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Almaniarra

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    HearthStationeer 1000 1509 Posts Joined 03/21/2019
    Posted 5 years ago

    Cards like Fate Weaver, Grave Rune and so much removal including Galakrond itself and Lazul's whole theme with Galakrond's hero power; I guess blizzard wants us to play only Combo and Steal Shaman Priest(Sorry).

    Considering they are not giving a real win condition to priests and keeping only Inner Fire/Divine Spirit they want probably make those meme-y epics that is mentioned below viable.

    Actually, there are some win conditions with Leeroy Jenkins/Grave Rune and Fate Weaver with Inner Fire/Charge comboes but I really want something more creative than Inner Fire for future priest. Ok, class identity something, Priest buffs, something but Inner Fire really bores so much after those years.

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    HearthStationeer 1000 1509 Posts Joined 03/21/2019
    Posted 5 years ago

    Galakrond Shaman will be more famaous for shaman lists for sure rather than spell damage/dragon decks but I personally think that Squallhunter is more fearsome than Flamewreathed Faceless because of its synergy and dragon tag.

    There is not more of dragon buff cards but shaman have murloc package and there is [Hearthstone Card (tasty fylfish) Not Found] which can buff Squallhunter into 7/9. It might be a sleeper tempo play in shaman lists but i think that Galakrond hype left it in the shade.

    Dragon/murloc tempo Shaman might even be a think tbh. Skyfin + Tasty Flyfish + Some Dragons + Some spells are enough to do that with bloodlust. Ah and there is also Underbelly Angler. I will make a deck around those guys.

    Surging Tempest + Tasty Flyfish + Skyfin + Squallhunter remembers me that Tunnel Trogg + Totem Golem + Flamewreathed Faceless times so much. Do you know what this means; Shamanstone.

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    Posted 5 years ago

    + Mogu Cultist.

    I have even made a deck here. :D

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    HearthStationeer 1000 1509 Posts Joined 03/21/2019
    Posted 5 years ago

    Yeah cringe, ok.

    When you realize that there is nothing to win, it is easy to call anything bad. Sorry, it was not a contest.

    Block the thread already , I already made my point.

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    Posted 5 years ago

    exactly !

    Now I'm hoping that they(we, :P) will get a card reveal in next expansion. :)

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    Posted 5 years ago

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    I am playing the game also and don't mind those system because they stated that those contents will come back with every event. It is not same with Tyrande situation. They didn't say there will be more offers like that. All of the overwatch players knew that they will come available again.

    There is nothing wrong with my ability. You are just keep wearing "I'm a sensitive guy" suit and keep acting like a fan-boy. Maybe you are not a fanboy I don't know you but that's truth that you are acting like one.

    There is a mistake from a company, wrong advertisement etc. and you keep defending it. There might be only two reasons for that, being a fan-boy or strained sensivity like how people do for animal-rights.

    They are not irrelevant btw; how you act against for all of those "irrelevant examples" shows how your personality shapes around them. Strained sensivities, histrionics, fear of social exclusion, social influence or concerns about not being approved, all is same how much you say that they are irrelevant from this thread.

    It is exactly the same with Tyrande's situation because they never mentioned that Tyrande would be a Twitch prime exclusive deal. You assumed she would be. That is entirely on you. You can blame me for that. You can blame Blizzard for that. You can blame the entire goddamn world for that. But you are the one who interpreted it the way you did. And now you're upset because of it. Wonderful.

    Wrong advertisement my ass. You have not once shown even the slightest shred of evidence that proves they said Tyrande would be a one time only deal. 

    I am not defending Blizzard, because there is nothing to defend. You're literally arguing with your own assumptions. 

    I've gone ahead and ignored all the pointless drivel you, again, put in your post. If your next reply contains more of this pretentious psychologist analysis I will no longer respond, because you're far too deluded at that point. 

    Friendly advice: give this discussion a rest. If a petty cosmetic truly upsets you this much then please heed KANSAS' advice and take a break to sort yourself out.

    As I said above, I am not trying to win some shitty discussions here. I am just trying to make you understand my point. That's why I said that because yes, you are willingly refuse all of the arguments here.

    You are doing it again, it is obvious that you are not friendly towards me and writing "Friendly" before your note. How can't this be strained sensivity or a concern about not being approved ?

    I don't care how much people disagree with me because I am not trying to win anything here unlike how you do just because of being approved., Go argue in any other thread here and win all arguments that you can find and got approved by all community and pat your ego. I fucking don't care.

    I've just said why I decided to stop buying Hearthstone's limited time content and suggest people to do same. THAT WAS ALL.

    This ain't a discussion and it is not my most important thing in my life. That doesn't mean it is the most important thing just because I'm speaking about it here and just because we can't agree. If it is really that unimportant, so why are you still here and discussing it ?

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    Posted 5 years ago
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    Well i do understand the point in the OP.

    But at the end of the day, it's just cosmetics.

    If you spent money on it, you would have anyway, even if they told you it would have been freeware in some years time.

    You wanted it, you bought it. That's it.

    Exclusiveness is never eternal.

    And the value of cosmetics is just that which you give them. Because nobody cares of the cosmetics of their opponent.

    That's a personal thought and taste which I can't argue.

    I like something special, in-games mostly and when I saw them on another in the game, I think like "hey, a collector like me, how cool ! " and Tyrande won't be rare anymore. That's sad for me.

    Anyway, I have expressed/explained myself enough, I presume.

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    Posted 5 years ago
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    I mean at this point this thread has no point anymore. You obviously just wanna argue your point despite the fact almost everybody disagrees with you.

    point is learning from my mistakes. If you still want to buy limited-time content just because they are limited-time, go buy them but don't cry amywhere anymore after you saw this thread.

    I left buying those, and suggesting you to not buy here. At least for Hearthstone. The point of this thread is that.

    Are You guys always trying to win in threads ? There is nothing to win. I have shared my experiences and how I thought, if you learn from here, it will be for your own goodness, if you don't, it is your loss.

    There is nothing to win here and I'm not trying to win some shitty discussions. I've replied as much as possible just because to make you understand my point, not for winning discussions.

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    Posted 5 years ago

    damn, was it that easy ?

    gratz ! your turn.

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    Posted 5 years ago
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    Oh my gosh everybody just chill it is only a cosmetic and it means absolutely nothing.

    Write a post as a long as you want but you cannot ignore the simple fact that the skin means nothing, I really don't see any reason for you to be this angry as to quit Hearthstone entirely, simply because blizzard didn't give you something special for having started playing the game sooner.

    The fact that; The most-loved ones of you, your family, means nothing to me.

    Things mean nothing to someone might be everything for anothers.

    Brief and to the point.

    If this skin means everything to you then you need to get out more and find a boyfriend/girlfriend, get a hobby/job, and stop worrying about what you look like in a video game

    You can't even understand what you read and the "exampling" really. Yeah The most important part of my life is a 32-kb Gif. Nothing to talk with you (edit:in this thread ofc, lol, I don't strike an attitude just because of we couldn't agree here).

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    I just want to throw out there that Blizzard has explicitly said, many times, that Tyrande would be available again. That's why Tyrande returning was such a big announcement, because they were finally making good on their promise.

    She has never been a Twitch exclusive; at best she was a timed exclusive for Twitch, and there was no reason to believe otherwise.

    This seals it then. Blizzard wasn’t on the wrong here, @Almaniarra. You, as the buyer, have no one to blame but yourself.

    I remember it like Blizzard said that after so much people whines about it so it was a limited-time content at first. I didn't care just because I already decided to not buy hearthstone related content anymore after Ragnaros card back case.

    So, it didn't change my mind, I will continue to not buy Hearthstone related content.

    But yeah, I won't buy anything time-limited from any other company too just because of this fucking situation. There is no guaranteed stuff in world really, at least, I have learnt from my mistakes.

    Sidenote: I am already blaming myself but discussing here only blizzard's part. I know I have also been mistaken but blizzard is mistaken too.

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    Posted 5 years ago
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     it surely is a letdown when you pay for something and later on everyone gets it for free.

    To be fair no one paid for Tyrande: it was a gift included in Amazon Prime, so if you happened to have it (and let's be honest: you don't have Amazon Prime for a HS skin) then you could have claimed it.
    Moreover, even if you suggest to make her available in the same conditions, now you can have a free month of Prime, so it's just easier to give her away for free.

    But I really want to make this clear: Tyrande was a gift limited to some countries and no one directly paid for her.

    On the other hand (just so you get the situation I'll use the example you wrote in your comment), Lazul was a skin tied with an 80 $ bundle which was limited in time, so giving her away for free would be unfair; but I wouldn't see anything wrong if they just put her in the new store for the usual price, maybe after a few expansions though

    1) I really can't understand how you can't understand those are same.

    2) You can't obtain if you don't have a credit card and free-trial membership. 

    3) Also, I know other guys in my friendlist who lives in those countries and normally don't use Twitch prime but got it just because of Tyrande skin.

    4) I am just saying that the way how Blizzard did is wrong for people who obtained this skin before. Make it available to all but make its hero power non-golden for example, that's a way.

    5) There are so much ways to make it available as making people who owns the skin happy but Blizzard did this in wrong way again.

    1) I can't understand it because they're not the same.
    We can say that you even cheated ("I just used a VPN and fake address to be able to obtain Tyrande") and it costed you because you wanted that skin so much, but  I'm not here to talk about people's behaviors, whether correct or not. Let's just talk about the facts.
    This event came in a certain time and (again, unless you want to do some shady shit) in certain places: in order to get Tyrande, you had to be an HS player (for example, Twitch Prime gives you so many gifts for games I couldn't care less), you had to live in a certain country and you had to have Amazon Prime (or being in a free trial). This is nothing but a discriminatory promotion (yeah, it's a word that doesn't fit this subject at all, but I hope you got the point), which penalized players, let's say, from Greece that were playing the game at the time and even had a Prime sub. It was clear that who thought this event didn't figure out Tyrande would have got so much success. That's why, when making a promotion, now Blizz tends to lock skins behind a paywall, so that no one will claim them afterwards (see the Thunder King). 

    On the other hand, Lazul (with Rastakhan, Neltharion, Elise and so on) are obtainable only if you pay loads of money: there's no other way around, since they're not part of a promotion with a partner. You want them? Take your wallet and give it to Blizz. In this case you spent your money for that sole purpose and so people shouldn't get those skins for free. Will they return in the future? Maybe, but only behind a paywall, which is how things should be.

    Tyrande being a gift coming from a partnership means that, with her, you even got a month of Amazon Prime (which was the ultimate goal of the promotion after all). If you paid for something that even at that time could have been free just because you wanted it no matter what (shady shit) then it's normal that now you're butthurt. I'd be too. But that's not Blizzard's fault.

    2) we are almost in 2020, c'mon man do you really want to hit me with that argument? You don't have access to a credit card (yours, your parents',...) but you can play HS? C'mon maaaan

    3) People doing shady things doesn't make them less shady.

    4) So you want like different skins for a single skin? Did I get it right? Cause if it's so it's fucking dumb.

    5) Does that mean that Blizz should make people that will obtain the skin in one or two days less happy just to make those who got it before happier?
    It's a fucking GIF in a game bro, calm down. You want to be exclusive at other people's sake, which I have to say is pretty sad, if not pathetic.

    You really are still saying "it is a fucking gif c'mon man".

    and no, I don't want different skins for a single skin. Different versions doesn't mean seperate ones. I have 1 green tyrande for example, you have 1 blue tyrande, I don't own blue, you don't own green. Like that. Simple.

    it's 2020 or 2150, it doesn't matter. You can't buy payable features without it. Think about a kid like 14 years old. He doesn't have credit card and his parents don't let him use it. Could he buy that skin? No. That's simple too.

    It is same with any other pre-order skins. IF they can give other limited-time content, It is not guaranteed that they will others too. What I'm saying here and point it out here is this. So, Let's speak after if they gave any of the pre-order skins freely and say that "it's ok". Just because of this, I stop paying to hearthstone content because it is not guaranteed that they won't give for free the content what I've paid for and opened a thread to express my concerns and warn people. It is that simple too. Simple. NOT COMPLEX.

    You are still arguing that as calm down, it is a fucking gif, shady shit, people can obtain etc. etc. etc.

    It is not the most important part of my life just because we are arguing this in this forum and spent time to do so. We are defending our thoughts here so it might seem so important to you. I don't care. I just wanted to warn people about buying limited-time contents of Hearthstone and how it is not guaranteed and they are just simply trying to trick you as they are limited and if you want to buy packs, go buy them but don't pay for limited-time only contents.

    If you don't want to learn from my mistakes and experience it by yourself, go on, do it. I am not holding you. It was just for your own goodness. If you don't need it, Don't ever write here. Why do you even care ? when Blizzard gave Lazul, Rastakhan, Thunder King, Deathwing, Mecha-Jaraxxus or any skins that you bought, You will already understand me. There is nothing to say. You guys are simply willingly refuse.

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    Posted 5 years ago
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    Oh my gosh everybody just chill it is only a cosmetic and it means absolutely nothing.

    Write a post as a long as you want but you cannot ignore the simple fact that the skin means nothing, I really don't see any reason for you to be this angry as to quit Hearthstone entirely, simply because blizzard didn't give you something special for having started playing the game sooner.

    The fact that; The most-loved ones of you, your family, means nothing to me.

    Things mean nothing to someone might be everything for anothers.

    Brief and to the point.

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    Posted 5 years ago

    Stand united in Dragonblight,

    With our Light, They will fright !

    The loud shout of the righteous knight

    Will bring more to sacred fight.

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    Posted 5 years ago

    rly ? no way !

    Don't make me check them twice again ! :P

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    Posted 5 years ago

    Honestly, this title means more than packs.

    I've checked twice all of the threads of cards. I am more addicted to this kind of achievements more than valuable ones. :)

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    Posted 5 years ago
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    1. Subjective. OP wants to show his veterancy, Blizzard provided it. OP is still complaining.

    2. #1

    3. And not everyone wants to abuse a flawed system or were even aware of that flaw. This time everyone can obtain it legitimately but of course there's a bunch of entitled people who need to feel superior to others with a bloody cosmetic.

    Btw, Blizzard can do small change by switching (mirroring) Tyrande. Old account will have blue one and all accounts will have green one. Everyone is happy.

     

    I can't agree more with this.

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    Fair enough, warning people against buying Blizzard’s content is a valid reason, especially if they did lie on the marketing. I still think there’s no positive side in changing the skin because of it; the way I see it, the argument you’re making is still valid if the HP wasn’t golden. You’re still getting tricked into spending money for practically the same product.

    I agree that the “limited time” argument makes sense here, since the advertising of a limited time offer would possibly persuade you to buy something you maybe wouldn’t have bought immediately. But it still doesn’t make sense on the card back example you gave at the start of the thread.

    Yeah, card back example isn't same but looking like, true that.

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    Posted 5 years ago

    Congrats all !

    I hope you got tons of Legendaries !

    Yay, I am Draconically Dedicated from now on ! :)

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    Posted 5 years ago
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    I said something similar to your opinion about the return of the Rag. card back and I'll say it again here: there is absolutely nothing special about the people who already own the Tyrande hero. There was no true effort involved in obtaining it. You just signed up for Twitch prime and, if from one of the regions where she was not available, lied about where you were. I guess you also linked your Twitch and Blizzard accounts. That's all you had to do.

    Having the Tyrande hero means nothing other than that you happened to have been playing HS during the time she was available and were aware of the few small steps you had to take to get her. In my mind that is not something that gives you bragging rights or any reason to want other players to be unable to use her or have some superficial tweak as though the original is more special in some way.

    Now if Blizz were to hand out golden heroes or 1000 win portraits to everyone, or card backs that actually took a bit to effort to earn e.g. through heroic single player content or competitive play, then yes I'd take issue with that. But those take time and genuine effort, not 2 minutes and a few jumps between different websites.

    It's about that already. I don't normally care for skins.

    It's not about people who will obtain the skin. I've just felt tricked to buy Twitch/Amazon Prime. It would be same if now they decide to give King Rastakhan to everyone for free because I don't buy normally pre-orders. I like more to buy packs if I really need packs and I've just pre-ordered Rastakhan's Rumble just because of the skin.

    People never understand or even are never trying to understand this complaints are not about them. I decided not to buy any of the hearthstone content anymore because of this shitty move of blizzard because I just knew that in Ragnaros card back times because it was the first move that I don't like and I've said under that article it is not guaranteed that they won't give other time-limited contents anymore and Tyrande skin is proof of that. I've ended up right at the end of the day.

    I still didn't buy any of the pre-orders since that time and won't buy any in-game content with real money anymore. I've just tricked by blizzard and wanted to open a thread to express my feelings to warn people who plans to buy limited-time in-game content from blizzard about they are not limited anymore.

    It is same with how you will feel tricked if blizzard gives 1000-win portraits and heroic adventures to everyone. At the Ragnaros card back times, people defended blizzard by saying the exact same thing as you by saying "you don't spend any effort to gain that cardback". Now you are using this argument to defend this situation here. How ironic.

    I feel tricked by blizzard and other players are personalizing the situation here. I don't care who you are or what you will obtain. I care only that I'm tricked by blizzard and won't buy any of the hearthstone content anymore. That's all. I will continue to play the game but won't support the game. I will watch it lose consumers and die in time and I will try to persuade people to not buy hearthstone content anymore. At least I will make it for my family and friends.

    I am not even adressing people who doesn't own Tyrande skin. Stop personalizing the situation.


    Thing is, I don’t understand why are you mad at Blizzard.

    Yes, you chose poorly when you decided to buy Tyrande. I get that - if I buy something that is later given out for free, I’ll feel stupid for buying it, and feel like I wasted my money for nothing.

    But how is that Blizzard’s fault? They don’t owe you anything just because you made the decision to buy their skin. You could have an argument if they specifically marketed that the product wouldn’t be offered again/for free. But they didn’t say that, so the way I see it you only have your own judgment to blame.

    I definitely get the desire to not buy their content anymore - it’s been shown to be an unwise decision. But I don’t think there’s anyone you should be angry at.

    Finally a sane argument;

    I think its Blizzard's fault because they advertised it as "Special offer for only Twitch/Amazon Prime" like how they are advertising pre-order skins as "pre-order exclusive.".

    I've bought Prime just because of Tyrande so I think i have a reason to blame blizzard.

    I've bought Rastakhan's Rumble pre-order just because of obtaining King Rastakhan. I will be tricked twice if they gave it or make it available to buy again for 10$ for example because normally I wouldn't buy that 40+$ pre-order but bought it because of the skin and if i didn't buy that skin with pre-order I would be able to buy it with less money. (that's arguable that I have also got packs but I didn't need those packs because I had enough golds to buy it ah that's also arguable too that I have saved those golds for next expansion tho.)
     
    anyways, I hope you got my point. I don't agree the argument; "it was your decision, blizzard is not responsible for this." I think that With me, Blizzard is also responsible for this by advertising it as an exclusive item and am thinking about it as I deserve a compensation or a difference between old tyrande skin and new one.

    I get your point, but did Blizzard specify the offer won’t return afterwards? If they didn’t, your impression then doesn’t really justify you being mad at them now. They didn’t trick you. As the buyer, it was your call, and therefore your responsibility.

    If they did, I still don’t think they should change the product to maintain exclusivity, because that would be unfair towards the people who buy the skin. Other people shouldn’t be negatively affected because Blizzard tricked you. The fact that you didn’t actually pay only for Tyrande, but for another benefit makes it a difficult situation for them: Blizzard can’t just refund every person that claims they only bought Twitch Prime because of Tyrande. It would mean they lied in their marketing though, so they would be on the wrong here.

     

    Also, I think it’s worth mentioning your argument about “older players” has no place here. We’re talking about paid vs. free, so the argument you’re making now is completely illogical in the card back situation, for instance.

    Older player argument was there because of its limited time. You couldn't own that skin because it was available in past. That's because of that, how people can't buy Lazul now if they starts to play today for example.

    I remember how they state that the offer is exclusive and time-limited and know that Blizzard can't refund primes, That's why I am saying "same Tyrande skins with a little difference" like golden hero power or non-animated like how they did for Elite Tauren Chieftain and SN1P-SN4P.

    I am already just saying they lied in marketing so I have been sided against them to not buy any Hearthstone-related content anymore. That's all I can do so I am doing this + I wanted to warn people with my experience and express how I thought. There's no meaning to say here "People can also obtain that skin.". It is not my business.

    I can't change people's thoughts, I know that but still can try to warn people to not make same mistakes with me. So, if you need packs, go buy those pre-orders but don't buy any exclusive skins because blizzard lies about them. The aim of this thread is just this. If you still want to buy, I can't do anything but know that you might be tricked like me. If you don't care, then don't care; but I care this. My personality doesn't let it go.

    It might be just a fucking silly skin for anyone. That's also valid for me. It's just a fucking silly skin. I only care how I have been tricked and wanted to warn people That's all.