Hello again! Given Icecrown Lich was my most well-received card, but it was a bit hit-or-miss, I decided to make a couple of versions of it trying to fix its problems.
In case anyone missed them, I leave my previous cards in the spoilers, including the previous version of the Lich:
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Anyway, more feedback:
@anchorm4n
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I think I prefer the version that deals damage to your hero, since Discard isn't used outside Warlock, except very justified exceptions like Deathwing or [Hearthstone Card (Astral Comunion) Not Found]. Plus, it fits the flavor of Rabbid Doggo better.
@GameTheory345
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I prefer Russel the Bard, but as you say, I'm not sure he fits the criteria of this competition very well.
Garrul, the Sacrifice seems too extreme, so I'm not sure if he would do well in this comp.
@h0lysatan
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Your Terror Ghoul is very simple, but kinda interesting. Problem here is flavor:
The creature depicted seems to be a Banshee, not a Ghoul.
Neither Ghouls nor Banshees are Demons, so I'd change the artwork or get rid of the tribe.
If you keep the art, I'd make the card Witchwood instead of RoS.
@Demonstatic
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I'm not 100% sold on either of them. The Giant is too risky for my taste. Fangore is my favorite card of the two because his flavor is great, but in the end his effect isn't too diferent from "Destroy a Mana Crystal", and the whole "Draw this at the start of the game" is something I'm not sure about…
@MenacingBagel
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I don't know… The card is too extreme. I prefer your first version, even if it's a bit too extreme as well.
@Elfensilver
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Not sure if replacing 0-cost spells is a downside, since many of them might be Coins or so.
@MrRhapsody
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Both Impatient Felguard or Shiftless Imp are cool. If you go with the Imp, it should say "after your hero attacks"
@Demonxz95
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Blood Golem is definitively better than the last two cards. I agree with KANSAS that a 5/7 with Taunt would be more interesting.
@CapnMunch
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Not sure if having an uncollectible card is allowed. Anyways, the card doesn't seem to busted, so you could get away with giving it a watermark.
Plus, if your card tries to depict a younger Boom, you should probably find a better art, since the current one seems older than Dr. Boom or Dr. Boom, Mad Genius.
Given how unspecific this theme was, I guessed I'd had tons of cards that fit this criteria in my custom collection. Weirdly enough, I only had two, so I created a third one in Unstable Nightmare.
Let me know which one is the most interesting and which needs tweaking its stats.
Anyways, feedback time!
@linkblade91
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I guess Sinestra is better, since her drawback can be turn into some sort of benefit if you tailor your deck for it. I like Icy Guardian too.
@Demonxz95
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You're right. This card is love it or hate it. As other people said, it has nasty synergies with Recruit-like effects, so it's a card could never be in the game… But you can go with it for the lolz
About your Eredar Twins, it's cool, but it's too similar to Shaveyou's Cobalt Sky-Serpent, which I like better.
@TheHoax91
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I don't think its drawback is really a drawback. I fact, I think a 4/5 statline would be justified, since Taunt + Lifesteal is a very good combo for slow decks… Which don't really care about healing their opponent. Either save this card for another comp (because it's interesting) or make its Lifesteal only heal your opponent.
@shaveyou
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I think Cobalt Sky-Serpent has a more elegant design, so I'd go with it. My only "issue" with it is that Un'goro doesn't seem the place for this creature. I feel it has some sort of Asian vibe, so I'd make it Gadgetzan, since Shaman was part of the Lotus gang.
@MenacingBagel
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Like with Demon's card, yours can be very game breaking with Recruit-like effects. However, the effect has something to it (even if it's terrible outside of this crazy synergies it has) so people might like it.
That said, your card has several aesthetic issues that are more important than it seems. The artwork doesn't fit Hearthstone, you're missing some caps in both the name and effect. It's also missing a "." in the end of the effect.
@Xarkkal
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Both versions are cool, but I think I prefer the simplicity of the first version. That said, it needs more stats, since +1/+1 over Flamewreathed Faceless looks like too little to justify such a big drawback. The second version is also cool since it has the benefit of being resiliant to hard removal, outside of transform effects.
@Conduit
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Silencing your own stuff isn't really such a big drawback, especially since you can build a deck around it. I mean, check Wailing Soul or Dalaran Librarian.
Alpha Hoarder, on the other hand, is a very cool and flavourful card. I think it has chances to win the competition.
@KANSAS
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I don't thin Reno or Shadow Imp qualify for this comp. Out of the other ones, my favourite is Short-Tempered Brute. Illidan is also cool, but I'd change the character, since he's now a Hero.
@thepowrofcheese
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I really liked the card until I saw Demon's comment. And he's right :/
@Hordaki
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I'd give your card Rush, since otherwise your opponent has the advantage of attacking first.
@Alminarra
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Not sure about your card. I mean, flavor is solid, but I feel like it has been tweaked to fit this competition and it has really hurt the card.
If you decide to go with it, make sure to swap Armor with Healing (which fits the cooking theme much better) and capitalize Murloc.
@Fedrion
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I really like your card! I'd change its stats. Something like a 4 mana 2/8 or so? I don't know, with 4 Attack and that effect, it can really screw you up.
@Nirast
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Very playful and flavorful card. I'd like it to be in the game, but only if it doesn't end up in any competitive deck.
Congrats, linkblade! Last week you were saying that you might win some time, and here you have it :D
Anyways, I found Shadow's design analysis very interesting. I'm gonna check out my vote distribution as well, since I've only made it to the finals twice so far and I wanna improve.
BTW, I'm kinda surprised to see that linkblade is more polarasing. Maybe it's just this particular comp? Dunno, I've always thought his cards tend to be very solid, but not shiny.
Felspark Ritualist combines Shaman's specific keyword with Warlock's theme of self-sacrifice. Not sure about the wording, though. Also, I'm worried it might be too similar to Hordaki's Arcane Observer.
Imprisoned Nathrezim is here in case anyone misses Mind Control Tech :P In all seriousness, though, I think his powerful effect is balanced by the fact that your enemy can plan around it. About the flavour, Nathrezim are known for being cunning deceivers and persuaders, so I thought this species fits really well into Mind Control Priest. Didn't realise there were so many Mind Control cards, though lol
Armored Annihilian combines a specific theme of his class with Warlock's self-sacrifice, just like Felspark Ritualist. Also, I think Annihilian are a perfect fit for Warrior, since they're big, strong and brutal.
Enough about my cards, feedback time!
@linkblade91
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My heart is divided with your two cards.
On the one hand, I think Lothraxionis a very interesting and unique character (I didn't know him, but he is such a cool idea). If you decide to go with him, make sure he can't target the enemy hero, since that can lead to awful burst damage.
On the other hand, I think Sha of Despair has a cooler effect. I don't like the artwork, though, since it's not very clear if it's portraying the Sha or the Pandaren.
@Demonx95
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The effect is quite cool, but I don't think it matches the theme of being a Demon nor the character you chose. I mean, you could slap that effect in any other character and it would fit just as well.
Also, I agree with shaveyou that it should be a 5/5 without Stealth.
@Hordaki
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I think I prefer Arcane Observer, it has a more "elegant" design. Felwood Satyr is cool, but what I believe to be its main selling point (the flavor of being a Satyr for Druid) is already in the game with Imprisoned Satyr.
@hereharehere
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Don't really like the fact that it targets Neutrals. I feel like it punished the opponent for doing something which should be completely fine. Instead, I'd make it cost like 7 or 8 and target any minion.
@shaveyou
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Both are cool. I personally prefer Impish Shade, but my gut tells me Xavathras would do better, dunno why.
@thepowrofcheese
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Solid cards here.
Wrathlord is my least favourite one, since it's the least flavourful, IMO. However, it doesn't have the problems the other two have.
Felwood Satyr is my favourite, but I am a sucker for Treants. The flavour is really good, too. Reminds me of Warcraft 3.
Finally, Burning Subjugator might be the best one, but many people (including me) have Mind Control Priest ideas, so I'm not sure if that would bore people.
@Satanley
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Effect is cool, but I'd drop the dual tribe. Plus, the artwork is kinda bad, try to find a good Felhound artwork. Plus, I'd swap Stealth for Rush.
@Xarkkal
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Knowning the fact that these Demons are made of dead Soldiers of the Light, the flavour of this card is over the top. Effect-wise not mindblowing, but very solid.
If people are familiar with the lore, this card should be the winner, IMO.
@CovenantKevlar
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A cool spin on the whole " pay health instead of Mana" thingy. I like it beacuse weapons already cost Health if you attack minions, which makes this card kinda extreme. Artwork should be more centered, though.
@Nirast
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If I'm not missing something, your card only works with hand-buffs, which is too specific. I propose two alternatives, although I think the second one is much better:
Whenever you play a Beast, give it the enchantments this has. Not really sure, since Hunters don't have many way to buff Demons.
Whenever a friendly Beast dies, this gains its enchantments. I think one works better with the Hunters class, plus Demons and death synergy seems right flavour-wise.
Not sold on your card… The effect isn't too original, IMO.
If you go with it, change the Watermark to Boombsday, doesn't fit at all as a Classic card.
@linkblade91
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I like the Wildfire Dragon. The connection between Dragons and Elementals is quite cool and hasn't been explored yet.
@Hordaki
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Both cards are cool. I think I'd go with Bronze Mechadrake, mostly because I'm not a fan of super RNG cards like Curator, Overclocked, despite it's nice to see a second version of him (her? it?)
@Xarkkal
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I didn't realise how similar my Guardian of the Tides is to your Gnaw. I guess I'll go with another idea.
About your card, I think it has a few things to polish:
You should focus more on the Shark, it seems like the Murloc is the minion right now.
Rush didn't exist back in Un'goro. I'd change the expansion to Rastakhan or a custom watermark (the Trident one would fit).
The name Gnaw sounds like a legendary. I'd change it to something more "generic".
@Dermostatic
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Very nice flavor. I like it a lot, albeit it looks more like a Rare or Epic.
@Demonx95
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Very funny art! The effect is a bit bland, though. I'd try some effect that connects with Illidan as a character.
@anchorm4n
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Both arts are amazing. Flavor-wise, I prefer Darktide Conjurer, but it's too swingy for my taste. Therefore, I think I'd go with Mech Rider (despite the name is too bland)
One little piece of advice: don't submit your card too quickly. I did that and then realized my card is a bit flawed, both in terms of balance and wording.
Seriously, it annoys me to read the comments of this thread. So much negativity.
People are like "omg blizz has no clue", when time has told they usually know better than the community. Remember the overhype of cards like Troggzor the Earthinator?
I believe that touching THREE cards in a deck will obviously drop its winrate by a lot, even if those changes aren't big.
Plus, Faceless Corruptor trades way worse now, even if it's still a good card.
Hello again! Given Icecrown Lich was my most well-received card, but it was a bit hit-or-miss, I decided to make a couple of versions of it trying to fix its problems.
In case anyone missed them, I leave my previous cards in the spoilers, including the previous version of the Lich:
Anyway, more feedback:
@anchorm4n
@GameTheory345
Garrul, the Sacrifice seems too extreme, so I'm not sure if he would do well in this comp.
@h0lysatan
@Demonstatic
@MenacingBagel
@Elfensilver
@MrRhapsody
@Demonxz95
@CapnMunch
Plus, if your card tries to depict a younger Boom, you should probably find a better art, since the current one seems older than Dr. Boom or Dr. Boom, Mad Genius.
Given how unspecific this theme was, I guessed I'd had tons of cards that fit this criteria in my custom collection. Weirdly enough, I only had two, so I created a third one in Unstable Nightmare.
Let me know which one is the most interesting and which needs tweaking its stats.
Anyways, feedback time!
@linkblade91
@Demonxz95
About your Eredar Twins, it's cool, but it's too similar to Shaveyou's Cobalt Sky-Serpent, which I like better.
@TheHoax91
@shaveyou
@MenacingBagel
That said, your card has several aesthetic issues that are more important than it seems. The artwork doesn't fit Hearthstone, you're missing some caps in both the name and effect. It's also missing a "." in the end of the effect.
@Xarkkal
@Conduit
Alpha Hoarder, on the other hand, is a very cool and flavourful card. I think it has chances to win the competition.
@KANSAS
@thepowrofcheese
@Hordaki
@Alminarra
If you decide to go with it, make sure to swap Armor with Healing (which fits the cooking theme much better) and capitalize Murloc.
@Fedrion
@Nirast
Congrats, linkblade! Last week you were saying that you might win some time, and here you have it :D
Anyways, I found Shadow's design analysis very interesting. I'm gonna check out my vote distribution as well, since I've only made it to the finals twice so far and I wanna improve.
BTW, I'm kinda surprised to see that linkblade is more polarasing. Maybe it's just this particular comp? Dunno, I've always thought his cards tend to be very solid, but not shiny.
Congrats MathU! Your card was my favourite of the bunch.
My cards so far:
Enough about my cards, feedback time!
@linkblade91
On the one hand, I think Lothraxion is a very interesting and unique character (I didn't know him, but he is such a cool idea). If you decide to go with him, make sure he can't target the enemy hero, since that can lead to awful burst damage.
On the other hand, I think Sha of Despair has a cooler effect. I don't like the artwork, though, since it's not very clear if it's portraying the Sha or the Pandaren.
@Demonx95
Also, I agree with shaveyou that it should be a 5/5 without Stealth.
@Hordaki
@hereharehere
@shaveyou
@thepowrofcheese
Wrathlord is my least favourite one, since it's the least flavourful, IMO. However, it doesn't have the problems the other two have.
Felwood Satyr is my favourite, but I am a sucker for Treants. The flavour is really good, too. Reminds me of Warcraft 3.
Finally, Burning Subjugator might be the best one, but many people (including me) have Mind Control Priest ideas, so I'm not sure if that would bore people.
@Satanley
@Xarkkal
If people are familiar with the lore, this card should be the winner, IMO.
@CovenantKevlar
@Nirast
Also, make sure to write "Beast" with capital B!
@BasilAnguis
Firestarter Fiend has an interesting effect, although it doesn't tie to the fact that it is a Demon.
Here are my ideas. I believe the best one is the Whisperer of the Depths, but it's also similar to link's idea:
I totally missed it, since I'm still used to Hearthpwn schedule. It's a shame because people seemed to like my Dragonfang Totem 😅
Next time, I guess.
Feedback time!
@Iskar
If you go with it, change the Watermark to Boombsday, doesn't fit at all as a Classic card.
@linkblade91
@Hordaki
@Xarkkal
About your card, I think it has a few things to polish:
@Dermostatic
@Demonx95
@anchorm4n
I'm gonna start participating in these Discussions again now that I have more time lol
Here are my two cards. I've already used Magnetite Shard in a couple comps in Heathpwn.
I'll give some feedback later.
Kinda weird that they're adding the Demon Hunter after the approach they took with Death Knight...
I think they tend to use the HP too early.
He's quite good with Deathrattles like Goldrin, Spawn or Selfless. Other than that, I'm quite surprised to see he's the 1 Taver 4 minion.
Not everyone admits being biased. Here's a like for you :)
Yup, they updated them, but didn't say anything in the patch notes.
I'm pretty sure they didn't say anything about Rat King and Lightfang, so it's not surprising they're also silent about da Queen.
One little piece of advice: don't submit your card too quickly. I did that and then realized my card is a bit flawed, both in terms of balance and wording.
Thanks!
Yaaaaaay!
EDIT: is there a Discussion thread? I can't find it.
Seriously, it annoys me to read the comments of this thread. So much negativity.
People are like "omg blizz has no clue", when time has told they usually know better than the community. Remember the overhype of cards like Troggzor the Earthinator?
I believe that touching THREE cards in a deck will obviously drop its winrate by a lot, even if those changes aren't big.
Plus, Faceless Corruptor trades way worse now, even if it's still a good card.
I'd love to see it as a 3/3 if anything because it would have the same statline as Faceless Manipulator, the card that inspired it.