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why not add hardonox?

Any updates on this topic? This would be a very convenient function.

It's the new Spiteful Summoner, but I don't think any class other than Druid or Hunter would think of playing it. Druids can ramp up to it pretty quickly, while some streamers are already building some minion-heavy Hunter decks with Nagrand Slam and Guardian Animals as their only spells to take advantage of Primordial Protector. But other than that, no, I don't think this card is broken, and I'll be surprised to see it nerfed. 

It's definitely gonna be nerfed as soon as this week. It's the first week of an expansion and my friends list is dead. I'm guessing they got tired of the Deck of Lunacy meta already, which is unusual. 

I've tinkered a bit with the deck myself only because I have Deck of Lunacy and the deck itself is pretty cheap, so why not. It's incredibly powerful. I went 20-16 with it, but there was a point when I won 10 straight games and most of my losses were to other Lunacy Mages who were just luckier than me with their draws and highrolls. 

And that's the most frustrating thing about that deck: it's powerful yet very random. There's really no gameplay or planning involved between two players; either one who draws Deck of Lunacy first probably wins, and opponents facing the deck have no way of knowing what to expect once that card is played, so it turns in a clown fiesta. It's bad for ladder when a card that's obviously meant to be a meme is dictating the meta right now, and no wonder people are pissed. It got boring to play after a while because of the randomness. 

Well, it seems like i'm not missing anything from not playing in the last week. I only played day 1 and it was okay but i'm into other games right now and i decided to wait and see what was going to happen. If Lunacy Mage is on the top then i'm definitely not playing until it gets nerfed. I already disliked that load of bs but it only got better with the rotation, it seems. And Secret Paladin was going to become a problem anyway. That weapon is completely disgusting and the secrets aren't bad anymore. There's no downside to it.

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Oh, I just got a very funny way to nerf Deck of Lunacy. Be really lunatic and for the transformed spells use the whole pool of spell, even wild ones. This will dillute the pool of good spells.

For Hardcor Rancor (gain 14 armor with a single Rancor) you don't need a full board if you already have some armor. As long as Rancor nets it to 14 or more you should get the achievement. I'm pretty sure that's how I just got mine.

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Its an 8 mana card. 

Yes, this means Druid will rarely play it earlier than tun 4, sometime it will even be delayed to turn 5

I have no problem with Paladin, but I think Mage is so annoying. You're pit against these cards that were cost a certain amount for the sake of balance. Nagrand Slam costs 10 for a reason, and that reason is mostly that it shouldn't be played on turn 7.

If the deck does get nerfed, I hope they continue with their current way of balancing and nerf with a scalpel and not a chainsaw. A small nerf to Deck of Lunacy like making the transformed spells only cost 2 less or only transform spells into ones that cost 2 more that keep their original costs could be enough. If it isn't, they can always rebalance it in another patch. 

I really dislike the deck, but I am completely against the idea that any card or deck should be gutted into being entirely unviable. I feel like there must be a way to reduce the power level of the deck without ruining it for the people that enjoy playing it.

He already said he is ALONE on the team in his passion of an AI ladder

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I agree with you, however there is one solution.

Face Hunter

Yes, for real

It absolutely decimates Lunacy Mage and does decently against Paladin.

 

I'm not saying that these classes don't need to get nerfed severely, but until that happens you can always....make them suffer.

Thats why I am playing Burn Shaman lol, it destroys mage, is a bit worse against libram pally though, but I haven't lost to many of those. 

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I'm sorry, but i haven't play standard in a while. What's so good about lunacy mage? Isn't that a deck with random spells? Please enlighten me.

0 mana draw 2 in the form of Refreshing Spring Water. With cards like Incanter's Flow, there's a good chance this card even gives you mana while drawing.

And a much smaller spell pool, which is incidentally of high value, like Nagrand Slam, Skull of Gul'dan, Expendable Performers, etc. Not to mention that there's already a good number of cards that already synergizes with this kind of deck like Font of Power and Apexis Blast.

Basically, lunacy mage is incredibly consistent right now. Its not unusual to face one that basically drew 2/3s of its deck while battering you with constant high value cards. Drawn win rate is off the charts at around 70%, as compared with the other cards in the deck.

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Don't think Deck of Lunacy is the problem itself on that card nothing changed since last expansion and can generate not only good cards.

But the the rotation of 4 sets drastically improved the card pool, there is only Libram of Hope as an 9 mana outcome for example.

I'm sorry, but i haven't play standard in a while. What's so good about lunacy mage? Isn't that a deck with random spells? Please enlighten me.

Don't think Deck of Lunacy is the problem itself on that card nothing changed since last expansion and can generate not only good cards. It similar to Academic Espionage. The problem is incredibly consistent draw supported by Refreshing Spring Water. Which no one time I saw played twice on turn 4 and still 4 mana crystals remains, uffff. If Incanter's Flow was played early (can be also discovered) then it's game over even without Deck of Lunacy.

Yes it's frustrating and it would not be if this deck doesn't represent ~65% of all decks on platinum rank. The rest Tickatus-lock, few paladins and two rogues :o. (personal stats from 31 games played)

I agree with you, however there is one solution.

Face Hunter

Yes, for real

It absolutely decimates Lunacy Mage and does decently against Paladin.

I'm not saying that these classes don't need to get nerfed severely, but until that happens you can always....make them suffer.

If you're playing libram pally with kazakus, it'll brick if your libram discounts get any of the librams to 4 mana in your deck.

So for example if you play 1x Aldor Attendant, which causes your Libram of Justice to go to 4 mana, which will brick your kazakus until you play another libram discount card or draw them.

Otherwise I can't say, since its working fine for me.

I am playing a deck with Kazakus, of course with no 4 mana cards in the deck. Usually it works well ... but ...a few games ago I played Kazakus and no golem was created ... I was puzzled ... maybe a 4 mana card was created in my deck by accident ...

Today this happened again; I double checked ... no 4 mana card was in the deck, nor created ... any idea? Tks

Fixed a bug where playing Grave Rune on an enemy minion and destroying it would summon two copies of the minion on your side of the board. Doing this will now summon two copies on the opponent’s side of the board.

Wait, wasn't that feature? It exist since this card release.

The problem is the sheer brute power of Mage and Paladin. I tried Priest against mage, was like 21 life and he was getting to end of his deck, Imhad taunts but the he got randomWyrm Weaver, drew the rest of his deck (who thought draw two cards for free card is good idea?) freezed my board and next turn killed my taunts and fiňished me with two 12/2Mana Wyrms. This are the moments of complete frustration. When will Blizzard learn the negatives of mana cheats and free draws? 

Getting Lunacy Mage every game...

And if you're not matched against that then it's Secret Libram Paladin, Control Warlock, or Celestial Druid 

I could just play those decks but it gets boring for me.

Currently feeling good with this Control Priest deck list I got from Dekkster (he got it from another streamer, I think), I'm 8-1 with it so far. He said it's a real Mage-killer, and so far it is. It's currently 3-1 against Mages, with the lone loss due to the Mage having the nuts with all his burn spells in hand. Other than that, I can just heal myself back up anytime I want, and the deck's got multiple removal tools that allow me to outlast any opponent, even the most bonkers Mage turn. I beat two who played Deck of Lunacy on turn 1 or 2, and boy does it feel good. 

Thanks for the great write-ups and tips! Really appreciate the notes. I started farming the XP achievements on the 30th as soon as the expansion dropped. I am a little over 70% done according to the in-client tracker. 

My feeling is that generally the requirements are a little easier than in Darkmoon Faire (less legendaries required for sure), but some of them feel awfully grindy and take forever. I started out with the druid taunt one (Plaguemaw) and never drew him so I moved onto another class, and haven't gone back yet.

Thanks again for the write-ups!

I've had no issue completing this achievement except for Solar Eclipse's extra cast not counting. The only card you're using that I didn't in that replay is Jade Blossom. Dunno what else to tell you.