One Man's Treasure - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

Competition Theme: One Man's Treasure

For this competition, we'd like you to create a treasure card for any of the rogue-like single-player modes (Dungeon Run, Monster Hunt, Rumble Run, Dalaran Heist or Tombs of Terror).

• Your treasure can be a playable card or a Passive upgrade
  • You may make a Shrine for Rumble Run
• Most treasures are completely neutral and can be obtained by any class, however:
  • You may make a class-specific treasure for Rumble Run
  • You may make a class-specific treasure for Tombs of Terror
  • You may make a character-specific treasure for Monster Hunt
• You must use an appropriate watermark for your card
  • Kobolds and Catacombs, Witchwood, Rastakhan's Rumble, Rise of Shadows and Saviours of Uldum are allowed, to make that more explicit

Welcome, welcome everyone to another WCDC. This one directly follows on from our last one - we celebrated the cards we got, and now we're celebrating the single-player content.

As before, let us know if you experience any issues via Discord or PMing me here on the site.

Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

• Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Feb 24 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sat, Feb 29 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Feb 29 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Sun, Mar 1 16:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Mar 1 17:00 EST (GMT -0500). Runs until Mon, Mar 2 17:00 EST (GMT -0500)
• Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

Discussion Thread Rules

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I can't seem to put an Uldum Watermark on free spells.

Anyway, here it is.

Alright, this is my first idea. It needs some work, but this is just the first thing I thought of.

Damn I should have checked this thread before submitting my card, it has a common card mark because I didn't know how to do that.

One little piece of advice: don't submit your card too quickly. I did that and then realized my card is a bit flawed, both in terms of balance and wording.

I almost made the mistake of submitting too quickly again. I'm going to sleep on this one and look at it again in the morning.

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Treasure for DH. Thoughts?

@Anchorm4n the problem is that I want to tie it to the Portal Keeper theme of Felhounds

I’ve got two ideas so far but not sure how I can post them here on mobile. Imgur sucks.

Anyway, the ideas are:

1. Amalgamate - Witchwood Passive

Passive. Your minions this run have all minion types.

 - predictable, fun, but kinda boring design

2. V-07-TR-0N MK. II - Dalaran Legendary

(5) 2/2 Mech

Battlecry: Discover 3 Magnetic Mechs (from any class) and attach them to this minion.

 - imo, more interesting than the first idea but it’s subject to higher RNG

- there’s a bunch of variants to this idea too, my favorite being to discover a mech for each boss you’ve beaten

Heres mine 

Best of luck to all

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Alright, this is my first idea. It needs some work, but this is just the first thing I thought of.

Love the concept! it make you think about what to attac

Is this too strong? I used the "cast on draw" to blunt the power a little bit since you wont necessarily be able to control the buff timing

I'll preface this by saying 1) I've never won a card design, and 2) I'm thinking about cards *I* would choose if they were offered to me, so I recognize my particular play style is not the same as everyone else's, so take everything with a chunk of salt. But:

Demonxz95 - That's very strong, and would pair well with other spell-treasures. I would definitely grab that on a later offering if I already had a good spell-based deck. 4 stars

h0lysatan - I loved Annoy-o Horn - it got me out of so many bad situations by giving a few extra turns to try and draw a turnaround. Would absolutely take that. 5 stars.

KANSAS - I can't imagine a situation in which I would take that sorry - maybe remove the "can't attack heroes" and you get some play since it would (ideally) be 25 face dmg, but there's no way you wouldn't be dead really quickly with that. Great art though. 1 star

linkblade91 - I can definitely see the value, but that card strikes me as a "card of last resort" - with so many of the adventures you're wouldn't be fishing for a finisher, you'd be fishing for a lifeline which could be valuable. I would likely take it if my deck was garbage just to try and limp it out to the boss. 3 stars

DestroyerR - I like the card and based on the suggestion about raising stats but your counter - what about if you split the difference? to whit: make it like Rin, the First Disciple's seals- the first demon you draw is a 1/1, the second 2/2 and on so that the last one is a 15/15 (mini-ZANCIENT ONE). 3 stars as-is, 5 stars if you follow my obviously correct suggestion :)

anchorm4n - This feels super balanced - it would be fantastic against some stages and useless against others. and I alwys went for minion buffs like Captured Flag, Giant's Ring, etc. so would definitely take it. 5 stars

DescentOfDragonsOp - I would lower the cost to 2 since it's random spells - RNGesus is not always kind. 3 stars.

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Is this too strong? I used the "cast on draw" to blunt the power a little bit since you wont necessarily be able to control the buff timing

Very nice card 

However this gets better the less cards you have because your more likely to get it

i would susgest give you minions +1/+1 leave the healing the same just so the buffs dont get too insane

Got 2 ideas! Expecting your comments / nerf or buff suggestions! 

ok go ahead notorious owl

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Hold! is just a worse version of Titanic Ring

Tasty Meat/Krush is the better option, but for some more punch I might 1) give it Twinspell, or 2) maybe make it something like "Meat's Back on the Menu!" (references!) and have it summon 2 King Krushs rather than just one.

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I'll preface this by saying 1) I've never won a card design, and 2) I'm thinking about cards *I* would choose if they were offered to me, so I recognize my particular play style is not the same as everyone else's, so take everything with a chunk of salt. But:

KANSAS - I can't imagine a situation in which I would take that sorry - maybe remove the "can't attack heroes" and you get some play since it would (ideally) be 25 face dmg, but there's no way you wouldn't be dead really quickly with that. Great art though. 1 star

 

Thanks for the feedback. I didn't want the sword to just be "deal 50 damage to your opponents face" but you are right that as it is now you would be taking too much damage for it to be worth it. I ended up ditching the double damage, but it was hard to find a good design for the "cursed" theme that both had an upside and a downside that wasn't too overpowered, too underpowered, or too complicated. So I came up with this, what do you think?

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I'll preface this by saying 1) I've never won a card design, and 2) I'm thinking about cards *I* would choose if they were offered to me, so I recognize my particular play style is not the same as everyone else's, so take everything with a chunk of salt. But:

KANSAS - I can't imagine a situation in which I would take that sorry - maybe remove the "can't attack heroes" and you get some play since it would (ideally) be 25 face dmg, but there's no way you wouldn't be dead really quickly with that. Great art though. 1 star

 

Thanks for the feedback. I didn't want the sword to just be "deal 50 damage to your opponents face" but you are right that as it is now you would be taking too much damage for it to be worth it. I ended up ditching the double damage, but it was hard to find a good design for the "cursed" theme that both had an upside and a downside that wasn't too overpowered, too underpowered, or too complicated. So I came up with this, what do you think?

I think that is MUCH better - moreso being KoC given how many of those dungeon run bosses ran token-y decks where you'd want to clear the board ASAP ahead of buffs.  

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I'll preface this by saying 1) I've never won a card design, and 2) I'm thinking about cards *I* would choose if they were offered to me, so I recognize my particular play style is not the same as everyone else's, so take everything with a chunk of salt. But:

KANSAS - I can't imagine a situation in which I would take that sorry - maybe remove the "can't attack heroes" and you get some play since it would (ideally) be 25 face dmg, but there's no way you wouldn't be dead really quickly with that. Great art though. 1 star

 

Thanks for the feedback. I didn't want the sword to just be "deal 50 damage to your opponents face" but you are right that as it is now you would be taking too much damage for it to be worth it. I ended up ditching the double damage, but it was hard to find a good design for the "cursed" theme that both had an upside and a downside that wasn't too overpowered, too underpowered, or too complicated. So I came up with this, what do you think?

this is a great re-ivention of the card it allows you to clear alot without taking alot of damage 

How are people posting images? Are they hosting somewhere other than imgur?

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How are people posting images? Are they hosting somewhere other than imgur?

http://www.hearthcards.net/

When you generate a card, you have an option to create a permanent link. You can use the temporary link, but the card will disappear in like 3 days.

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I'm having second thoughts on the 10 durability.

At 10 attack you can basically kill anything that doesn't have divine shield, and you get to do that 10 times. I don't think you will be attacking with this every turn, and I don't think most games will be 10 turns long. Especially considering that most of the time you won't be playing this on turn 1. Would this be better as a 10/5? Or maybe I could keep the 10 durability but make it less efficient at killing. Would a 5/10, or maybe a 3/15 be better?

Good luck to everyone

Thanks for the feedback. I'm not an english speaker so i was struggling with the card text.

This looks better!

Alright, I dropped my Mech idea because it was just a big minion. Here are my other 2 ideas:

Amalgamate - Pretty simple idea. This makes deckbuilding and choosing minions much more interesting. However I’m not sure this is real original.

Cursed Sarcophagus - This is a more complex idea. As your deck gets more bloated, you can use this to clear out a bunch of unwanted cards from your deck. It also works very well with card generation (since they don’t start in your deck) and against the last boss (since your deck goes away whether you win or lose)

i noticed that theres not alot of cards made in this comp when compared to how to train year dragon comp 

maybe its creativity issues  or maybe were just so early into this competition that not alot of people inserted designs yet

A Tombs of Terror treasure that summons the four Uldum League members with their battlecries. Not much to say about it except that it is a big swing but could be tricky to best use while accounting for all four battlecry effects.

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so basically you spend 10 mana to summon an 8/8 with charge deal 10 damage to random enemy minions duplicate your hand ,and discover an upgraded hero power 

AND summon a 4/6 a 5/5 a 2/4, and a 2/3 

yeah seems op for 10 mana but really cool concept 

either 2 or 3 stars

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so basically you spend 10 mana to summon an 8/8 with charge deal 10 damage to random enemy minions duplicate your hand ,and discover an upgraded hero power 

AND summon a 4/6 a 5/5 a 2/4, and a 2/3 

yeah seems op for 10 mana but really cool concept 

either 2 or 3 stars

Although one must remember that it is a treasure card which have much higher power caps than normal cards.

Compared to Wish, it doesn't look too overpowered to me.

crap you right 4 star

@ArngrimUndying your suggestion still doesn’t answer my counter though...

Can I submit a Bob's Tavern spell as my entry?

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Can I submit a Bob's Tavern spell as my entry?

Had I remembered about those when I made this prompt, I would've said yes.

However, as it isn't specified in the rules, it's probably best that you don't.

Ah well. Thank you for the reply nevertheless.

With the finalist phase approching pretty soon what card do you think should win and why 

(please dont say your own)

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With the finalist phase approching pretty soon what card do you think should win and why 

(please dont say your own)

Honestly, Rodney the Mischievous  is pretty up there for me. It’s the perfect implementation of variation in the run without being too random 

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With the finalist phase approching pretty soon what card do you think should win and why 

(please dont say your own)

Honestly, Rodney the Mischievous  is pretty up there for me. It’s the perfect implementation of variation in the run without being too random 

I don't know. He seems kinda fun, but honestly, I would rather play with a strategy that I planned out than a random one each round. 

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With the finalist phase approching pretty soon what card do you think should win and why 

(please dont say your own)

Personally i gave 4 5 stars and ill explain why

Mark of Dalran: This card gave me the inspiration to make my treasure (which didnt make it in) but the ability for is a really good one in general 

Temple golem: realy op card and 100% if this was a treasure card i will pick it all the time

Archthevirey: love the concept of this although not a good viable treasure if i want to meme a run this is somthing i would pick

Rodney the mischevious: the concept is good and is a very creative design however like Archthevirey i dont think it will see play considering the swaping part and if you make a good run deck or selected some good treasures you probably dont want those to be nullified 

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With the finalist phase approaching pretty soon what card do you think should win and why 

(please don't say your own)

Personally i gave four 5 stars and I'll explain why

Temple golem: really op card and 100% if this was a treasure card i will pick it all the time

I personally don't think Temple Golem is terribly OP. He is a 5 mana 5/5 reborn, which is fair. But the copying ability seems slow, and most of the time I would rather grab a passive treasure which is constantly helping me win rather than a single strong minion with a lot of stats.

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With the finalist phase approaching pretty soon what card do you think should win and why 

(please don't say your own)

Personally i gave four 5 stars and I'll explain why

Temple golem: really op card and 100% if this was a treasure card i will pick it all the time

I personally don't think Temple Golem is terribly OP. He is a 5 mana 5/5 reborn, which is fair. But the copying ability seems slow, and most of the time I would rather grab a passive treasure which is constantly helping me win rather than a single strong minion with a lot of stats.

but the thing is the summon another one for each boss you defeated where on your 5th boss if you play temple golem you summon 5 5/5 with rush and reborn 

i guess its just that we have diffrent ways to play dungeon run

I’m gonna comment quickly on the finalists. I won’t say how I rated them, but there are a few I’m a bit critical of.

Mark of Dalaran - A very powerful passive that would likely be offered late in a run. It might break some spell treasures. Not much else to say. Very fun and powerful.

Amalgamate - My card. 

Temple Golem - This feels extremely strong late in a run. 5 mana make a sticky board. Great synergy with Rush, Taunt, and other minion buff passives. I feel like this should cost more.

Answer the Call - I like this one because it provides a number of cool effects and good minions but it’s not an instant game win. This could probably be slightly cheaper. Very fun and flavorful card.

Archthievery - No. Please no. It’s a fun idea for one time, but this ruins deckbuilding and will lose you runs. And it would take up slots from actual good treasures.

Nicky, the Retriever - I started off not liking this card, but honestly I think it’s fine. Fun effect but not super strong.

The Last Lantern - This is a last resort card, and summoning a 20/20 with no other effects will not save you games. Good flavor but this will be a dead card most games.

Rodney the Mischievous - For the same reason as Archthievery, this ruins deckbuilding. The RNG might get you better treasures when you need it, but it’s just as likely to screw you over. RNG can be fun (that’s what the dungeons are made of!) but this isn’t

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With the finalist phase approaching pretty soon what card do you think should win and why 

(please don't say your own)

Personally i gave four 5 stars and I'll explain why

Temple golem: really op card and 100% if this was a treasure card i will pick it all the time

I personally don't think Temple Golem is terribly OP. He is a 5 mana 5/5 reborn, which is fair. But the copying ability seems slow, and most of the time I would rather grab a passive treasure which is constantly helping me win rather than a single strong minion with a lot of stats.

but the thing is the summon another one for each boss you defeated where on your 5th boss if you play temple golem you summon five 5/5 with rush and reborn 

I guess it's just that we have different ways to play dungeon run

I am pretty sure they don't have rush, if they did it would be pretty powerful. But as the card is now it isn't much more spectacular than any other treasure minion with a lot of stats.

I haven't had a chance to vote yet but I am really liking the look of Amalgamate (a straightforward effect that opens up a world of weirdness!) and Answer the Call (surprised this wasn't an official Tombs of Terror treasure).

I've seen a comment or two about The Last Lantern (my card) and totally agree with what's been said. It was very much designed as a flavour card to suit the catacombs and an interesting last resort that could potentially swing a run here or there, not a must-choose. In hindsight I could have made it slightly more playable if I had simply bumped up the cost to (4) or (5) and removed the empty hand mechanic. Honestly, I'm just happy it's even been mentioned and that you guys like the flavour :)

Finally, congrats to everyone in the finals and well done to everyone who submitted a design! This was a fun competition theme - already looking forward to what Shivershine comes up with for next week.

I think I may be the only one who doesn't like amalgamate. I like the interesting yet simple design, and it is a pretty neat effect that can be used in a lot of ways. The only thing I don't like about it; it is a dungeon run treasure. When you cannot build your own deck, this ability just feels super irrelevant 90% of the time. There is no way I would ever pick this over something like "all minions get buff X". So while it is a very interesting card that has a lot of potential and a ton of different interactions with different tribal buffs, I just don't see this card EVER happening in a dungeon-run style format.

Mark of Dalaran makes it so your spells have permanent Echo, since the effect also applies to the Twinspell copy...

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Mark of Dalaran makes it so your spells have permanent Echo, since the effect also applies to the Twinspell copy...

I also thought about this as well. The original version I had was worded to circumvent that.

Everyone on Discord though told me that it didn't need it, so I posted it without it.

Beyond that, I don't think it's that difficult to deduce what the intention was.

Oh, I didn’t know it was YOU who made the card! Sorry if I sounded rude. But yeah, this doesn’t work mechanic-wise

Sadly no Rumble run treasures in the finalists

Shirvala's protection and that one warlock card with Overkill: remove the top 5 cards of your opponents deck were the ones i really liked and i belive had a chance of the finals

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Sadly no Rumble run treasures in the finalists

Shirvala's protection and that one warlock card with Overkill: remove the top 5 cards of your opponents deck were the ones i really liked and i belive had a chance of the finals

 

I also liked the minion with Overkill, thought that would have made quite a few of the challenger shrines much easier to deal with. Since it's an auto-remove it's not like it would hang around too long either; I thought it was balanced as far as treasures go.

I like the other finalists here, a lot of cool ideas. I think this was a harder theme to come up with cards for because of the power level being a whole lot higher than normal. But I like the ideas that everyone came up with (Mark of Dalaran and Rodney being my two favorites). May the best card win!

Now if you were to win a WCDC what would your theme be

I would really like to have a music themed competition where you would have to make a card based off of a song. 

Or you could do some other kind of pop-culture type thing where you make a card based off of a movie/book. Or maybe even another game. But I think I would enjoy music the best.

Congrats Demonxz! Your card was great, I'm kind of surprised they didn't have that in the actual Dalaran Heist.

Congratulations Demonxz, a worthy win indeed. :)

And thanks to everyone who voted for The Last Lantern from 1 to 5. Never expected to be in a design comp final, you guys made my week :D

Cool competition! I like the winner, gave it a high score. Congratz Demonxz!

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Go figure I'd win my own competition, lol.

I apologize if this competition was too hard for a lot of people. In retrospect, this competition might've been too hard for it only being the second one on this site.

You can't get better at something without a little challenge! It was a pretty major step in difficulty compared to week 1, but it was still a lot of fun and there were a lot of great cards submitted!