Interesting deck, but unfortunately 2x Katarina is too rich for my blood.
What are your thoughts on running 2/2/2 champions versus 3/3?
Sidenote: I have to say, as much as I like the gameplay, I have been disappointed so far at the amount of deckbuilding options for my F2P / 3 hours a day approach. I didn't expect to get as much as paying players and/or hardcore players, but I was hoping to have more options for budget construction at this point. Hopefully that will change Tuesday. :-)
Yeah tuesdays are so important. Also I was just lucky with 2x Katarina, got 1x from noxus capsule and 1x from expedition.
For 2/2/2 champions, some of them don't really be x3 in the deck. Katarina and Darius are examples. You can't even play 3x Darius in a game, even against control. 3x Darius would be a waste of deck slot. Same with Katarina. She already bounces back to your hand after every attack, She doesn't even die while attacking a 30/30. Reason of x2 copies are for only draw chances because normally x1 would be enough.
You can decide which champion is like that by looking their effect. You would like to have probably x3 of Ezreal or x3 Fiora but Tryndamere for example is not a x3 champion in my opinion.
I recommend you to play all(3) Expeditions until Tuesday to be able to collect champion cards. It will be also wiser even you don't like draft mode because it costs only 4000k Shards which Champion Wildcards is also same cost and it is guaranteed to get a champion card even you lose your drafts and Expedition runs will give you bonus experience points when you finish them.
Its ok if I don't do all 3 Expeditions by this Tuesday, right? I've tried, but they take so long and I'd rather take my time and enjoy myself than grind to squeeze every drop of XP possible.
Ofc, it is your choice. I just shared these because someone might want to gain all experiences and chances efficiently. :)
We have 3 free Expedition entries? I thought we got only one token.
I got double 7 yesterday it gave 3500 Shards + other rewards. So if you can go at least one 7 from one of your trials, it gives you another expedition chance + 500 Shards + other rewards.
Open Tracker. Click overwolf's icon on tray. Then UI will come to left side of the screen. Choose Legends of Runeterra deck tracker from there. Then Sign In on the opening window. You need to sign up on the site and then sign in on browser at first time too.
It works but tbh, it sucks, doesn't fit game's UI etc. I didn't like so i uninstalled it. I don't think we need deck tracker in this game. Maybe just usable for tracking stats by closing the deck pop-up, graveyard, enemy's deck etc.
win/lose xp are halved to 0 daily. There is a daily cap.
30 wins / 20 loses for against PvP
20 wins / 10 loses for against AI
Maybe you played more than these.
How does this work exactly? Does it count wins and losses separately? Because if this is the case, getting to 30 wins would encourage you to lose all your games afterward because you will only get xp for losses, which would be pretty weird.
They are separate. Also PvP and AI are separate too.
You can go normal game to surrender. Today my win rate was like %80 so I had to do like that. Join and surrender. I was doing AI loses just like "join and surrender".
Or you can just try weird decks on normal. It also gives you some creativity.
It's there so people won't get so many cards so fast, which is the problem with hs's solved metas.
Also, If there was no cap, people would do join-surrender abuse which will lead another problems. Cap is a need. I'm not a fan of caps either but I know that people would abuse the system. Also there is a fact that you can gain experiences from friendly challenges. It would take just 1 hour to complete all region rewards with a friend if there was no cap.
win/lose xp are halved to 0 daily. There is a daily cap.
30 wins / 20 loses for against PvP
20 wins / 10 loses for against AI
Maybe you played more than these.
so there is a hard cap after all I thought it was only soft capped.. oh well.. it's still much higher cap than in hs
This encourages you to play against ai to maximize rewards though.. that's weird.. at least make the AI interesting to play against.
@Xarkkal it's LoR not HS
Well, it took me 12 hours to be capped yesterday, I don't think I can play that long again. It was just for first day to test. So I don't think this is a real cap. You can't achieve that with 3 hours per day.
I’m honestly a little overwhelmed! HS is basicly the only CCG i got ever invested into. I’m so use to know what cards do, how powerfull they are and what might be a good synergy or counter.
The tutorial and first couple plays against the AI were amazing though! I didn‘t dare creating my own deck yet. Mostly because i got no feeling whatsoever for the different factions.
Any suggestions on how to get started?
The reward system seems endless by the way! 20 Levels of rewards per faction?! + weekly vault seems crazy.
Not sure i will get hooked for good with the Limited time i have but there is potential!
I have some suggestions in the Runeterra General section. You might want to check them :)
Thanks for the tips, I do have a couple questions.
Shouldn't we level regions to 7 instead ? The champ reward seems to be at this level (I did get Yasuo but it was on an epic loot so dunno).
Also, is there a way to disenchant cards or it's not permitted ? I usually focus on a narrow set of classes (here regions) but I'll be unable to do such a thing if I can't scrap the cards I'll not play :<. This can come awkward if your favorite tailored deck is nerfed (wanted to try Karma Braum first but the nerfs...).
Yeah, When I wrote this the game was not active so I wrote it how I remember, It should be exactly the 8th level. I've corrected in the OP. Thanks for warning. :)
Also, There is no disenchanting in the game but it seems we won't need it, I mean, I'm already maxed my Weekly Vault in two days. I don't know but it really seems quite reachable so quick to complete set in my opinion.
Yeah, Rhasa the Sunderer is one of the greatest cards of the set but unfortunately it doesn't help if some big threats like Tryndamere hits the board. What I mean is, The deck's aim is killing the opponent as soon as possible so you don't need him so much times but yes he can be added the deck :)
Thanks a lot - this answers to several questions I had :)
A few more:
- is there a limit / expiration date for wildcards or can I collect as many I want and keep until I am ready to use?
- which champions do you think are the best (and the worst, in addition for Teemo)?
- will "vaults" expire ? (i.e. if I cannot connect on tuesday, can i open it later in the week?)
Thanks
- There is no limit or experiation date for wildcards as I know. You can collect and stack how much you want.
- In my opinion Zed is one of the best because fits so much decks and archetypes. Worst is Teemo right now probably. That being said Karma is one of the worse ones too because she needs late game to be efficient but She is my favorite so I won't call her bad. :)
- Probably you can, I don't think they will expire. We don't know because we didn't play that long before :)
The Open Beta begins in less than 10 hours for players who pre-registered and who played in previews so I wanted to write some advices here for who couldn't follow news and couldn't play in previews.
Firstly, here is the countdown if you want to check how much times left to release.
Don't forget it is open beta state - There might be more aggressive tweaks/nerfs/buffs on cards so be cautious to craft cards and be cautious to choose your starting Region.
Firstly, You will play tutorial and Prologue and game will give you these starter decks;
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If you want, you can build some decks with these cards but for some time before some rewards, They will be ok while you are learning the game's mechanics.
After your prologue, it probably chooses Noxus for your region. If you want to change it, you can change it in regions tab.
Choose your region according to what you like to play. I mean, The Archetypes. Don't choose it for its power in my opinion because there might be some aggressive tweaks in a month because it is beta. If you want to go for aggro, you may choose Noxus or Shadow Isles, If you like combo style more, try Ionia or Piltover&Zaun, there are some fancy combo opportunities in Shadow Isles and Demacia (Fiora)as well but the other two has more resources for it, If you like control you can choose Shadow Isles or Freljord, Midrange is best with Demacia but all of the regions have great Midrange canditates except Piltover&Zaun, and lastly if you want ramp style Freljord will be your choice.
Also try to get 8 level in every region instead of focusing only one. There are Champion Capsules as a reward at 8th level for every region. It will also help you to collect some rares and commons of every region and you might build more efficient decks.
After you choose your region to start, it is time to play !
Weekly Vaults will be your main source to collect cards with your regional rewards and it will give you Expedition token if you reach 10+ level. With Open Beta, There will be also a free Expedition token at start. Don't forget to play your Expeditions with your token because up to 3 Expedition runs, you will get 1x Champion wildcard. Weekly, it will give you 3x Champion Wildcards if you play all. There will be no rewards unfortunately if you play your 4+ Expedition run.
Weekly Vaults will be reset at Tuesdays so play as much as you can until tuesday to be able to open at least level 10 Vault. Maximum Vault level is 13 but doing just daily quests will give you 10 level Vault according to what Riot said us.
You will be given experience points also for your losses until 20 lose and wins will give you experience until 30 wins. If you reach the cap, Play some AI games because AI games will also give you experience points and their experience points are seperated from versus player experience points. I really liked this because it makes us more happy to try some of our shitty decks on AI and we will get rewarded to doing so!
It will be like;
PvP - 30 wins - 20 Losses
PvAI - 20 wins - 10 losses
There will be no experience points after this moment. Only extra experience poins different from these are Expedition run's bonus experience so;
I recommend you to play all(3) Expeditions until Tuesday to be able to collect champion cards. It will be also wiser even you don't like draft mode because it costs only 4000k Shards which Champion Wildcards is also same cost and it is guaranteed to get a champion card even you lose your drafts and Expedition runs will give you bonus experience points when you finish them.
If you will buy wildcards with coins, don't hurry to craft some champions. Wait for a bit, because;
1- You might regret after a while
2- You might get what you want from Capsules (i'm saying this but there is no-duplicate rule in Runeterra for Champion cards and Epic Cards. The reason I'm saying this, You might want to save those Wildcards for future.
3- If you can be patient for 4 months and you are planning to buy all of the wildcards as you can in next weeks, you can save 48 champion wildcards for next expansion and that means total of 16 x3 champion wildcards. You can craft whichever champion you want from next expansion ! You just need to be patient and play like a f2p player at start while you are stacking those wildcards. Be Patient !
And don't take it serious but don't craft Teemo at start !
No, I'm serious ! Don't do that !
I am saying this because almost all people are planning to play hyper/normal aggro at first day and all of Teemo decks are vulnerable against aggro sadly except Full Elusive deck without puffcap cards.
There will be also some account statistics with deck tracker if you open an account on Mobalytics. Noone tried the decktracker yet so noone knows how it will be but it is the only one I know.
For a compensation, I can say this; Versus AI and Versus Player experiences are seperated from each other so you can continue to your grind against AI too. :)
Yeah tuesdays are so important. Also I was just lucky with 2x Katarina, got 1x from noxus capsule and 1x from expedition.
For 2/2/2 champions, some of them don't really be x3 in the deck. Katarina and Darius are examples. You can't even play 3x Darius in a game, even against control. 3x Darius would be a waste of deck slot. Same with Katarina. She already bounces back to your hand after every attack, She doesn't even die while attacking a 30/30. Reason of x2 copies are for only draw chances because normally x1 would be enough.
You can decide which champion is like that by looking their effect. You would like to have probably x3 of Ezreal or x3 Fiora but Tryndamere for example is not a x3 champion in my opinion.
Guys, you need to try this deck if you have cards. It made me Gold IV today.
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If you like you can replace 1x Trifarian Assessor with 1x Decisive Maneuver. I didn't have second copy of Decisive Maneuver so I'm playing with this.
You just need to pilot it so well against Ionia and sometimes swim's dawnspooders deck. Don't let your Atrocity Deny-ed.
Use Atrocity to only finish with Darius or Rhasa the Sunderer or Crowd Favorite or save yourself from lethal.
It's kind of heavy to pilot deck but if you have cards you can practice. It is also great start to practice Katarina.
Ofc, it is your choice. I just shared these because someone might want to gain all experiences and chances efficiently. :)
I got double 7 yesterday it gave 3500 Shards + other rewards. So if you can go at least one 7 from one of your trials, it gives you another expedition chance + 500 Shards + other rewards.
Open Tracker. Click overwolf's icon on tray. Then UI will come to left side of the screen. Choose Legends of Runeterra deck tracker from there. Then Sign In on the opening window. You need to sign up on the site and then sign in on browser at first time too.
It works but tbh, it sucks, doesn't fit game's UI etc. I didn't like so i uninstalled it. I don't think we need deck tracker in this game. Maybe just usable for tracking stats by closing the deck pop-up, graveyard, enemy's deck etc.
They are separate. Also PvP and AI are separate too.
You can go normal game to surrender. Today my win rate was like %80 so I had to do like that. Join and surrender. I was doing AI loses just like "join and surrender".
Or you can just try weird decks on normal. It also gives you some creativity.
Or just play Teemo. You will rarely win. lol.
Also, If there was no cap, people would do join-surrender abuse which will lead another problems. Cap is a need. I'm not a fan of caps either but I know that people would abuse the system. Also there is a fact that you can gain experiences from friendly challenges. It would take just 1 hour to complete all region rewards with a friend if there was no cap.
Well, it took me 12 hours to be capped yesterday, I don't think I can play that long again. It was just for first day to test. So I don't think this is a real cap. You can't achieve that with 3 hours per day.
No it isn't in my opninion. It might help you to collect more shards tho.
win/lose xp are halved to 0 daily. There is a daily cap.
30 wins / 20 loses for against PvP
20 wins / 10 loses for against AI
Maybe you played more than these.
I have some suggestions in the Runeterra General section. You might want to check them :)
Yeah, When I wrote this the game was not active so I wrote it how I remember, It should be exactly the 8th level. I've corrected in the OP. Thanks for warning. :)
Also, There is no disenchanting in the game but it seems we won't need it, I mean, I'm already maxed my Weekly Vault in two days. I don't know but it really seems quite reachable so quick to complete set in my opinion.
Yeah, Rhasa the Sunderer is one of the greatest cards of the set but unfortunately it doesn't help if some big threats like Tryndamere hits the board. What I mean is, The deck's aim is killing the opponent as soon as possible so you don't need him so much times but yes he can be added the deck :)
For Ravenous Butcher, You are completely right but for adding it, I need to give up LuicanBADCARDNAME Package with Senna, well, that's not what i want :) 3x Ravenous Butcher + 2x Rhasa the Sunderer + 1x more Crawling Sensation might be replaced with x3 Senna, Sentinel of Light and x3 Lucian. :)
After all of rng whines on every hearthstone related site and forum, it was really fun to see this comment.
lol, People really don't know what they want.
*** When sharing IDs, please include which shard you are on (i.e. Americas, Europe, or Asia). ***
Well I couln't find #id stuff at first so I think someone might have problems like me;
If you couldn't find your #id and your friend's #id here it is;
As you can see here; The golden EUW text is my #ID, when you hover over your profile picture in friend panel, it will show this screen.
So my full id would be; TitanlarınYavası EUW
Feel free to add me btw. :)
Edit: I have changed my id into TitanlarınYavaşı LoR
challenge also breaks elusive rule btw.
or maybe they were just elusive :) normal minions can't block elusive ones, like flying in MTG
My first refined deck will be this probably because of x2 Elise from starter packs;
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I hope you will try and like the deck. :)
- There is no limit or experiation date for wildcards as I know. You can collect and stack how much you want.
- In my opinion Zed is one of the best because fits so much decks and archetypes. Worst is Teemo right now probably. That being said Karma is one of the worse ones too because she needs late game to be efficient but She is my favorite so I won't call her bad. :)
- Probably you can, I don't think they will expire. We don't know because we didn't play that long before :)
Hello Guys !
The Open Beta begins in less than 10 hours for players who pre-registered and who played in previews so I wanted to write some advices here for who couldn't follow news and couldn't play in previews.
Firstly, here is the countdown if you want to check how much times left to release.
LoR Early Launch
First things first;
Don't forget it is open beta state - There might be more aggressive tweaks/nerfs/buffs on cards so be cautious to craft cards and be cautious to choose your starting Region.
Firstly, You will play tutorial and Prologue and game will give you these starter decks;
Deck ID Not Found
Deck ID Not Found
Deck ID Not Found
If you want, you can build some decks with these cards but for some time before some rewards, They will be ok while you are learning the game's mechanics.
After your prologue, it probably chooses Noxus for your region. If you want to change it, you can change it in regions tab.
Choose your region according to what you like to play. I mean, The Archetypes. Don't choose it for its power in my opinion because there might be some aggressive tweaks in a month because it is beta. If you want to go for aggro, you may choose Noxus or Shadow Isles, If you like combo style more, try Ionia or Piltover&Zaun, there are some fancy combo opportunities in Shadow Isles and Demacia (Fiora)as well but the other two has more resources for it, If you like control you can choose Shadow Isles or Freljord, Midrange is best with Demacia but all of the regions have great Midrange canditates except Piltover&Zaun, and lastly if you want ramp style Freljord will be your choice.
Also try to get 8 level in every region instead of focusing only one. There are Champion Capsules as a reward at 8th level for every region. It will also help you to collect some rares and commons of every region and you might build more efficient decks.
After you choose your region to start, it is time to play !
Weekly Vaults will be your main source to collect cards with your regional rewards and it will give you Expedition token if you reach 10+ level. With Open Beta, There will be also a free Expedition token at start. Don't forget to play your Expeditions with your token because up to 3 Expedition runs, you will get 1x Champion wildcard. Weekly, it will give you 3x Champion Wildcards if you play all. There will be no rewards unfortunately if you play your 4+ Expedition run.
Weekly Vaults will be reset at Tuesdays so play as much as you can until tuesday to be able to open at least level 10 Vault. Maximum Vault level is 13 but doing just daily quests will give you 10 level Vault according to what Riot said us.
You will be given experience points also for your losses until 20 lose and wins will give you experience until 30 wins. If you reach the cap, Play some AI games because AI games will also give you experience points and their experience points are seperated from versus player experience points. I really liked this because it makes us more happy to try some of our shitty decks on AI and we will get rewarded to doing so!
It will be like;
PvP - 30 wins - 20 Losses
PvAI - 20 wins - 10 losses
There will be no experience points after this moment. Only extra experience poins different from these are Expedition run's bonus experience so;
I recommend you to play all(3) Expeditions until Tuesday to be able to collect champion cards. It will be also wiser even you don't like draft mode because it costs only 4000k Shards which Champion Wildcards is also same cost and it is guaranteed to get a champion card even you lose your drafts and Expedition runs will give you bonus experience points when you finish them.
If you will buy wildcards with coins, don't hurry to craft some champions. Wait for a bit, because;
1- You might regret after a while
2- You might get what you want from Capsules (i'm saying this but there is no-duplicate rule in Runeterra for Champion cards and Epic Cards. The reason I'm saying this, You might want to save those Wildcards for future.
3- If you can be patient for 4 months and you are planning to buy all of the wildcards as you can in next weeks, you can save 48 champion wildcards for next expansion and that means total of 16 x3 champion wildcards. You can craft whichever champion you want from next expansion ! You just need to be patient and play like a f2p player at start while you are stacking those wildcards. Be Patient !
And don't take it serious but don't craft Teemo at start !
No, I'm serious ! Don't do that !
I am saying this because almost all people are planning to play hyper/normal aggro at first day and all of Teemo decks are vulnerable against aggro sadly except Full Elusive deck without puffcap cards.
And last ! There is already a deck tracker here;
Deck Tracker
There will be also some account statistics with deck tracker if you open an account on Mobalytics. Noone tried the decktracker yet so noone knows how it will be but it is the only one I know.
Well, I've finished now. Don't forget to check Open Beta Patch Notes and Open Beta Economy Updates !
Also, if you have any other advices, feel free to share here.
Good luck on your run and See you in Runeterra in 10 hours !
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I'm f*****g blind !
For a compensation, I can say this; Versus AI and Versus Player experiences are seperated from each other so you can continue to your grind against AI too. :)
Source from a respnse of a Rioter