So, after a month of nerfs you will be here complaining again for whatever deck gets a positive winrate again, right. And it will all be ok, with some 4k dust wasted on our colections but you will be happily complaining about the next "oh no the devil" card. Whatever, keep wasting resources and money, blizzard likes it! every nerf, more gold and packs are thrown to the garbage, so, more money for them. hell,ask for 5 expansions a year, that would keep a healthy meta.... Have fun, if in EU send messgae, I would like you to try some of my wild decks and see the game for the fun of it,not only the HOLY meta
Ah, the cop out response. I didn't expect anything else, really. Enjoy complaining about Blizzard actually putting in some effort for once in trying to fix unbalanced decks because you can't play your broken stuff anymore. Peace.
bomb warrior may be tough but that's one reason what Archivist Elysiana is for. She wins a lot of games, like control warrior, priest; the hero of this deck and accounts for winning against every control archetype. But the best way to beat bomb warrior is early conjurers calling on a giant.
What? They literally have to do nothing to keep him up to date. He simply uses the deck recipes that are in the game since day one and are getting updated since the very first expansion
If doesn't matter if they could, they are not going to. If they were going to, then why print Zayle, Shadow Cloak which effectively does the same but shuffles out of Standard on another year?
They want those cards to have a limited lifespan, it's part of their intended design.
With the difference that Zayle uses decks specially designed for the card. Whizbang simply uses a random deck recipes, which, as I mentioned already, are updated with every expansion and sometimes inbetween anyway.
If they want a certain lifespan for a card it's possible it's gonna rotate, but to keep it active they literally have to do nothing but putting it in the classic set, without any work else as you said in your first post.
You ain't old but probably just not socially incompetent, have a real life and don't waste too much of your time in the internet while thinking all people in the real world are mean :<
Played winrate is a terrible metric to judge cards by. Of course Earthquake has a low played winrate, because you never play it when you're already winning. You only play it when trying to turn around a game in which you're far behind. This also explains why Dinotamer Brann is so far ahead of the other cards: It's very often played as a finisher, and played winrate doesn't account for all the times it's stuck in your hand. You see the same for cards like Pyroblast and Mind Blast.
late last night I was messing around with some a wild warlock when I stumbled across the dread steer + defile interaction. I know dreadsteed was changed but I found some videos pre-nerf
anyway, I got the idea to try a knife juggler + necrotic geist OTK in wild after seeing Hysteria’s video.
So, the combo is as follows: Summoning Portal, Knife Juggler, Necrotic Geist, 2x Deathspeaker, Defile, Summoning Portal Tuskarr Fisherman. As long as you get 4-5 discounted it’s fine.
Here’s link to both the Hysteria video to see the combo and the wiki. (Under notes in wiki)
You drop Emperor hoping to discount the deathspeakers, defile, and Geist. The combo takes advantage of the discount from Emperor while also getting a 2 mana Summoning Portal discount. According to the HS wiki, and is consistent with Hysteria’s video, this combination can produce 0 cost minions, as the Summoning Portal effect is applied first and then the Emperor one. Basically, you’ll be playing the 2 and 3 mana pieces for free....or so I thought. You drop the portal, geist, then juggler. After that, you give immunity to both juggler and geist, and apply +1 spell power to either. Casting defile after this creates a loop with Necrotic Geists effect that will kill your opponent no question. Although defile can cast only 14 times, it’s way more than enough for the number of knives being shot.
I’ve set this up three times and Summoning Portal will not make the minions cost 0 even with the Emperor combination. If you read the wiki and watch the video, you’ll see that the minions cost 0. I watched the video a few times now, and I don’t see any other way he could’ve gotten 0 cost minions. Looking at his discounts, he only managed to get a single tick. Each time I set this combo up, none of the minions will cost 0. I know Summoning Portal is supposed to keep minion cost at 1, but the wiki states that when used with Emperor, the minions will cost 0 if they cost 3. Again, this is what happens in Hysteria’s combo, but for some reason my minions aren’t behaving this way.
I can’t find any evidence that the way these card interactions has changed or been patched. The only thing I can think of it is that blizzard silently changed it to prevent another OTK.
Does anyone else like to play mind games with their cardback? Pirate cardback on your dead man's hand warrior, jade lotus cardback on your Aviana OTK druid, that kind of thing :) It's not so applicable in standard these days since they're not really making cardbacks for archetypes anymore but it was fun while it lasted
I haven't done this, but that's a pretty funny idea.
i just had a few questions regarding the Creations Forums and Uploading Cards but i did not find the Message Option as soon as i clicked on a Mod ... am i blind ? as far as i've read from other people it should be possible to write DM's to Mods ?
Or can i just click on Messages write the Mod Name as recipient ? is this the only way ?
Sry it the question sounds dumb but i was trying to figue this out and did not find any other way so far ...
Really fun deck, had a 40 minute long game with a highlander warlock but still managed to out value him even after he played Reno twice and got 2 cards from Zephyrs.
Being able to filter for them specifically should come with being able to filter by keyword. Once that is implemented, these two, among other things, should go in that filter.
Ah yes, because the KotFT meta was extremely healthy where the majority of the decks relied on a single card and if they did not draw that in time, they'd lose. Much like warrior with Dr. Boom, Mad Genius right now. Let's just add more of those cards and warp the meta around them once again. Fantastic idea.
Tell us then, how would you tone down warrior, for instance, by reverting nerfs/HoFs and/or buffing cards?
I really loved the KotFT meta in reality! Not tone warrior down, tone others up? You are playing what, aggro? Give more tools to other classes, aggro and quest paladin are good counters to warriors. Give more aggro tools to other classes.I think vanish is a mistake being all of famed, it would counter mage perfectly. And this is always the same, you nerf a class others appear, and more complaints, and more cards made useless. GREAT buff the one on Luna's, no one used it and now is a great card. Hopefully they had done before with Moorabi, and gave tools to freeze shaman. But it's a dead card forever. You like having useless cards printed?
You didn't answer my question. Aggro (be it paladin or any other deck, I couldn't tell from your wording) is not a counter to warrior. What are you even on about...
Luna's Pocket Galaxy is now the Barnes of standard. Mages having it on curve skyrockets their winrate to absurd amounts. This is not a healthy thing. Then again, seeing how you enjoyed the death knight meta shows you don't really know what makes a meta good or healthy to begin with.
You don't honestly expect that out of the 135 cards released per expansion, the majority of them will see competitive play, right? That is impossible to achieve and if you think otherwise you're most likely very naive or uninformed.
Edit: You also seem to be missing another crucial part. If a certain card/deck gets nerfed, it often gives way for new cards and deck archetypes to see play. As those decks were most likely being hard countered by the deck that got nerfed.
So, after a month of nerfs you will be here complaining again for whatever deck gets a positive winrate again, right. And it will all be ok, with some 4k dust wasted on our colections but you will be happily complaining about the next "oh no the devil" card. Whatever, keep wasting resources and money, blizzard likes it! every nerf, more gold and packs are thrown to the garbage, so, more money for them. hell,ask for 5 expansions a year, that would keep a healthy meta.... Have fun, if in EU send messgae, I would like you to try some of my wild decks and see the game for the fun of it,not only the HOLY meta
Ofcourse Hydrafrog is correct - card draw. With a list without it, I'd burn through the cards and sit with one minion and my opponent with 5-6 cards on hand, when I completed the quest. If the minion held I could win, but if it was removed I was down to topdecking and that never works.
So, card draw. Northshire Cleric. And then an AoE healing like Circle of Healing can help, but only if you have other creatures on the board. I've tried some games with micro aggression, Lightwarden and even Young Priestess, but even though Lightwarden was popular in zoo decks recently I am not talented enough to get it to work. I run out of steam.
So, back to slower taunts, big minions and resurrect. I am not a Priest main, but I got the quest as my free legendary of the expansion so I'll try to make it work for me.
Right now im trying the Quest in a new Wall Priest - pretty decent so far - maybe this is something to try out your Quest :)
he is bad, but deck is strong and Zephrys makes viable singleton deck, Reno just good card in the right deck. Everyone said it's good effect, but not worth creating singleton deck just for him and then Zephrys changed all, like Kazakus and Anduin maked Raza great card.
0w0 *notices your thread*
Ima just google this topic. Hopefully it won't be like that one time. Curse you 2 cupped girls!
The Way-Too-Early-Nerf Thread
Ah, the cop out response. I didn't expect anything else, really. Enjoy complaining about Blizzard actually putting in some effort for once in trying to fix unbalanced decks because you can't play your broken stuff anymore. Peace.
Trollbert's Purple Aggro Christmas Tree of Wonder!
Variations of this deck are rampant on EU ladder and its quite disgusting.
Value mage can beat everything
bomb warrior may be tough but that's one reason what Archivist Elysiana is for. She wins a lot of games, like control warrior, priest; the hero of this deck and accounts for winning against every control archetype. But the best way to beat bomb warrior is early conjurers calling on a giant.
This deck beats Reno mage and everything else :D
Will they move Whizbang to the Classic set?
With the difference that Zayle uses decks specially designed for the card. Whizbang simply uses a random deck recipes, which, as I mentioned already, are updated with every expansion and sometimes inbetween anyway.
If they want a certain lifespan for a card it's possible it's gonna rotate, but to keep it active they literally have to do nothing but putting it in the classic set, without any work else as you said in your first post.
0w0 *notices your thread*
You ain't old but probably just not socially incompetent, have a real life and don't waste too much of your time in the internet while thinking all people in the real world are mean :<
0w0 *notices your thread*
A dinosaur wants to join the team. Yeah, that's me. Like, wth, is this a new trend I have never heard of?
0w0 *notices your thread*
I have no idea whats going on.
0w0 *notices your thread*
Ditto. Am I old?
Top Saviors of Uldum Cards That Pack a Punch or Fell Flat
Played winrate is a terrible metric to judge cards by. Of course Earthquake has a low played winrate, because you never play it when you're already winning. You only play it when trying to turn around a game in which you're far behind. This also explains why Dinotamer Brann is so far ahead of the other cards: It's very often played as a finisher, and played winrate doesn't account for all the times it's stuck in your hand. You see the same for cards like Pyroblast and Mind Blast.
Emperor and Summoning Portal interaction
Hey guys
late last night I was messing around with some a wild warlock when I stumbled across the dread steer + defile interaction. I know dreadsteed was changed but I found some videos pre-nerf
anyway, I got the idea to try a knife juggler + necrotic geist OTK in wild after seeing Hysteria’s video.
So, the combo is as follows: Summoning Portal, Knife Juggler, Necrotic Geist, 2x Deathspeaker, Defile, Summoning Portal Tuskarr Fisherman. As long as you get 4-5 discounted it’s fine.
Here’s link to both the Hysteria video to see the combo and the wiki. (Under notes in wiki)
https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Summoning_Portal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0II_uz5UwAc&feature=share
You drop Emperor hoping to discount the deathspeakers, defile, and Geist. The combo takes advantage of the discount from Emperor while also getting a 2 mana Summoning Portal discount. According to the HS wiki, and is consistent with Hysteria’s video, this combination can produce 0 cost minions, as the Summoning Portal effect is applied first and then the Emperor one. Basically, you’ll be playing the 2 and 3 mana pieces for free....or so I thought. You drop the portal, geist, then juggler. After that, you give immunity to both juggler and geist, and apply +1 spell power to either. Casting defile after this creates a loop with Necrotic Geists effect that will kill your opponent no question. Although defile can cast only 14 times, it’s way more than enough for the number of knives being shot.
I’ve set this up three times and Summoning Portal will not make the minions cost 0 even with the Emperor combination. If you read the wiki and watch the video, you’ll see that the minions cost 0. I watched the video a few times now, and I don’t see any other way he could’ve gotten 0 cost minions. Looking at his discounts, he only managed to get a single tick. Each time I set this combo up, none of the minions will cost 0. I know Summoning Portal is supposed to keep minion cost at 1, but the wiki states that when used with Emperor, the minions will cost 0 if they cost 3. Again, this is what happens in Hysteria’s combo, but for some reason my minions aren’t behaving this way.
I can’t find any evidence that the way these card interactions has changed or been patched. The only thing I can think of it is that blizzard silently changed it to prevent another OTK.
Hakkar card back/favorite back?
I haven't done this, but that's a pretty funny idea.
Top Saviors of Uldum Cards That Pack a Punch or Fell Flat
And confirmation bias
Direct Messages about some Card Creation Questions
Yeah, that is the only way to write a PM to someone right now :/
Direct Messages about some Card Creation Questions
Hi there
i just had a few questions regarding the Creations Forums and Uploading Cards but i did not find the Message Option as soon as i clicked on a Mod ... am i blind ? as far as i've read from other people it should be possible to write DM's to Mods ?
Or can i just click on Messages write the Mod Name as recipient ? is this the only way ?
Sry it the question sounds dumb but i was trying to figue this out and did not find any other way so far ...
Quest Trading - Play A Friend!
Battletag: snorri#21107
Region: EU
Trade Only?: Yes
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(Legend) Reno Secret Hunter
Really fun deck, had a 40 minute long game with a highlander warlock but still managed to out value him even after he played Reno twice and got 2 cards from Zephyrs.
Card subtypes in the search Engine
Being able to filter for them specifically should come with being able to filter by keyword. Once that is implemented, these two, among other things, should go in that filter.
The Way-Too-Early-Nerf Thread
So, after a month of nerfs you will be here complaining again for whatever deck gets a positive winrate again, right. And it will all be ok, with some 4k dust wasted on our colections but you will be happily complaining about the next "oh no the devil" card.
Whatever, keep wasting resources and money, blizzard likes it! every nerf, more gold and packs are thrown to the garbage, so, more money for them.
hell,ask for 5 expansions a year, that would keep a healthy meta....
Have fun, if in EU send messgae, I would like you to try some of my wild decks and see the game for the fun of it,not only the HOLY meta
Quest Trading - Play A Friend!
Battletag: ScarletCo#2310
Region: EU
Trade Only?: Yes
Pit Crocolisk OTK!
And actually has an advantage over KK, as it hits through Taunt!
How to play the Quest
Right now im trying the Quest in a new Wall Priest - pretty decent so far - maybe this is something to try out your Quest :)
Wild · Wall Priest · by FieselFitz · 7 years, 1 month ago
Top Saviors of Uldum Cards That Pack a Punch or Fell Flat
he is bad, but deck is strong and Zephrys makes viable singleton deck, Reno just good card in the right deck. Everyone said it's good effect, but not worth creating singleton deck just for him and then Zephrys changed all, like Kazakus and Anduin maked Raza great card.
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Necromancy is fun!