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Is this even possible?

Hi all. I've been trying (without success it has to be said) to build a deck with all Three Princes in it. That's Valanar, Keleseth and Talderam. It's proving.... difficult? 

 Here's the deck list for your perusal. Any ideas on how to make it better would be gratefully received. The only caveat is this: The Royalty must stay! 

 

### Spin Doctors
# Class: Mage
# Format: Wild
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# 2x (1) Arcane Artificer
# 2x (1) Babbling Book
# 2x (1) Daring Fire-Eater
# 2x (1) Dire Mole
# 1x (2) Prince Keleseth
# 1x (3) Prince Taldaram
# 1x (4) Prince Valanar
# 2x (5) Azure Drake
# 2x (5) Blast Wave
# 2x (5) Cabalist's Tome
# 2x (5) Dragon's Fury
# 2x (5) Servant of Yogg-Saron
# 2x (6) Blizzard
# 2x (7) Flamestrike
# 1x (9) Dragoncaller Alanna
# 1x (9) Frost Lich Jaina
# 1x (10) Kalecgos
# 1x (10) Pyroblast
# 1x (10) Yogg-Saron, Hope's End
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  • Hi all. I've been trying (without success it has to be said) to build a deck with all Three Princes in it. That's Valanar, Keleseth and Talderam. It's proving.... difficult? 

     Here's the deck list for your perusal. Any ideas on how to make it better would be gratefully received. The only caveat is this: The Royalty must stay! 

     

    ### Spin Doctors
    # Class: Mage
    # Format: Wild
    #
    # 2x (1) Arcane Artificer
    # 2x (1) Babbling Book
    # 2x (1) Daring Fire-Eater
    # 2x (1) Dire Mole
    # 1x (2) Prince Keleseth
    # 1x (3) Prince Taldaram
    # 1x (4) Prince Valanar
    # 2x (5) Azure Drake
    # 2x (5) Blast Wave
    # 2x (5) Cabalist's Tome
    # 2x (5) Dragon's Fury
    # 2x (5) Servant of Yogg-Saron
    # 2x (6) Blizzard
    # 2x (7) Flamestrike
    # 1x (9) Dragoncaller Alanna
    # 1x (9) Frost Lich Jaina
    # 1x (10) Kalecgos
    # 1x (10) Pyroblast
    # 1x (10) Yogg-Saron, Hope's End
    #
    AAEBAY0WCL8I6awCm9MCnOICneICnuICo+sCip4DC8kDuQbsB46sApKsAoGyAtfhApbkAovlAqaHA82JAwA=
    #
    # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone

  • It is possible but ... Having no 2, 3 or 4 drops is quite restricting ...

    Friendly
    • Quote From Horus

      It is possible but ... Having no 2, 3 or 4 drops is quite restricting ...

      That's the whole challenge I guess. I went for a Big Spell Mage as the body because of the restrictions those cards present. It kinda works, although against Aggro I'm screwed. Especially in Wild.. 

  • Keleseth feels completely pointless in this. I'm not sure Mage is the best class to be trying this with. With all the spells, it seems Keleseth is more of a hindrance that help. I'm feeling inspired to try to build a Zoolock deck with this Royalty restriction. 

  • Have you thought about quest hunter? I had a build with keleseth when it was standard, which was doing pretty fine.

    I imagine there should be a good zoo lock deck for you, too. Warlock might be the best option because of the hero power 

  • Royalty Zoolock

    Wild · Zoolock · by Xarkkal · 6 years, 10 months ago

    13,540 Dust 745 0 Copy Deck Code

     

    Just created this and am going to try it out later today. I'm sure it can use some refinement, but it looks fun!

  • That looks great! I might give that a spin as well, with your permission? Glad I've inspired someone with my dilemma! 😊 

    • Knock yourself out! The more it is tested, the better chance we have at making it work!

      • Quote From Xarkkal

        Knock yourself out! The more it is tested, the better chance we have at making it work!

        In that case I shall. And really, thanks a lot to everyone for thier answers and suggestions. I'm going to try it out with the Hunter Quest, a Big Warrior and a Druid as well. Here's hoping! 

  • If you want to get the max possible value from Prince Keleseth you have to go with an aggro deck, otherwise his buff will be so limited that it lose its whole point. Anyway missing out all 2, 3 and 4 mana drop will make your curve pretty terrible in the early game when you need the most a strategy in order to survive the other decks aggressive strategy or put yourself pressure on your opponent.

    Maybe a midrange Warlock or Rogue (for the chance to play multiple Keleseth) can accomplish something, but you'll still have a terrible time against heavy optimized aggro deck into Wild.

  • I don't own the princes so I can't test something....

    However, the problem is that you cannot play almost anything in the early game. Let's analize the situation:

    • you cannot have an early game, except for (1) drop
    • Keleseth synergize with nearly everything: even if his biggest power are low curve minions, the +1/+1 can help with middle/big minions too.
    • Taldaram synergize with big minions with good deathrattle, end of turn effects, charge if they cost (7) or less.
    • Valanar is good as a standalone minion, so it will be ok everywhere.
    • opponent will surely develop a board in the first 4 turns, so you should have a very good aoe in the (5) or maximum (6) mana slots.
    • no prince is a win condition by himself
    • princes have odd-even mana cost, so no genn or baku

    So, what class you can play?

    • Druid used to skip turns to play ramp cards, so maybe it's ok to skip turns playing nothing if you can recover after. You can still play innervate for playing early (5) drops or nourish.
    • Paladin's hero power can replace the early drops
    • Warrior can build good control deck that doesn't rely that much on low cost cards. Brawl is an excellent (5) mana aoe.
    • Warlock's draw power can be a good move for the early turns. And he has some of the best (1) drops in the game, so that helps too.
    • Priest have some of the best aoe in the (5) and (6) mana slots, and most of control priest used to skip the first turns.
    • Hunter could be good if built with the quest, as here you only need early drop minions, and Keleseth synergize a lot with the raptors.

     

    For the archetype:

    • cubelock can be a reasonable choice, as Taldaram synergize with the cubes, and if you play the weapon and the recruiter you don't need that much card lower then (5) mana
    • Some kind of slow warrior deck that use high value minions to win
    • You could build some kind of secret paladin, mysterious challenger is a very nice card to regain the tempo lost doing nothing in the first turns
    • A priest deck can be played here. Quest, spitefull summoner, there are a lot of engines that can work.

     

    Last but not least, I noticed that here

    [Wild] Synesthesy's Quest Spiteful Prince Hunter

    Wild · Quest Hunter · by Synesthesy · 6 years, 10 months ago

    12,980 Dust 1,512 0 Copy Deck Code

     

    I already use Keleseth as a win condition, and I play a very low count of (3) and (4) mana minions. Taldaram can synergize with some zombeast or a lucky spitefull summoner (the spiteful is even (7) mana!), while Valanar is good alone.

    You can take away Houndmaster Shaw for a second Tundra Rhino; Brann, the 2 ravencaller and the spellbreaker for some other cards you like: the ravencaller with some good (1) drop, maybe a Patches engine with 2 pirates and Patches; then you only miss one card.

     

  • How about a Full Royal Flush :
    Prince Keleseth, Prince Taldaram, Prince Valanar & Prince Malchezaar, for advance RNG fuckery ^^

    Friendly

  • Not running Magic Carpet, Lackeys, knife juggler and Dire wolf alpha really hurts the 14 1 drop Zoo deck but I think it's the only archetype that can get away with running the full royalty package. That said, I really dislike the Rafaam and double healbot in the above list: with Mistress of Mixtures, Prince Valanar and Zilliax you already have more healing cards than a normal zoodeck should be playing. I'd like to see 2 Grim rally, 2 Sea giant and a single soulfire added to the list, so maybe also cut one Omega Agent and one Mistress of Mixtures.