KANSAS - It's better than Recycle, that's for sure, although Recycle was crap so I don't begrudge your card for that. I don't mind the "frustration factor" of this card because I like games that go to Fatigue, but I can understand how that's not true for everyone.
DestroyerR - You already submitted so it doesn't really matter, but thankfully you picked your best card. This is the exact kind of card something like Ambush Rogue needed.
Xarkkal - I think Xavius is interesting, but I also wonder what his use-case would look like. Void Contract gets people to Fatigue faster, but what purpose does Xavius serve besides annoying both players? I guess the answer is "combo disruption", but I still feel like people would not play Xavius because they don't want to disrupt their own deck.
grumpymonk - A little expensive for a tech card, but then again Skulking Geist also costs 6-mana. This kind of card might eventually see actual development, so we might as well get it out of the way in the custom world first haha :D A good card, all around.
Neoguli - I'm inclined to say that Niuzao would not count for this competition, much like how anchorm4n's Impatient Pit Lord doesn't work. You're not actually interacting with the opponent's deck; you're just checking to see if it's empty.
Wailor - Donathan is very disruptive, and that's not the worse thing given he's 10-mana. But as you kind of noted, I'm just not sure he's a "winner". It's really hard to say. For what it's worth, I like All-Seeing Raven, although "do nothing" is an odd second option. How would the Raven work with cards like Fandral Staghelm?
Shivershine - I must apologize for my frankness, but I legitimately hate this card. Assuming I'm reading it correctly, your opponent would lose their Hero Power and all of their class cards? Then what was the point of them playing their deck in the first place? For 5-mana you've turned the game into an RNG fiesta, where they have to hope that their now-random collection of cards is somehow better than your own.
TheHoax91 - Is this replacing your opponent's Neutral cards with crappy Paladin Secrets? That is absolutely devastating against many decks. I'm sorry but this doesn't seem fair at all: it should be at the very least more expensive so you cannot tutor it with Call to Adventure or Crystology. Otherwise you can easily tutor this card and play it on the same turn, annihilating your opponent's strategy with a reliable combo.
Thez - I take it the card you've replaced with a Coin is gone forever? That seems a little harsh, but then again this is otherwise a 3-mana "do nothing" so I guess you can get away with it.
meisterz39 - I'm inclined to say that it does not meet the requirements of the theme.
dembro - I like Horrific Visions more than Nether Ritualist, although giving a minion a Deathrattle does not allow it to be resummoned by N'Zoth. He cannot resummon Da Undatakah, for example. In that way, you would have to get lucky and actually pull a natural Deathrattle minion from your opponent's deck.
MenacingBagel - Seems particularly evil, but yes it would count.
Dermostatic - Considering that the Rogue often manages to shuffle 10-14 times with their Togwaggle's Scheme, I think "5 Imps" is potentially underselling it. I don't know if it needs to cost more considering it doesn't do anything right away, but I know for sure that I would despise this card being played on me.
Burning Chainwhip is good, although it looks like you forgot to give it a class. Toxic Longtongue is alright, but 3/1 is a really weird statline for a Poisonous minion. Switch Teams just feels like "ghetto Duel" to me. Not really feeling this one.
The class for Burning Chainwhip is supposed to be Demon Hunter. It just isn't very noticeable. I chose correctly; it's Hearthcard's fault, not mine XD
Fairly irrelevant overall, because according to feedback I think I'll stick with Toxic Longtongue. Thanks everyone who sent some words my way <3 I'll provide some more feedback to the people who came later....later.
Feedback would be very welcome and pretty pretty please somebody tell me the effect qualifies!
Unfortunately, we've come to the conclusion that it does not qualify. It's similar to how we feel about Coldlight Oracle: the effect involves their deck, certainly, but you're not really interacting with it.
Sometimes Blizzard itself reuses art from single-player experiences or their special Arena event, so I think it would be fine. It's not like we're going to give you the boot for doing that.
Conduit - Echoing what the others have said, it's weird to have the "corrupted" version of Benedictus in the same set as the original. I'm also not entirely sure what the intended use-case of this card is: Archbishop Benedictus is used to stave off fatigue, but what's the goal of giving them so many cards?
shaveyou - I definitely prefer Incitus over Roaring Inferno. The latter is just too destructive: I know you have to pull them for them to do anything, but it's still a 3-mana "your opponent discards three cards" which seems insane.
Wailor - Doomsaya seems fine. The effect is mirrored, but any deck that wants to run Din'ju probably doesn't care much about their side anyway. It's a control thing. I see this as punishment against someone who can draw through their deck fast, and/or combined with a mill deck (eww, gross). "Prophecy" is spelled wrong, although I don't know if you did that on purpose or not :P
thepowrofcheese - I think it's a little redundant with Ancient Harbinger being in the same set, but I do like it. It creates an interesting battle between the decks, as-to who brought the bigger gun.
Hordaki - There's nothing wrong with this idea, per se, but it does overlap significantly with Sightless Watcher from a creative level. I feel you may lose some points for that.
Pokeniner - Forcing a dead draw is kind of mean; at least an Albatross is a 1/1 they can use. Maybe because it's a one-of you can get away with it. I'm not sure how I feel about this card. Sorry, I know that's not helpful :/
I came up with three ideas, all in the name of pulling a minion from your opponent's deck on purpose:
Burning Chainwhip is a little better than Arcanite Reaper but your first swing must go toward clearing a minion. Interestingly, you could attack first with your Hero Power or something then equip the weapon for a second attack in the same turn.
Toxic Longtongue is pretty straight-forward: pull a minion out with his tongue and kill it!
Switch Teams does just that: you get one of their minions and they get one of yours. Fill your deck with less-than-great minions and win via the memes.
Who do you think the final Champion for Bilgewater will be?
Based on the datamined sound files, it's either Miss Fortune or Tahm Kench. One of them A. is way more popular, and B. had a voice clip at the end of the Bilgewater video. Naturally this must mean Tahm Kench is next.
I think it is Twisted Fate because Miss Fortune has a line for him when he enters the board, and he says something back. They could have made the voice line in advance for a future expansion, of course, but it suggests that Twisted Fate is coming.
Not that I have a problem being wrong, though; I really like Tahm Kench.
Btw, since I'm still pretty new to this, what happens if I or someone else submitted a card that had the same design? Would they be disqualified? I don't think it's fair for someone to submit a card early and get lower scores because someone else submitted a card later that did the same thing. There's no way of knowing, of course. It could be just a coincidence.
There's a lot of gray area with these things, as-to whether or not it's a coincidence when cards feature a very similar design. For example, to be fair to the "Dormant for 2 turns" people, it is a prominent feature of the most recent expansion, one in which we also saw the return of Rogue Secrets. That could explain its prevalence.
The other thing is that a number of people who submit don't use our Discussion thread (although we sure wish they would!). For those of us who do, we see peoples' concepts and think "welp, that idea is taken", but the people who don't come to the thread don't see that a person has essentially called "dibs" on a particular idea. Are they swiping the idea for themselves, or did they simply come up with the same thing and didn't notice? It's hard to know the difference, especially for a common idea like the aforementioned Dormant cards. I feel bad for the thread-users who get placed in this position, but I also don't believe we should disqualify the others who came up with a similar concept...just yet, anyway (unless we knew for a fact that they stole the idea, of course). It's something we have to keep an eye on.
TL;DR: We'll most likely give everyone a pass on this one because "Dormant for X turns" is a part of the latest expansion and people want to utilize the new hotness. If this happened to someone with a very unique concept, red flags would be raised and we would get together to discuss it. It won't always amount to action because it can be hard to prove such things, but we would not take it lying down.
I know a certain moderator that would approve this plan.
It's-a me, Mario Link! I spotted one of these decks in Casual a few days ago, and we engaged in a Taunt-battle for the ages. Maybe not, because I won pretty handily with my variant, but still: it was fun and cool to see others playing a deck like this :D
Speaking on the deck itself, I'm not sure how I feel playing such wimpy Taunts. Presumably you do so to get Sulfuras out faster, but I managed the feat first in our game so I don't know. I like playing bigger stuff such as Scrap Golem, The Lich King, and Khartut Defender, but I can understand how that can backfire against faster decks (I know this first-hand, of course lol). I'll have to give it a shot.
Finding art is easily the most time-consuming part of creating a card.
Finding art definitely can be a pain, yeah. Sometimes I seemingly spend hours on Google looking for the right image.
On an unrelated but more important note, you submitted both of your ideas simultaneously which is against the rules. Shady Deal was all set to go; why did you include Dark Effigy with it? We don't allow people to edit after they submitted, meaning now I have to disqualify you :(
(That being said, welcome to the website! Please don't let this early snag get you down: we all make mistakes when we're new to this.)
Back with more feed...back.
KANSAS - It's better than Recycle, that's for sure, although Recycle was crap so I don't begrudge your card for that. I don't mind the "frustration factor" of this card because I like games that go to Fatigue, but I can understand how that's not true for everyone.
DestroyerR - You already submitted so it doesn't really matter, but thankfully you picked your best card. This is the exact kind of card something like Ambush Rogue needed.
Xarkkal - I think Xavius is interesting, but I also wonder what his use-case would look like. Void Contract gets people to Fatigue faster, but what purpose does Xavius serve besides annoying both players? I guess the answer is "combo disruption", but I still feel like people would not play Xavius because they don't want to disrupt their own deck.
grumpymonk - A little expensive for a tech card, but then again Skulking Geist also costs 6-mana. This kind of card might eventually see actual development, so we might as well get it out of the way in the custom world first haha :D A good card, all around.
Neoguli - I'm inclined to say that Niuzao would not count for this competition, much like how anchorm4n's Impatient Pit Lord doesn't work. You're not actually interacting with the opponent's deck; you're just checking to see if it's empty.
Wailor - Donathan is very disruptive, and that's not the worse thing given he's 10-mana. But as you kind of noted, I'm just not sure he's a "winner". It's really hard to say. For what it's worth, I like All-Seeing Raven, although "do nothing" is an odd second option. How would the Raven work with cards like Fandral Staghelm?
Shivershine - I must apologize for my frankness, but I legitimately hate this card. Assuming I'm reading it correctly, your opponent would lose their Hero Power and all of their class cards? Then what was the point of them playing their deck in the first place? For 5-mana you've turned the game into an RNG fiesta, where they have to hope that their now-random collection of cards is somehow better than your own.
TheHoax91 - Is this replacing your opponent's Neutral cards with crappy Paladin Secrets? That is absolutely devastating against many decks. I'm sorry but this doesn't seem fair at all: it should be at the very least more expensive so you cannot tutor it with Call to Adventure or Crystology. Otherwise you can easily tutor this card and play it on the same turn, annihilating your opponent's strategy with a reliable combo.
Thez - I take it the card you've replaced with a Coin is gone forever? That seems a little harsh, but then again this is otherwise a 3-mana "do nothing" so I guess you can get away with it.
meisterz39 - I'm inclined to say that it does not meet the requirements of the theme.
dembro - I like Horrific Visions more than Nether Ritualist, although giving a minion a Deathrattle does not allow it to be resummoned by N'Zoth. He cannot resummon Da Undatakah, for example. In that way, you would have to get lucky and actually pull a natural Deathrattle minion from your opponent's deck.
MenacingBagel - Seems particularly evil, but yes it would count.
Dermostatic - Considering that the Rogue often manages to shuffle 10-14 times with their Togwaggle's Scheme, I think "5 Imps" is potentially underselling it. I don't know if it needs to cost more considering it doesn't do anything right away, but I know for sure that I would despise this card being played on me.
The class for Burning Chainwhip is supposed to be Demon Hunter. It just isn't very noticeable. I chose correctly; it's Hearthcard's fault, not mine XD
Fairly irrelevant overall, because according to feedback I think I'll stick with Toxic Longtongue. Thanks everyone who sent some words my way <3 I'll provide some more feedback to the people who came later....later.
Unfortunately, we've come to the conclusion that it does not qualify. It's similar to how we feel about Coldlight Oracle: the effect involves their deck, certainly, but you're not really interacting with it.
Also, that's a Dreadlord, not a Pit Lord :P
Sometimes Blizzard itself reuses art from single-player experiences or their special Arena event, so I think it would be fine. It's not like we're going to give you the boot for doing that.
Feedback time:
Conduit - Echoing what the others have said, it's weird to have the "corrupted" version of Benedictus in the same set as the original. I'm also not entirely sure what the intended use-case of this card is: Archbishop Benedictus is used to stave off fatigue, but what's the goal of giving them so many cards?
shaveyou - I definitely prefer Incitus over Roaring Inferno. The latter is just too destructive: I know you have to pull them for them to do anything, but it's still a 3-mana "your opponent discards three cards" which seems insane.
Wailor - Doomsaya seems fine. The effect is mirrored, but any deck that wants to run Din'ju probably doesn't care much about their side anyway. It's a control thing. I see this as punishment against someone who can draw through their deck fast, and/or combined with a mill deck (eww, gross). "Prophecy" is spelled wrong, although I don't know if you did that on purpose or not :P
thepowrofcheese - I think it's a little redundant with Ancient Harbinger being in the same set, but I do like it. It creates an interesting battle between the decks, as-to who brought the bigger gun.
Hordaki - There's nothing wrong with this idea, per se, but it does overlap significantly with Sightless Watcher from a creative level. I feel you may lose some points for that.
Pokeniner - Forcing a dead draw is kind of mean; at least an Albatross is a 1/1 they can use. Maybe because it's a one-of you can get away with it. I'm not sure how I feel about this card. Sorry, I know that's not helpful :/
Thanks everybody who voted for me <3
In our first 10 competitons, I was a finalist 7 times and a winner twice. That's pretty awesome :D
I came up with three ideas, all in the name of pulling a minion from your opponent's deck on purpose:
Yes: Void Contract destroys both decks. Also there's Hakkar, the Soulflayer, which was one of Devizz's examples that we didn't use for some reason lol
I'm mainly impressed with how many friends he has...*sigh*
No but seriously congrats on the amazing pull.
Based on the datamined sound files, it's either Miss Fortune or Tahm Kench. One of them A. is way more popular, and B. had a voice clip at the end of the Bilgewater video. Naturally this must mean Tahm Kench is next.
I think it is Twisted Fate because Miss Fortune has a line for him when he enters the board, and he says something back. They could have made the voice line in advance for a future expansion, of course, but it suggests that Twisted Fate is coming.
Not that I have a problem being wrong, though; I really like Tahm Kench.
My guess is that Twisted Fate is next, saving the best (Miss Fortune) for last.
Finalist voting is now open!
Any guesses as-to who's gonna win this one? I may be starting off in "first", but I don't think it'll stay that way :( My guess is Counter Shot.
Should have given him Regeneration, because of the oranges: make that disgusting eating sound whenever he heals XD
"The most menacing" implies it is Gangplank, not Miss Fortune.
There's a lot of gray area with these things, as-to whether or not it's a coincidence when cards feature a very similar design. For example, to be fair to the "Dormant for 2 turns" people, it is a prominent feature of the most recent expansion, one in which we also saw the return of Rogue Secrets. That could explain its prevalence.
The other thing is that a number of people who submit don't use our Discussion thread (although we sure wish they would!). For those of us who do, we see peoples' concepts and think "welp, that idea is taken", but the people who don't come to the thread don't see that a person has essentially called "dibs" on a particular idea. Are they swiping the idea for themselves, or did they simply come up with the same thing and didn't notice? It's hard to know the difference, especially for a common idea like the aforementioned Dormant cards. I feel bad for the thread-users who get placed in this position, but I also don't believe we should disqualify the others who came up with a similar concept...just yet, anyway (unless we knew for a fact that they stole the idea, of course). It's something we have to keep an eye on.
TL;DR: We'll most likely give everyone a pass on this one because "Dormant for X turns" is a part of the latest expansion and people want to utilize the new hotness. If this happened to someone with a very unique concept, red flags would be raised and we would get together to discuss it. It won't always amount to action because it can be hard to prove such things, but we would not take it lying down.
We have four hours left to go! If you haven't already submitted, now would be a great time to reconsider that position lol
A little premature, but good luck to everyone in the voting process, and extra good luck to our future finalists come tomorrow.
It's-a me, Mario Link! I spotted one of these decks in Casual a few days ago, and we engaged in a Taunt-battle for the ages. Maybe not, because I won pretty handily with my variant, but still: it was fun and cool to see others playing a deck like this :D
Speaking on the deck itself, I'm not sure how I feel playing such wimpy Taunts. Presumably you do so to get Sulfuras out faster, but I managed the feat first in our game so I don't know. I like playing bigger stuff such as Scrap Golem, The Lich King, and Khartut Defender, but I can understand how that can backfire against faster decks (I know this first-hand, of course lol). I'll have to give it a shot.
Finding art definitely can be a pain, yeah. Sometimes I seemingly spend hours on Google looking for the right image.
On an unrelated but more important note, you submitted both of your ideas simultaneously which is against the rules. Shady Deal was all set to go; why did you include Dark Effigy with it? We don't allow people to edit after they submitted, meaning now I have to disqualify you :(
(That being said, welcome to the website! Please don't let this early snag get you down: we all make mistakes when we're new to this.)
Was the video implying that the final voice is Miss Fortune? She suddenly has an accent, while Gangplank's voice was the same as ever.