Yea double moonfire for sure! I bet you could be even greedier and add stuff like a second wrath or crystal power. The elise combo is a 5 card combo anyways, the moment you pull that off, your deck is probably near empty.
Ok no, that’s not entirely true. You could trigger elise with only the moonfires in hand but still.
I for sure like the double beeees!! I like the idea of a non singelton Elise deck as a whole!
1. The reward is completly insane. A buff between +3/+3 and +3/+6 is on blessing of Kings level. For two mana. As a heropower. I don‘t even know why we discuss that. When priest ever manages to get the bord, the game is over.
2. Healing 15 Health is a natural thing for priests. Reborn minions can be healed btw. Sure, it‘s not done by turn 5 but this would be way to overpowered. You want to play the long game with this anyways.
Guilty. I sometimes queue a new match while doing something else like responding to messages or grabbing a snack. It‘s a little ego but it‘s only a matter of second
I never played it but i dare to guess that this is wrong. Fel Reaver usually finishes the game when played in curve pretty quickly. You don’t care about your deck.
You do care about your opponents Taunts getting revived though
Well, you presented your post as an argument that the „new“ (8 expansion old) system of two class legendarys is advantageous for f2p. He is simply saying that this is only true in the niche case of playing one class only. In every other situation, the contrary is the case ...
In fact, what you are saying is the following: Since Ungoro, less neutral legendarys are printed. Obviously, a full neutral expansion has become less expencive.
This argument is flawed on multiple levels.
1. Less legendary cards is less content.
2. You don‘t consider the meta whatsoever. Most players craft the cards, they want to use and the number of „usable“ legendarys is not allways relatet to the total amount of legendarys.
You artificially limit your access to multiple decks and playstyles by sticking to one class and wasting your dust on random neutral cards that may not even synergise with your class.
I would never criticize your way of playing the game. As long as you have fun, great! It‘s simply no advisable strategy for f2p, especially new players.
Let me finish with an example: Let‘s take Rasthakans Rumble. Would you ever consider crafting Griftah over [Hearthstone Card (Zul’jin) Not Found]? The first is at best a meme card that doesn’t support any deck. The later unlocks multiple budget decks, impacts the games significantly and has a high chance to see play in future expansions.
Right. The correct approach would be to consider only meta relevant cards. At best separated in 3 tiers.
I would expect the results to show that RoS has become more expencive because so many legendarys have implications. At the same time, this means that you allmost allways can adapt your collection to the legendarys, you opened.
Besides, the system is over 2 years old now. If anything, cost hasn‘t changed in a long time.
And finally, 2 legendarys per class is not very f2p friendly since their application is often limited to a single deck. Neutrals like the ich King, N‘zoth or Zilyax are way more usefull.
I guess the honeymoon is long over and HS is proving it‘s sustainability right now.
Content producer dropping out for personal reasons is perfectly normal. As long as this is not happening in large numbers, new faces can take their place.
I say it‘s normal, not irrelevant though! It‘s crazy how important the content surrounding HS is. Fortunatly we got people like Kripp and Kibler that probably won‘t stop for quite some time
One could compare it with evil miscreant. The 1/4 has a similare value to the 2/2 weapon. Two lackeys for three mana is great!
No need to combo but the downside is that you only get one Lackey per turn. And this is actually huge when you‘re looking for a specific answer.
Not to mention that rogue has a wayyyyy bigger synergy package with other combo cards, Spirit of the shark and so on.
Strong baseline but no real implication imo. Could find a place in aggressive warrior lists though! And the quest of course but i don‘t believe that we‘ll see much questwarrior anyways
I don‘t like the extremes of those cards. It sucks at 5 mana and is broken when active. Just make it a 4/5 or base 4 mana and don’t reduce it to 0 but to 1 or maybe even 2..
Talking about cheating it out, this may actually see play in big shaman. Not that it would be of any relevance ... But at least you got to do something with it when you open it
Did you realize something? The amount of mana, your opponent has to spend to kill this thing off goes through the roof. You‘re right that the stat distribution is very bad but it‘s still a 4/5 for 2 mana!
Let me play the turn 3 priestfor you..
I play cleric, trade the mummy and the cleric becomes a 2/4. Then i heal the reborn mummy, draw a card and have a 1/2 left. Your frostbolt doesn’t clear my cleric and your ping doesn’t kill my mummy.
It‘s a dark bomb on steroids! The interaction with Profet Velen is crazy btw. Deal 6, heal 12!
Fireball + greater healing potion for 2 mana. This might be strong enough to see play regardless of the deck.
I‘m in! I wanted to dip my toes into karazhan, naxx and stuff for a while now! But probably not in the near future... Uldum goes firs
Yea double moonfire for sure! I bet you could be even greedier and add stuff like a second wrath or crystal power. The elise combo is a 5 card combo anyways, the moment you pull that off, your deck is probably near empty.
Ok no, that’s not entirely true. You could trigger elise with only the moonfires in hand but still.
I for sure like the double beeees!! I like the idea of a non singelton Elise deck as a whole!
Except that you have no more healing.
It‘s allmost impossible that this won’t see play.
1. The reward is completly insane. A buff between +3/+3 and +3/+6 is on blessing of Kings level. For two mana. As a heropower. I don‘t even know why we discuss that. When priest ever manages to get the bord, the game is over.
2. Healing 15 Health is a natural thing for priests. Reborn minions can be healed btw. Sure, it‘s not done by turn 5 but this would be way to overpowered. You want to play the long game with this anyways.
I‘m not sure it is! Aggro shouldn‘t have a problem to kill of the reborn version.
We could see reborn as a reverse divine shield because in both cases, you need a single damage.
To simplify: this is a 3/4 taunt, devine shield that heals for 6.... for 6 mana. Idk it’s fair at best. But fair cards are rarely competitive
I can only think one thing.. Conjuring your seagiant if you want to play russian roulette.
On one end a 10/10 divine shield reborn
On the other a 5/5
As long as Sap isn‘t hall of famed, this card has no use. To much trouble for a random effect that can backfire under opponents control.
Spicy arena card though!
Edit: Great addition for potential Captain Hooktusk decks though! On the other hand, a buff to the Hooktusk turn is not what the deck needs.
Guilty. I sometimes queue a new match while doing something else like responding to messages or grabbing a snack. It‘s a little ego but it‘s only a matter of second
You do know that you simply can wait one turn to get rid of it?
When you silence this, you are in real trouble ;)
I never played it but i dare to guess that this is wrong. Fel Reaver usually finishes the game when played in curve pretty quickly. You don’t care about your deck.
You do care about your opponents Taunts getting revived though
I had such a card in mind and just thought that blizz would never dare to print this. Same reason you can’t give stealth to other minions anymor
Well, you presented your post as an argument that the „new“ (8 expansion old) system of two class legendarys is advantageous for f2p. He is simply saying that this is only true in the niche case of playing one class only. In every other situation, the contrary is the case ...
In fact, what you are saying is the following: Since Ungoro, less neutral legendarys are printed. Obviously, a full neutral expansion has become less expencive.
This argument is flawed on multiple levels.
1. Less legendary cards is less content.
2. You don‘t consider the meta whatsoever. Most players craft the cards, they want to use and the number of „usable“ legendarys is not allways relatet to the total amount of legendarys.
You artificially limit your access to multiple decks and playstyles by sticking to one class and wasting your dust on random neutral cards that may not even synergise with your class.
I would never criticize your way of playing the game. As long as you have fun, great! It‘s simply no advisable strategy for f2p, especially new players.
Let me finish with an example: Let‘s take Rasthakans Rumble. Would you ever consider crafting Griftah over [Hearthstone Card (Zul’jin) Not Found]? The first is at best a meme card that doesn’t support any deck. The later unlocks multiple budget decks, impacts the games significantly and has a high chance to see play in future expansions.
Right. The correct approach would be to consider only meta relevant cards. At best separated in 3 tiers.
I would expect the results to show that RoS has become more expencive because so many legendarys have implications. At the same time, this means that you allmost allways can adapt your collection to the legendarys, you opened.
Besides, the system is over 2 years old now. If anything, cost hasn‘t changed in a long time.
And finally, 2 legendarys per class is not very f2p friendly since their application is often limited to a single deck. Neutrals like the ich King, N‘zoth or Zilyax are way more usefull.
I guess the honeymoon is long over and HS is proving it‘s sustainability right now.
Content producer dropping out for personal reasons is perfectly normal. As long as this is not happening in large numbers, new faces can take their place.
I say it‘s normal, not irrelevant though! It‘s crazy how important the content surrounding HS is. Fortunatly we got people like Kripp and Kibler that probably won‘t stop for quite some time
One could compare it with evil miscreant. The 1/4 has a similare value to the 2/2 weapon. Two lackeys for three mana is great!
No need to combo but the downside is that you only get one Lackey per turn. And this is actually huge when you‘re looking for a specific answer.
Not to mention that rogue has a wayyyyy bigger synergy package with other combo cards, Spirit of the shark and so on.
Strong baseline but no real implication imo. Could find a place in aggressive warrior lists though! And the quest of course but i don‘t believe that we‘ll see much questwarrior anyways
Dear blizzard gods, my favorite card is Grandmummy because my Granny is the best <3 She allways buffed me as a little one!
I don‘t like the extremes of those cards. It sucks at 5 mana and is broken when active. Just make it a 4/5 or base 4 mana and don’t reduce it to 0 but to 1 or maybe even 2..
Talking about cheating it out, this may actually see play in big shaman. Not that it would be of any relevance ... But at least you got to do something with it when you open it
Did you realize something? The amount of mana, your opponent has to spend to kill this thing off goes through the roof. You‘re right that the stat distribution is very bad but it‘s still a 4/5 for 2 mana!
Let me play the turn 3 priestfor you..
I play cleric, trade the mummy and the cleric becomes a 2/4. Then i heal the reborn mummy, draw a card and have a 1/2 left. Your frostbolt doesn’t clear my cleric and your ping doesn’t kill my mummy.