Galakrond Warlock totally useless?

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Has anyone found any success with Galakrond in Warlock? I've tried some Zoo strategies, but it basically gets blown out by Galakrond Shaman's rush invoke.

I've just started trying to make a more control-oriented Darkest Day Galakrond work with things like Plague of Fire to get value out of the token imps, but so far results are unclear.

  • meisterz39's Avatar
    925 1200 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 5 years ago

    Has anyone found any success with Galakrond in Warlock? I've tried some Zoo strategies, but it basically gets blown out by Galakrond Shaman's rush invoke.

    I've just started trying to make a more control-oriented Darkest Day Galakrond work with things like Plague of Fire to get value out of the token imps, but so far results are unclear.

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  • Suchti0352's Avatar
    Hero of Warcraft 890 1034 Posts Joined 03/27/2019
    Posted 5 years ago

    Trumps version could be a Tier 2 deck

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar
    Prince Charming 1105 1355 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 5 years ago

    I wouldn't say useless - Galakrond ZooLock is doing pretty decent so far. Sure Shaman is a hard match-up but so far the Zoo-Galakrond lists are doing well.

    Mabye not T1 but at least T2 !

    Also saw Regis playing some ZooLock :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqEdj1aRyUg

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  • OmarComing's Avatar
    790 530 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 5 years ago

    I did see a Galakrond Handlock deck earlier. It ran stuff like Jumbo Imp as well as some standard removal like Lord Godfrey and Twisting Nether.

    I believe this was the deck (or at least close to it). This is in Japanese, but the deck code is below the initial post:

    https://twitter.com/Alutemu/status/1205080388441296897 

    Summoning two imps with Galakrond does seem super underwhelming though. They couldn't even give them rush? 

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  • Lambda's Avatar
    390 126 Posts Joined 07/24/2019
    Posted 5 years ago

    I really don't see any fit for Galakrond in warlock except for Veiled Worshipper and, when fully invoked the weapon. As already mentioned, i can not understand how shaman gets 2/1 Elementals with rush and warlock just some lousy 1/1 wisps with demontag..... 

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  • linkinboy0's Avatar
    Headmaster 1235 513 Posts Joined 07/07/2019
    Posted 5 years ago

    Could it be useful in the Plot Twist deck?

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  • Helicon1's Avatar
    135 24 Posts Joined 07/10/2019
    Posted 5 years ago

    It's hard for all classes against Shaman right now so that shouldn't be the focus.

    IMHO it has to be aggro to work because there's not a lot of tempo in the meta so you need to compete with aggro decks and beat control for speed.

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  • HuntardHuntard's Avatar
    Mailbox Dancer 875 744 Posts Joined 12/03/2019
    Posted 5 years ago
    Quote From Suchti0352

    Trumps version could be a Tier 2 deck

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    It struggles a bit against shaman, the main problem being the invoke twice card and the fleshshaper. Other than that though, the deck performs pretty good, with its second weakest matchup being highlander mage and the best match up rogue.

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  • Brandon's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1350 2486 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 5 years ago

    I don't get why people call the warlock galakrond bad... People say getting 2 1/1's is bad.... BUT THATS ODD PALADIN IN A NUTSHELL. I'm having trouble understanding why people call odd paladin a problem (Wild ofc) and the warlock galakrond bad. They basicly have the same hero power, for the exception of having a demon tribe instead of Silver hand synergies (Level Up!). Playing the warlock galakrond is basicly a reload. And Token Druid even used The Forest's Aid as a reload. Okay it doesn't work as good as Forest's aid, but it's a reload none the less... Maybe demon's rght now are just bad? I'm curious how well warlock galakrond functions in wild, where nearly all the really good demons are.

    (This Galakrond HAS to be THE reason Doomguard was hall of famed 5 months ago)

    Perhabs the reason warlock Galakrond is considered bad is because it gets outshined by Shaman Galakrond & Pirate Warrior? I truly hope the upcoming nerfs will make it so warlock galakrond gets some time to shine!

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  • Lambda's Avatar
    390 126 Posts Joined 07/24/2019
    Posted 5 years ago

    The problem with demons is the missing support. Maybe in a few months. But not right now. 

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  • Lambda's Avatar
    390 126 Posts Joined 07/24/2019
    Posted 5 years ago

    It's more than fleshshaper or the double invoke card. The whole class has some strong synergies. The whole overload package and the new +1/1 (1 overload) as connector to the galakrond heropower/invokes.

    In comparison to warlock shaman is on steroids.

    Warrior for example has a fitting Galakrond as well. And rogue players will surely refine their decks. It has always been like this with combo decks

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  • Koetti's Avatar
    1095 863 Posts Joined 11/21/2019
    Posted 5 years ago

    I think that Warlock could possibly go for a more control-style gameplan.

    I just fought against a guy who used Expired Merchant and Soulwarden to get multiple copies of Galakrond, the Wretched (+ the Elekk/Plot Twist combo). The Standard Demon-Pool has no Mal'Ganis or Voidlord, but the random Summons are still pretty decent with things like Siegebreaker, Illidan Stormrage or just a 5-5 Sathrovarr.

    Maybe this kind of Warlock-Deck could be something to consider if Shaman loses its Topspot?

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  • Painkiller1724's Avatar
    200 132 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 5 years ago

    This warlock Galakrond still amuses me.. I mean, if you are playing zoo, you are meant to be playing an aggro deck. Aggro decks should not rely on hero cards, especially those that costs 7 mana

    Even with the Invoke stuff to summon the imps, still the invoke cards are not aggro oriented!!!

    IMO this Galakrond Warlock was an extreme design flaw. They should have created something that could make a control deck more viable. 

    If someone makes a competitive deck with this card, then he/she will get my applause!

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  • RandomGuy's Avatar
    430 614 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 5 years ago

    GalyLock is better than I gave it credit for, but I don't believe it will ever be able to be better than T2. (And I didn't even think it could be a T2 deck before).

    Sometimes, spamming 3 minions multiple turns in a row just gets there against bad starts. Even when those minions are trash and cost 3+ mana.

    But it's Galakrond battlecry is still garbage because of the extreme RNG involved.

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  • meisterz39's Avatar
    925 1200 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 5 years ago
    Quote From Brandon

    I don't get why people call the warlock galakrond bad... People say getting 2 1/1's is bad.... BUT THATS ODD PALADIN IN A NUTSHELL. I'm having trouble understanding why people call odd paladin a problem (Wild ofc) and the warlock galakrond bad.

    Odd Paladin is strong because it has that hero power from turn 1. Justicar Trueheart didn't see play in Paladin when it was in standard because getting that hero power in the mid to late game isn't impactful enough. This is just a repeat of that, but it's extra hard in this meta to find a place for a tempo oriented Warlock.

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  • DelkoHS's Avatar
    Child of Galakrond 485 481 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 5 years ago
    Quote From meisterz39
    Quote From Brandon

    I don't get why people call the warlock galakrond bad... People say getting 2 1/1's is bad.... BUT THATS ODD PALADIN IN A NUTSHELL. I'm having trouble understanding why people call odd paladin a problem (Wild ofc) and the warlock galakrond bad.

    Odd Paladin is strong because it has that hero power from turn 1. Justicar Trueheart didn't see play in Paladin when it was in standard because getting that hero power in the mid to late game isn't impactful enough. This is just a repeat of that, but it's extra hard in this meta to find a place for a tempo oriented Warlock.

    That's not true, Justicar Trueheart was staple in Midrange Paladin.

    I'm calling Galakrond, the Wretched a semi-sleeper card. It just needs that little extra support to be competitively viable. The Zoo approach feels underwhelming to me, but maybe some sort of Midrange version might pop up soon.

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  • Lemushki's Avatar
    Squirtle 1120 1063 Posts Joined 03/22/2019
    Posted 5 years ago

    Been having good success with it! Havent refined the deck though, but it has some potential. No tier 1 potential but maybe 2 or high tier 3

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  • meisterz39's Avatar
    925 1200 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 5 years ago

    Quote From DelkoHS
    That's not true, Justicar Trueheart was staple in Midrange Paladin.

    I'm sorry, I misspoke, what I meant to say was that it wasn't the win condition that made any single Paladin deck work (in the way that it did for Control Warrior with Tank Up), and that's because getting an extra 1/1 in the mid to late game is strong, but not in a way that's entirely degenerative to the meta game. Having access to it on turn 1 is the reason Odd Paladin is overpowered, and Justicar Midrange Paladin's hero power was never a game-ruining problem.

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