Hard Core - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

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Competition Theme: Hard Core

The game is switching up its cards this year and all the classes feel it to the core.

  • Create a card for the 2023 Core Set. That's it.
    • Do remember to use the Year of the Wolf watermark on your cards. Your card will be disqualified if it's not placed in the right set.

A new Hearthstone year is upon is, and Wailor wants us to take a look at the core of the set.

As always, we can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.


Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

  • Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Apr 3 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Apr 8 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
  • Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Apr 8 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Apr 9 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
  • Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Apr 9 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Apr 10 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
  • Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2255 2706 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 1 year, 8 months ago


    Competition Theme: Hard Core

    The game is switching up its cards this year and all the classes feel it to the core.

    • Create a card for the 2023 Core Set. That's it.
      • Do remember to use the Year of the Wolf watermark on your cards. Your card will be disqualified if it's not placed in the right set.

    A new Hearthstone year is upon is, and Wailor wants us to take a look at the core of the set.

    As always, we can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.


    Competition Phases

    Here are the phases of this card design competition

    • Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Apr 3 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Apr 8 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Apr 8 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Apr 9 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Apr 9 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Apr 10 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

    Discussion Thread Rules

    No thread rules were added to this season. Please populate and manually edit this thread with them.

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  • StormKnightSera's Avatar
    Senior Writer Serra Angel 1720 2915 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

    Pretty straight-forward: need those Outcast cards in the leftmost and/or rightmost spot of your hand? This'll do it for you.

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2255 2706 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

    Reminder that we still have our April Fools competition, Consistently Inconsistent, going on if you're looking for some chaos. The regular competitions will still be going on as normal.

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2255 2706 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

    I'm excited that this competition finally gives me a chance to use this card that I've had in my portfolio ever since Death Knight was first announced (and I touched up to use the proper border and watermark).

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  • Wailor's Avatar
    Design Champion 640 708 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

    I have a bunch of cards for this week:

    Not much to say about them, they just used typical mechanics for each class. Frostwolf Chieftain is the biggest outlier, so I might make it a Neutral (even though Rush is pretty typical for Warrior)

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  • StormKnightSera's Avatar
    Senior Writer Serra Angel 1720 2915 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

    @Demon - I like the card, but Climactic Necrotic Explosion tells me they're trying to encourage something other than straight triple-Rune setups. This would butt heads with that direction.

    @Wailor - I think you could trim the Frostwolf Chieftain down to say "Rush. Whenever this would attack, summon a 3/4 Grunt to attack instead." The extra words seem unnecessary - how often will it attack non-enemies? - and that would allow you to fit the text on three lines or put Rush on its own line instead. I like it the most because the card seems neat...although he might not do much for the Warrior's current Standard situation.

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  • Wailor's Avatar
    Design Champion 640 708 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

    Btw, friendly reminder that Tradeable and Magnetic are currently in the Wolf Core Set, so cards with these keywords are also allowed.

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  • Wailor's Avatar
    Design Champion 640 708 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

    Wow, this is the lowest participation I've ever seen. I guess I'm to blame for proposing this boring theme.

    linkblade91
    A solid support card for Demon Hunter. It's balanced and the artwork is cool, so not much to add here.

    Demonxz95
    I like the idea of a card that works for triple Rune decks. An AoE feels basic enough for a Core set card, although it might be a bit too strong (not sure).

    Finally, I'd probably change the art, as it's a bit boring.

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar
    Harbinger of Winter 1915 2510 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

     

    Paladin receives some Dude support with Lothraxion the Redeemed and Muster for Battle so I've decided to go down that route. Dude Paladin has explored a lot of design space already so it wasn't easy to find a new and interesting effect (just buffing the Recruits would have been boring for example), but I defintely want to go with this artpiece. Giing it the iconic Truesilver Champion statline felt like a nice bit of nostalgia. Please let me know which version you prefer or if I should try to find something else altogether!

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar
    Harbinger of Winter 1915 2510 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

    Feedback:

    Wailor
    The Headhunter feels a little off flavor-wise because it rewards getting your own stuff killed. It does fit DH's swarm-archetype well though, so if you want to go with it I'd consider changing the name and the artwortk. The Warrior card is the most interesting of the three and I agree with linkblade's idea to make the wording simpler. Lastly, the Mage card is very solid, but not overly exciting. So what it comes down to in my opinion is how much creativity you'd want to see in a Core set. If you dare to do something exciting, go with Warrior. If you prefer to deliver a solid support card, take Mage.

    Demonxz95
    Nice card, I like how it is very simple yet has a condition that isn't easily met. That's my main concern as well: If you randomly generate or steal that card, you're looking at a vanilla 3/3/3 in 99% of the cases. The devs went as far as giving every class a Corpse counter so they could make use of Corpse cards they obtained, so this seems to be an issue worth looking into.

    linkblade91
    It does a lot of what I'd expect from a Core card: it's support rather than center stage, it has an easy yet useful effect, it's cheap and seems playable at every stage of the game. It might be a little too directly on-the-nose with what it does (imagine a Shaman card saying "Your Overload cards don't Overload this turn"), but it's still my favorite of the week so far. Replacing the Battlecry with Outcast would be a really funny way to fix that.

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  • StormKnightSera's Avatar
    Senior Writer Serra Angel 1720 2915 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
    Quote From Wailor

    Wow, this is the lowest participation I've ever seen. I guess I'm to blame for proposing this boring theme.

    We could blame something else instead, like the fact that it is Spring Break week. No need to throw you under the bus :P

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2255 2706 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

    We only have 48 hours left to submit and we only have 2 entries. At this rate, we very well may not even have enough people to fill the entire finalist list.

    Feedback

    Linkblade91
    Pretty good card, although I must ask how it would choose what side? Would it just pick a side at random for every card?

    Wailor

    I will agree with the other two that Frostwolf Chieftain is the best.

    And I don't blame you in the slightest. I don't think the theme is boring. I think simple themes like this can be a good place to encourage a certain thinking space and it seems that this competition in particular just got unlucky with turnout.

    anchorm4n

    I think I prefer the second version.

    The first version isn't my favorite since passive effects on weapons are something that can be abused by simply holding onto the weapon and never using its final attack. That's why cards like Sword of Justice also have the clause of losing 1 Durability. As far as I can tell, the only weapon with an effect like this without a clause to lose Durability is Overlord's Whip because the effect can be bad.

    For this reason, I like the second version's design better, although because it costs 4 mana, it's hard to summon a lot of Silver Hand Recruits, sufficiently buff them to make giving them Charge a strong payoff, and also play this.

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  • StormKnightSera's Avatar
    Senior Writer Serra Angel 1720 2915 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
    Quote From Demonxz95

    Linkblade91
    Pretty good card, although I must ask how it would choose what side? Would it just pick a side at random for every card?

    I was thinking it would alternate, left-right-left-right. That would maintain the spirit of trying to keep everything on the "outer edges", checking after each card.

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  • StormKnightSera's Avatar
    Senior Writer Serra Angel 1720 2915 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 1 year, 8 months ago
    Quote From anchorm4n

    Paladin receives some Dude support with Lothraxion the Redeemed and Muster for Battle so I've decided to go down that route.

    I agree with Demon in-that the Lifesteal version has that "well I just won't swing, then" feeling that makes things murky. I also agree that maybe the Charge iteration could be cheaper/smaller to proc it easier; like a 3/3/2? That'll give more leeway to summon SHRs, buff them a bit with...something, and play the weapon itself.

    Just saw your submission; apologies for the late feedback 😕 I like the new card a lot.

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2255 2706 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

    You've got a little under 24 hours to submit.

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  • StormKnightSera's Avatar
    Senior Writer Serra Angel 1720 2915 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

    Good luck to the finalists! And Happy Easter to those who celebrate it :)

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  • StormKnightSera's Avatar
    Senior Writer Serra Angel 1720 2915 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

    Congratulations to Loknax!

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2255 2706 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

    Not only with a win, but also with the highest-scoring card to ever be submitted.

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar
    Harbinger of Winter 1915 2510 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 1 year, 8 months ago

    Congrats to Loknax!

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