Legends of Runeterra

https://lor.mobalytics.gg/stats/archetypes

If we go to the stats page of mobalytics we notice a total overhaul to how the website is calculating win-rates instead emphasizing individual deck-lists with smaller sample sizes aka games played.

Unfortunately, this approach is uninformative I could for example look at ash thresh and see that they have a 57 percent win rate over 100 games and logically think they are top tier. But this would be incorrect.

Typically we would want to see 500 - 1000 games played over multiple variants of a deck list to get a realistic statistical picture of a decks true potential.

Ultimately, mobalytics needs to return to grouping similar decklists together into one statistical category if it wants to be of any use at all.

Link here: https://playruneterra.com/en-us/news/patch-1-11-notes

Bastion:
OLD TEXT: Give an ally Spellshield this round.
NEW TEXT: Grant an ally +1+1 and Spellshield.
Extra +1/+1 and the effect DOES NOT ends by the end of the turn at burst speed?????
There is no way now to trade into bastion using the same amount of resources. This buff is WAY over the top.
Anything that can abuse Bastion will become a tier 1 deck (Heimerdinger, Taric, Lee Sin).
Bastion needs to be changed to Fast or Slow speed.

Radiant Guardian
POWER: 5 → 4
I don't get this either. The difference between 5->4 attack on curve 5 is HUGE. Its much bigger then they are expecting.
Not only that but there will be times it won't be possible to activate her effect. A vanilla 4/5 that costs 5 mana is terrible.

Petty Officer -> Defense: 2 → 1 
Guess i got this one right in the other topic.

Lee Sin -> no changes. Yes, NO CHANGES.

-> Discuss <-

I mean, I'm not complaining, but where is that bonus xp coming from? and how long will it last?

Anyone played against a really good Lee Sin lately? 22 damage in one turn is kinda ludicrous. Especially considering the protections he has spell shield and deny do an excellent job rending him unmovable. And the card that fills your hands with gems works wonders with him. I’m just not sure how to deal with him Deny and spell shield strong. 

What do you think fellow Hearthstonians?

Do you think Celestials are fine....?

Or

Is it the same CreatedBy as Hearthstone's Mage/Priest...?

The only nice thing about it for me is that it's rarer to chain a Celestial into another Celestial......

As we know from two weeks ago, they said Petty Officer was on the chopping block. The question is, what will happen to the ugly little guy?

My personal prediction - he now summons a 1/1 Dreg Dredger and you can no longer choose a Powder Keg as an option.

A fun little quote from him at time code 22.25

Only 10 new cards were released from this set that see play

The only new list is Asol Trundle ramp and even then Bilgewater Noxious is just better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY8D2MC6FHY

He also praises Fiora Shen which isn't being played by anyone really but has the potential to be great

This list was grabbed straight off swim's website if you want to try it, it's the same one Bruised is streaming

Although he run's dragons on 5, which is a whatever change

https://lor.mobalytics.gg/decks/btlupe1la4s85h9j4vq0

So I've unlocked all of the new champion capsules in all of the region rewards.

Providing me a full set of Taric and Nocturn.

That only leaves a full playset of Sol to grab from weekly's and with gems.

Unfortunately, a lot of these champs are underrepresented in the meta right now.

You are either hardcore aggro or super control, and these match's are decided very quickly.

If I wanted to grind rank I'd just jam pirate aggro with it's insane 59 percent win rate overall.

https://lor.mobalytics.gg/decks/code/CICAIAIDAIHSKKACAIBQGBAGAIDAQFRAEYWTUAIDAYDAAAIBAEBTG

It has a 70 - 90 percent win rate against all of the control regions in the game so Targon, P and Z, Ionia, Noxious, Freijord

Shadow would be your best bet but it still looses 59 percent of the time.

Hurray, no midrange and no combo decks to speak of, so fun.

Still think Bilgewater isn't op guys...

Did anyone try? I love it. Would not mind if the current ranked mode gets replaced with this one.

So Bilgewater has been the tempo king since rising tides

https://lor.mobalytics.gg/stats/regions

mobalyitics has 3 of their lists exceeding 55 percent win rate.

https://www.swimstrim.com/runeterra/decks-and-meta

Swim has the number of top tier bilgewater lists at 5

and then there's literally everything else in the game that comes after

It absolutely blows the mind that this region has dodged nerfs this long, and really shows how little the developers play their own game.

You are thinking well they hit war chefs, and Ezreal, but those cards were never the issue.

It has always been the core region cards.

Best 3 drop, and is good at aggro and control plays

best removal in the game

best finisher in the game

best 1 drop in the game

best champ who might as well be bilgewater

I know you are all thinking QQ

but I just want to play the new set, and there's literally no reason to right now and that sucks

https://playruneterra.com/en-us/news/patch-1-10-notes/

War chefs going down to 1/3 hurts scouts and lulu

Ezreal nerf is healthy

Lee Sin buff is great

Yordle Grifter is brought in line with bannerman but otherwise bilgewater is untouched.

How do we feel about this, out of anything that was going to get nerfed I wasn't thinking Demacia of all things

Kind of a strange patch overall but I will let you guys decide.

I feel like every morning, I see a lot of whatever deck he released a YouTube video for the night before. He showcases a lot of interesting decks, so I get why people would want to try them out, but the frequency with which I see them just seems crazy to me.

why even have the search by region option if it doesn't work? i just want to see freljord decks please

GrappLr posted a weirdly self-contradictory YouTube rant today that, to me, summarizes a lot of grumblings about the expansion I've noticed from certain streamers. His two main points were:

1. None of the top-tier decks use Targon. In fact, they are all archetypes that existed before Call of the Mountain.
2. Hush is a "fun police" card that stifles creativity.

Do you see the contradiction? If none of the best decks are in Targon, they are not running Hush. Therefore, Hush cannot be a big enough presence in competitive play to keep a significant number of new decks from succeeding.

Of course, I must also point out that most of the top decks on the meta stats list have pretty low play rates. In fact, you don't see a play rate above 10% until you get down to ... wait for it ... Trundle + ASol. That's right, an all-new Call of the Mountain archetype. A meta with a lot of low play rates means greater diversity and excellent balance. When more people are choosing to play a new deck because it's fun, even though it doesn't perform quite as well as a lot of the older ones, that is a very good thing. (Another point -- I don't believe mobalytics tier lists are the most accurate representation of the actual meta. They get results from a fairly thin slice of the overall LoR user base, and I'm not at all convinced that the sample size is sufficient.)

GrappLr is upset because -- and he states this explicitly -- there's not enough power creep. He says he wants the first few weeks of a new expansion to be full of people saying, "OMG all these new cards need to be nerfed." Words cannot express how strongly I disagree with that sentiment. I say the fact that the new cards do NOT need a nerf is a sign that Riot did an amazing job with the balance. On the contrary, this is a great opportunity for Riot to appreciate how badly some of the old archetypes need to be taken down a notch.

So I just wanted to take a moment to congratulate Riot on a job well done, and I hope they don't take this negativity to heart. Keep up the good work, and I'm looking forward to those nerfs of last season's cards.

Do you think we'll get more celestial cards in the upcoming call of the mountain mini-expansions?

I personally think they shouldn't touch the celestial package anymore, it's in a good spot and plenty of people seem to hate it already. The only thing they could maybe do with future Targon cards is making them target invoke certain celestials.

So as title states.  I'm trying to create a singleton deck for the gauntlet and it's not letting me.  I go to my collection, select "singleton" under special rules, then I click "new deck". Try to add cards and the minute I try to add a 3rd region it errors out saying "you can't add more than 2 regions"

What gives? How the f am I supposed to create a singleton deck?  (I wasn't playing LoR last time there was a singleton gauntlet, didn't have time to play, so I apologize in advance if this has been answered before).

This is the third deck i am about to push into the meta: Heimerdinger / Ezreal / OTK

The deck focus on keeping Heimerdinger alive with Bastion, then Turret Spam. 
It mostly wins because the opponent can't keep up with turrets, but the main focus is to buy time until Ezreal levels up.
In very long games, Shards of the Mountain generates enough Gem cards for an OTK.
Hush works very well alongside both champions.

I am experimenting a great deal of sucess in my ranked games, so I think the deck is very well optimized already, but maybe someone could catch some improvement. 

The flex slots are:
3x Jury-Rig
3x Solari Soldier
3x Guiding Touch
1x Hush

I don't think anything else is replaceable.

Thoughts?

Got a full playset of Trundle and Diana now and have been playing around with them in various lists.

Noticing that Trundle Tyndamere lists are starting to pick up in popularity thanks to their synergy with warmothers call

Dianna seems to like frostbite quite a bit if you want to try here in something other than day and night, or Nocturne aggro.

Next champions I will be taking on are Leonna and Taric so look forward to that.

Take care

Which one you guys think we'll get next?

I'd personally prefer the void with Cho'gath being one of the first champions available. But maybe with Targon being such a great expansion maybe they'll give us something less cool for the next region like Shurima before adding the Void.

It seems Aurelion Sol became a hot topic of discussion, so i am going to try my best to break down this card being as impartial as possible.
Take your own conclusions if the card looks fair or not at the end.

Lore: Aurelion Sol is one of the Gods who created the Runeterra universe.

Since Aurelion Sol is suposed to be the strongest champion of them all, from a design perspective, is very fitting that his mana cost is set at the highest price possible: 10 mana. 

But for a 10 mana cost to see play in any card game, it also requires to have an extremely strong effect.
Here goes a list with a few examples of traits hight costs cards own in other games:
1- Deals high ammounts of direct damage; -> King Crush (Hearthstone)
2- Affetcs the board on the same turn its played -> Shadow Reaper Anduim (Hearthstone)
3- Setup an One Turn Kill combo; -> Antonidas (Hearthstone)
4- Very hard to remove; -> Ultimate Falcon (Yu-gi-Oh!)
5- Generate infinite resource overtime; -> Deathstalker Rexxar (Hearthstone)
6- Snowball overtime (wins by himself if left unchecked); -> Ragnaros(Hearthstone)
7- Denny oponnents resources; -> Jynzo (Yu-gi-Oh!)
8- Protect the player from loss/taking damage/heal; -> Malganis (Hearthstone)

Aurelion Sol is a Boss card, and as such, given he has the highest mana cost price possible for a unit, he is supossed to pack the ultimate bomb effect to win games. He needs to have an even stronger effect then Commander Ledros as he costs more mana and uses a champion slot.
But is Aurelion Sol unfair? To answer that, we need to look at how other Late game decks are doing.

This is a picture of my meme Purssuit deck.
It usually finish games in a single big hit by T9-T12.

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Maokai decks can pull their win condition by T7-T8. That means the oponnent gets 4 more turns as most players can't refill their deck.
It usually finish games by T11-T12.

Ezreal / Karma is an OTK deck. It requires Karma to be enlightned to pull off the combo, followed by Ezreal + spells on the next turn.
It usually finish games by T11-T12.

Anivia needs to be enlightned to proc her egg and level up, plus an additional turn to generate more Anivia copies.
It usually finish games by T11-T12.

Commander Ledros is played on T9 and Atrocity on T10. If Ledros is killed the combo takes longer.
It usually finish games by T10-T12.

Are we seeing a pattern here? Most control decks usually end games around T10-T12. Now lets examinate Aurelion Sol:

Aurelion Sol is played on T10 and if his conditions are met, he levels up after THE END OF THE TURN. So best case possible, the player may only play Celestials cards for free on T11 forward. It usually finish games by T11-T12.

Conclusion: I hope my work here can provide a better insight about Aurelion Sol's design for future reference.
I personally think Aurelion Sol is fair and on par with other control decks that see play on the current meta.

Little extra -> How to play around Aurelion Sol:
Play cheap spells on him to pop his spell shield and follow with a major removal, both with fast speed if possible to prevent counter plays. Another way is to ignore Aurelion Sol completely and focus to kill other units to deny his Level up in the end of the turn. Aurelion Sol by himself is "only" a 10/10 body do nothing with Fury which isn't worth its cost.