " something, something, flame, something, insults, something, toxic, something !!@!@!@"
people: "STFU ! We don't need a losers suggestion, That was your fault to be tricked at first place !"
me: "Ok thanks for the discussion, I've gained something here and fuck y'all ! "
people: "Thanks ! Some of us also gained something and Fuck you too ! "
at the end we all: "Some off-topic example arguments!"
I really wondered why he changed the art of Learn Draconic to happy reno instead of worried one. Worried one fits more I think.
Also I would prefer 3rd concept among all for Transmogrifier. That seems more transmogrif-y than an assassin.
Also I appreciate that they didn't decided to last concept of Umbral Skulker since she looks like more Demon Hunter than a Rogue but there are some nice concepts there.
Thanks for sharing this !