Legends of Runeterra

In this discussion I’d like to avoid all talks of Aurelion Sol, because that’s not what I’m talking about. 

I’m curious what are your guys thoughts on the dragon cards? I had been a huge super frustrating losing streak, and then built a Demacia / Targon deck focused on Dragons, Striking opponents, and Rally. I have had a lot more wins against decks that had been destroying me. So I give them a thumbs up but I’m curious on your guys thoughts?

If Ihave a Solari Priestess in play and cast Morning Light with Daybreak. The priestess' Daybreak doesn't trigger.

I'd had it not trigger other daybreak  effects either. Am I missing something?

https://lor.mobalytics.gg/stats/regions

There are some pretty astounding conclusions to be drawn from the statistics that I will detail down below

1. They who endure, LuLu, Tf Swain, Scouts, Leona account for about 25 percent of the decks played at high level

2. Targon's highest win rate is 51 percent, due to the certain weaknesses and a reliance on high rolling invokes

3. No deck is played over 6 percent of the player base illustrating a lack of confidence in any one strategy

4.  Those who succeed likely rotate lists frequently to suit what they are playing against

5. combo oriented champs are disfavored against champs that offer immediate value

I had been anticipating some new cards launching but when they finally launched the Targon updates, I was completely disappointed.  I was totally not understand of why the creators doing all these, they are basically ruining their own game. 

My post here i would like to talk only about the dragons.... in fact i will criticize it. As seems that the game maker would not even bother the balance of power between the old cards and new. That stupid Aerolian Sol (i don't care if i spell right... it is a trash for me) basically make all the other heroes completely useless. And those stupid celestial/ dragon combo would allow the spamming of high cost monsters and spell at 0 costs !!!!! 

I understand the game maker approach to attract some money players, but create such an overpowered cards does not make any sense for me.

I start to think that they operate the game without any sense of ethnics.

Just got 7 wins with the following deck:

Proof:

The best part of the deck was using the many Zenith Blades, along with burst spells to essentially negate my opponents removal.  Zenith blades made my Fizz stick to the board better and be a bigger threat on chip damage, and burst spells helped prevent any sort of removal used against him.  It was honestly a huge surprise to see this deck do so well.  And made me consider how viable a fizz/targon deck might be.

So anyhow lucky draws aside, I did have a question about expeditions...

Since I got 7 wins on my first trial, I got the 1600 bonus exp for the 7 wins.  However, In the past when I've gotten 6 or 7 wins.  I would go on to play a 2nd trial (just for fun).  However, when I open my rewards at the end of my usually worse 2nd trial...my rewards have felt like they were extremely sub par for 6 or 7 wins.

If I go 7 wins in the first trial, but then like 2 or 3 wins in the 2nd trial....does it take my 2nd trials results over my 1st trials for the rewards (regarding cards/capsules/shards?).  

When I play Targon with invoke cards I win. If I play other regions, I lose. Or it's a mirror match.

Not fun :(

She has never been a good card but now with Sol really wanting to be played with Freljord ramp or Thresh. But mostly ramp. She will never be picked.

These are my ideas to make her more viable. Bump her down to 8 mana. Make her a 8/8. Get rid of regen and give her something like fury or challenger. Then change her obliterate to kill 3 attack unites rather than 4 attack and only unites on board. Not in hand.

That makes her an option for Sol or troll ramp. Either use her or the new Dragon card that stuns people. I don't know its name. Also she doesn't step on the toes of Icequake because she obliterates 3 attack unites not 3 health ones and can also take out her own unites too.

It will be an option of do you want to keep two really annoying large unites stunned indefinitely next round on word or take out a bunch of low attack unites now?  

So mobalytics has finally gotten solid meta rankings for the call of the mountain meta.

What we are seeing is that bilgewater is pretty much dominating in all it's forms

With targon only being represented in B tier.

https://lor.mobalytics.gg/meta-tier-list

The reason for this is pretty straightforward

As I had mentioned before Targon champs aren't good.

They don't present win conditions.

In fact non champ plays like jamming a spectral matron at 8 onto the scourge and buffing your whole board is better then Sol

So is just buffing everything in your board, deck, and hand by 2

Or one sided board wipes

Or double vengence

etc. etc.

The other big issue is the 3 slot, bilge water has a 3/2 that summons a 2/1 on average

Targon has a 1/2 or 2/1 that doesn't do anything

In fact grabbing a 0 mana snake is often the right play and people don't do it

Anyway I digress what do you guys think of the meta

So I don't know if anyone else is experiencing this, but for about a week now my game has to update every time I start it. It's not a long update so it's really not that big of a deal, but it's long enough to be slightly annoying compared to the usual startup time, and I'm curious if it's just me or if this is also the case for other people.

So I had the opportunity to craft a lot of the core Targon invoke cards and figure out how the archetype is supposed to win, and the answer is easy.

cosmic inspiration buffs every one of your under-stated invoke creatures in deck and hand so they are grossly over-stated

You then get to absolutely crush the opponent

your 3/5 is a 5/7 your 1/2 is a 3/4 etc. etc.

If you are playing invoke allegience and you aren't playing inspiration you are basically just playing wrong unfortunately.

That's my hot take, let me know what you guys think

I just had a bomb dropped on me. There needs to be a way to read the celestial cards or they need to fucking show up in the list to see what the hell happened. I thought there was a deal 15 damage to all units spell about to go off. So I wasted two spells knocking off his spell shield and then used barrier on my buffed Garen. Then that shit went off and it only damaged my units. Is this really the spell? Because that is light years better than the Ruination feels super balanced. RNG wins ................... impressive this game killed the aspect that made it a fast paced strategy game and replaced it with luck draws. 

Yea, I know you guys will go with 

"Well it's easy to counter with xx xxx and xxx"

I have only been playing for 3 weeks and dont have money to spend and dont have alot of cards.

Also I don't know the game like you guys do and don't have the time to sit around and learn all this stuff you guys know.

Expeditions are basically 85% new content, and the old shit gets beaten by the new.

Maybe if you are a high skilled player it's not true that all this new shit is broken and overpowered but for a casual like me it's really depressing to face 100% "new" decks every time you play because everyone realizes how good they are.

I have to wonder, why play bad invoke cards like priestess in a stun deck.

The concepts have very little to do with one another and only leads to free losses

Instead lets use those stuns for tempo and absolutely wreck with rally's and battering ram finisher

We always win now right

I just want to talk about the new targon, the latest expansion. The Targon is ruining my experience overall. I love and only play lux in LOR and I don’t think a region should make a  character completely useless. Lux wasn’t even good to begin with and now she is dog shit. I’m very annoyed and unhappy. I’ve been thinking about quitting after the new expansion...

I just want to talk about the new targon, the latest expansion. The Targon is ruining my experience overall. I love and only play lux in LOR and I don’t think a region should make a  character completely useless. Lux wasn’t even good to begin with and now she is dog shit. I’m very annoyed and unhappy. I’ve been thinking about quitting after the new expansion...

So we see that the new ramp Trundle lists that were ever so popular at the release of the new set dropping down a tier in as little as one week.

This is pretty straight forward because playing a 3 mana 0/4 is bad

It's always been bad, and the expansion hasn't changed that.

We have lot's of challengers that can eat this for free with lulu support, or miss fortune

and even if you get your big ice quake off, that's still just a temporary setback to a lot of aggressive lists

So forget ramp let's just play on curve

With lots of healing and tricks

Until we hit 8 mana naturally and get to go off.

Ice pillar into a swing in with tyndamere and trundle, pretty nutty

Do you think I should of went with a different champion than Zed? Is Fae guide too bad? Just looking for helpful criticism.

I was thinking Fae Guide + Ghost would be good for extra damage with the non elusives but maybe its too slow and I have hush to counter other elusives. 

Hello Guys !

After I've tried so much decks, combinations and cards, I just wanted to share the decks that I most enjoyed.

There should have been more decks that I brewed and tried but some got unsuccessful and others are just shared already by other forum users and played/crafted already by streamers. So I've brought these to your attention.

These are the ones that passed just my personal success tests around 10-20 games. Other decks that I brewed couldn't make their place here.

If you want some different approach from streamer decks or don't have the specific cards for them, you might want to check these out. I don't claim these decks are wonderful but I enjoyed enough so wanted to share them with you.

And If you like the deck, don't forget to check the deck's link because i have wrote some explanations to the guide section of them.

Some of them are not refined enough and needs some replacements probably. So if you have any advices, just suggest them here and we will make them better !

and Here they are;

Keep your sanity and don't do it. Last season I got to Diamond 3 and it was a nightmare. Everyone used meta decks and never made a mistake which got frustrating and rather boring real fast. Before Diamond you could just mess around with any deck and progress. But in Diamond everyone is tryharding to get to Masters. And for what? Apparently master players say the majority of people who get to masters just kinda relax after getting there and start building random decks to mess around with since the grind is gone.

So I ask you all, what is the point? You can still have that same experience by just sticking around in the lower ranks and not having to deal with the mind numbing grind through Diamond. I can't speak much for Iron, bronze, and silver, since I wasn't there for too long; but the best ranks I find are in gold and plat. You can still mess around and try new decks and not get face stomped by meta deck after meta deck while doing it. The worst rank is definitely Diamond by far. No creativity, super sweaty players, and worst of all, BORING!

So the first champion I grabbed as a 3 of out of the new set is Lu Lu, and I instantly set out to put her in a strong list.

She's pretty good as long as you run her balls to the wall aggro, along with cheap challengers, lots of barriers and buffs.