It is always safe to disenchant a nerfed card - you can always recraft it with no dust lost. That being said, I think Illucia has been gutted. She used to be a pretty strong disruption tool, but now, she's an alright tool for longer matches. Not all that good though, and definitely a massive nerf.
Honestly, the only time I've been like "I must get Legend" was when I got close unintentionally and figured I may as well make the push. Especially after the first time and getting the card back. Also to get the free Legendary for reaching the mark after the revamp. Other than that, I live by this philosophy as well. It's how I am able to spend my time playing Even Totem Shaman in Wild, Hero Power Mage in Standard (which, the Tempo based version I've got right now... getting some surprising wins!), among other stuff. I keep trying Metamorphosis OTK in Wild for DH, but it's just too slow! The DH QL could MAYBE get you there, but the issue is the format itself is too fast for a combo like that. Same with a Malygos Warlock! Takes too much set up.
But yeah, I just get that minimum rank into the Diamond 10, maybe D5, and then play what I want and try out weird and wacky shit for kicks.
where dumpster legend was always a safe place for off-meta, I meet way too many of the linear try-hard decks now (hyper aggro, quest mages etc.). There is very little space for my personal preferred playstyle atm.
Potential solution would be to quick rank up to Diamond 10/5, then play whatever you want, and if you want Legend make the push in the last week/days of the month with meta decks again.
A lot of the Wild streamers especially often stay in the Diamond ranks if they can because it allows them to get some good highlight wins with off meta stuff for their YouTube channels. Roffle specifically was Diamond his last stream of September, then his first sign in on stream in October it showed he achieved Legend rank because he grinded some meta deck off stream. Might seem tedious, but could be the solution to not getting completely burnt out on the game in the long run.
The buildings you can't do without are absolutely free. You have everything you need to get the feel for the game without spending anything, not even gold. That's all the free-to-play portion of any game is -- a chance to get your feet wet and see if you like it.
And don't forget, you're earning Reward Track XP (i.e., gold) as you play, so it's reasonable that you'd be asked to reinvest some of that back into the mode where you earned it. If you'd rather spend the gold on cards, that's your business, but all that means is Mercenaries isn't that important to you. There's nothing wrong with that. We all make decisions based on our own desires.
I personally think Mercenaries is worth way more than a few hundred gold.
And at the time he'd had his hands on the game for what, a couple of days?
I don't think it's outrageous for a primarily PvE game to require you to do PvE for more than a couple of days to max out your dudes. If you think it's a grind, that just means you don't actually enjoy the game, and that's fine. There are other modes like BGs for people who are allergic to progression-based play.
The Frost Ping Mage deck is a lot of fun, even more so with double-Battlecries for my two copies of Mordresh Fire Eye. Your hand fills up fast with those Ice Shards, though, especially if you use Reckless Apprentice.
Tried the Deathrattle Hunter in this list and I was lucky enough to get offered Staking A Claim and Meek Mastery. I got Grimmer Patron and Gentlemen's top Hat as treasures. Being able to drop Grimmer Patron as 4/4 on turn 1 with coin win me two or three games Itself. Ended up with a 12-2 run.
No, not really enjoying HS right now. I like to play a LOT of different decks, and I like big impactful cards. Unfortunately in the current metagame, a huge part of my (pretty large) collection is unplayable.
I used to play every evening. Now I mostly play dailies. When I do play, I just quickly get legend, so I can play some off-meta fun stuff in dumpster legend.
However, where dumpster legend was always a safe place for off-meta, I meet way too many of the linear try-hard decks now (hyper aggro, quest mages etc.). There is very little space for my personal preferred playstyle atm.
900-1500 gold seems very reasonable. If you could just upgrade right away to the highest level with no cost, then what would be the point? The point is to have a certain sense of progression.
Alternatively, they could have locked upgrades behind a certain amount of gameplay (eg: Upgrade Campfire when you get 2 Mercenaries to Level 10)
While I have had some days of really getting frustrated with this game, overall I am still having fun with the game, yes! If you aren't having fun you may wonder, "How?" Well, frankly I'm playing in the Diamond ranks and I just play whatever I feel like playing while not being too concerned about how high I climb beyond Diamond 10. Diamond 5 is kind of my big goal for the month, but not Legend. I've gotten it a few times so I have my card back, and I'm not trying to go pro here, so I just play fun stuff. If I get matched up against an unfun deck? I will try but likely just concede and move on it it's unwinnable!
In all honesty, the QL Mages must be in ranks above me because I haven't noticed them much. The same for Wild and Even Locks, it's a really good deck but I'm not seeing it much. The QL Hunters are everywhere, but I've been beating them okay with my Even Totem Shaman. I've also been surprising a few people in Standard lately with a Hero Power Mage deck because they are probably basing their mulligan off of the expectation I'll be QL Mage. Overall the deck is 9-10, but after some refinement the last nine games were 6-3. Only faced two Mages so far with it and I'm 1-1. Going for a bit of a Tempo deck with few spells and a couple cards that focus on drawing spells to try and guarantee I find one or both Wildfires each game.
To summarize, fun is subjective and if the meta goes against what you find subjectively fun it's going to suck for you unfortunately. But if you try to just relax, not get too serious about grinding and ladder climbing, I bet you can still find something fun about the game. If you can't, maybe it's time to take a break.
While I may still be having a fun time overall, I'm also excited for Mercs to bring in a fresh new game mode that I might actually enjoy playing this time. Something to break up the monotony of constructed for the times I do get frustrated, because I'm not a Duels guy, I'm too cheap to risk gold on Arena runs, and BGs is also not my cup of tea (but still what I turn to when I want to play Hearthstone but need a Constructed break).
There is no good counter against "combo-control-aggro" all-in-one quest mage. they just clear the board, ping your face then close the quest and finish you with a lot of damage.
In contrast I am trying to play quest priest which could easily benefit from a little buff.
Quest steps being 2,3,4 5,6 7,8 don't leave much choice but to play slow and control.
The quest can't be closed before turn 11 with a perfect curve and regardless of what opponent does...
Against aggro this is just suicide..not to forget also the watch posts just hurt your hand more than with any other deck!
Say priest quest costs steps should go 2,3-4,5-6,7 instead, then the quest would still not complete until turn 10 AT BEST but essentially you wouldn't have to play stupid turn 8 cards, and could go a little more mid.
Of course, that and also nerf that stupid mage quest?
I would suggest for Mage Quest either only +2 permanent spell dmg bonus, or maybe just add extra requirement to cast one Fel spell for every level (see what I did there?)
I really don't think it's possible for me to have fun with these questlines so prominent. I can play some Battlegrounds, but playing the actual game just feels awful most of the time, and I usually end up conceding early on if they play a questline and get off to any kind of decent start. It's juts not fun at all for me, in any way, and I find myself angry at the other player, and at the makers of the game for ruining one of my few hobbies.
I think it would cool to have streamer heroes too; It ould never happen for the same reason Blizz is no longer naming characters after employees I imagine.
Reminder: Full Dust Refunds for Hearthstone's September Card Nerfs End Soon!
It is always safe to disenchant a nerfed card - you can always recraft it with no dust lost. That being said, I think Illucia has been gutted. She used to be a pretty strong disruption tool, but now, she's an alright tool for longer matches. Not all that good though, and definitely a massive nerf.
Are you enjoying HS now?
Honestly, the only time I've been like "I must get Legend" was when I got close unintentionally and figured I may as well make the push. Especially after the first time and getting the card back. Also to get the free Legendary for reaching the mark after the revamp. Other than that, I live by this philosophy as well. It's how I am able to spend my time playing Even Totem Shaman in Wild, Hero Power Mage in Standard (which, the Tempo based version I've got right now... getting some surprising wins!), among other stuff. I keep trying Metamorphosis OTK in Wild for DH, but it's just too slow! The DH QL could MAYBE get you there, but the issue is the format itself is too fast for a combo like that. Same with a Malygos Warlock! Takes too much set up.
But yeah, I just get that minimum rank into the Diamond 10, maybe D5, and then play what I want and try out weird and wacky shit for kicks.
Reminder: Full Dust Refunds for Hearthstone's September Card Nerfs End Soon!
Does anyone think Illucia is still be playable in wild? or that it has a niche?
Big Demon Warlock!
Slow, and needs Board removal and health regeneration cards.
Are you enjoying HS now?
Might give that a try this month. Good suggestion! (A pity it has come to this though)
Are you enjoying HS now?
Potential solution would be to quick rank up to Diamond 10/5, then play whatever you want, and if you want Legend make the push in the last week/days of the month with meta decks again.
A lot of the Wild streamers especially often stay in the Diamond ranks if they can because it allows them to get some good highlight wins with off meta stuff for their YouTube channels. Roffle specifically was Diamond his last stream of September, then his first sign in on stream in October it showed he achieved Legend rank because he grinded some meta deck off stream. Might seem tedious, but could be the solution to not getting completely burnt out on the game in the long run.
Starting October Right With the Best 12-Win Hearthstone Duels Meta Decks to Play
Grimmer Patron looks like a perfect Active Treasure for that list. Congrats for the result!
Friends Challenge exchange!
You probably want to post in the main thread for friend challenges.
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How Expensive Are Hearthstone's Mercenaries Buildings? Includes the New Training Grounds Building
The buildings you can't do without are absolutely free. You have everything you need to get the feel for the game without spending anything, not even gold. That's all the free-to-play portion of any game is -- a chance to get your feet wet and see if you like it.
And don't forget, you're earning Reward Track XP (i.e., gold) as you play, so it's reasonable that you'd be asked to reinvest some of that back into the mode where you earned it. If you'd rather spend the gold on cards, that's your business, but all that means is Mercenaries isn't that important to you. There's nothing wrong with that. We all make decisions based on our own desires.
I personally think Mercenaries is worth way more than a few hundred gold.
Hearthstone Mercenaries Goes Full Pokemon - The Training Hall Brings Daycare to Level Up Your Mercenaries Automatically
And at the time he'd had his hands on the game for what, a couple of days?
I don't think it's outrageous for a primarily PvE game to require you to do PvE for more than a couple of days to max out your dudes. If you think it's a grind, that just means you don't actually enjoy the game, and that's fine. There are other modes like BGs for people who are allergic to progression-based play.
Starting October Right With the Best 12-Win Hearthstone Duels Meta Decks to Play
The Frost Ping Mage deck is a lot of fun, even more so with double-Battlecries for my two copies of Mordresh Fire Eye. Your hand fills up fast with those Ice Shards, though, especially if you use Reckless Apprentice.
Darkseeker's channel - 13th November update: KOtsosKOtsos' Reno Evolve Shudderwock Shaman - ft. Archivist Elysiana
3rd October update: EUPyramidHead's Reno Tax Druid: Maiev Shadowsong MVP! / Cornelius Roame MVP!
Reno Druid. It rocks as an off-meta deck. Great fun. Give it a try if you have the cards!
https://www.reddit.com/r/wildhearthstone/comments/pwkbia/wild_unusual_decks_11_hello_everyone_wild_is/
Deck code: AAEBAZICHtQF5QeIDvoOwxbNuwKRvALkwgLfxAKbywKR0AKC4gL/5wL0ogP8owP7rQP9sAPtvgPG0QPR0QOL1QOm4QOM5AP36AO57APu8QOI9AP09gPY+QPWoAQAAA==
https://youtu.be/ZY14YTyP2SA
Dean Ayala's Hearthstone Community Q&A #31 - Bigger Expansion to End 2022, Warcraft Diversity, Battlegrounds Streamer Heroes, and More
Yeah, between bronze and gold, where almost nobody plays. HSReplay stats are completely unreliable, use vS instead.
Alec Dawson, Lead Designer on Final Design, Leaves the Hearthstone Team
kek
Starting October Right With the Best 12-Win Hearthstone Duels Meta Decks to Play
Tried the Deathrattle Hunter in this list and I was lucky enough to get offered Staking A Claim and Meek Mastery. I got Grimmer Patron and Gentlemen's top Hat as treasures. Being able to drop Grimmer Patron as 4/4 on turn 1 with coin win me two or three games Itself. Ended up with a 12-2 run.
Are you enjoying HS now?
No, not really enjoying HS right now. I like to play a LOT of different decks, and I like big impactful cards. Unfortunately in the current metagame, a huge part of my (pretty large) collection is unplayable.
I used to play every evening. Now I mostly play dailies. When I do play, I just quickly get legend, so I can play some off-meta fun stuff in dumpster legend.
However, where dumpster legend was always a safe place for off-meta, I meet way too many of the linear try-hard decks now (hyper aggro, quest mages etc.). There is very little space for my personal preferred playstyle atm.
How Expensive Are Hearthstone's Mercenaries Buildings? Includes the New Training Grounds Building
900-1500 gold seems very reasonable. If you could just upgrade right away to the highest level with no cost, then what would be the point? The point is to have a certain sense of progression.
Alternatively, they could have locked upgrades behind a certain amount of gameplay (eg: Upgrade Campfire when you get 2 Mercenaries to Level 10)
Are you enjoying HS now?
While I have had some days of really getting frustrated with this game, overall I am still having fun with the game, yes! If you aren't having fun you may wonder, "How?" Well, frankly I'm playing in the Diamond ranks and I just play whatever I feel like playing while not being too concerned about how high I climb beyond Diamond 10. Diamond 5 is kind of my big goal for the month, but not Legend. I've gotten it a few times so I have my card back, and I'm not trying to go pro here, so I just play fun stuff. If I get matched up against an unfun deck? I will try but likely just concede and move on it it's unwinnable!
In all honesty, the QL Mages must be in ranks above me because I haven't noticed them much. The same for Wild and Even Locks, it's a really good deck but I'm not seeing it much. The QL Hunters are everywhere, but I've been beating them okay with my Even Totem Shaman. I've also been surprising a few people in Standard lately with a Hero Power Mage deck because they are probably basing their mulligan off of the expectation I'll be QL Mage. Overall the deck is 9-10, but after some refinement the last nine games were 6-3. Only faced two Mages so far with it and I'm 1-1. Going for a bit of a Tempo deck with few spells and a couple cards that focus on drawing spells to try and guarantee I find one or both Wildfires each game.
To summarize, fun is subjective and if the meta goes against what you find subjectively fun it's going to suck for you unfortunately. But if you try to just relax, not get too serious about grinding and ladder climbing, I bet you can still find something fun about the game. If you can't, maybe it's time to take a break.
While I may still be having a fun time overall, I'm also excited for Mercs to bring in a fresh new game mode that I might actually enjoy playing this time. Something to break up the monotony of constructed for the times I do get frustrated, because I'm not a Duels guy, I'm too cheap to risk gold on Arena runs, and BGs is also not my cup of tea (but still what I turn to when I want to play Hearthstone but need a Constructed break).
Group Therapy! Need to blow off some steam? Mega salty? Here's the place!
Just got dumped by Blizzard's shitty server when about to win a game. Fucking shit company.
Are you enjoying HS now?
Im enjoying Arena which i have since beta, and also BG a little bit in between.
Anything else isnt fun for me anymore and i dont think Merc will change that much.
Are you enjoying HS now?
There is no good counter against "combo-control-aggro" all-in-one quest mage. they just clear the board, ping your face then close the quest and finish you with a lot of damage.
In contrast I am trying to play quest priest which could easily benefit from a little buff.
Quest steps being 2,3,4 5,6 7,8 don't leave much choice but to play slow and control.
The quest can't be closed before turn 11 with a perfect curve and regardless of what opponent does...
Against aggro this is just suicide..not to forget also the watch posts just hurt your hand more than with any other deck!
Say priest quest costs steps should go 2,3-4,5-6,7 instead, then the quest would still not complete until turn 10 AT BEST but essentially you wouldn't have to play stupid turn 8 cards, and could go a little more mid.
Of course, that and also nerf that stupid mage quest?
I would suggest for Mage Quest either only +2 permanent spell dmg bonus, or maybe just add extra requirement to cast one Fel spell for every level (see what I did there?)
Lets play a game - Non-existing cards
Are you enjoying HS now?
I really don't think it's possible for me to have fun with these questlines so prominent. I can play some Battlegrounds, but playing the actual game just feels awful most of the time, and I usually end up conceding early on if they play a questline and get off to any kind of decent start. It's juts not fun at all for me, in any way, and I find myself angry at the other player, and at the makers of the game for ruining one of my few hobbies.
Dean Ayala's Hearthstone Community Q&A #31 - Bigger Expansion to End 2022, Warcraft Diversity, Battlegrounds Streamer Heroes, and More
I think it would cool to have streamer heroes too; It ould never happen for the same reason Blizz is no longer naming characters after employees I imagine.