Because he doesnt operate with information in your hand. He didnt know you had Eviscerate. He only operates with public information, thus information that can be also known to your opponent.
The fact the opponent had 2 secrets was public.
Receiving no tech in 6 cards is a whiff, even if he didn't know i had lethal.
"Midrange" is a hybrid deck, not one of the three main archetypes.
Basically. Midrange is what happens when you take an Aggro deck, slow it down by adding some removal, and exchange some of the cheaper minions for beefier minions that have a better chance of surviving on the board while you work toward some kind of win condition: overwhelming board pressure, a combo, or simple attrition. There's a wide range of midrange decks, and some of them win faster than others, so I don't mind the definitions this article used as they're closer to rock-paper-scissors.
Similar situation - playing against mage who had 2 or 3 secrets up so Zephrys offered Flare. Figured I'd roll the dice on one of them not being Counterspell, but alas one was so wasted card. I wonder if/how he accounts for the possibilities on secrets?
Well i personaly thought Secret Mage would be strong again - sure it´s a decent deck but defenitely not as strong as i thought it would be!
I also underestimetad Highlander Decks like Highlander Hunter - i thought this would be Garbage and not that good but it´s doing pretty good!
Secret Mage is another good one - I also thought it would be stronger than it appears to be, but since's fairly cheap (no really REQUIRED legendaries) it's worth poking around with. I'm actually having more success putting in fewer secrets in exchange for more snyergized minions and normal spells.
Because he doesnt operate with information in your hand. He didnt know you had Eviscerate. He only operates with public information, thus information that can be also known to your opponent.
I have this Ultra Budget Rogue Deck for you OP. I'm always looking for different ways to build a deck, restricting myself to a single Legendary, only a single Epic etc etc.
This deck performs OK and can be good fun depending on the steals you get.
### Burglary on a Budget # Class: Rogue # Format: Standard # Year of the Dragon # # 2x (0) Backstab # 2x (0) Shadowstep # 1x (1) Bazaar Burglary # 1x (1) Deadly Poison # 1x (1) Pharaoh Cat # 2x (1) Pilfer # 2x (2) Clever Disguise # 1x (2) Eviscerate # 2x (2) Sap # 2x (2) Underbelly Fence # 2x (3) Blink Fox # 2x (3) EVIL Miscreant # 1x (3) SI:7 Agent # 1x (3) Vulpera Scoundrel # 2x (4) Hench-Clan Burglar # 1x (4) Spirit of the Shark # 2x (4) Vendetta # 1x (4) Walk the Plank # 2x (5) Bazaar Mugger # AAECAYO6AgjLA4gH3Qi0hgPOjAOloQP1pwOnqAMLtAHtAs0Dx/gCj5cDkJcDqJgD+5oD/poDqqgDragDAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
Hey mate, looking forward to trying this out as I've also been playing a similar list of my own but i usually get taken out before pulling off the combo!
Welcome to this originally mildly salty thread, turned into a productive one!
I thought it was pretty fun to mention here all the obvious whiffs of Zephrys the Great, specifing the game context as precisely as possible.
REMINDER: zephrys the great calculates solutions based exclusively on PUBLIC elements. He does not know the identity of your cards or secrets, nor those of the opponent, but he can see that they are there and their number, plus health, weapons, board.
Let's gather enough data to improve his code!
Here i start:
(10) mana as Valeera the Hollow, with Eviscerate at hand, against Wild Secret Mage, with 2 secrets up (including ice block) and 1hp left:
i play Zephrys TWICE in the same turn, and in neither case did he offer me the SI:7 Infiltrator or Flare that could give me lethal.
It's real nice to have a daily hearthstone thread in which the comments are mostly positive. The article quality at OOC is great, do you guys have more wiggle room now you're behind the wheel?
Could this have potential in a Quest Priest deck? Buffing this and getting copies (you could damage it with stuff like Wild Pyromancer) seems like it could have some potential.
There is really no grounds for a riot. Those quests can be a part of a future event, or PVE introduction weeke or w/e. They didnt officially said anything, they only put the data in the client. Just cause someone dug it up doesnt mean they robbed us of anything by not providing the quests yet ;-)
I thought that's only from data mining, not from official bliz's announcement?
So, they might or may not implemented , or change it to other different type of quest.
Correct. Those quests were datamined, which doesnt mean they were supposed to be given right away. We shall see if we get one today, after new brawl starts or not.
I feel like there are better options than goblin bomb and leper gnome - I'd be sad if i got those late game and they don't pressure early game. I love the deck but I reckon a Jar Dealer for value, a Murmy for stickiness , or a Springpaw because beast/2 rush minions/curve fill would be more effective.
Do you guys remember the the "Welcome to Uldum" quest for logging in when the expansion released? It rewarded us 3 packs from SoU. And we were promised 3 more through 2 quests named "Onward into Uldum". One of those rewarded us 2 packs and the other one - 1. We still haven't gotten them... So the requirements for the quests are "Play the Tavern Brawl" and "Win the Tavern Brawl". So i presume we will get them today when the Tavern is out...? Any opinions?
Zephrys: the great fails
If you has played eviscerate first then he would have seen the lethal and given you SI:7, or some other from of lethal.
Zephrys: the great fails
The fact the opponent had 2 secrets was public.
Receiving no tech in 6 cards is a whiff, even if he didn't know i had lethal.
Rock, Paper, Scissors - 3 Competitive Standard Decks
Basically. Midrange is what happens when you take an Aggro deck, slow it down by adding some removal, and exchange some of the cheaper minions for beefier minions that have a better chance of surviving on the board while you work toward some kind of win condition: overwhelming board pressure, a combo, or simple attrition. There's a wide range of midrange decks, and some of them win faster than others, so I don't mind the definitions this article used as they're closer to rock-paper-scissors.
Zephrys: the great fails
Similar situation - playing against mage who had 2 or 3 secrets up so Zephrys offered Flare. Figured I'd roll the dice on one of them not being Counterspell, but alas one was so wasted card. I wonder if/how he accounts for the possibilities on secrets?
Discard Quest Warlock
Awesome. I'll give this a whirl tonight!
Surprisingly bad decks?
Secret Mage is another good one - I also thought it would be stronger than it appears to be, but since's fairly cheap (no really REQUIRED legendaries) it's worth poking around with. I'm actually having more success putting in fewer secrets in exchange for more snyergized minions and normal spells.
Zephrys: the great fails
Because he doesnt operate with information in your hand. He didnt know you had Eviscerate. He only operates with public information, thus information that can be also known to your opponent.
Uldum Essentials - Concept Art Spotlight
Keep 'em coming guys, these articles are great!
Looking for SERIOUSLY cheap budget decks.
I have this Ultra Budget Rogue Deck for you OP. I'm always looking for different ways to build a deck, restricting myself to a single Legendary, only a single Epic etc etc.
This deck performs OK and can be good fun depending on the steals you get.
### Burglary on a Budget
# Class: Rogue
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 2x (0) Backstab
# 2x (0) Shadowstep
# 1x (1) Bazaar Burglary
# 1x (1) Deadly Poison
# 1x (1) Pharaoh Cat
# 2x (1) Pilfer
# 2x (2) Clever Disguise
# 1x (2) Eviscerate
# 2x (2) Sap
# 2x (2) Underbelly Fence
# 2x (3) Blink Fox
# 2x (3) EVIL Miscreant
# 1x (3) SI:7 Agent
# 1x (3) Vulpera Scoundrel
# 2x (4) Hench-Clan Burglar
# 1x (4) Spirit of the Shark
# 2x (4) Vendetta
# 1x (4) Walk the Plank
# 2x (5) Bazaar Mugger
#
AAECAYO6AgjLA4gH3Qi0hgPOjAOloQP1pwOnqAMLtAHtAs0Dx/gCj5cDkJcDqJgD+5oD/poDqqgDragDAA==
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
TURN 7 - Mecha'thun feat. Anka, the Buried
Hey mate, looking forward to trying this out as I've also been playing a similar list of my own but i usually get taken out before pulling off the combo!
Zephrys: the great fails
Welcome to this originally mildly salty thread, turned into a productive one!
I thought it was pretty fun to mention here all the obvious whiffs of Zephrys the Great, specifing the game context as precisely as possible.
REMINDER: zephrys the great calculates solutions based exclusively on PUBLIC elements. He does not know the identity of your cards or secrets, nor those of the opponent, but he can see that they are there and their number, plus health, weapons, board.
Let's gather enough data to improve his code!
Here i start:
(10) mana as Valeera the Hollow, with Eviscerate at hand, against Wild Secret Mage, with 2 secrets up (including ice block) and 1hp left:
i play Zephrys TWICE in the same turn, and in neither case did he offer me the SI:7 Infiltrator or Flare that could give me lethal.
Only 3 redundant options: Eviscerate, Fireball, Swipe. Twice.
Rock, Paper, Scissors - 3 Competitive Standard Decks
It's real nice to have a daily hearthstone thread in which the comments are mostly positive. The article quality at OOC is great, do you guys have more wiggle room now you're behind the wheel?
Underbelly Ooze
Could this have potential in a Quest Priest deck? Buffing this and getting copies (you could damage it with stuff like Wild Pyromancer) seems like it could have some potential.
Onward into Uldum
There is really no grounds for a riot. Those quests can be a part of a future event, or PVE introduction weeke or w/e. They didnt officially said anything, they only put the data in the client. Just cause someone dug it up doesnt mean they robbed us of anything by not providing the quests yet ;-)
Onward into Uldum
If we go for riot, will you join us Sinti?
Onward into Uldum
Correct. Those quests were datamined, which doesnt mean they were supposed to be given right away. We shall see if we get one today, after new brawl starts or not.
Fan Creations Tutorial - How to Use HearthCards #1: The Basics
Interesting, how exactly do i use it? {{POSTVERT}} or {{POSTVERT=-5}} for example doesnt seem to do anything.
Onward into Uldum
I thought that's only from data mining, not from official bliz's announcement?
So, they might or may not implemented , or change it to other different type of quest.
[SoU] Mill Warlock
You're absolutly right! Thank you for that, I will correct this mistake!
building a competitive deck for standard without using any legendaries
### Budget Secrets
# Class: Hunter
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 2x (1) Secret Plan
# 2x (1) Timber Wolf
# 2x (1) Tracking
# 2x (2) Explosive Trap
# 1x (2) Freezing Trap
# 1x (2) Pressure Plate
# 2x (2) Scavenging Hyena
# 1x (2) Snipe
# 2x (3) Animal Companion
# 1x (3) Deadly Shot
# 2x (3) Eaglehorn Bow
# 2x (3) Ramkahen Wildtamer
# 2x (3) Unleash the Hounds
# 2x (4) Dire Frenzy
# 2x (4) Hyena Alpha
# 2x (4) Lifedrinker
# 2x (5) Tundra Rhino
#
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#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
This should get you to Rank 15 or so easily. It's super cheap and easy to play. As with all Budget Hunter Decks.
Onward into Uldum
the tavern brawl comes out in 6 hours, if they are not here by then, we start rioting.
Highlander Face Hunter
I feel like there are better options than goblin bomb and leper gnome - I'd be sad if i got those late game and they don't pressure early game. I love the deck but I reckon a Jar Dealer for value, a Murmy for stickiness , or a Springpaw because beast/2 rush minions/curve fill would be more effective.
Onward into Uldum
Do you guys remember the the "Welcome to Uldum" quest for logging in when the expansion released? It rewarded us 3 packs from SoU. And we were promised 3 more through 2 quests named "Onward into Uldum". One of those rewarded us 2 packs and the other one - 1. We still haven't gotten them... So the requirements for the quests are "Play the Tavern Brawl" and "Win the Tavern Brawl". So i presume we will get them today when the Tavern is out...? Any opinions?
Fan Creations Tutorial - How to Use HearthCards #1: The Basics
Moves the whole card text up or down, though I don’t see why it helps here and is almost never recommended
building a competitive deck for standard without using any legendaries
Well i guess there are still some decent Budget Decks from RoS out there but if you're looking for New Budget Decks, give this video a try:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkDkMgrkWvI